Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Dragon's Lair / Space Ace => Topic started by: DarthNuno on June 10, 2006, 08:04:05 AM
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First of all, have a look at the nice roadtrip done to bring back the cab' from UK to Belgium right here :wink: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/roadtrips/Space%20Ace%20-%20banner.jpg) (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=101.0)
The beast :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar1.jpg)
...the back...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar2.jpg)
... water damages...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar3.jpg)
...control panel...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar4.jpg)
...behind the invisible 'ghost marquee', the neon... (dedicated to PO|NG :wink: )
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar5.jpg)
...the cab' bottom... ouch :?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar6.jpg)
...This SA stil has an identity :roll: :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar7.jpg)
...I hate water...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar8.jpg)
...and humidity :x !!!
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar9.jpg)
...when water & wood unites :? ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar10.jpg)
The monitor still there... Does it work ? ... I'll see that next :shock:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar11.jpg)
Ok, let's start to remove everything ( well, there is no many things to remove in fact :lol: ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar12.jpg)
Exit the monitor, the coins door, the control panel...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar13.jpg)
Ok, in that postion I can start to repair the base... my god, what an HUGE restoration project :?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sar14.jpg)
Stay Tuned 8)
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The tools of the day :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood1.jpg)
Let's start to repair the base :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood2.jpg)
First of all, removing the bad wood...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood3.jpg)
...then use a 'wood filler' :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood4.jpg)
I'm sanding it... manually...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood5.jpg)
All the front is done...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood6.jpg)
...but I need to put some more 'wood filler' to finish as clean as possible and removing small holes...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sawood7.jpg)
... first time I'm doing that kind of job, so be indulgent... :oops: :wink:
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Let's continue 'to fill' to wood 8) 8) 8) (my english's too bad... sorry :oops: )
A lot of work to do on that corner :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rdam1.jpg)
I'm not scared :D (mweeeelllll maybe I should :?: :roll: :? )
Let's rock :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rdam2.jpg)
In that way, I'll scuplt the main shape...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rdam3.jpg)
In the same time, I'm removing the used vinyl on that side :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rdam4.jpg)
...to continue...
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Ok, the 'front base' is not totally finished, but I prefere to repair all the base first. I'll come back to it l8ter :|
Now, have a look on the left side. I'm starting to remove the vinyl :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas1.jpg)
The low corner is very damaged :x And I've to remove more wood to keep the strong one :? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas2.jpg)
...The upper corner, also well damaged :? :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas4.jpg)
Ok, I'm starting to fill the base...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas3.jpg)
Space Ace ... naked :oops: :D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas5.jpg)
...now the top corner to do...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sas6.jpg)
:arrow: At this point, nothing is sanded...
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My god, the front-top is STRONGLY damaged :shock: :cry: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt1.jpg)
...ouch.... :x ... :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt2.jpg)
Ok, let's try to fix that... :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt3.jpg)
... OK, the surface under the vinyl is plane...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt4.jpg)
...and there is it :D :D :D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt5.jpg)
One side is now fixed... :P ... Well, I mean the top for that side :roll: My good, it take a lot of time to repair that... :? But be indulgent, it's the first time I'm doing such wood reparation 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/badt6.jpg)
StAy TuNeD :roll:
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:shock: that a lot of work, that road trip was like the LAST CRUSADE :wink:
do you have the parts to fix the inside ? laser ect ...?
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Thanks ArcadeFever :P :P :P
By the way I really like your parody picture here :
(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4906/f0rh.jpg)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, I've almost all the parts to complete that Cab :wink:
- NTSC video disc player
- Space Ace laser disc NTSC
- A set of 2 brand new sidearts + cpo + marquee ( from quaterarcade, repro under Bluth License )
- New black vinyl
- New T-molding
- New wico joystick
- New repro plexi
- New repro marquee bracket
I have to repair all the cab first, and rebuild some parts...
I don't know if the monitor is working yet...
Well, I'm far from the end... but that Space Ace cab' will rise again, be sure of that 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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still a long list to do.... but you have most of the stuff, so that great
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Hurray :P The first side is now completed... 8) ... well I mean all the wood repair on it :o
Have a look a the base...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi1.jpg)
All the side...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi2.jpg)
The two top corners has been rebuild...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi3.jpg)
Overall view...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi4.jpg)
Once again, the base...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi5.jpg)
...and the top...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi6.jpg)
Well, let's do the same job for the second side of the cab' :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi7.jpg)
Holy Jesus :? Why the hell that cab got so water damages :evil: :? ???
