Dragon's Lair Sidam Cabinet project

[spider_man]

Hi people!
This is my project in Cad. for italian cabinet Sidam (is one year that I'm working...)
Rom emulate -> Dragon's Lair ITA (Daphne emulator)
Program -> Open Arcade with interface theme customized for Dragon's Lair background, sound and cabinet marquee

[spider_man]

more photos...

[DarthNuno]

Welcome here, spider_man 

Nice project!
These Sidam cabinets looks great. I thing the only time I played on them was during the DL Euro Fans Meeting 06' in UK.
I see you printed the CPO 'without holes'. Are you happy with the print quality?
I'm also looking for an CPO uncutted for my second Euro DL cabinet project.
Good luck on your project!

Forza! 

[MacDLSA]

SO NICE, SpiderMan !!!
We always missed the Sidam cabinet project, and you GOT IT !!!

I think it's time we "call" Mark (the one who wrote the Euro drivers for Lair & Ace) AGAIN (I did it years ago...) and tell him if he COULD complete the emulation  !

Of course, please post some pics of your "Work-In-Progress" !

[spider_man]

Grazie (thanks) for compliments, boys!
@DarthNuno:
the CPO is a high quality file. Next week I'm going to print both the CPO and all marquees in a professional copy center.
I'll post you more photos soon.
Enclosures: photos depicting the player-selection buttons and I-PAC for configuration arcade joy/buttons with PC 

[italiandoh]

Hey, are you italian? Where are you from, if I may ask?
Would you share the AutoCAD project and hi-quality art files you're using?
Good luck with the project! 

Matteo

[MacDLSA]

This "project" takes me back in time a few year or so...
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=481.msg3534#msg3534
Let me say that an I-Pac/VE is enough (and cheap) for a "simple" laserdiscgames cabinet (and also for a MameCab, too !)

[DarthNuno]

the CPO is a high quality file. Next week I'm going to print both the CPO and all marquees in a professional copy center.

Not sure but does the Sidam cabinet panel has the same size then the Atari/Cinematronic one? In other other, do you have to resize the file before printing?
Does your printer will also apply the thin protective layer on it, like the original have?

[spider_man]

@DarthNuno
The CPO Sidam has different measures than the CPO Cinematronic. The file has been resized and modified.
When printing I will put a protective film  
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@MacDLSA
[ITA] Oddio, il cabinato Sidam è tutt'altro che facile da realizzare visto che ho dovuto faticare non poco per trovare qualche riferimento (leggasi misura) per poter ricavare tutto il dimensionamento del mobile e dei vari componenti che lo vanno a costituire.
Impazzire anche con la parte hardware di lettori laser delicatissimi e cablaggi vari non ne ho proprio voglia e tempo... ecco perchè ho scelto la strada più facile: di inserire un PC con il Daphne e la configurazione dei comandi arcade passerà attraverso l'I-PAC  

[ENG] Oh, the cabinet Sidam is difficult to build because we need to find the exact dimensions.
Go crazy with the hardware I do not really want and time... that's why I chose the easy way out: to insert a PC with Daphne and configuration commands to the I-PAC Arcade

[spider_man]

@italiandoh
[ITA] Si sono italiano, abito in provincia di Milano.
Il progetto è in piena fase di sviluppo. L'obbiettivo è quello di costruire un cabinato Sidam similare a quello originale. Non sarà affatto facile e so già che alcune parti non saranno per nulla identiche, ad esempio la gettoniera che è introvabile ed altri particolari che sono rilevabili solo se si ha l'originale a portata di mano.
Però ho sempre giocato da bambino a Dragon's Lair sul cabinato Sidam. Vederlo girare su un altro cabinato, pur originale che sia, per me non avrebbe senso. Non mi farebbe rivivere le stesse emozioni... 

[ENG] Yes I am Italian, I live in the province of Milan.
The project is being developed. The goal is to build a Sidam cabinet similar to the original.
The project is not easy and I know that some parts are not identical, for example the coin-door not be found and other details are detectable only if you have the original cabinet.
I was a child I always played Dragon's Lair on Sidam cabinet. Watching him play on another cabinet, but it is original, does not make sense to me. Do not give me the same emotions...
 

[DarthNuno]

I was a child I always played Dragon's Lair on Sidam cabinet. Watching him play on another cabinet, but it is original, does not make sense to me. Do not give me the same emotions...

I perfectly understand that! It's the same for me : I used to play Space Ace on an Atari Dragon's Lair converted cabinet. Sure I would like to own the original Space Ace *dedicated* for my collection, but playing on the converted one will always bring me to my youth best gaming moments.

[italiandoh]

The project is not easy and I know that some parts are not identical, for example the coin-door not be found and other details are detectable only if you have the original cabinet.

I know of at least two original Sidam Dragon's Lair cabinets in Lombardia. As far as I know both are still fully working using the original hardware.

Matteo

[spider_man]

@italiandoh
Wow! Maybe one of the cabinet was the one with which I played... 
if I knew the people who have cabinet would be amazing to be able to see some details but it is still impossible to have copies of the coin door... 

[MacDLSA]

@MacDLSA
[ITA] Oddio, il cabinato Sidam è tutt'altro che facile da realizzare visto che ho dovuto faticare non poco per trovare qualche riferimento (leggasi misura) per poter ricavare tutto il dimensionamento del mobile e dei vari componenti che lo vanno a costituire.
Impazzire anche con la parte hardware di lettori laser delicatissimi e cablaggi vari non ne ho proprio voglia e tempo... ecco perchè ho scelto la strada più facile: di inserire un PC con il Daphne e la configurazione dei comandi arcade passerà attraverso l'I-PAC  

Now I got it !
We already talked (also with Igorstellar who owns a Sidam DL) in an italian retrogaming forum...
The cabinet you played on several years ago in the "permanent luna park" it's the same I played, too (and also Teo did)

Then, you're SO right when you say that cabinet is DIFFICULT to reproduce !

Let me link you some interesting details...

Side panels (NOT PAINTED !!!... they're silk-screen printed)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanocsw/5379434888/lightbox/

The marquee, similar to the Cinematronics/Atari CPO (but, as you probably did, it could be done with some "hi-level" photoshop modifies...)
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/italian.laser.games/SIDAM-marque.jpg

Sidam dedicate coindoor, almost impossible to find
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/italian.laser.games/gettoniera.jpg

The CPO may be the easier part to be reproduced
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/italian.laser.games/MY%20SIDAMCp1dl.jpg

Here they comes...
The metal rails used to retain the glass have "Sidam" writings on them, and they're forged.
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/italian.laser.games/SidamCPOaperto.jpg
An the internal artworks ? Where will you find scans for them ?

So, if you say you will do a Sidam-LIKE cabinet, then it's OK.
But a FULLY-reproduced is another thing.

[spider_man]

Hahah great MacDLSA! I did not realize you were also in the forum! And say that you have the same nick! hahah
My city is not far from your city...
I can not see the link you gave me posted "la pagina che cerchi non esiste".
I would like to build a cabinet, "SIMILAR" (as I have already replied to Italiandoh).
It is impossible to recreate perfectly a SIDAM cabinet, but I'm happy!
Here I will post pictures of progress. At the end of work you judge the result ... xx fingers crossed!