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Title: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on June 26, 2010, 05:24:20 PM
Following this road trip  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/news/burgertime.jpg) (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1168.0)

...it's time to work on this cab'.  8)

Back in time, ten months ago ( ::)) ... the road trip ended like this  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st1.jpg)

...when the cabinet was entering the house (after a brief passage inside the Nuno's Lair)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st2.jpg)

And finally 10 months later, so today (yes, this is a 'real time' topic this time -very rare concerning me), let's examine the cabinet.
For information, that cabinet was untouched, untested and uncleaned until today... Of course, it was untested so far because I knew the game wasn't working when I got it in UK...

OK, let's check the cabinet itself :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st3.jpg)

Very good condition considering its age  :)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st4.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st5.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st6.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st8.jpg)

As you can see, except a good cleaning, there's nothing to do regarding the cabinet itself, except to change the faded and broken T-molding, see  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st7.jpg)

The CPO and the bezel have to be changed. Fortunately, I got with the cab' a perfect CPO & bezel  :)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st9.jpg)

Marquee is great  :-*  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st10.jpg)

Let's now check the identity of this cabinet.

US import of course (No dedicated BG in Europe back in the 80s), and ... 189  :o loooow serial number!  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st11.jpg)

Wait... there is an other number engraved in the wood : 3111

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st12.jpg)

Inside the cabinet, a sticker with the same 3111 value, so I presume this number IS the serial number, but what may be the first number 189 then? Strange...  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st13.jpg)

Let's see inside the cabinet now :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st14.jpg)

Very clean as you can see ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st18.jpg)

The original BT board :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st17.jpg)

Hey, there's an additional (and unattached) 110V transformer here... I presume it was a temporary fix for the initial one. It's directly connected to the monitor, by-passing everything (connected to the 220V on one side, and to the monitor to the other side)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st15.jpg)

The first strange thing here... in Europe, we are all using 220V... why the incoming voltage here on this transformer is set on 240V... Maybe UK is using 240V?  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st19.jpg)

Ok, let's plug the game... as expected the game doesn't work. The monitor doesn't power up (no light on the back of the tube). The marquee light is on, and can hear some buzz sounds (but not the sounds from the game!). Let's try to insert credit and play blind : nothing happens!

I need to know first what happen with the monitor... but ... no luck today... my multimeter seems to be down! Extreme value everywhere I'm checking power  ??? Let's try my multimeter directly inside a 220V socket  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_st20.jpg)

322V ! Impossible! This multimeter is dead?!



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: retromax on June 26, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: DarthNuno

The first strange thing here... in Europe, we are all using 220V... why the incoming voltage here on this transformer is set on 240V... Maybe UK is using 240V?


Yup 240V here in the UK :)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Vnera on June 26, 2010, 06:22:24 PM
to start whit its 230v  in Europa the chanced it. and second your multi isn't dead its measuring the top voltage not the effective voltage. Get the top voltage of a sinus wave do 230*sqaurroot(2)  whits is 325.  Hope this helped!


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on June 26, 2010, 06:31:27 PM
Yeps, but the strange thing is ... previously, I used to read between 220V and 230V when I put the multimeter inside one of my electricity sockets from my house. Why suddenly it would display this huge value? Maybe something wrong in the multimeter setup?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Vnera on June 26, 2010, 06:36:09 PM
Every time that i have killed a multi (i did like 5) It got a blown fuse. I looked it up and indeed it should read the effective voltage instead of the top. But its weird that it reads a voltage that is to close the top voltage instead of noting.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: aganim on June 26, 2010, 09:55:10 PM
Nuno, I think your multimeter batterie is low.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on June 27, 2010, 12:56:43 AM
Guys, 240V in the UK and 220V in Europe is SOOOOOOO long ago......


The UK went down 10Volts, and we went up 10Volts to get 230V everywhere in Europe (yes Europe includes the UK) YEARS ago....

Of course, there is a tolerance on this voltage. 230V is not always EXACTLY 230V, there is a 10% margin.

