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196  General Chat / Technical Area / Re: Operation Thunderbolt guns on: May 19, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
It's been a while since I've owned an Operation Wolf (and as you said, the guns are different) but is there a separate fuse for the gun coils?  If so it's possible that a fuse blew.

Finally found the fuses



Had to force the backdoor because i was missing a key.
Swapped the 2  f 5A fuses of which one was indeed blown and the gun worked again Smiley
....... for a minute and than the fuse blew again.  Sad

What could have caused it to blow again? and why is the other gun not working although it's fuse is good.

When the vibration works it fades after a few rounds of bullet shot. Does someone know what cause this behavour?

Found another problem. The non vibrating gun i could calibrate 100%, but the gun that was working has problems with the calibration. Have to look into that more.
 
197  General Chat / Technical Area / Re: Operation Thunderbolt guns on: May 11, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
Did you check the diode ? Do you get any voltage over the coil ?

Just bought a multimeter so looking on youtube how to use it to messure thing.
Can you tel me how to measure it with a picture? (diode = that small thing on the selenoid where the wires are soldered?)  Machine on or off when measuring?
I'm clueless...


It's been a while since I've owned an Operation Wolf (and as you said, the guns are different) but is there a separate fuse for the gun coils?  If so it's possible that a fuse blew.

Haven't have the faintest clue, hopefully it has, will look into that option, thanks
198  General Chat / All the rest / Re: Hello from Amersfoort, Holland on: May 10, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
@level42  Sorry, my stupidity mode again... won't happen again.
199  General Chat / Technical Area / Re: Operation Thunderbolt guns on: May 10, 2012, 10:49:50 PM
Thanks Muerto, had seen it somewhere on the forum before, but forgot where.
Here are some photo's and a .mp4 video made with my HD2 phone.

The non working gun because of the 3 loose wires, 2 here on top of the solenoid







and 1 here on the trigger switch which is also not in a good condition





And here is a movie with the gun in action before the recoil went dead because of the silicon oil i sprayed on the iron pin that goes in/out of the solenoid (big black thing with the numer on it)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78649287/VIDEO0445.mp4
200  General Chat / All the rest / Re: Hello from Amersfoort, Holland on: May 10, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
Welcome! Nice to have another duchman on board, we're taking over!  Wink

Did you get that Operation Thunderbolt in Hilversum?

Not that i know of, the seller named David brought it to me, lives somewhere around Leiden (zoeterwoude) i think, but he has a gamble business and has placed a few slot machines in Amersfoort.
201  General Chat / All the rest / Re: Hello from Amersfoort, Holland on: May 10, 2012, 01:38:18 AM
thanks guys, i feel welcome here allthough i'm useless for this community for i know nothing.

Eurocade is were i want to go but i can't, working time for me i'm afraid (mostly 15:00 till 22:00) just as the great project at nozomi were they created a meeting place for their community. Only open at times that i must work i presume (did'n red the open time, only know it's open in weekends.

Knowledge enough here i know, i'm so jealous of you guys. Red allot of the roadtrips and restorations, superb read
202  General Chat / Technical Area / Re: What to do when you buy a cab on: May 10, 2012, 01:10:14 AM
simple answer: i put it in storage ... Tongue Embarrassed

That's what i did with the 2 universal cabs i bought, but at some point i could'n resist on trying to test one of them (galaga) because they were my first cabs. Didn't wait till my knowledge was enough to fix them which was my innitial plan. Now i don't dare to fire up the other cab (Rygar) inhouse. Will try it outside when the weather is nice.
203  General Chat / Technical Area / Re: Operation Thunderbolt guns on: May 10, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
@ level42  -  paying is not the problem if it can't be any other way, but time is. I must work when most are free and when i'm free others must work or sleep. Sad

how to include pictures here? must search for it because nowhere are pictures of the innerworks of the guns (at leased i couldn't find it) and i made a few so others can find them here if they search for it.
204  General Chat / Technical Area / What to do when you buy a cab on: May 09, 2012, 02:43:25 PM
Hello everyone,

What do you guys do when you buy a cab

1. clean the cab up
2. put it on to check what is working

or vice versa

I ask this because I bought a cab which have been stalled in a barn for years. Seller doesn't know if it still works so after buying i power it on to see if the monitor or sound or other parts are working. The powersuply worked the screen made some sizling sound for a few minutes then bam! something burst. I quickly unpluged the power, fearing it cought fire (best to test cabs for first time outside in case the cab catch fire and burning your barn/house? or not to worry when something like this happens)
205  General Chat / All the rest / Hello from Amersfoort, Holland on: May 09, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
Hoi everyone, I'm Yungle and come from Amersfoort, a town nearby Utrecht. Just started out with this hobby and I'm a reaaal noob with electronics. But love arcade games from the eighties/nineties (my era, yes I'm from '68), the games nowadays are nice but you can't just play it a few rounds, have to play at least a few houres without being interupted and are more complicated.

Finally got some time and room for a few cabs so I bought some, all with problems but cheap? (< 150 euro)
Always wanted to learn some electronic so I jump in..

Been lurking here and other forums a few months now and decided to register here because there are many dutch people here on this forum and with many questions on my side it's more practical I think then on some american forum, but maybe in the future... (lot's of knowledge there).

The cabs I own are:

Operation Thunderbolt (guns won't vibrate), 2 universal cabs with galaga and rygar (nonworking?), twinline neogeo (screen sometimes rolls up)
206  General Chat / Technical Area / Operation Thunderbolt guns on: May 09, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
Hello everyone, my name is Yungle, live in Amersfoort, the Netherlands and just started this great hobby. Recently came across an Operation Thunderbolt machine which is in fairly good condition except for the guns. Googled this common problem it seems, but not much real sollutions are handed hence this toppic here.

Many wrong? info or at least contradictory info about the guns. It suposed to have lenses or a small pcb inside the guns which I did't have in mine. It's a position gun and not a light/lens gun which is used in Operation Wolf cabs(?) although some on ebay say the guns are the same

One of the guns was working and the other was dead. Being a real noob with electronic I still got it to work because there were only 3 broken cables. Solder them and viola it workt again. Now I just have to calibrate them.

The real problem is the recoil function of the guns. One was working but it falters, so in my stupidity I siliconspray'd the iron shaft wich goes in/out the seranoid when the game was on. Worked great for 1 minute or so then it died. So now both guns don't 'vibrate' no more.

Does someone knows where you can buy this part, preferably in Holland? It's a seranoid C1101225A. Is it a special part only for this game or a common part wich can be bought in every electronic shop? Googled it but found nothing.

Ps. does someone live nearby and can show me howto savely discharge a monitor,seen movies but still have questions, in real with somebody who knows what he's doeing is the best.

Thanks
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