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General Chat => Technical Area => Topic started by: bencao74 on August 04, 2012, 11:18:47 PM
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Hey,
just got my space duel and it worked for few moments without flaws. But then the upper screen half broke down in one line.
Checked the connectors, seems ok. Checked voltage on Game PCB = 5.0V, check voltage before connector 5.15V
Did some measures on transistors, seemed ok. But I lack on a good approach. Where to start? Any recommend reading?
Bye
Jochen
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Read this:
http://www.ultrathegame.com/tempest/6100_faq.pdf
Then read it again, then you sleep one night and read it one more time. Now you are ready for the next step :)
My guess: cracks in the soldering islands around the connectors that go to the deflection transistors. Redo ALL the solderings of ALL connectors. Even then it is still possible the cracks are in the PCB tracks, right after the islands. Ask me how I know this.....
Even when you completely redo the soldering it will still show the same problem. Also check the deflection transistor holders and the wires running to them.
I'be written about it here before...try some searching. 6100's are a PITA and were a great part of the demise of vector games IMHO. Very incorrectly these problems were blamed because it was vector monitors, but rasters with a poor set-up like the 6100 would have failed just as often....
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Thanks, andre :spaceace: i took the deflecttion pcb, measured all parts and everything was fine. On the bottom some solder points was bad and even loose. Resoldered all connectors and the game wored again like a charm. :) candidate for eucade I guess ;)
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;D ;D ;D :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Nice row: Lunar Lander, Asteroids (OK it will be Asterock), Space Duel.......
OK, who brings the missing Asteroids Deluxe ? ;D ;D
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Is Eric going to bring the Gravitar?
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He suggested BW but that was not set in stone I know.
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BW is a wonderfull choice. Image a row with Gravitar, Black Widow, Space Duel. :)
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Here are some roadtrip pics.
last weekend I got my horse trailer. So what to do with a horse trailer? Of course, transporting Cabs :) It came just in time since I was ordering a space duel from US.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PNEPKMJJo7w/UB501jbVwII/AAAAAAAAEdI/cWcsQ6KDhgQ/s320/2012-08-03_09-21-12_165.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5OmF1tiAADE/UB505UHV1QI/AAAAAAAAEdQ/Ak9CZjxcVDY/s320/2012-08-03_10-33-08_817.jpg)
This is spedition ramp I had to fetch my "package". Didn`t know that I had to wait about an hour. But it was ok.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aUWRJosuwIw/UB509aAWFkI/AAAAAAAAEdY/_B7jTITJfbI/s320/2012-08-03_10-44-14_922.jpg)
My gf was helping me. I never will forget her face when I was carrying the cab to the trailers with the help of one spedition workers. Thanks a lot!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pyT_FSQS1uk/UB51F8qlG8I/AAAAAAAAEds/EqWs1Of6zaI/s320/2012-08-03_10-44-26_5.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7siluIMWgbA/UB51-jIVeiI/AAAAAAAAEd0/5XD_byDXwAg/s320/IMG_0121.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JQYZCSuc4RY/UB52EnG3-_I/AAAAAAAAEd8/QuxYv5xa2GY/s320/IMG_0123.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xv6cd765Jk4/UB52Ke6-azI/AAAAAAAAEeE/m4Cs4cFS58c/s320/IMG_0124.JPG)
Since I`m having laminate floor I`m protecting it by using adhensive protective foil.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xo8WK6hOinA/UB52SLNVWPI/AAAAAAAAEeQ/56JJrCfr5-E/s320/IMG_0129.JPG)
The sounds and the bass is awesome. This is pic from the bak. Left hand side is the PCB. This cab has 4 speakers.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u9MS2QkuIJo/UB52Y9G4V3I/AAAAAAAAEeY/vfWWcrERhBM/s320/IMG_0133.JPG)
The Cab comes from US so it has US plugs. Luckily I had a brown PSU adapter from my Atari Pole Position Sitdown left I can use here! Question left is how to handle the marquee lighting.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kCZkl5DtEe8/UB52fCkSEKI/AAAAAAAAEeg/gtRBm0KEmfM/s320/IMG_0135.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9Kgg84AyfWI/UB52lVMORrI/AAAAAAAAEeo/vayeTVzQXgs/s320/IMG_0181.JPG)
Turned the cab on and after 10 sec the Y deflection broke down.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-60naNAkHmak/UB52rwpNcFI/AAAAAAAAEe0/5DPkNVs7tPo/s320/IMG_0182.JPG)
fixed deflection pcb...
http://bencao74.blogspot.de/2012/08/gameroom-space-duell-road-trip-and-setup.html (http://bencao74.blogspot.de/2012/08/gameroom-space-duell-road-trip-and-setup.html)
pics in higher resolution
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YEAH! You got it ... working! Congrats man ... I want to play it ... now. ;)
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this saturday...
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congratulations, jochen! looks like the "import thingy" is starting to gain ground on mainland europe these days. fabulous catch!!!
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So, how much did you have to pay in total for the shipping ?
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400USD for the cab
350USD for shipping
240€ for harbor fees incl. custom tax
--> 840€
The risk of getting scrap is of course free ;) For me it was fine since the cab comes exactly in the condition described. Since the cab arrived in Bremen I could save some money getting the cab myself.
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Cheap transport IMHO, a lot cheaper than by plane. Well done.
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great price for a space duel - well done, jochen. you "northern guys" have the advantage of having a port right at your doorstep, there's nothing like a port in sight "down here", but at least we have hills and mountains ;)
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great price for a space duel - well done, jochen. you "northern guys" have the advantage of having a port right at your doorstep, there's nothing like a port in sight "down here", but at least we have hills and mountains ;)
I've got the biggest port in Europe in my backyard ;D ;D. Hills and mountains only block my sight/travel ;););)
I really like the horse trailer idea. Probably best device to transport upright cabs. I assume no horses will be transported in it anymore ?
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The horse trailer is really good for picking up cabs. The entrace is 1.90m heigth 1.35m width. Inside is 2m something. So 3-4 cabs can be transported. Normally a trailer with a green sign is only allowed to transport horses. You have to declare a black sign and then everything else in allowed to transport. Additionally a 100km/h sign can be requested. :)
Until EUcade no horses are allowed in the trailer ;)
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Except this of course:
http://youtu.be/1C0Nbp88j2Q
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I definitely wanna play that horse riding game!! Last year in Blankenberge, they had a quite similar game. I wated to ride that damn little pony but there were kids all over that thing. I had no chance in hours to take a ride. Although I lined up with a bunch of four year olds until their parents seemed a little concerned about the mental safety of their children looking at my naked-girl-underarm-tattoos. I decided to leave the queue before the daddys kicked my ass :(
- Sorry for derailing this thread - back to topic please! ;)
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Tempted to put a funny remark about pony riding here but.......better not :)