Anyway, I'd leave it set-up for 240V (unless there is a 230VAC connection) because this way, you will get a bit lower secundary voltage as well, which will ease the stress a bit on any components after that.
If you set it up for 220V and let it work on 230V you are likely still OK, but the output secondary voltages will be higher than when using the 240V set-up. Note that normally this will still be within the margins of the power supply design and should not be a problem but still all my games are set-up for 240VAC, unless they have a 230V connection (which amazingly a lot of them actually do have).



By the way, it is not normal that the meter indicates the top voltage and not the effective voltage.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: EvilDindon on June 27, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
BT RULEEEZZ !

Good luck for your restoration !


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: falcon NL on July 01, 2010, 03:11:27 AM
Look great for her age! For some reason, i really like the cabinet of BT...but i never have played it... :shock:

And the post of André soms it all up i guess.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 03, 2010, 11:19:17 AM
Nuno, I think your multimeter batterie is low.

You're right, here's the result after a battery change  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft1.jpg)

Now let's built a custom video adapter Burger Time > SCART (...and try for the first time my new soldering station ) :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft2.jpg)

Because the game is not working, nothing on screen of course...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft3.jpg)

You may think "why trying with a new monitor at this point?" ... well, I was hope some kind of graphic garbages, or test mode in order to help me to fix...  :oops:
But here I am : nothing on screen... even no trace of a signal (maybe I've done a mistake on my adapter?).
Anyway, let's try to work in the right order.

OK, what we have here... Main power supply  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft4.jpg)

What are these two wires cut ?

Regarding this board  :arrow:

I presume it's a secondary power supply to provide exotic voltage right? I would say it's also the sound board (there's an amp on it)?  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft5.jpg)

Two wires don't go to the connector... something wrong?!  :-X

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft6.jpg)

On the opposite side of this board  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft7.jpg)

...the remain of a fix/hack/repair or something? See the black wire cut  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_ft8.jpg)

Mhhhh... where to start?  :-\



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Muerto on July 03, 2010, 11:31:24 AM
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/sig/mame.png) it!......
Muhuhahahaha, just kidding  ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: liquidx on July 03, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
That's some weird hack, the yellow wire is jumpering two 15v lines while the 2 cut wires seem to be 15v and its return.
The wires hacked onto the back both go to ground, so it doesn't make much sense unless I'm reading it wrong.

Yeah, I was working on some Midway power supplies this week :)

Also about to order from Bob Roberts if you want to share shipping on a rebuild kit.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 03, 2010, 01:22:04 PM
Also about to order from Bob Roberts if you want to share shipping on a rebuild kit.

can i also jump onboard?  :-*


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 03, 2010, 01:23:26 PM
I am the pride owner of a working BT board.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 03, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
I am the pride owner of a working BT board.

now all you need is the cabinet to go around it  :P


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 03, 2010, 01:35:09 PM
Yes "ONLY" the cabinet.... :)


So.....what to do, sell it or keep it ??



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 03, 2010, 01:37:02 PM
So.....what to do, sell it or keep it ??

it depends: i know that BT is one of the games you are REALLY LONGING FOR, but would you be able to squeeze it into your gameroom or are you out of space?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 03, 2010, 01:41:04 PM
So.....what to do, sell it or keep it ??

it depends: i know that BT is one of the games you are REALLY LONGING FOR, but would you be able to squeeze it into your gameroom or are you out of space?
Out of space, but I'd probably kick out my MAME machine in the blink of an eye if I could get a BT....or a Q*bert.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 03, 2010, 01:54:40 PM
or finally kick out that pinball of yours :twisted: (not talking about the VIDEO pinball by the way)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 03, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Yeah if it weren't for my wife and son.....well Robin offered to help me work on it, but at this moment the temperatures are not like doing much work at all.....


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 03, 2010, 03:04:37 PM
That's some weird hack, the yellow wire is jumpering two 15v lines while the 2 cut wires seem to be 15v and its return.
The wires hacked onto the back both go to ground, so it doesn't make much sense unless I'm reading it wrong.
Yeah, I was working on some Midway power supplies this week :)
Also about to order from Bob Roberts if you want to share shipping on a rebuild kit.