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi8.jpg)
Anyway... here we go again... :oops: :oops: :oops:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi9.jpg)
Let's remove the vinyl...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi10.jpg)
Naked !!! :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sifi11.jpg)
StAY TuNeD 8)
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... ok, let's start to repair that second side :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/smalladv.jpg)
Ouch...it's very too hot these days : 35°C (remember, I'm in Belgium)... it take ages to dry... :?
...stay tuned... :oops:
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...some progress today, on the second side (too many games to restore on the same time :? 8) ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/spasi1.jpg)
closer :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/spasi2.jpg)
... to continue, of course :lol: 8)
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...now I've to 'sculpt' properly the base :o
Before :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/base1.jpg)
After :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/base2.jpg)
...let's go for the opposite side :twisted: 8)
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big job :D :D
but the low angle of SA/DL is not round but to straight angle :evil:
hehehehe
have you done him so because more resistant??
I wanted to ask a question :
do you have the utensil to make the groove for the T-MOLDING??
if I can advise you...
I have used this is tool :
http://www.oliviero.it/shop/283/330/331/articolo.php?codice=9353
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Back on the pro
OK, one little more reparation to do :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout1.jpg)
...done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout2.jpg)
Hey... a good friend : my old router :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout3.jpg)
...time to do THE delicate job ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout4.jpg)
Ok, that cab' is now ready for T-molding... but I'll do that l8ter 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout5.jpg)
No more things to cut now. There shouldn't be no more dust in that room... :roll: Let's clean the cab :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout6.jpg)
... :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout7.jpg)
Clean now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout8.jpg)
...even inside the cab' :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout9.jpg)
Here is the actual status :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/rout10.jpg)
Next step : painting the front of the cab... :o
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GO GO GO GO :D
GOOD job !!!!
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Painting time :idea:
Here's the tools of the day :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint1.jpg)
I'l use satin black paint, as close as possible as the original paint.
A last shot before painting... :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint2.jpg)
First test...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint3.jpg)
... 16 hours later, Let's sand the imperfection :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint4.jpg)
I'm recoverning the 'inside border', to protect the origina vinyl from new paint :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint5.jpg)
First layer :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint6.jpg)
Beware : fresh paint :lol:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint7.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint8.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sapaint9.jpg)
Ok, now let's wait 24 hours the 2nd layer :o
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OKey, 36 hours later, I'm applying the second layer :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-1.jpg)
... and 36 hours later, it's now all dry... I think 2 layers will be enough 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-2.jpg)
...removing the protection :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-3.jpg)
...and there it is :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-5.jpg)
I cannot resist... ACE ... Stand Up !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-6.jpg)
I'm really happy with that result :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-7.jpg)
Can't you believe it's the same cab at this point :roll: :wink: :?:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-8.jpg)
It's not 100% perfect, but it's fine for me :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-9.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-10.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-11.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-12.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/2nd-13.jpg)
OK... next step : to apply the vinyl :o
Stay TuNeD :wink:
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Bruno,
Ther is a Saying that says "YOU CANNOT POLISH A TURD" and with the restoration you are doing on the Space Ace, you have just proved that the saying is unbelievable, as you can certainly polish a turd!!!!! well done my friend, cannot wait to see her up running and finished.
Take care
-Jas
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Thanks for your comments Jason :)
Time to apply the vinyl...
Let's test that first on the front speaker panel.
It looks like this :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa1.jpg)
I remove the old damaged vinyl, and I'm starting to sand with a very small grain :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa2.jpg)
and I remove all the dust, of course :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa3.jpg)
OK, here's the NEW vinyl ( thanks again Jas' :o ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa4.jpg)
I can't miss the thing... coz I just have the right amount of vinyl for that, and the two cab' sides :?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa5.jpg)
Well, I'm not sure if the glue on that vinyl will be strong enough, so I'll use this adhesive spray :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa6.jpg)
I apply the spray...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa7.jpg)
...and put the vinyl :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa8.jpg)
I'll use this blade to cut it :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa9.jpg)
...like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa10.jpg)
and here's the final result :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/speapa11.jpg)
I'm happy with the result :D But I think I don't need to use adhesive spray anymore, coz' the original adhesive on the vinyl looks strong enough 8)
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..and now, ladies & gentlemen.. the most thrilling part : new vinyl on both cab' side :?
