Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: DarthNuno on January 29, 2009, 06:57:46 PM
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(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/lazy-pacmania.jpg)
28th of January... 2h15pm ... I'm at work... my mobile is ringing ...
(In a very bad French... so even impossible to translate in English ;D) :arrow:
- Are you Mr Bruno ? I've got a package for you ...
- Yes ! Is it big (I know I'm expecting an arcade game) ? Is it an arcade cabinet ?
- Weelll... a what ? huh... it's heavy ! It's coming from Germany!
- Does it is like a "fridge" :roll: :lol: ?
- Huh ... I would say yes... it's well packed ! Where do I put this ?
- Behind my house ... I've asked for that ... because I knew I were not at home, so please unload it BEHIND my house !
- OK, but I need a signature...huh ... wait ... your neighbor is there...
- Yes ask her to sign for me please !
- Huh ... mhhhh OK Mister !
Hang on... Well... I'm not sure if he understand ??? Ok ... let's quit my workplace... direction my house 8)
25 minutes later... YES :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_1.jpg)
Yes... it's what I was expected ;D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_2.jpg)
On the 'package', the instructions given to the seller :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_3.jpg)
...If I’m not present during the delivery, please give the instruction to let the game outside, but BEHIND my house, like this ->
...I’ve added 5€ in the price, so please put a max of bubble wrap/plastic around the game and especially on top, in order to protect it if it rain or something ;-)
Let's start this road trip ;D ...removing the crate...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_4.jpg)
1 METER TO GO :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_5.jpg)
Entering the house ;D
OK, the beast is in ::) :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_6.jpg)
It's not Christmas anymore... but... let's unpack this gift 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_7.jpg)
Hey... it looks very nice isn't it ;) :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_8.jpg)
Ok, so what to say for my road trip' stat ? ;D
Let's say : 1 meter ?! ::) ;D
What ?
Yes ... I'm Lazy on this one ;D ;D ;D
...but hey, this game is not working... so I'll have to work on it ::) ;D
Stay Tuned ... as usual ::) :pac: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:
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Nice as usual. :lol:
The cab is in real correct conditions
especially the fantastic "pacmania" marquee
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Beautiful cab and congrats on the shortest roadtrip yet.
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Nice pickup. Rich over at ThisOldGame (http://www.thisoldgame.com) is reproducing the side art.
Here is his blog post over at CoinOpSpace (http://classicarcades.ning.com/profiles/blogs/project-pacmania-part-1)
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What?? No GPS showing us this time where you went?? :( ;)
Ha Ha... Great find! Who will beat Bruno for the record of the Shortest Road Trip! ;D
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I love the marquee... really cool :-*
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Great job bruno! ;D
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All you need now is some side art ;D
posted update on progress on coinopspace.com
Pacmania Project: Part deux
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All you need now is some side art ;D
posted update on progress on coinopspace.com
Pacmania Project: Part deux
HI Rikitiki, and welcome here :-*
Yes... I'm checking all the time :D
OK, I'm coming again :wink: :arrow:
(http://api.ning.com/files/nQnrQIYgsJAoOKsLOuEdtC5mKaexGVkyBA-MbwSHW7ShFpuD7acF4JcmHr0JG6RD3aOVz-tHSC1bBXBglpqMDT1qiISzr9eA/pacpairweb.jpg)
Woowooowoo wWOoowoow :o :-* :-* :-*
Here's the direct http://classicarcades.ning.com/profiles/blogs/project-pacmania-part-deux (http://classicarcades.ning.com/profiles/blogs/project-pacmania-part-deux) ;)
:pac: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:
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Here's other pictures of the cabinet... still not cleaned yet ( :oops:).
The control panel :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-uncleaned1.jpg)
The marquee. As you can see, slightly damaged :ghost: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-uncleaned2.jpg)
The bad think : no board inside the cabinet :? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-uncleaned3.jpg)
I've just missed one on ebay US :evil: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-uncleaned4.jpg)
...went for $115 ...without shipping cost ... too expensive, and too risky when I read this : "Item is sold untested and inspected as is, as seen. NO warrenty implied or given unless stated in auction description..."
I don't have access to the coin door #2... I can see, from the upper coin door something inside a plastic bag in the cash box... I presume it's the manual of the game and/or the monitor? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-uncleaned5.jpg)
...I'll have to drill the lock, 'coz I don't have the key :?