Thanks liquidx, I'll start with a rebuild kit for that board. Let me find what to order first (the good references), and we can make a 'bulk' order  :-*



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: liquidx on July 03, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
That's some weird hack, the yellow wire is jumpering two 15v lines while the 2 cut wires seem to be 15v and its return.
The wires hacked onto the back both go to ground, so it doesn't make much sense unless I'm reading it wrong.
Yeah, I was working on some Midway power supplies this week :)
Also about to order from Bob Roberts if you want to share shipping on a rebuild kit.


Thanks liquidx, I'll start with a rebuild kit for that board. Let me find what to order first (the good references), and we can make a 'bulk' order  :-*




Okido. And Ully feel free to join in as well.


Colin


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 03, 2010, 09:31:02 PM
Yes "ONLY" the cabinet.... :)


So.....what to do, sell it or keep it ??



I sence a scratch build in the near future......  ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 04, 2010, 12:21:28 AM
OK Liquidx,

Here's what I need  :arrow: Midway 90421 Power Supply Rebuild Kit :

(http://www.therealbobroberts.net/90421b.jpg)

But why he doesn't include the two big blues Cap in the kit?



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: liquidx on July 04, 2010, 12:47:19 AM

Okido, I'll add that to my list. I'll put the order in this week, it takes a little longer due to the no-paypal thing but as he cross-ships it's not too bad.

I guess he considers those 2 caps not important enough to have any major effect on the output even if they go bad, or they're indestructible :)
They're both filters on the inputs.



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 04, 2010, 08:17:48 AM
i'm putting my order together right now, still waiting for some crucial answers on what to get exactly, but you should have my wish list soon. thx a lot for letting me jump onboard.

btw, how are you handling orders with BR payment-wise since he doesn't accept paypal or credit cards?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: liquidx on July 04, 2010, 09:46:26 AM
i'm putting my order together right now, still waiting for some crucial answers on what to get exactly, but you should have my wish list soon. thx a lot for letting me jump onboard.

btw, how are you handling orders with BR payment-wise since he doesn't accept paypal or credit cards?

I use auctionchex, you pay them via IBAN transfer and they send him a cheque from a US bank. They take a commission but it's $2 or so.
Also their European account is Belgium-based so when I transfer to them, they get it the next day.


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 04, 2010, 11:30:44 PM
Regarding the Burger Time pinout (schema from MikesArcade.com (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=Burgertime.html))  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/btpinout.jpg)

On the small connector, what would be the 'D' signal named 'TV Sync' (comp) ... 'comp' for composite? ...like the common 'yellow video composite cinch'? No, It cannot be that?
Because the game doesn't work, I cannot verify that specific video signal by myself. So, in my custom BT to SCART adapter, I've used the (6) V Sync + (7) H Sync  attached together to the sync pin of the scart connector.
Note on the schema says the sync signal may be different.
I think I'll have to wait the game to be fixed before to verify what is the video signal used for my board...


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 05, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
That D Sync (comp) means Composite SYNC, not Composite VIDEO (which you mean with the yellow video composite connector.

Composite Sync means H and V sync mixed together.
Composite Video means H and V sync plus Red, Green and Blue all mixed together (and hence the shitty quality of the picture).


So, I would wire the D pin to pin 20 of the Scart connector (= comp sync).


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 05, 2010, 04:56:10 PM
Let's continue to investigate... as I said previously, let's take care about the board first before starting to work on the display. Let's assume my adapter is working (I've build many like this in the past), but without a working game, impossible to verify so far. In addition, it's a new TV model I'm using and I don't know how this one reacts with a such signal... I've seen so many different situation  :P

OK, the basic check. Let's plug the game. On this pin, I'm supposed to have 12V ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_1.jpg)

...looks good.

