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General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: Muerto on January 07, 2012, 08:26:51 PM



Title: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 07, 2012, 08:26:51 PM
(http://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/qubes.jpg)

At the end of last year i got the opportunity to get my hands on a rare arcade...

- so, go now, make a cup of coffee, or tea, you could even grap a soft drink, because
this is going to be a hell of a roadtrip, through the English countryside... cough cough...
well, itīs not the most beautiful country, and winter doesn't make that better... not one bit!
but... lean back, put your legs up and make yourself comfortable.

120 Miles each way... give or take..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/roadtrip.png)

Started at 10:35... - reset tripcounter... CHECK
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq1.jpg)

Thereīs no windmills here, so the best i can do is a crane.... :/
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq2.jpg)

And of course, speed limits..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq3.jpg)

even worse!!!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq4.jpg)

I think this is the most beautiful old building on the trip - and some idiot with a spray can came through..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq5.jpg)

Amazone.co.uk HQ!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq6.jpg)

No pictures from where i picked it up, and no pictures from the trip home..
But finally, got it open - and this is.. yup, you guessed right...(the backdoor with the pcbīs mounted)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq7.jpg)

"close up"
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq8.jpg)

The extra (daughter) pcb
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq9.jpg)

Monitor, hardly used!!!!!!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq10.jpg)

Powerbrick and the famous knocker...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq11.jpg)

Right side...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq12.jpg)

Marquee...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq13.jpg)

Left side...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq14.jpg)

Bezel, newly printed by Archer..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq15.jpg)

CP, notice that Mylestar just put the QQ CP on top of the Q*bert CP! (and they did the same with the sideart!)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq17.jpg)

Dog Tag..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq18.jpg)

The top, with the written serial number... (11008)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq19.jpg)

Trip over!.. 251.8 miles driven (402,88 KM)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq20.jpg)
Onl

And finally - the pičce de résistance:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq16.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing ...
Post by: subzero1970 on January 07, 2012, 08:33:26 PM

quote

Tomorrow is the big day, really looking forward to picking up the game


i hate white font teasers!


Title: Re: ... Teasing ...
Post by: Muerto on January 07, 2012, 08:47:29 PM

quote

Tomorrow is the big day, really looking forward to picking up the game


i hate white font teasers!

Damn you! - youre spoiling it!!!  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 07:17:16 PM
-updated-


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Superully on January 08, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
woho, michael, qubes has finally come home. i'm very happy for you, especially considering the fact that you had to postpone your first pickup appointment for this baby. now "all you need" is a q*bert to go next to it! :D

do you have repro art for the control panel as well?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 08, 2012, 08:29:30 PM
Nice one !

I never see one here, and i never have played it.

will check it out in mame..  ;)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: DarthNuno on January 08, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
Congratulation! An awesome addition to your collection.
But with that *rare* game, you'll have the same problem then your *rare* factory 'Return Of The Jedi/cockpit'  : you'll need the original one too, in that case, simply Q*Bert  ;)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 08:43:57 PM
@Ully
Havent investigated further, but i think i have seen a topic on klov that covers this...

@Bruno
I know, i know! Really Really want a SW cockpit to go beside my ROTJ and a Q*bert to go beide my QQ..
But you never know, someday one of them or both of them might surface...


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 08, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
Congratulation! An awesome addition to your collection.
But with that *rare* game, you'll have the same problem then your *rare* factory 'Return Of The Jedi/e cockpit'  : you'll need the original one too, in that case, simply Q*Bert  ;)
Exactly !

I would have a serious problem to not convert it back to Q*bert if that was mine....on one hand Qubes is even more rare then Q*bert, on the other....its not as epic as the original...tough call !


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: ckong on January 08, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
Nice report, and a great game to add to your collection.

I'm glad that you were able to collect it after all.


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Congratulation! An awesome addition to your collection.
But with that *rare* game, you'll have the same problem then your *rare* factory 'Return Of The Jedi/e cockpit'  : you'll need the original one too, in that case, simply Q*Bert  ;)
Exactly !

