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So, the plan was to move the SI to Robin's place today. Plus move the Getaway pinball to temp. storage and get the Berzerk and maybe the Video Pinball from the storage into my gameroom.

BUT, I had arranged a small van for this (the same I used for my Nintendo pick-up) but it's from a guy who does courier work, so I never know until the last moment if I can use it, and regretfully it was cancelled yesterday evening. It's not that much a bad thing, the weather sucks to move cabs around (lots of rain).

SO, I've got all day to work on machines !  (Yesterday I already did some small work, re-installed some of the metal parts on the SW cockpit and the Joust and MAN DOES IT LOOK AWESOME !!!! Pics later of course !)

The plan: getting out the Ms.Pac monitor and see if I can replace the tube ! Always wanted to try this ! :D Wish me luck.
If it won't work I'll put the brand new NIB NOS Kortek monitor in it.... ;D

If anyone in the area is bored too, come over and have a beer and a chat and see the fireworks !  ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: May 01, 2010, 10:59:42 AM by Level42 »

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 11:58:02 AM »
Have fun today. I will do a bit of gardening today, it's very nice weather over here to work outside, not too hot, not too cold. Just right.

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 12:01:14 PM »
If i hear a BIG BANG today i call the Firefighter's  ;D
Make picture's of the tube switch  8)

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 04:49:44 PM »
i'm having an arcade day today as well, because the weather is pretty bad and we had to cancel our trip to an amusement park. well, this gives me time to work on some projects: continued painting my pac-man, re-assembled various control panels, filled holes on gauntlet, applied stencils on joust 2, applied sideart von pac-mania and did some preliminary steering wheel tests on death race :twisted:

all in all, it's been a great arcade day so far ...

@andré: if you're bored from your ms (pac-man), why not put those replacement berzerk cables in a box with a german address on top of it? ;)
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 04:55:20 PM »
Sorry dude, im packing for my holiday...

now that is a valid excuse for not being there  ;)

Im off for three weeks tomorow.. (dont know if i have internet access)

see ya !

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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 05:10:44 PM »
enjoy, etienne! may i ask where you're off to?
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 05:12:37 PM »
Sorry dude, im packing for my holiday...

now that is a valid excuse for not being there  ;)

Im off for three weeks tomorow.. (dont know if i have internet access)

see ya !

Have a nice vacation!
i´m off to the shed for some cleaning/gaming/beer drinking.......... naah, beer drinking and gaming it is  8)

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 05:30:42 PM »
enjoy, etienne! may i ask where you're off to?

to the homeland of my wife...

Costa Rica, here i come  8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2010, 05:34:13 PM »
note to myself:

all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2010, 06:59:52 PM »
Sorry dude, im packing for my holiday...

now that is a valid excuse for not being there  ;)

Im off for three weeks tomorow.. (dont know if i have internet access)

see ya !

Have a very nice trip  :-* ... and do not forget to take pictures  ::) :P

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2010, 07:04:35 PM »
Have a very nice trip  :-* ... and do not forget to take pictures  ::) :P

+1

and enjoy your holiday  :spaceace: 8)
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2010, 08:19:24 PM »
Thanx everyone, i will make pictures, but i dont know if they are arcade related  :)

Sorry for derailing this topic....  8)

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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 03:07:03 AM »
 Fuck, it was a great day. Info  and pics later.

[Edit] Never post when you're drunk ! [/Edit]

I've done a miracle to Ms.Pac Man......see pics tomorrow !
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Re: Arcade day today ! (If anyone's bored, come around to help me ;) )
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2010, 11:22:45 AM »
Of course, the day didn't go as planned, but still it was a good day...

Rob (Arcadecollection) called me to ask if he could pick up his GeeBee.  Well of course so we met at Erik's storage. Because I grew to love this cab very much (I think it must be very rare, a Bertolino Namco cab is ALWAYS cool IMHO) I took some pics before I handed it over to Rob.

The cab is in fabulous condition condidering it's age. The sides are almost in perfect shape still. The only bad thing is that there is stuff scratched into the bezel and also some cigarette damage. I hope Rob can get it out with the Micro-Mesh set I suggested to him.