Now, on this one I should have +5V ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_2.jpg)

2,06 ?! Not good! Every pin I'm supposed to have +5V, I have only +2V  :-X

The "Medium Power Supply" board should provide correctly the +5V everywhere, but not anymore now... I do not have a rebuild kit here, so let's help it to provide the +5V with an other power supply. Fortunately, I always have one, ready for such operation  ;)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_3.jpg)

Ok, so far I only need two wires : one for 5V and one for the ground, see  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_4.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_5.jpg)

The red one provides the +5V. Because I do not want the cut the wires at this place, I simply hang the wire, it will be fine for just a test :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_6.jpg)

The yellow one is the ground :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_7.jpg)

Power on... something on the screen  ::) :P

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_8.jpg)

After few seconds... I recognize the game... and I recognize that 'one color' display... I know for sure that my *VIDEO* custom adapter Burger Time > Scart is working... I just need to add the RGB switching signal  :-* :-* :-* Let's add it ( +5V on Scart pin 16) ... and ...



...



...



... THIS IS IT  ::) :P  :arrow:




 
(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_9.jpg)

Well... almost, just a small mistake between the thee colors wires (RGB)... Let check that....




... and ...





... and ...





THIS IS IT NOW  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_debug_10.jpg)

 :-* :-* :-* :-*

OK, I know the only problem (so far, let's be prudent  ::)) is ...the "Midway Medium Power Supply". Once I'll have the rebuild kit, this issue will be fixed and I won't need that *temporary* external power supply  ;)

Hey, because I was very happy to see the board ALIVE, I've done a real time video ... enjoy ;D  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/bttube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjFcmOs2938)

 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 05, 2010, 05:42:37 PM
So uhm aren't you now feeding +7V into the board ? (2V of the original power supply + 5V of the extra one ?)
Or did you re-adjust the extra one  ?

Good to see the board is working fine !!!!!  :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 05, 2010, 06:01:11 PM
So uhm aren't you now feeding +7V into the board ? (2V of the original power supply + 5V of the extra one ?)
Or did you re-adjust the extra one  ?

Nope, I now feed 5,28V on every pin supposed to have 5V  ;) I didn't have to adjust the new one   8)

PS : I'm up to buy you your BT board by the way  ;) ... just in case  ::)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 05, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
nice job, bruno! you're always great in improvising and know your way around pretty well! good luck iwth the rest of the resto ;D


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 05, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
Thanks  :)... This board was my worst 'fear', now the rest of the restoration should be easy.As you see on the picture, the cabinet is in good condition, no wood repair needed. But I won't scream 'victory' too fast  ::)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 07, 2010, 06:54:36 PM
Let's check the T-Molding now  8)

On many Burger Time pictures I've seen, I recall an... ORANGE T-molding... but on the other way, the original arcade flyer shows... red T-molding. Well, I know the flyer isn't always the true (best example, the Galaxian flyer shows black T-molding, but most of the production cab' got a green one...). So?
I LOVE that orange color  :P ...and that orange color is so the same than the orange of the cabinet, see my cab  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger-tmold1.jpg)

The explanation about the orange should be a matter of red... who became orange with the time (and or sun?)... but the strange thing here is : why that orange T-molding looks so perfect? I mean if the color would have to fade, why the orange color is so homogeneous all along the T-Molding?

Let's investigate further would you? ...

... well  :roll: No more investigation I would say... see this picture  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger-tmold2.jpg)

It's red on the other side of the T-molding... problem solved! Let's order RED T-molding (even If I prefer ORANGE color that match so perfectly the overall cabinet color  :'().


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 07, 2010, 07:05:28 PM
I usually prefer a contrasting color for the T-molding so I like this :)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: WunderCade on July 09, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
Maybe it's just the picture, but that t-molding looks orange on the underside to me, not red. Is it the camera flash making it look orange?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Muerto on July 09, 2010, 08:38:15 PM
The T-mold on the BT on klov looks red....
(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/112/1128784672.jpg)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 09, 2010, 10:14:26 PM
to me the t-molding on both pics is orange!


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Muerto on July 09, 2010, 10:20:55 PM
on 2nd view..
+1
itīs orange..


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: scr33n on July 10, 2010, 10:32:28 AM
+10

Orange!!!

