Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: kralleman on November 04, 2016, 12:27:08 AM
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Hi!
I recently acquired a Breakout consolette style cabinet and I would like to know more about it. The monitor chassis and neck pcb says "Atari Europe" and the serial sticker on the back of the cabinet says Atari Theatre. Mine does not say "Consolette" like the ones I have seen pictured here on the forums. Were these common throughout Europe? Where were they built? France?
EDIT: I guess this one looks more like mine: http://www.flyerfever.com/post/98616925348/breakout
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I have seen this at the first Eurocade, i think its Luigi's or Captain Kirk's
Here pics from Eurocade where my son is having a go at it ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/eurocade/saturday/39.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/eurocade/saturday/40.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/eurocade/saturday/50.jpg)
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Har to see but that one has a extra knob? Is it for Super Breakout maybe?
Awesome cabinet anyways, I was there in the warehouse when we found krallemans... he was quick to call dibs :evil: :lol:
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Yes, hard to see but mine's a little bit different. Mine does not say Consolette on the front for instance.
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The monitor of my cabinet is not working. A fuse and a couple of resistors are badly burnt. Still, it seems as if the cabinet has never been put out to operate on location. Except for the burnt parts, everything is shining as new and the coin counter is on 00089(!). Also, the serial number of the cabinet is 62.
I found the below post where someone repaired a consolette-monitor, but my french is too rusty to figure out the details. Will see what google translate has to say about it when I have time to sit down with my cabinet. http://forum.system-cfg.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5594
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Fantastic!!! Is that the one from ebay?
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I bought this from an old operator so it's unlikely that it is the same machine as the one from ebay.
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Wow this is awesome.
I have a super breakout upright but wish I had one of these 8-)
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Wow this is awesome.
I have a super breakout upright but wish I had one of these 8-)
Im in the same boat as you, a SB upright and no consolette.
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Some components on the chassis looked like they were missing, and some resistors were badly burnt making it difficult to identify them. But spectroman here on the forums was kind enough to provide me with some schematics for the chassis so I have now been able to replace those. Also, I recapped one of the chassis-pcbs (there are two) and now she fires up! At least one of the pulled caps was shorted.
The picture still needs adjustment, but I will wait with that until I have recapped the other board. So, thanks a lot spectroman!
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Ask spectroman for more info. He has one
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Love these little bastards ;);)
What monitor is in there ?
So probably thie monitor burnt out very quickly and it wasn't repaired but put aside.....amazing....
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I don't fully understand what the previous owner attempted. There were some badly burnt resistors and close to them a transistor that was only soldered on one leg. The other two legs were loose. Not like a cold solder joint just entirely unsoldered. A human fault. Either someone started a repair but never finished or someone completely forgot to solder those legs back and turned it on, ultimately firing those resistors and the fuse.
The only marking on the chassis is "Atari Europe". I also saw the text "synoptique moniteur 3175 00" on one of the schematics I believe. I'm not sure if synoptique is a brand.
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synoptique mean a functional schematic in french.
The 13" moniteur is an "hacked version" of the 19"
The flyback is powered by a 12V (instead of 24V on the 19"), but the chassis only produce 24V. So they add a zener, a balast transistor and a Resistor soldered on the wire (not on pcb) to produce 12V.
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20161229152158-spectroman-platine.JPG) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20161229152158-spectroman-platine.JPG)
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Love these little bastards ;);)
What monitor is in there ?
So probably thie monitor burnt out very quickly and it wasn't repaired but put aside.....amazing....
there're unamed, here is the schematic :
http://database.gamoover.net/20161111170125-Atari-Europe-B-W-13-consolette-.pdf
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Spectroman I may have some old flyback . Doesn't your consolette have it burned?
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So were any other games releases for these of other than breakout/Super Breakout?
They look awesome!
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Yes I need the flyback transformer, the same on the picture.
Do you known the reference of your transformer?
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synoptique mean a functional schematic in french.
Lol ok :)
The 13" moniteur is an "hacked version" of the 19"
The flyback is powered by a 12V (instead of 24V on the 19"), but the chassis only produce 24V. So they add a zener, a balast transistor and a Resistor soldered on the wire (not on pcb) to produce 12V.
Ah. I'll make sure to double check that.
So were any other games releases for these of other than breakout/Super Breakout?
They look awesome!
The attached flyer suggests that Space Attack could have been available too.
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Chassis has been recapped now (both PCBs). I put in caps with identical capacitances as the old ones. The picture is stable and almost good but I'm not satisfied yet. If you look at the picture the top and left walls of the playfield are not straight. It is not like a wave going over the monitor, it's more like the walls are bent. Kind of difficult to take a good photo. Any hints on what I should look for on the chassis? I tried with a different Breakout PCB and get the same result...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/f9-W9g9kEaUI5YZ9dnwehpt6GB0VkWkLx56aIKlFM4ALIQFHMD4VhwTwHGYd7yTmnbCbgrwt4dRqzoHygkwbkY6kADaOupq7jK44daICF6Uidkq4V6GS0VLHcxpCQsDxj_9KmN4=w470-h834-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TGJyMxkST6xACpoGVVuPUtSIiMwq8A_PgqOvnMaLLKut9V1UDpoMqKHcccCr-IA5ii2hhI1Er9J5wlFGf4KE1rwrAXaCPRuEkekLX1omRqtBo7IztaRt-QaIwTmLGZgyfwCAIb8=w470-h834-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OkHmJk6OyephdwKouaDiL4RmnckfVj4ZdQmHWpeb2Dcq_Si4-VBHeXXx3E15ud7JsUHG0mtO7D4WS1WAoEZVvZ-fbwqYrHltEEyjOM_1Tf13kMYbijCeewKC0j2opQGL79Yx1IY=w470-h834-no)
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I think you may have to look at pots for the adjustment, or maybe even the convergence rings on the neck
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I tried the rings on the yoke but that didn't really have any effect on the bent lines :( I also played a bit with the pots without results. What I haven't tried is messing with the different adjustable coils. I believe horizontal linearity is one of them I havent tried but it is quite difficult to reach.
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what about the yoke itself ? and maybe add some magnetic strips:
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=833.0
EDIT:
Andre, your video is missing, is your accound suspended ?
cant find your starwars oscilloscope video neighther... :'(
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Nice work.
I think that your picture is too large in both direction.
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Etienne: I have not tried to fiddle with the yoke except for the positioning rings (I guess they're not called convergence rings on a B&W?). I will see if I can spend some time with it this weekend.
Spectroman: Thanks! Yeah the picture is probably a bit too expanded. I have been able to tune that though but the bent walls remain... Hmm..