I would have a serious problem to not convert it back to Q*bert if that was mine....on one hand Qubes is even more rare then Q*bert, on the other....its not as epic as the original...tough call !

Yeah, but the thing is that i don't have the same remembrence of Q*bert than you have, of course it would be "easy" - just remove the QQ side art and cpo, unhook the daughter board and there you go... But, again, why "destroy" a genuine QQ???


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Alpha1 on January 08, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Leave it as a QQ and put the multigame hack in for all three Q*Bert games until you can find a Q*Bert to put next to it!

Glad you finally picked it up! Glad I could be of help  :spaceace:


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Belike on January 08, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
Nice to see it in your home. ;)
If I were you, I wouldn't convert the arts back to Qbert, it is a real rare and unique cab.
Maybe you should use this kit to solve the problem:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130625107547+&item=130625107547


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 10:35:09 PM
Leave it as a QQ and put the multigame hack in for all three Q*Bert games until you can find a Q*Bert to put next to it!

Glad you finally picked it up! Glad I could be of help  :spaceace:

Hmmm, havent thought about that solution....!
And, a HUGE thanks to you Olly, without you, this would never have landed in my hands!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Q*ris on January 08, 2012, 10:51:35 PM
Happy that you got it, Michael!
Mike Doyle (http://revengeofthenerdsv.blogspot.com/#!/) from (Multi Pac fame), sells a 10 in 1 Multi Q*Bert.
Great guy to deal with.


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 08, 2012, 10:55:23 PM
Yup, I think that would be what I would do....artwork Qubes, multi-kit to also be able to play the original (and more).
That is, I am assuming Qubes runs on the same hardware as Q*bert....


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 11:01:10 PM
Yep, same hardware + the daughter board with the extra graphics.....


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 08, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Yep, same hardware + the daughter board with the extra graphics.....
Cool !
Otherwise you can of course MAME it and send me the board-set  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 08, 2012, 11:05:21 PM
By the way.....where do you see the knocker in this picture ?

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/qq11.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Superully on January 08, 2012, 11:13:26 PM
By the way.....where do you see the knocker in this picture ?

can't you see it, andré? it's right on the isolation transformer :arrow:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6662406887_3efb189dca_b_d.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 08, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
LOL !! First I was "afraid" you'd post another "knocker" :P

But seriously, it's not on that picture. It's mounted to the side of the coin-box area AFAIK.

The black round thing is a fuse holder, you often see those in pinballs too, no wonder with Gottlieb.


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 08, 2012, 11:42:25 PM
LOL !! First I was "afraid" you'd post another "knocker" :P

But seriously, it's not on that picture. It's mounted to the side of the coin-box area AFAIK.

The black round thing is a fuse holder, you often see those in pinballs too, no wonder with Gottlieb.

Shit!!! Youre right, have to look for the knocker tomorrow...


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 09, 2012, 12:23:21 AM
Looks like this:

(http://www.twistywristarcade.com/503-181-large/qbert-knocker-assemby-complete.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 09, 2012, 09:57:45 AM
Inspectet the cab some more, and canīt find the knocker??????? - did QQ come with a knocker??, canīt see why it shouldent, coz itīs just a factory converted Q*bert...

Anyway, found something that scares me a bit... look in the res circle:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/qq-2.jpg)

Whatīs underneath there?, i scraped some of it off and it felt like the same stuff that comes from an old battery...
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/qq-1.jpg)

Oh - this is what the counter sais; no wonder the monitor looked new:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/qq-3.jpg)
(9296 plays!)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 09, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
I have no idea if Cubes used a knocker. That circled part looks like a NOVRAM module and very likely indeed contains a battery. Check the schematics and/or manual to see what it is used for and remove/replace it ASAP.

It could also be sticker residu judging from that plc though...?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 09, 2012, 10:17:45 AM
I think also its sticker residue, since there is no acid on the board..

but better check, it could indeed have a battery inside, and then i agree with andre, replace ASAP!


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 09, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
Wuhoo! just bought this before itīs to late...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i44KJ4EAs9Q/Tu5AAb8DnwI/AAAAAAAAAU8/nBx_QsOp3Lk/s1600/install.kit.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Q*ris on January 09, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cMDRpK73sSk/TkcSS-Naa8I/AAAAAAAAANM/Gol-wV5QbXA/s320/MQtee1.jpg)!!!