Anthony of Quarterarcade writes:

http://www.quarterarcade.com/Game.aspx/2160

I used orange T-molding and I love it  :-*

 :arrow:

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2592/cabok9.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/cabok9.jpg/)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on July 30, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
OK, let's remove the 'faded' bezel and access the current *non working* monitor...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip1.jpg)

Mhhhh, this is not the original BT monitor here...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip2.jpg)

...that explain while the power connector (110) has been modified to fit this one. Let's flip the next picture and see what this monitor was used for before ::)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip3.jpg)

 :arrow: DEVIL ZONE ... and ... Mr DO!?

Anyway, I'll no longer use this one, because :

1. It is dead now!
2. It has been used for many other games, it's time is done  ::)
3. Non 'Burger Time' screen burn! (I love screen burn, but it has to be for the correct game  ;D)

Let's use a second hand TV, with my custom adapter Video BT RGB to SCART connector. For my archive, I've used this TV model  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip7.jpg)

Well, the monitor frame inside the Burger Time is made for a 19" monitor, but the TV tube is a little bit bigger, so a little adaptation is required (I've increase the size of an hole) :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip4.jpg)

Done! Ready for a test  :P  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip5.jpg)

A magical moment... the first play  :-* :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip6.jpg)

Great! I'm in love  :-* The only minor thing with this TV model is a slight convergence default, see  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip8.jpg)

...but I wouldn't mention that as a default... I love when a picture is not 100% perfect, it looks more 'Arcade Realist'  ;D
PS : by the way, I'm still in love with all RGB display  :-* :-* :-*

It's time to replace the bezel with a NOS one  :)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip9.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burgertime-wip10.jpg)

Next steps :

- Capkit "Midway Medium Power Supply"
- New T-molding
- maybe replace the used CPO... even if it's damaged, I love the idea of hundred(thousand?) hands who touched this... and it's still the same  :P
- Wash the cabinet... yes... believe me or not, but I didn't clean the cabinet itself so far  :roll: :oops:  :P
- Move the cabinet into the Nuno's Lair vx
- PLay... Score... and make a nice video of course  ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Superully on July 31, 2010, 08:56:51 AM
well done, bruno! you seem to make those scart-rgb-adapters look like a walk in the park. one day i'll have to ask you for more information about them ...


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: scr33n on July 31, 2010, 09:47:05 AM
Nice job Bruno  :spaceace: :spaceace:

- Move the cabinet into the Nuno's Lair vx

 ::) :P  ;D  :-* :spaceace:


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on July 31, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
Sigh.........I am so happy that I too have a working Burger Time













PCB......  :?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Ronald Reagan on July 31, 2010, 12:40:28 PM
beautiful! BurgerTime rules
Yesterday I was at the Gyruss lair with some hamburgers, but he didnt even take a bite.

I love the picture with the Mr Do and Devil Zone screenburn. Fascinating


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on January 21, 2012, 11:31:10 AM
...and more than 1 year and half... back on this!  :P

Ok, I would like to give this cabinet an 'identity'. Remember, on that cabinet, two serial numbers carved on the back  :shock:  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_1.jpg)

189 on the left  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_2.jpg)

3111 on the right  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_3.jpg)

The real SN is the second one  :arrow: 3111

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_4.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_5.jpg)

Etienne, are you listening  ::) ;D ;)

But I don't really understand why the real SN 3111 was deliberately erased (more tried to be erased) on its back?
Maybe an operator wanted to hide this game for an inventory, in order to skip taxes? I don't think so because the font used to print the 'false' serial number 189 is exactly the same than the real one. It has been also carved in the same manner... so it cannot be an operator modification.
Or was it a factory mistake?  If so, why to erase the correct SN, and print 189, which means nothing?
What could be the explanation to that?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 21, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
I am always listening  :D



Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on January 21, 2012, 05:05:07 PM
I am always listening  :D

I knew it  ;D I wanted to be sure that one to be added on the SN labels queue  ;)

To finish on that 'serial numbe'r story, found a last number inside the cabinet ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_Serial_6.jpg)

...this time, It's just an inventory number... so does 'Statewide Coin-Operated Amusment Inc' is an arcade company name or something?


