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Arcade Lifestyle / Re: ArcadeForge Bartop Projekt
« on: May 23, 2013, 06:55:59 PM »
Thanks for the PM.  I have replied with suggestion of how we can resolve.

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Arcade Lifestyle / Re: ArcadeForge Bartop Projekt
« on: May 21, 2013, 07:49:07 PM »
Hi,

Apologies for not making an introduction and I regret that my first post on this forum was not a positive one.  I do not make a habit of upsetting people. 

I'm Jon from the UK,  I'm a member of the KADE development team, and a big advocate of community based projects.  I spend a lot of my time building arcade cabinets and working on arcade related projects.  I'm a software developer.

Here's a link to my project site:
https://sites.google.com/site/degenatrons/

and youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/degenatrons

I was shocked to see this thread and believe that I am justified in my public response and my questions about the authenticity. 
This is evident now since bencao74 offered to add a link to the sources he used from Haruman's thread on BYOAC:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,130522.0.html

Please read through the first posts for the attribution requirements.

It was not good that this was claimed as own work on this thread and that led to my prompt and strong response to the counter.

Sorry that we got off on the wrong foot but it looks like we can put the CNC issue to rest soon -if bencao74 can update his first post with attribution as he has suggested he could do  :)

Regarding the SLG3000:
Bootsectors work is based on Sharksym's schematic:
http://pds20.egloos.com/pds/201106/21/40/b0059240_4dffc2812bc3f.png

Sharksym is properly credited on the RetroVGA page at:
http://www.brunofreitas.com/?q=node/36

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Can you reply please?  I'm trying to resolve this.

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Arcade Lifestyle / Re: ArcadeForge Bartop Projekt
« on: May 20, 2013, 01:23:51 PM »
Can you reply?  I'm trying to resolve this.

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Arcade Lifestyle / Re: ArcadeForge Bartop Projekt
« on: May 17, 2013, 02:47:02 PM »
The designed has been reviewed fairly based on the information you provide in the first post.  
The pictures you show in the first post have the same slots as Haruman's CNC version and this is not a coincidence.  Your pictures do not match with your recent design which you have posted.

It seems you have adapted and made improvements to the design.  This could be to everyones benefit.  So all is not lost and you do have chance to redeem yourself.

Now,  since this is derived from an open source creative commons project I would request that you make the drawing files available to the community and make attribution to KADE for the weecade inspired CNC plans + Haruman for his improved/modified design.
I think it is only fair that you quote your sources.  

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Sounds like an interesting project.

Is this inspired by KADE at all?  It certainly seems it when i look at the design and feature set.
KADE sources were recently released as open source to the community (2 weeks before your announcement).  If you plan to use or adapt KADE sources or base your design on what we have done as a community project then it is only fair for you to give attribution.   It takes a long time to develop these projects and we have spent about a year as a project team to get the product to release - it surprises me that you can get something out so quick with the software and the customiser/loader software etc.
If it is then please contribute back to the project and to the community which is driving the development of the project.

Do you plan to make your new software open?

I'm mostly concerned because you seem to have a track record for cashing in on other folks ideas,  getting stuff to market quick,  and claiming that they are your ideas.
Remember the JVSPAC - http://jvspac.kirurg.org/?page=bootleg

and you probably don't realise it,  but this is the 3rd time you've caught my attention. 
Remember Harumans CNC plans for the bartop.  Those plans are derived from an open source CNC project  It's creative commons,  so you can't just rip it off and claim it was all your own work.

ORIGINAL Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0  This is the open source project you copied and claimed was your own work.


bencao74 - This is yours with no attribution at all.


The split back, slots and other features of the CNC are exactly copied,  as if the watermark is still on the design.  Those are innovative community ideas that you just blatantly ripped.
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=4398.0

There is no issue whatsoever in you using our sources - because we made them open.  What you can't do is claim everything as your own work and take credit for it. 
Please contribute to the projects and stop being a d-bag.

I don't think you have any shame in what you are doing and don't expect that you will read this but I hope that others will pay attention. Anyway,  I look forward to hearing more about your projects.

Degenatrons

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