Ok, I cut the first side shape, slightly bigger than the true dimension of course :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside1.jpg)
... hopefully, the amount of vinyl that I have is just enough for both side, well done Jas' :roll: :wink:
Here's the rest of the vinyl... I'll use it for seconde side l8ter :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside2.jpg)
Before applying the vinyl, I'll manually sand the side one more time with a thiny grain :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside3.jpg)
Here is how I'm fixing the vinyl. I can't do it alone, so... I'm calling "Darth Nunette" to help me :wink:
I fix the lower part like this...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside4.jpg)
...I can now apply the upper part :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside5.jpg)
Now that the upper part is fixed, I can apply now the lower part like this :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside6.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside7.jpg)
Done 8) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside8.jpg)
First side is... DONE :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside9.jpg)
... arg, I can't resist :roll: :roll: :roll:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside10.jpg)
I'll fix it now... I'm choosing the right place for the side ( I've used some Space Ace side pictures taken at the Jason's Lair to adjust it as best as possible ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside11.jpg)
Like the vinyl, I'll apply the side art sticker in two steps.
1 -> The lower part :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside12.jpg)
2 -> The rest... easy :D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside13.jpg)
...and I finally remove the protecting layer :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside14.jpg)
...and there is it :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside15.jpg)
:P :P :P
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OK, let's go with the other side :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/other1.jpg)
...same job : adjusting the vinyl + side art appy... 8)
Time for T-Molding now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/other2.jpg)
...done for the first side :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/other3.jpg)
For the second side, there is a problem :? The trench is too large for the T-molding... :? I have to find a way to fix it anyway...
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...like I said previously, the trench for the second side is too large for the T-molding :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/woodf1.jpg)
...after trying several glues, I'm still not able to found a solution to fix strongly the T-molding in the trench, so I decide to use wood filer... again :?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/woodf2.jpg)
...and, of course, I have to use -once again- the router :oops: Not an easy task when I have to avoid damaging the finished sides :oops:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/woodf2bis.jpg)
Now, let's paint the trench :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/tmold2.jpg)
...done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/tmold3.jpg)
To fill that trench is a very hard job :evil: So, I'll try a last solution to fix the T-molding inside the trench... an hot glue gun :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/woodf3.jpg)
...closer...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/woodf4.jpg)
Holy Jesus... THIS is the issue :P
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wowwwwwwwww... you did some very good progress....
:D
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Thanks ArcadeFever :o
OK, now I can finally fix the T-molding with the hot glue gun :)
Let's start from the back of the cab :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba1.jpg)
...then the top of the cab' :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba2.jpg)
... the front, and finally the base :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba3.jpg)
and voila :P :P :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba4.jpg)
Ok, now that the major wood working is done, it's time to continue the restoration... inside the Nuno's Lair 8)
First stage : to pass this stairs :D :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba5.jpg)
Once again, thanks to "Burt" for his help to get this cab down of the 1st floor :o
This is it...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba6.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba7.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/ba8.jpg)
Stay TuNeD OF CoUrSe :P :P :P
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Time to place the marquee.
Here's the items of the day 8)
- original Space Ace marquee (not a reproduction)
- new repro marquee brackets
- new neon
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/marq1.jpg)
Now, this is the original neon :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/marq2.jpg)
... the original (defect) on top, and a brand new one, same than the original one : same size, same power, same voltage : 35w, 230V :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/marq3.jpg)
...now in location :D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/marq4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/marq5.jpg)
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Now, time to repair the bezel support. Here's the original one :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep1.jpg)
:x completely destroyed :evil: Nothing to do with that :?
I'll make a brand new one :idea: Where to find a perfect template ? :roll: :wink:
:arrow: In my Atari Dragon's Lair of course :o
Let's check for that piece inside the DL :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep2.jpg)
Ok, easy to remove :) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep3.jpg)
...as I said, I'll use it to draw the perfect 1:1 pattern :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep5.jpg)
ready to cut :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep6.jpg)
...a thing to do carefully is to cut that angle :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep7.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep8.jpg)
...easy, with the exact pattern to follow...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep9.jpg)
:arrow: The DL original and ... the home made reproduction... :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep10.jpg)
Ok, painting time :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep11.jpg)
...fresh paint ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezrep12.jpg)
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The bezel support is now totally finished :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo1.jpg)
Now, let's have a look at the coins doors. One door is missing :? The other one, on the picture, need to be paint.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo2.jpg)
Let's fix the thing. I'll put the two coins doors later, when they will be sanded & painted 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo3.jpg)
Before fixing the speakers support fully restored, I have to remove the nails, full of rust :? ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo4.jpg)
...like this :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo5.jpg)
It really helps to have a Dragon's Lair cab close to me :roll: :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo6.jpg)
Speakers support... fixed :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo7.jpg)
The twin cabs ... very soon running together :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo8.jpg)
I can now fix these original Space Ace/DL speakers, thanks Jaz' :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo9.jpg)
Here's the location...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo10.jpg)
Fixed, like it used to be more twenty years ago 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo11.jpg)
The end is near... :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo12.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/bezdo13.jpg)
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OK, it's time to work on the back of that cab'.