So, how special is this one. Well more special then you may think. First, this game was designed by Toru Iwatani, and then of course all you guys know that he was the man who would (a couple of years later) design Puckman

Now, of course I cannot be sure about this, but I have a feeling that Namco designed Gee Bee after they'd been sued by Atari, after Namco had illegally built Break-Out cabinets.
(see http://www.rotheblog.com/2009/11/arcade/rare-namco-breakout-flyer-hits-arcadeflyers-com/)

The big difference is that Gee Bee actually uses a microprocessor. The PCB already looks a bit like a Pac Man PCB (forgot to take a pic though)...

This game was licensed to Gremlin in the US AND to Bertolino in Europe.

Here's the Japanese cab:


Note the orange CP and the typical (and highly sought-after) Japanese P1 and P2 buttons.

The Bertolino looks actually very much like an Atari Breakout when you compare them. Since Bertolino also built Atari cabs in license maybe they "borrowed" the P1 and P2 start buttons from them....



The Bertolino logo is on the Marquee and on the CP. P1,P2 buttons ans serve button are clearly Atari style. The turning knob is much bigger than the original. Of course the "usual" shiny Euro coin door, but I haven't seen a single-mech one like this before..

The blue in the marquee looks a bit darker. I love it they still have the Japanese characters in there (at least, I think so !):








The blue in the side-art also looks much darker.






The best part was when I got a call from Rob when he'd arrived home. He told me he put the plug in the wall-outlet, turned on the machine and.......it worked !!!!
Pretty unbelievable, some guys have all the luck ;)

He said the picture was still great. Hope he will make some pics of it working soon.

I played the game in Mame and it's definitely a fun alternative to Breakout, but of course it needs a real pot control to enjoy.

Rob, take good care of it !

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2010, 11:43:59 AM »
Rob was also kind enough to lend me a Ms.Pac Plus board (because I mentioned my current board was waiting for eproms to be reprogrammed). This enabled me to test the cab for the monitor work ahead.

The weather had cleared nicely so, let's get to work !

Well I first had to figure out how to remove the monitor. Pretty weird set-up IMHO. Compared to the (earlier) Galaxian set-up I think this cab's monitor mounting is a lot more clumsy to remove, but OK I figured it out.

I do have to say that the way the lower (black) monitor bezel is mounted is really much better than on the Galaxian style cab.

Anyway, when I removed the dark plexi I was in for a shock: I knew that there was some clear burn-in, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad:


Not a single doubt in my mind that this cannot stay like this. My first goal was the try and exchange the tube. I measured the yoke resistance but regretfully the spare tubes I have around (from TV sets) are of a completely different resistance. Replacing ONLY the tube (and transplanting the yoke) is a possibility, but SO much harder.

And then, there was still this around in my gameroom:


Thanks to Rob I got this brand new in box/ NOS Kortek monitor for an excellent price. I have been very stupid not responding earlier because he initially had more of them for sale and we all know how rare and unavailable these are in Europe.

So I unpacked it to see if I could use it in the Ms.Pac cab:


Mmmmm, some minor differences  ;D ;D ;D



MAN it is sweet to see a monitor, completely fresh, not a trace of dust, everything shiny and crisp.....


Of course I had to move the metal parts (the two bars and the metal plates that hold the inner bezel) over to the new monitor.

The metal plates that hold the bezel were very easy: They fit perfectly ! I was very happy with that because the original monitor is specced as a 19" and the Kortek as a 20", but of course the tubes are identical in size.

The support bars were a little less easy. Although the Kortek has some pretty wide holes, the bar's mounting holes (where to bolts go) were still a bit further apart. So with the help of my Dremel, I widened them just enough to fit the bars.

The rachet-set that Spyridon had so kindly sent to me from the US was REALLY handy now !!! All the US sized bolts on the Ms.Pac cab were a breeze to handle now !
I even used the metric parts for loosening the Kortek's bolts to install the bezel holder metal parts.

Anyway, here's the Kortek ready to be put in the cab:




And in she goes !