What to do with this cab

[ckong]

I got this from the Belgian Warehouse because I loved the side art. It has a scramble marquee, a hacked Zaccaria CP and there was a bezel in it which now is in Hungary.







There is not one sign inside  or outside the cab which gives away the manufacturer. Strange thing is that it has a Zaccaria Scramble marquee (at least, I think that it is a Zaccaria maquee) and the glass bezel was also a Zaccaria one. The monitor bezel seems also to be used in Zaccaria cabs. The beautiful side art looks like it is for a scramble cabinet. I already removed the monitor and monitor chassis, both made by the Italian brand Videocolor (the monitor chassis looks ancient).

I was planning to restore it to a complete Scramble again, using a Zaccaria Scramble bezel that I got last year (a beautiful NOS one) and a donor CPO. But....... today I noticed that this cab is about 1 cm smaller than a Zaccaria cab, meaning that the glass bezel doesn´t fit and the donor CP has to be resized a bit to fit.

But the real problem, how to get a proper glass bezel for it?

In fact, is it worth the trouble trying to restore it, or shall I just jammatise it with a 60 in 1 board so I can sell it and make some money with it?

[PaulSwan]

That is indeed a curious cabinet.

I could believe it is some sort of op or disti construction, but the monitor surround looking like a perfect fit looks too well done. The insides might indicate if it has Zaccaria wiring/PSU etc. so can you take some pictures of the inside? We can also see what monitor is has.

Paul.

[ckong]

I will make some pictures of the monitor and the chassis tomorrow and also one of the internals. There is a power brick in it and a switching PSU, not original I believe.

Here is a photo of how I found it



The bezel looks like a perfect fit, but it is about 1 cm smaller than the Zaccaria Scramble bezel that I have. 

[Digimon]

Can you please measure the size of the needed bezel?
I think there are different sizes of bezels.

I have an scramble bezel that should a little bit smaller then my starsplash bezels.
I can measure it on the weekend.

[Belike]

I think this cab is a repro, the bezel should be the same size in all Zaccs, even in Starsplash cabs.
The glass I got from you Erik has no Zacc logo on the bottom right corner, it is about 2 cm narrower and about 5 cm higher than the original one, I had to cut down a big part from the top and bottom to fit it to my Phoenix, which means the original Scramble bezel you have will far too small to fit in this cab.
Afaik, Zaccaria never made full upright cabs with flat marquee and if you compare the wooden base of the cp with your Vanguard, it is also completely different, the original is rounded on the edges.
From the inside, it supposed to look like exactly the same as the Vanguard also.
If I were you, I would sell it like this or with a 60 in 1 inside and buy an original Zacc Scramble, they pop up quite often these days.

[Etienne MacGyver]

I agree, sell it with its weird sized bezel 

smash a 60-1 in, the bezel looks pretty "generic" and a piece of plexi will do as a marquee

I would also like to see the inside though (just to tell you what to save out of it, and what you can dump with it)

Or...  keep it, and dont do any bezelswapping..


tough choice, the sidearts are indeed cool, but its not zacc, or anything else i seen before.
that last statement does make this a rare cabinet on the other hand 

[Alpha1]

Wouldn't surprise me if Zacc made it for someone else.

[Belike]

Coin door is also non-Zacc.

[Alpha1]

Pretty sure it's Italian built. It smells of Zaccaria, Sidam, Electronolo.

[ckong]

Can you please measure the size of the needed bezel?
I think there are different sizes of bezels.

I have an scramble bezel that should a little bit smaller then my starsplash bezels.
I can measure it on the weekend.

I measured it, the width of the bezel area is 59 cm, the height about 53.5 - 54 cm.

I took some more photo´s of the monitor and the inside

[PaulSwan]

Doesn't look like a Zaccaria cabinet - leading contender might be that it's a Euro cabinet that was populated with a Zac kit of everything-but-the-cab. A while back there was a Super Cobra cab that popped up like that (US Billiards Quasar is similar but they did there own art and only took the Zac electronics).

Don't recognize the monitor. It has some vague similiarities in terms of design to a Philips KT-3, but it definately isn't a KT-3. Possibly a later model, though. Looks like it's still based on the tripler design (split flyback) so if it is a later model it'd be the last iteration before single combined flyback designs came along. A quick search did turn up the existence of a KT-4 chassis but all the links about it are none-English language. If anyone can get the manual from here...

http://diagramasde.com/page/268?s=diagramas+de+tv

...then I'd be interested in seeing it. Since you pulled it out I'm assuming it doesn't work
Paul.

[Etienne MacGyver]

There are only 2 things i see as zacc there;
1. the grey cableguides
2. the warning sticker

the rest does not ring a bell to me..

[level42]

AFAIK Videocolor tubes are Philips tubes. It would be interesting if the chassis has some Videocolor markings on it because that would be a first for me.

Indeed I was thinking KT-3 or Philips chassis as my first idea too.

Don't chuck it just yet...

The HUUUUUUGE problems with these kind of chassis is that at one point in time some clever guy trout it would be smart to make one "motherboard" with the main parts and then put everything on modules. The idea was they could change features by leaving out/adding modules and it would be easier to repair them, just swap out a bad module ! Good idea, bad in reality though because the module contacts often caused problems, these TVs/monitors were very often showing problems.

Still, for history and documentation sake this is one interesting chassis.

I think the markings I can see are in Italian. Any more texts, letter combinations, markings Erik ?

Hope you put something under that CRT or was it heavily burnt ?

Know nothing about the cab, Even forgot you had that one from the warehouse !!!
Isn't that warning sticker above the back door German ? Think I saw it on some German built cabs...

So maybe this is a Zacc bootleg ?

[PaulSwan]

Well, don't chuck the chassis out, if you don't want it I'll take it off your hands since I still maintain KT-3's. That fly setup looks the same as the KT-3 (KT-3A at least) and it probably uses some of the same IC's.
Paul.

[ckong]

Both the monitor and the chassis are branded videocolor, and there is more (Italian) text on the chassis. I will post some more pictures tomorrow, in a separate topic, not to cloud up this topic.

I don´t know if the monitor/chassis is broken. Sure, I´ve never seen it working, but that is because the suction cup is completely ripped off its cable, showing burn marks at the end of the cable.

The monitor has no visible burn in and yes, I´m handling it carefully.

My question still stands though, should I keep the cab and restore it? I would like to, including using the videocolor combination (after it is refurbished of course), but everything stands or falls with finding a fitting Scramble bezel!

If I can´t find one, then I will jammatize the cab and decide then what to do with the videocolor combo.