The upper part is in very bad shape, have a look :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback1.jpg)
Impossible to corret it :( Too much water damages :evil: :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback2.jpg)
Ok, no other choice than to reproduce it :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback3.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback6.jpg)
Hopefully, I still have some pieces of new vinyl :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback7.jpg)
Almost done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/topback8.jpg)
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Here's the back of the cabinet...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor0.jpg)
There is three parts to build/repro... I've already done the first one previously... so let's do the others : the main backdoor, and the bottom backdoor (the one for the laser disc player).
The original Dragon's Lair model on the left, and the replica :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor1.jpg)
I've no more black vinyl, so I'll paint it :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor2.jpg)
Let's check if it fits the cab' :?: :roll:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor3.jpg)
OK, let's go for the last part... the bottom backdoor :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor6.jpg)
I've found the perfet metal grille sheet
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor7.jpg)
It's strong, and easy to cut :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor8.jpg)
A view of the top & bottom back door, finished 8) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor9.jpg)
Let's put them on location :roll: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor10.jpg)
The actual status :P :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/backdoor11.jpg)
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very nice...
do you have the rest ? pcb,player ect...?
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Yeps ArcadeFever :o I've now all the stuff I need for this project :P
Ok, it's time now to work on the control panel... coz' I'm a little bored about wood working and other stuff like that :?
Here's the control panel :shock: :evil:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp1.jpg)
...as you can see, there is nothing to keep, exept the Atari button and of course the control panel itself :?
So ... I'm removing the overlay :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp2.jpg)
Let's sand it (done with a professional sanding machine ) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp3.jpg)
Looks great, but the metal is not smooth enough and there's still some glue on it, rest of the orignal overal, so once again :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp4.jpg)
Arggg :evil: I can't remove the glue, so let's use the magical product :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp6.jpg)
...and I finish the job "manually" 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp7.jpg)
It's ok now. Ready to be painted :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp8.jpg)
Primer...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp9.jpg)
Done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp10.jpg)
The other side of course :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sasp11.jpg)
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I'll use the control panel overlay -under Bluth license- from Quaterarcade.
The US control panel is not exactly the same then the EURO one. The '1 & 2 start player buttons' have not the same size, and EURO panel do not include tbe skill selection buttons.
The US repro I'll use is the US model, but I want to use the original ATARI cone buttons for player 1 & 2... so the pre-cutted holes on that repro for these buttons will be to large :?
:idea: :arrow: I'll hide the hole with the use of the EXACT overlay blue color 8)
I went to the paint shop with the CPO, and ask the seller to scan it for a perfect match of the color :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin1.jpg)
...and here's the custom blue color... done only for this project 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin2.jpg)
Ok, I can now paint the border of the control panel, and of course the area where the 'start players' buttons are located...
Oh yes, by the way I'm painting the CP border because the lenght of the CPO is not 100% the same than my CP. The CPO is a little little little bit smaller than the CP (maybe 1.5 mm). In that way, I won't see any color difference on the panel 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin3.jpg)
Yehawww :P Colors are the same 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin4.jpg)
Let's apply the overlay... in 2 steps (same method than the one I used for my Dragon's Lair cab)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin6.jpg)
...and there it is :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin7.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin8.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin9.jpg)
:P
Put a new WICO 4 ways joystick, and all the buttons, and ... there is is :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/panfin10.jpg)
:P :P :P
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One leg leveler is missing... very easy fix 8) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/foot1.jpg)
...the existing hole :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/foot2.jpg)
the new one, same than the original model :) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/foot3.jpg)
Done :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/foot4.jpg)
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It's time to work on the electronic part :)
I don't want to use a MPEG files, but I don't have a working Space Ace PCB :? So what to do :roll:
OK, I'll use a real video disc player with the original Space Ace laser disc... I'll get a small computer just to emulate the pcb, with daphne emulator :idea:
The original Space Ace laser disc, ntsc version, in mind condition :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald1.jpg)
...and a SONY LDP 1500 videodisc player :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald2.jpg)
...in that way, I'll have the authentic arcade video quality, with a more reliable hardware inside :o
Let's test the videodisc...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald3.jpg)
Ops... my old commodore monitor doesn't work in ntsc via a video composite signal... that's the reason I got a black & white picture.