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Well, still nothing done yet ... except moving the cab into the game room ;D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-lair1.jpg)
Snow !!! Yes... welcome in Belgium :P
OK, be careful here... I'm using some carpet pieces from the V2, in order to protect the V1 carpet :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-lair2.jpg)
On location... in the 'to restore' area ::) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-lair3.jpg)
The wife is happy... one more game 'removed' from our house :P ;D
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The wife is happy... one more game 'removed' from our house :P ;D
Warning, she will ask you soon to change the wallpaper in the entrance :lol:
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Warning, she will ask you soon to change the wallpaper in the entrance :lol:
Yes... I think I won't be able to skip that for long... :oops: no more excuse, 'coz the Nuno's Lair V2 is finished now ...
Hey, wait... What about the V(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/Themes/default/images/post/G3.gif) ? ::) :P
;D
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Let's start to work on this one.
No key for the second coin door. No problem... let's use the drill... and let's discover what was the sheets of paper hidden inside...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-manual1.jpg)
One sheet of paper, and the Sanyo monitor documentation :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-manual2.jpg)
Here's the sheet of paper...Funny ;D It was supposed to be the manual? But it's just a note that tell you to be patient... the manual will be available soon ;) ... we are the 24rd of November 1987 :D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-manual3.jpg)
To release a game without the documentation? Strange isn't it ? Or Maybe PacMania was just an upgrade kit for an other cabinet?
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bruno, what kind of drill (size) are you using to drill open the lock? Do you drill a hole in the middle of the lock to open it?
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bruno, what kind of drill (size) are you using to drill open the lock? Do you drill a hole in the middle of the lock to open it?
I've used this one :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/meche.jpg)
And... if you look very close, you'll see that the bit is broken :oops:
When you drill, you must stay straight... and I've done circle moves, that's the reason why I've broken it :roll: :oops: Hopefully, it was at the end of the job ;)
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Bruno, did you do a mark using before you drill ?
using this kind of tool, I don't know the english word for 'pointeau' :
(http://www.optimachines.com/file/products/1422/Pointeau%20automatique%20limit.jpg)
It helps to stay in the axis, get a regular hole and avoid to break it.
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There a couple of names, depends on the type of surface you are drilling....
1. A centre punch, typically used for metal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_(engineering) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_(engineering))
2. An awl or bradawl (beveled), typically used for wood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awl)
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I've done this too, and there is no easy way to drill out a lock, Just use a New metal bit, and if your drill is a variable speed, start off slowly and just hold it tight in the center, and you'll feel the lock "pop" unlocked when you drill all the way through..
Sometimes, you can drill all the way through, and it still won't open, just get a large flathead screwdriver, and put a wrench on the handle and give a turn, that'll get it!! ;)
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Side art for sale (http://forums.klov.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1085595&an=0&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD)
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Side art for sale (http://forums.klov.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1085595&an=0&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD)
Hey, thanks for the notification ;)
I'll have to wait until coinopspace.com will be up again (see :arrow: Coinopspace.com temporarily down (http://www.rotheblog.com/arcade/coinopspace-arcade/coinopspacecom-temporarily-down/#comments))) :-X
Hope Jeff won't have too much trouble to bring it back online.
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Got a package from US :) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_side_1.jpg)
It's coming from ...
(http://thisoldgame.com/title3.jpg) (http://thisoldgame.com/NewHomeTOG.htm)
SCREEN PRINTED REPRODUCTIONS AND FABRICATIONS OF COIN-OP PARTS
Very well packaged by the way :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_side_2.jpg)
YES :P THIS IS IT ! I got the pair of 'side art' stickers :P :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_side_3.jpg)
Arghh... I can wait to see them ... 'on location' :P
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Arghh... I can wait to see them ... 'on location' :P
I can't wait either to see them on there, PAC-MANIA has very cool side art! 8)
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OK, before applying the new repro side art, let's check... the sides :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix1.jpg)
Well, this is not good :-X
For some reason, both side has been repainted in the past :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix2.jpg)
...and if you look closer... the job has been done very quickly ... and very baldy ??? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix3.jpg)
The guy who done this didn't sand the paint properly (before and/or after applying the paint) :oops: See :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix4.jpg)
He didn't protect the T-molding, see the remain of the white paint here :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix6.jpg)
Hey... I would be able to find the 'guilty man', I presume it's one of his hairs in the paint ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania-side-to-fix5.jpg)
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OK, let's work on the first side... ugly isn't it? :? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone1.jpg)
First, I'm using Acetone in order to remove the deep these dirty marks :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone2.jpg)
...and in order to remove this (the remain of the ugly white paint putted by someone in the past I still don't know why! >:( ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone3.jpg)
...I'm sanding the side manually (sandpaper = 600) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone4.jpg)
On this picture, you see the result of the work... almost done ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone5.jpg)
Ok... totally done :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone6.jpg)
Same job on the other side.