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 09, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
........and canīt find the knocker???????

Seriously, I would NEVER have guessed that _you_ couldn't find a knocker.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 10, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
I k
........and canīt find the knocker???????

Seriously, I would NEVER have guessed that _you_ couldn't find a knocker.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know, the new year starts on a very bad note!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Anyhow, just looked at the PCB schematic, and DAMN!!!!!! no way i can take it of without a solder iron...
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/shit.JPG)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: baritonomarchetto on January 10, 2012, 11:52:13 AM
no way i can take it of without a solder iron...

not a bad note but an opportunity ;)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 10, 2012, 12:08:36 PM
Anyhow, just looked at the PCB schematic, and DAMN!!!!!! no way i can take it of without a solderering iron
So ?


Yours in Demark ?


No one is allowed in this hobby witout one ;););)

And dont try this with a tiny 25 watt iron......wont work....


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 10, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
Anyhow, just looked at the PCB schematic, and DAMN!!!!!! no way i can take it of without a solderering iron
So ?
Yours in Demark ?
No one is allowed in this hobby witout one ;););)
And dont try this with a tiny 25 watt iron......wont work....

Yep that's right, no iron here! ;D


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 10, 2012, 01:43:09 PM
Can't wait for that Multi Q*bert card!!!
Did some snooping, and found this!!!! Wow!

Gottlieb Rewls (http://www.ionpool.net/arcade/gottlieb/proto.html)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 10, 2012, 01:48:40 PM
Anyhow, just looked at the PCB schematic, and DAMN!!!!!! no way i can take it of without a solderering iron
So ?
Yours in Demark ?
No one is allowed in this hobby witout one ;););)
And dont try this with a tiny 25 watt iron......wont work....

Yep that's right, no iron here! ;D

Don't you have a "Handy Neighbour" around you somewhere ?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Level42 on January 10, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
At least get rid of the stuff that is leaking out now !!!
Buy some "cleaning vinegar" or I think its called white vinegar and rinse the battery area where the stuff is with it.

Make a video, its fun to see the bubbles !!!! After the bubbles are all gone, the stuff left is chalk. You can scrape it away pretty easily.

Dont get the entire board wet. At least that battery is nicely positioned in the corner. Store the PCB so that the battery is on the BOTTOM, so that if there is any leaking, it will run away from the electronics and not towards it.

Does the PCB actually work by the way ? The label of the closest EPROM seems to have become wet at one point in time.....how about the chips around it ?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 10, 2012, 05:50:30 PM
will do!

Actually i donīt know if it works yet, have to buy a step down converter on RS (230v-110v)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 10, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
I just gave it a try in Mame, an i must say that its very challenging !

but i think i like the original more  :oops:


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on January 19, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Seems like thereīs never been a knocker..:

From KLOV:
"This game runs on Qbert hardware. The only difference appears to be an EPROM upgrade and the disabling of the knocker circuit."


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on March 02, 2012, 05:08:21 PM
Received the converter last week, and finally got to test if my Qubes is working...
Powered it up, and......
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/qq/startup.jpg)

It seems to work, but no matter what i try, the Service switch and the contact that chooses between Play and Test dosenīt work... but when i power up i can briefly see the highscore board before it switches to Test mode......
Any suggestions?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Superully on March 02, 2012, 05:14:09 PM
does it have an onboard battery which needs to be present to run the game?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on April 02, 2012, 11:45:19 AM
Reeived the right coindoor last week, so stripped that.
Now i only need to find someone who can powdercoad it...
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/Photo%2002-04-2012%2010%2037%2056.jpg)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4093732/Photo%2002-04-2012%2010%2038%2040.jpg)


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: DarthNuno on April 06, 2012, 06:52:44 PM
What is the status now? Did you pass that 'Test Mode' screen?


Title: Re: ... Teasing's over - Here comes Q*bertīs Qubes! ...
Post by: Muerto on April 07, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Nothing new here, the game is packed away in storage...