The Eagle has landed ! (aka the Lunar Lander project)

[ckong]

Great André, I´m very happy that the transplantation succeeded.

I noticed that some pictures are very pixulated. How come? Ipad cam?

[level42]

A little video. Note all pics and video were done with my iPad this time....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTbK_t5qgg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[level42]

Im not sure.....maybe its because I have been running the LL outside mostly but it seems to flicker more then Asteroids which I find a bit weird since Asteroids seems to have more vectors ? Or maybe the relatively large amount of text on top of the screen is spoiling it ? I know from SW that when the amount of text gets "too much" the screen starts to flicker. I asked Jed Marglin about that and he explained it is perfectly normal and that it was a choice they had to make. The texts are lots and lots of really small vectors which take relatively much time to draw.

However of course it doesn't flicker as badly as on that video ......

[level42]

Great André, I´m very happy that the transplantation succeeded.

I noticed that some pictures are very pixulated. How come? Ipad cam?

Yeah, the number of stuff that requires AA sized batteries in my home has risen so much that they seem to constantly get stolen from my proper camera....buying a new set tomorrow...

By the way, this is also good news for you, at least it made me a bit more confident to swap the tube on your SW, however convergence is still something else on a color tube.....

[Etienne MacGyver]

Yup.......found the gun but where are the sticks when you need them......

Nice in a box next to the glue gun like i do ?  

[level42]

O come'on......way too easy and logical !


You know I am a chaotic person (sometimes...)

[Muerto]

That is great work!
Let me get this strait - you turned a Raster into a Vector??!!

[level42]

nooooooooohhhhhhh....

I simpy removed a picture tube from a TV and put that in a vector monitor.

One of the biggest misconceptions about vector monitors is that they have "special" tubes.

They don't.

Every Cathode Ray Tube is (was?) created equally.
Yes, some have higher resolutions than others.
Some have different angles but they are all the same in construction.

It's the electronics AROUND the tube that make a monitor a vector or a raster.

Sooooooo, you can transplant a tube from a TV (raster) into a vector monitor without any problem.
This is especially true for black and white tubes because they all have the same pin out ( as long as its tubes from TVs and not from oscilloscopes etc.)

However the tube in a WG6100 color monitor can also be exchanged for one from a TV as long as it has the same neck pin out and angle.

It's not as easy as with a black and white though because you may have to do the convergence.

Amplifone monitors used medium resolution tunes, but these too can sometimes be found in TVs and you can also exchange them with a med-res tube from a med-res monitor as used in games like Paperboy, HD cockpit,720 etc.

[Robinholland]

Cool your first tube swap 

[Q*ris]

Amazing. 
I recently located a Chicago Coin cab completely trashed and was hesitating to pick it up because of my overcrowded gameroom, but now that I know that a tube swap could be done (maybe for my beloved Asteroids), I'm gonna go for it, for sure
It's a real TV put on a shelf in there.

[level42]

Just powered  the machine again and the picture looks great in the dark !!!

[level42]

OK some better pics my friends......it looks SAAAAWEEEET


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The picture is sharp, but I have to turn the pot completely to one side...I wonder if it would be even better if I could turn it a bit "further". Maybe some other voltages are not perfect on this monitor...Note that this picture shows the center letters too "fat". The one's on the top right better represent how they really look...

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I also must replace the pots on the game PCB, it shows some horizontal size jumping now and then, typical pot issue.


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It is infinitely better than this pic, I just can't get the camera focussed properly.....and forgot to switch to manual...


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And now a new restoration step for me: restoring a monitor frame ! So far, I have been usually satisfied with how my monitor frames looked. They needn't be perfect but this one just had to be done. There was way too much rust, and apart from looking like shit, it could maybe go further and ruin the frame.....can't let that happen....

So....after having done some spraying with Motip cans (and some even worse brands), I finally decided that I will NEVER use anything else anymore but Rust-oleum Hard Hat:

http://www.rust-oleum.nl/cms/publish/content/showpage.asp?pageid=468&templateid=83

I've used the black matt color before. To my joy, they recently added a satin black too (they only had matt or high-gloss). However for this job I bought their Hard Hat Anti-Rust Primer, which I figured was needed for this job:



And of course I had to keep a metallic look, so I bought the stainless steel color. Maybe not the best fitting for this frame, but i think it was a nice compromise in look and color so I can also use it on Atari Power Bricks..... because I am now tempted to redo these too.....aaaaarggghhhh



Before:

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First result after ONE coat of spray (flash picture as it was already dark):

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It looks really promising. These sprays cost a lot of money (over 17 Euro per can) but they are worth it. They spray VERY evenly, there is a LOT of paint in one can (not all are the same) dries very fast and covers excellent.

I also decided I'm going to change my way of spraying. I want the subject to be hanging on a hook. The reason is that I can "do" them in one go for all sides plus there is no paint sticking to the stuff I have under the object....

[Etienne MacGyver]

YESS !! then the powerbrick will look also new 

and as a crown to this jewel, some thingies in an enveloppe that will be dropped in your mailbox soon 

That will complete this resto !

Great job Andre ! 

[Muerto]

Looks great André! Thanks for the education in tube swap!!!

[level42]

BW tube swap= piece of cake, anyone can do it.

I forgot to mention that on that first pic I "scrubbed" away most of the rust already, using a Brillo pad.

Made it feel nice and smooth. Wasn't going to actually sand it all.....there are limits....