Before :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone7.jpg)
After :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_acetone8.jpg)
:spaceace:
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...lazy job today... only easy stuff... like fixing a new tube :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_neon1.jpg)
And... *at least* ... let's see how the marquee look now, after its "Pac Mania's Adventures (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=647.0)" :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_neon2.jpg)
Very nice :-* Did you know Pac Man has a tongue by the way? See :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_neon3.jpg)
I love this marquee :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_neon4.jpg)
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Looks Terriffic!!! ;D
I remember playing this game when it was new, in Seattle, Washington... When I was in the US Coast Guard! The local arcade just uncrated it, and I played it... Awesome! It was soo cool to play Pac Man in 3D (new concept) :wink:
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Back on this ;)
Still not a PacMania board yet, but I want to test if the original monitor is working, so let's prepare an accurate PacMania setup ;)
PacMania is not a game that you can emulate with a low end / too old computer :?
To be accurate, the scrolling must be 100% perfect, running @ 60 Hz / frames per second. Strange, but impossible to have a perfect one under dos advancemame, even with a 2.2 ghz computer + Arcade VGA :-\ For some reasons, it looks that DOS cannot handle it (I presume DOS is not sending data to the graphic card fast enough like the accurate XP drivers do, in other other words the more recent gfx cards are not made to be used under DOS).
Fortunately for me, with absolutely perfect with that same computer under XP :P 8)
Ok, now let's test the original monitor...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt3.jpg)
...working :-*
The controls are not ready yet... so I can just watch for the moment :pac: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt2.jpg)
Did I already say it? No? I Love RGB on CRT :-* :-* :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_mnt6.jpg)
...and Yeah :) The monitor is working fine :)
:-*
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Looking to be a successful project end coming up!! Looking Terriffic!!! :D
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Ok, time to apply the side art stickers.
I'll use the original PacMania flyer as a reference for the correct stickers location...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side1.jpg)
...as usual, I'll maintain the upper part of the side art to the cab, and apply the lowest part first...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side2.jpg)
...once it's done, I'm coming back on the upper part...et voilà 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side3.jpg)
It's always the same question at this point : How many air bubbles? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side4.jpg)
No stress, it fine :P :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side5.jpg)
...same job on the other side :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/side/pacmania_side6.jpg)
The quality of this reproduction is exceptional :-* :-* :-*
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wonderful! now you only need a pcb to finish this ...
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not exactly... I've also some work to do regarding the control panel and ... the Atari Joystick as you'll see.
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My basic strategy is to use a dril that's a little bit larger than the area where the key goes and drill away. Ruin as much as possible. If I think it has had enough I will take a big flat screwdriver and try to force it in as much as possible and then give it a good turn. If it doesn't work, more drilling is needed. Then I try the screwdriver again. At a ceratain point the lock will give and you'll be able to turn it open with the screwdriver. So far my highly unscientific way. But it works.
Oh and you can just as well remove it from the back if that's already open of course :D
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or just pick (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lock+picking&search_type=&aq=f) the lock 8)
after the door opens, then the second option from Level42 is very easy and you dont need to crawl through your cab :D
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well, crawling through the cab at least gives it a first basic cleaning ;)
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Let's start to work on the control panel.
