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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2011, 06:56:19 PM »
I checked Bruno's Defender topic here and I think the monitor and the chassis are original, just they hacked a second rounded neckboard between the original and the tube.
Edit:I double checked it and I'm not sure about the tube, it could be a replacement.
André, this is the best result I can get after adjusting sync:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI_5qi83mYE
And the pics from the tube (not the neon) ;D




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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 24, 2011, 07:01:55 PM »
Quote from: Level42 on February 24, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
O-my-god......I've seen some hacks, but this beats about everything !!!

That you even have the guts to power that up !!!
The problem is 100% a sync problem, but ......holy macerony are you serious you want to keep it running like this ?

I kept a nice distance from the cab during powering it up. ;D
I really don't want to keep it like this, but I guess it's a "bit" much for my skills to repair. :-\
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 24, 2011, 07:16:38 PM »
what monitor is that? i might have a spare chassis which came from a defender cab ...
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all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #78 on: February 24, 2011, 08:43:31 PM »
Quote from: Superully on February 24, 2011, 07:16:38 PM
what monitor is that? i might have a spare chassis which came from a defender cab ...
I will remove it tomorrow and let you know. ;)
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 24, 2011, 08:55:21 PM »
Dont forget to discharge...
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2011, 09:10:17 PM »
Looks like a Wells Gardner WG K4600?
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2011, 09:12:53 PM »
no need to remove it, there should be a lable somewhere ...
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all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2011, 10:20:11 PM »
Quote from: Superully on February 24, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
no need to remove it, there should be a lable somewhere ...
I checked all the visible parts, but there was not any sign of the type or the manufacturer.
I will take a better look tomorrow. ;)
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2011, 07:04:39 AM »
Re: Dodgem vs. The Invaders - I've managed to find pics of both boards and the base CPU board looks identical except for a slightly different EPROM configuration (that's likely a link option). The sound daughter board is different, though. My guess is that Dodgem would run on The Invaders with the wrong sounds...

PCB pics added here:
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/list.htm

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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2011, 08:27:24 AM »
Quote from: PaulSwan on February 25, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
Re: Dodgem vs. The Invaders - I've managed to find pics of both boards and the base CPU board looks identical except for a slightly different EPROM configuration (that's likely a link option). The sound daughter board is different, though. My guess is that Dodgem would run on The Invaders with the wrong sounds...

PCB pics added here:
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/list.htm

Paul.
Thanks for the info Paul. ;)
As you advised, I asked Andy Welburn about this and he told me the same.
I guess I will have to find an original pcb for this beauty. :-\
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2011, 09:29:40 AM »
The number is actually already in this picture:



(Yes I love the zoom feature in OS X).....

K4613 (the 1 is hand-written!)
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2011, 09:34:33 AM »
Quote from: Etienne on February 24, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Dont forget to discharge...

Why ? There is no need to discharge the CRT if you are getting out the monitor COMPLETE by handling it by the FRAME.

The ONLY time you will have to discharge is when you are going to separate the CRT from the chassis. All the other stories are BUZZ...and it's starting to annoy me a bit.

(OK, if, while removing a complete monitor you plan to stick your finger (or any other delicate part of your body) under the anode cup, then yes, it would be better to first discharge).
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2011, 10:33:18 AM »
Quote from: Belike on February 24, 2011, 08:43:31 PM
Quote from: Superully on February 24, 2011, 07:16:38 PM
what monitor is that? i might have a spare chassis which came from a defender cab ...
I will remove it tomorrow and let you know. ;)

He is writing that he will remove IT tomorrow

That was a response on the message that Ully posted, wich is clearly talking about a Chassis, and not the complete monitor, so i assumed he is going to take out the chassis tomorrow, and in that case he will remove the anode cup, so an extra security warning is not too bad if you ask me...

just my 2 cents..
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2011, 10:42:02 AM »
Mmm, ok I assumed he'd take out the whole monitor...good point...
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Re: I've got an interesting phone call:Defender and Zaccaria Dodgem!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2011, 01:27:22 PM »
Nice discussion, lol! ;D ;D ;D
As it is a big hack, I discharged it, just to be sure. ;)
I removed the whole thing and found the tag, you were right André, it's corrected with hand writeing


And the original tag from 1981

Some more pics from the chassis and from the neckboard








After a bit of cleaning I found these, the left on is from Poland ;D
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