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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2011, 10:04:57 AM »
Don't think the smaller one's need it as this would not work on the Atarimax cartridge (anyway, not without hacking the power).

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2011, 10:21:44 AM »
After checking, it does have a connector...
but in this pc, its working without the connector connected..




I will try to find a connector and check if it works then.

The + is connected to the red lead of the molex, so that means +5V.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2011, 10:52:51 AM by Etienne »

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2011, 03:36:32 PM »
Good news..

all of the 7 modules work in the thin client, so i formatted them and put windows 98 dos on it



i have extracted the files from the windows 98 startup disk to a folder "DOS" so there are some tools available for you;
like fdisk, format, edit, himem etc.

the boot time is also very fast  ;D

click pic for a short videoclip

I have not tried yet to power them with 5 Volts and check them in the HP pc's, but will do that soon.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 03:38:55 PM by Etienne »

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2011, 08:36:57 PM »
And the time has come to see what they do with "external" power like Mr Venco suggested.

first i tried to find some connector, but i think we throw them all out, since they work without external power in our application  :-\

So time has come to just solder some wire on the connector and see if it works then.
I have tried to find images of the cable to see where is the + and where is the - connector, it was not in the datasheet that i found on the trancend website..

well i was almost sure from the lousy pics on the internet that the pin on the outside of the module must be the ground, but i dont want to blow the module, so lets open it up and see if we can follow some traces...



Its very small circuit, but the diode indicates exactly the "Plus" side  :P
So i soldered some wire on the terminals and cut up an old molex and used it to tap the 5V line from the powersupply...

now lets test it and see what happens...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywf3gRHx0Nk

Succes ! it works like a charm !

While i was testing,you can hear that my "little helper" kept me company with some nice singing performance  ;D

I have just tested one, but since the others are working also in the thin client without external power, i figured they will also work here with external power.

I just dont wanted to hack up all the modules by soldering on the terminals...

« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 08:39:36 PM by Etienne »

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2011, 08:47:20 PM »
Succes ! it works like a charm !

ha!!! how cool is that?

if i understand this correctly, i can run the HP pcs without a harddisk now, because the module acts like one, right? now all i need to do is find those cables / connectors. ebay perhaps? however, i have no idea what to look for.

thx to etienne for trying so hard and to mcvenco for the import tip!

EDIT: would this work?
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 08:51:05 PM by Superully »
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2011, 09:05:24 PM »
Yes , those are them !
thats basicly what i "soldered"  ;)

and you understand correctly, now you got a pc with a 128 Mb C drive  8)

or better, you got 3  ;)

The other two i can leave the HDD in if you want or is 3 pc's enough for you ?
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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2011, 11:07:53 PM »
The other two i can leave the HDD in if you want or is 3 pc's enough for you ?

i'll take what you are willin to share - it can't hurt to have spares for the future ;) thx etienne!!!
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2011, 05:57:25 PM »
Succes ! it works like a charm !

Nice! I just made a wild guess what the problem could be, but good to hear it worked  :)
No arcade cab(s) yet, but happy owner of 2 Colecovisions, 2 Amigas and a pc running Mame.

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2011, 07:39:11 PM »
Just digged them out of the storage and wanted to prepare them to bring to eurocade...

are you really sure they will fit in your car ?   ;D




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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2011, 09:45:48 PM »
Just digged them out of the storage and wanted to prepare them to bring to eurocade...
are you really sure they will fit in your car ?   ;D

looking great, etienne! they will fit in the car, if not i simply leave the cabinet at andre's place ;D
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2011, 09:56:58 PM »
Great, they are all checked, installed and tested,  so working.

i will drop them at my mothers in a moment next to the Crazy Kong so i can not forget them  ;)

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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2011, 07:28:03 PM »
My 2 cents on this topic:

The biggest task to interface a PC running MAME with a cabinet is the horizontal output  frequency that needs to be forced to 15KHz (sometimes 25KHz i.e. Atari System 2 hardware). There are essentially 2 ways to face the problem (or, at least, these are the ways i can confirm are working)

1) using some linux liveCD/DVD specifically developped for the task (i suggest AdvanceCD 2.6.2)
2) using soft 15KHz (combined with a couple of other little programs).

AdvanceCD is not only an emulator, but a complete OS. It allows "brutal" shut off, it could be set to auto-run a game on startup and the OS is 100% masked (you don't see any desktop or icons on startup). The bad is the impossibility to modify your options after burning the  CD/DVD, cannot save your states (even if installed on a HDD). This OS runs AdvanceMAME 0.92 (IIRC)

Using Soft15KHz is the most common way to convert a cabinet to a MAMEcab. It's also the best choice if you wanna interface some wheel (expecially true for potentiometers) or spinner controlled cabinet: this sort of controls require some setting and trial and error to be set, then a more flexible windows OS is mandatory. This way also gives you much more freedom in the choice of the emulator you wanna run,
it's options and, in general, the flexibility is much higher.

Both ways can only be used with compatible Video cards and, sometines, even cards tested working could not work (there's some dependency on the processor handling... but take this as a dogma :)).

From the hardware side, there are various PCB's dedicated to inputs and video interfacing, the most famous are JammASD and JPac.  JammASD is preferable having an audio amplifier build in  then do not need an audio hack for the sound to be reproduced. These hardware are only Jamma compatible so, if you want to interface your prejamma cabinet you will need some soldering work.

ArcadeVGA is a piece of hardware that can help forcing the horizontal feq. output to 15KHz, but it's expensive and not better than a more cheap video cards forced via soft15KHz or AdvanceCD, so it wouldnt be my choice (it's not).

For what concerns the emulator selection, MAME could be run smootly on older hardware using versions up to 0.106 (since 0.106u3 a heavy video renderer revolution was done). This is why i used this version for my port (RacerMAME)  ;D


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Re: Unholy Mame PC Question
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2011, 08:40:03 PM »
thx for the 2 cents, although i only understand half of it :D
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!