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Title: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 09, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
Yes that time is coming for me to sell my NOS Hantarex vector monitor. It's tough as I don't want to sell it, but then I don't need it either as I don't have any Zac vector games.

Pix coming soon.
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Belike on March 09, 2012, 01:34:02 PM
Hmmm.... Sounds interesting. :D
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 09, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
 :shock: :shock: :shock:

A NOS vector monitor ? Wow !

I bet these are even non-existent in the US....

If you see what just a new b/w tube is worth, this should be worth quite a bit.

On the other hand, it's a Hantarex and not very much is known about them considering possible problems/fixes etc.

Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 09, 2012, 05:41:38 PM
Just had another good look at Speleo's pics of this monitor and I must say that Hantarex did a much better job then Electrohome and WG when it comes to layout and set-up.

http://andysarcade.de/data/picseries/vecmon_hantarex_mtrv/overview.html

 A couple of decent heatsinks instead of cheaply putting the deflection transistors on the frame. The transistors are also soldered directly to the PCB without using connectors, a smart move because those are often a cause of problems on the US vectors.

The layout of the PCBs is very clean and structured. In typical Hantarex style they seem to have needed more parts then the US monitors. On one hand that introduces more possible defects, on the other I always think there must have been a reason and seeing the shortcuts to save money   that the US vectors made on the transistor placing I wouldn't be surprised if the US factorys took shortcuts in the electronics as well....

The power supply section has its own board which was nice if they would have to swap just the PS section or the deflection board. At least it keeps things separated a bit....

Also good to see decent fuse holders with Euro sized fuses. The diodes and resistors that get hot all have some ceramic spacers probably to keep the heat from the PCB....

In total ther obviously went some thought in this one...

Mind you, the Electrohomes produce great pictures and once rebuild are quite reliable but it looks like Hantarex learned a bit from others mistakes...

It says nothing, the Hantarex may well have certain issues no-one knows about because so few of them seem to be out there, but I really like how it looks :)

Note to Speleo: the link to the manual is dead...
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 09, 2012, 06:10:22 PM
Here is the manual:
http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Monitors/Hantarex%20MTRV.pdf

Manual says there was an option for 10bit digital connection which of course was to handle the Cinematronics games...
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: speleo_de on March 09, 2012, 07:21:02 PM
Note to Speleo: the link to the manual is dead...

Fixed.
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 09, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
Dankeschön !!  ;D
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 11, 2012, 11:24:01 PM
Here is the manual:
http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Monitors/Hantarex%20MTRV.pdf

Manual says there was an option for 10bit digital connection which of course was to handle the Cinematronics games...

Wow that is good to know. Makes snse as the Zacc games are Cinematronics.
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 11, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
Yup....plus some bootlegs ;)

Maybe yours is equipped with this option ?

Would love to see pics Oll....
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 16, 2012, 12:41:44 AM
Dude.....stop torturing us....we NEED pics !!!
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: DarthNuno on March 16, 2012, 06:24:47 AM
Damn! We should bring that NOS vector monitor to a China company and ask them to replicate it, let's say a run of 2000 units...  8)
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Belike on March 16, 2012, 11:21:59 AM
Dude.....stop torturing us....we NEED pics !!!
A small preview :D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pv2sf6qv2l0/TXY7EtsDG8I/AAAAAAAAEGs/TNoIhrOsGQE/s800/Arcade%2520day%2520037.jpg)
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 16, 2012, 11:37:25 AM
Dude.....stop torturing us....we NEED pics !!!
A small preview :D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pv2sf6qv2l0/TXY7EtsDG8I/AAAAAAAAEGs/TNoIhrOsGQE/s800/Arcade%2520day%2520037.jpg)

Space Pirate ?
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 16, 2012, 12:43:47 PM
Nah, it must be Bela's top-secret Hungarian-only Vector-Kong. Only 2 were made I hear....
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Belike on March 16, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
Lol, yeah it's the Pirate Kong. ;)
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 16, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Reminds me, yours must have that digital input board fitted right Béla ?

I know we studied it a bit last Eurocade but I already forgot  :oops:
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 16, 2012, 10:20:34 PM
Pix are Coming
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Belike on March 16, 2012, 11:21:46 PM
Reminds me, yours must have that digital input board fitted right Béla ?

I know we studied it a bit last Eurocade but I already forgot  :oops:
I have no idea, I will check it. :D
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 25, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
Pix are Coming
What year buddy ?
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: PaulSwan on March 26, 2012, 01:29:41 AM
The Zaccaria versions of the Cinematronics XY games have the DAC's on the PCB's. The PCB should output a standard analogue XY signal that drives the Hantarex. I was thinking of doing an adaptor to run the Zac PCB in an Asteroids cab - it should be possible.

In theory, I could reuse one of my converted Quasar cabs to "make up" a Space Pirate/Fortress using the Hantarex. The up side is that the Hanty is original for the game, the downside I'd need to make up a power supply and wiring loom (don't know whats needed for that yet). On the other hand, the Asteroids I have isn't worth restoring and will end up parted out anyway, so I could transplant the entire internals with the G05, PSU, AR, loom etc and then only need an adaptor to run the SP/SF PCB in it (and I could still run Asteroids in it). It's also a more widely understood platform with readily available spare parts. Tough call really.

Paul.
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Belike on March 26, 2012, 07:42:02 AM
Sounds like an interesting plan........ ;)
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 26, 2012, 01:18:59 PM
I took some pix....

Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 26, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
I unwrapped it and took a few pictures. The monitor is mint, literally brand spanking new looking (well it is brand spanking new!) This photo doesn't do it justice, it's MINT.

Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Alpha1 on March 26, 2012, 01:23:14 PM
And of the back. Again the photo does not do it justice at all. It is spotless. I put it back in the box unwrapped - but before transport i'll put it back in the wrapping and then back in the box.

Every nut and bolt is shiny and new, the black monitor frame is literally like it just came back from powder coating. The tube is just new looking.

Awesome.

Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 26, 2012, 01:58:25 PM
That-       looks horny !

Ok name your price sir.

One advice: although that box looks totally sweet it doesn't seem up to still protecting that delicate thing inside of it....I guess over the years these boxes grow weaker because the cardboard is loosing its strength. Some moisture will be absorbed by the cardboard, no matter how dry you keep it....besides, that original box is part of the whole thing, isn't it ;)

I would definitly put the entire thing in a new box if it will need to be shipped. In fact, I wouldn't trust any transport company with a unique and delicate item like that.....it's better if someone picks it up....
If I am not going to be the buyer I could still at least bring it back over the channel if someone on mainland Europe wants it.
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 26, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
P.S. did you see what brand tube is in it ?
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: Muerto on March 26, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Don´t you think you will kick yourself in the arse for selling it, if one of your other vectors suddenly dies??
Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: level42 on March 26, 2012, 02:10:58 PM
Don´t you think you will kick yourself in the arse for selling it, if one of your other vectors suddenly dies??

Nah, BW vectors can always be fixed......unless the HVT dies but that seems to (about) never happen...

(Now you hush Mr.Muerto, that Baby would look sweet in my Lunar Lander ;););) )

Title: Re: The price of a NOS still in box vector monitor
Post by: PaulSwan on March 26, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
I'm hoping to sort something out with Oll for it on the 28th ;)
Paul.