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Author Topic: :: Berzerk "We Are Human After All" - Reboot the robots in 2010 ::  (Read 5324 times)
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« on: October 31, 2010, 08:08:08 AM »


Following this road trip...  arrow



...let's see what we can do with this cab'  Cool

Ops...still in the car  Grin  And no one around to help me for unloading the cab?  oppps . .. no problem... see my 'Klingon' technique to do it alone  Tongue  arrow



Sometime I take too much risk... this cabinet is really heavy... if anything go wrong, I can't face it alone... fingers crossed  Tongue



a little bit scary at this point... beware the the trailer hitch...



OK, safe... (one more time  Cool) :



Why call this topic "We Are Human After All" Huh? Because of this  arrow



It's funny! We try to reproduce the best as possible the condition of the cabinet like it was back in the 80's... trying to set side arts at the perfect location... but I'm not sure things were perfect back in the days... Remember, we talk about 'arcade cabinets', not an a luxury item supposed to be perfect. Most operations during the manufacture were handmade...  and probably the operation for painting this Berzerk logo on that side   Grin
I'm somehow happy to have that little mistake done at the factory, and I'll of course keep it like that.
An interesting thing about this : There's no offset error on the robots graphic, only one the logo. It proves that the 2 robots and the Berzerk logo were not on the same stencil used to paint the side  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 08:20:27 AM »

good luck with the resto, bruno, although i'm pretty sure you are already done with this by now Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 08:34:35 AM »

Yep, that's why I jokingly said to Ully that he should have misplaced his stencils a bit when he did his logo resto Wink

Well, I don't mind either way. Yes I do like that often seen defect on Berzerks, but the mistake differs per unit. Mine are pretty well lined out f.i.

By the way, did you order a new CP from Chris Bruno, I forgot if you did or not. It's totally brilliant !
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2010, 08:42:20 AM »

That is indeed an example of how factories sometimes accept the quality of their work. Perhaps an apprentice worked on your cab. I like it, it is original by all means, it shows that it was done by hand because the factory was probably not robotized back then and it ads a nice little story to the cab.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 08:50:56 AM »

Mmm, dug up some old pictures, regretfully I never made a pic of all the cabs "in line"....but here are two.



The "defect" seems less (the left-right alignment seems almost perfect on the left cab, a bit less on the right one) but is still there, look how the red and blue touch at the left side but not on the right.

What annoys me more is the "missing horn" defect. THAT is really a design mistake... Grin


My guess is that they used a metal mask for the robot art witch they used on both sides (the sides were probably produced in one run, so a lot of left sides first, and then a lot of right sides, at least that's what I saw on old Atari production line pics). Of course that's not possible to so with the logo...
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 06:41:41 PM »

Where to put that game now Huh? Nuno's lair v1 and v2 are already full  oppps No other choice than the house, but first ... a good cleaning... and a *quick* examination of the cabinet...



...which will be fast...no board! Let's see in deep what's left here





The front is not too bad...



Fortunately, this won't be to difficult to fix  Cool :



The control panel suffered  Lips Sealed



OK, before entering the house, I really have to remove the ton of dusts! A job for my air compressor  Cool  arrow





The first 'layer' of dust is gone... it's enough for -at least- entering the house  roll eyes See my Jedi technique for doing it alone  Grin  arrow



On location...  oppps  Grin



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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 12:30:07 PM »

Looking at this picture...



this sight gave me the idea for another practice round in AI  Wink

click on the image to download the AI file..



If you got the dimentions for me, i can adjust that in my file..
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 08:08:39 PM »

Thanks Etienne, but I'm waiting this from Level42  Wink  arrow



By the way, I presume the 'white color background' on these stickers are ... transparent?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 07:07:54 PM »

Back on this one too  Cool

Ok, let's check its identity...2515 ... see, it's engraved everywhere  arrow



Here too...'5' is missing ... the were a little bit inattentive at the Stern factory  Wink Tongue



The control panel is too damaged for me!  The paint is gone, and additional holes!  Ghost  arrow



...fortunately, a run of control panels repro has been done, and ... I was in  Cool

Because that game has to be restored in that room, I quickly have to clean in as best as I can (WAF to be honest  Tongue ). At this level of dust, nothing can beat water + strong soap  Cool  arrow







It looks far better now  pacman  arrow





Now Let's clean the orginal bezel...



Great! Instructions are in French and no other alien language such German or Dutch for instance  Grin Wink  arrow



It shines now  Cheesy  arrow



Ok, without the Sun reflect  Cool  arrow



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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 07:45:14 PM »

Looking Great !
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2011, 10:48:58 PM »

Because I got that Berzerk cab' almost empty (no board at all) and also because it's is an extremely complex board to make work properly (as some of you here know it) I'll get the 'accurate emulation' way for that one.

Let's fine tune the setup of the game on advance mame DOS, on that very old computer. You'll notice my 'trusty' Commodore monitor, working as a perfect arcade monitor (60hz/RGB)  arrow



After checking the setup is perfectly arcade accurate, let's go to my attic and let's pickup a TV to use for that game   Cool



Of course, I'm using SCART connector for the authentic RGB display  arrow



Man, it glows like hell  Kiss  arrow



Next (easy) step... to put all that stuff into the cab'  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 07:10:22 AM »

After checking the setup is perfectly arcade accurate ...

hey bruno, out of curiosity, how can you know it's perfectly arcade accurate if you don't have the original stuff to compare it to? it would be really interesting to compare this to the original setup to see if there are differences! i'm planning a similar route for zookeeper (because the boards are close to impossible to find) - that's why i'm asking!
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 07:32:40 AM »

No problem my friend, in short : considering a game perfectly emulated by mame, considering an output resolution equal to the orginal (1 pixel rendering bythe board, and on this case by mame = 1 pixel on screen), same refresh rate (the most important to assure you the same gameplay overall speed), same screen ratio... and you already sure to be very close to accurate.
In addition if you know the game, you can easily judge by ourself how good it looks & plays  Cool
Sure they are some other details to check to 'fine tune' the thing, but at this point your're already good, and ready to enjoy the game  Kiss
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011, 10:50:40 AM »

What will really be different on Berzerk is the voice. No way that emulation will sound like the real thing.

It is playable though, for sure!

Just for the record: Mark Spaeth currently has his ZZPU board available (which is a replacement board for the main PCB, which is MUCH more reliable AND makes it also possible to play Frenzy !).

You'd need to find all the other boards though, but that's not impossible to do...


Please note that this is NOT meant to be another MAME war.....merely pointing out the fact that stuff is available.

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011, 11:52:31 AM »

I also have the voices.
The tone of the voices may be different of the original because of the emulation (samples in that case)?
Well, I can tell you they are scary as desired, and it perfectly feeds my purpose on this cab'  Wink Hell Yeah  Grin

Just for the record: Mark Spaeth currently has his ZZPU board available (which is a replacement board for the main PCB, which is MUCH more reliable AND makes it also possible to play Frenzy !).

Good to know, thanks for the info  Wink

Please note that this is NOT meant to be another MAME war.....merely pointing out the fact that stuff is available.

No problem André, there is an other topic for those who want 'to fight' on that  Wink
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