The overall condition is not bad at all...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_1.jpg)
Now let's see why I cannot go 'down' on this original Atari joystick (I cannot hear the sound of the switch) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_2.jpg)
Let's return the control panel... very simple & clean one as you can see :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_3.jpg)
Ok, it seems to be a problem of ...dust ::) See, the 'white ball' cannot move as it should do :? :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_4.jpg)
Let's put all the plastic part inside a simple soap+water bath...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_5.jpg)
'Almost' like new? ::) ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_6.jpg)
...not exactly, but clean enough to be working now :-* I can go all in four direction without any resistance now, see the 'white ball' dust free :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_control_panel_7.jpg)
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I can go all in four direction without any resistance now, see the 'white ball' dust free
dust-free perhaps, but not rust-free ;) do i see rust there on the shaft?
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I can go all in four direction without any resistance now, see the 'white ball' dust free
dust-free perhaps, but not rust-free ;) do i see rust there on the shaft?
no, thats "decorative brown" ;D
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;)
OK, let's continue to clean the CP parts.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_vis_1.jpg)
Bath 1 : Anti rust for metal parts / Bath 2 : Strong soap + water for cleaning the plastic parts...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_vis_2.jpg)
...oh... and yes, 'bath' number 3 for drinking (Dr Pepper inside) ::) :P ;D
It looks better now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_vis_3.jpg)
The usual 'mushrooms' picture ... for the 4 screws used to maintain the joystick... beware... fresh paint 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_vis_4.jpg)
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did you sand the 4 screws befor paint?
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did you sand the 4 screws befor paint?
Of course ;)
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ok... pics or it did´nt happen! ;D
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ok... pics or it did´nt happen! ;D
Hey... it's a 'Lazy' roadtrip, and also... a 'Lazy' restoration... so, I don't publish all the steps ;D :-*
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but i wanna study your technique... :lol: :lol: :spaceace:
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What grit sandpaper do you use? 200?
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;)
OK, let's continue to clean the CP parts.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_vis_1.jpg)
Nuno: how You cleaned the Atari start button? Just a full immersion on the soap or other way? ??? ???
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RAM controls sells some replacement parts for this joystick. I read they made the joystick play like new somewhere on a thread but can't seem to find it now...
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Found it:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=95094.msg1006922#msg1006922
and here's some more info about them:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=101229&highlight=gauntlet+joystick
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but i wanna study your technique... :lol: :lol: :spaceace:
thats easy, put it in a drill and apply sandpaper ;D
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I use to take sand paper #600 :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/galaga/speakg9.jpg)
...but sometime (when I'm lazy ::) ), I use my Dremel, like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-6.jpg)
8)
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Although the control panel overlay is in good general condition (except few scratches), it's very dirt... and cover of white paint spots :evil: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_3.jpg)
OK, let's us the magic sponge 'Mr Propre' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_4.jpg)
Not perfect, but faaaaaaar better now :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_5.jpg)
Let's put back together all the panels items...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_panel_clean_6.jpg)
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I knew I had to find one 'eject coin' push button, because one is missing ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_coindoor_1.jpg)
...so in one of my (too) many orders I added a new one... but didn't pay attention I would have an US on, and I would prefer a German one for this project.
I can live with two different push-buttons, but it looks a little bit strange ::)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_coindoor_2.jpg)
... maybe someone here may have a German one for me? ::)
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... maybe someone here may have a German one for me? ::)
*BUMP* ::)
...otherwise, I got the perfect keyring for this cab' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum2/Neo_Legend_Paris_34.jpg)
:pac:
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...otherwise, I got the perfect keyring for this cab' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum2/Neo_Legend_Paris_34.jpg)
yesss, that's like the one i'm looking for - only already keyring-ready :)! would you mind telling me where you got that, i need to have it as well? do the ghosts also exist as keyrings?
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yesss, that's like the one i'm looking for - only already keyring-ready :)! would you mind telling me where you got that, i need to have it as well? do the ghosts also exist as keyrings?
See that topic (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2438) 8)
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ah, cool, hadn't read that yet. obviously there's also a red ghost and a bigger keyring pac-man - i definitely need to have those, i'll contact remi immediately! ;D hopefully he will ship ... but wait, you said paris, there's a roadtrip coming up next week, perhaps i can pay the guys a visit. where exactly is that place located?
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... maybe someone here may have a German one for me? ::)
*BUMP* ::)
...otherwise, I got the perfect keyring for this cab' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum2/Neo_Legend_Paris_34.jpg)
:pac:
I will take a look in my spare parts tomorrow, but i think i have a german one (1DM). 8)
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Nice but I'd love to have a Ms.Pac keychain ! :)