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on January 21, 2012, 05:29:41 PM
I was tired to see the roll of *brand new* t-molding waiting on the top of that cabinet since more than 18 months!

Go back to work dude! The tools of the day  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_tmolding1.jpg)

Nothing special... I've done this a dozen of time  8) ... except I had some troubles to remove the current tmolding. I was really dry, and so... so hard! When I pulled it off the trench, it broke every 5 or 10 cm. That operation was the most time consuming  :ghost:
Also had to remove 'carefully' theses nails  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_tmolding2.jpg)

...and special 'treatment' in the curves  8)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_tmolding3.jpg)

I always start/end up in that way  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_tmolding4.jpg)

No more 'day light' in my living room. I prefer to stop here and do the other side an other day...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger_time_tmolding5.jpg)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 21, 2012, 08:42:43 PM

I know what you mean, just what is on there normally ?
and now i dont have space in the sheets anymore, but next run i can take it
Tuesday it goes to the printer, so its a bit late also for this  ;D

edit by DarthNuno :No problem for the next batch. I'll ask to an other BT owner to see what is the serial number sticker used on that one... Atarimania please?   ;)


edit2 by DarthNuno : opps, I've edited your post instead to reply to it, sorry Etienne  ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on February 17, 2012, 05:08:45 PM
edit by DarthNuno :No problem for the next batch. I'll ask to an other BT owner to see what is the serial number sticker used on that one... Atarimania please?   ;)

Quick reminder Atarimania  ::)

OK, let's finish the other side. Ops, I did not remember that cabinet has no leg leveler...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_TMolding_6.jpg)

...but only a stupid & dangerous piece of wood instead  :?...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_TMolding_7.jpg)

Yes, dangerous for my carpet  :ghost:  Let's put brand new leg levelers  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_TMolding_8.jpg)

Now, this Buger Time looks really cool  :-* ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_1.jpg)

...but it'll even better in the Nuno's Lair  :P

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_2.jpg)

See how she's beautiful in the day light  :-*  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_3.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_4.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_5.jpg)

As usual now inside my game room, if one go 'in'... one go 'out' ::) :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_6.jpg)

...well not really out, that lovely MACH3 is now inside my workshop living room!  ::)

Almost in and...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_7.jpg)

...this is it!  :-*  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_8.jpg)

Chef Peter Pepper is not alone anymore  8)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_10.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_11.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_12.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/Burger_Time_13.jpg)

 :spaceace:


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Level42 on February 17, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
Aaaaaaaaahhh...... Burger Time..........beautiful, wonderful, brilliant Burger Time.......LOOOOOOVEEEE that cab, LOOOOOOOOVVEEEE that game :):):)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Muerto on February 17, 2012, 05:19:04 PM
looking good Bruno! - the art on the kick plate looks a little faded??...


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on February 17, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
looking good Bruno! - the art on the kick plate looks a little faded??...

Yes, but very very slightly, so it does not deserve a fresh one  ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Muerto on February 17, 2012, 05:43:39 PM
looking good Bruno! - the art on the kick plate looks a little faded??...

Yes, but very very slightly, so it does not deserve a fresh one  ;)

Ok, itīs fine to have wear and tear on the games!!! ;) :D


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: gyruss on February 17, 2012, 07:44:31 PM
Love the way wacko is making your game room pic's look weird!


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on February 19, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
Thx  ;)

And now a short video of that cabinet, now playable inside the Nuno's Lair ... 8) :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/burgertime/burger-tube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunMCIpeDK8)

...or maybe should I call that video 'Handheld vs full size?'  ::) ;D

 :spaceace:


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Blanka on February 19, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
Great one! Anything in the mailbox BTW?

I have this one: the in-between (I have the tandy too).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4D9JLFA9RU


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: Belike on February 19, 2012, 05:00:09 PM
Both looks very nice, I love the art on the handheld. ;)


Title: Re: It's Burger Time! ...still hungry after 28 years... :: The Restoration ::
Post by: DarthNuno on February 19, 2012, 06:11:50 PM
Great one! Anything in the mailbox BTW?

Nothing so far.

Yes, Burger Time conversion works quite well on handhelds  :)