Not a problem here, it's just a test 8)
Ok, let's choose a small computer... what about a Pentium 233mhz, 32MB ram, under windows 98 SE ?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald8.jpg)
...as I said previously, the computer will run daphne emulator, just to simulate the pcb, so the Pentium 233 does the job with any problem :o
Ok, the original monitor doesn't work :?
... well ...
Space Ace is one of my all time favorite games... so, it realy deserve a new monitor :roll: :wink:
Let's buy a brand new TV...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald5.jpg)
...with the exact tube size of the original tube : 19 "
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald6.jpg)
Ok, let's test that TV...
A MIRACLE .... this TV understand ntsc video composite signal :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :P :P :P :P :P :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald7.jpg)
Thanks my lord :o I won't have to use the *brand new* ntsc to RGB conveter that I already got ( :? )
Ok, back to the original *non working* monitor :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald9.jpg)
I'm removing the tube and the PCB...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald10.jpg)
... in order to keep the original metal fixation.
Now, let's start to open the *brand new TV* :roll: :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald11.jpg)
...only 5 skrews to remove and :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald12.jpg)
I'll add a piece of wood, as a TV pcb support :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald13.jpg)
It fits perfectly :P :P :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald14.jpg)
Let's test if it's still working :roll:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald15.jpg)
Great picture quality :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/sald16.jpg)
:P :P :P
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wowwwwwwwww.... some serious work here 8)
i'm waiting to see the pc and dvd connected ...
GREAT STUFF !!!!!!!!!!!!
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wowwwwwwwww.... some serious work here 8)
i'm waiting to see the pc and dvd connected ...
GREAT STUFF !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx :wink:
But I won't use a DVD, I'm using the real Space Ace video disc :)
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The monitor is ready to go inside the cab now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/monfix1.jpg)
...brand new TV, as I said ... :P :P :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/monfix3.jpg)
I'm using a metal bezel repro, bought 2 years ago :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/monfix2.jpg)
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Got the plexi glass repro :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi1.jpg)
...on location ... Wonderfull :P :P :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi2.jpg)
It is time now to fix the control panel :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi3.jpg)
Yehhaaww :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi4.jpg)
"Isn't he adorable ?" (c) :roll: :wink:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi5.jpg)
Of course, I can't resist to quickly connect the videodisc player...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi6.jpg)
...in order the display :roll:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi7.jpg)
:P :P :P
Got two repro speaker grilles, thanks a lot James :o :o :o :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi8.jpg)
Let's fix them...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi9.jpg)
Yessss :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/plexi10.jpg)
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The soundtrack of that game is one of the best ever :o
It deserves a great sound installation 8)
Let's go with a 2.1 system, brand new of course :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine1.jpg)
...of course, I will use the original Space Ace speakers :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine2.jpg)
The videodisc player, finally inside the cab' :lol:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine4.jpg)
A last test of all the setup, before fixing the stuff inside the cab...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine3.jpg)
Working without any problem :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine5.jpg)
Ok, I'm fixing all the needed parts inside the cab :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine6.jpg)
I fix a new powerfull fan...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine7.jpg)
...and I close the back of the cab' 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/engine8.jpg)
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Now, let's add the coin doors.
Sand them :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor1.jpg)
PRIMER first :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor2.jpg)
Looks better isn't it :roll:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor3.jpg)
Ouch :? The others part are in really bad shape :?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor4.jpg)
As usual, I'll sand them...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor5.jpg)
... and paint them 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor6.jpg)
Look great now :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor7.jpg)
On location :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor8.jpg)
Nice :o
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/cdoor9.jpg)
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One part is still missing, the bracket support for plexiglass, only present on EURO DL/CAB.
I've asked to someone to build one of me. He uses the one from my Dragon's Lair cab' as a template :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/supplex1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/supplex2.jpg)
Great job ( thank to my dad for the adjustment :o )
Ok, I paint it, fix it ... and ...
This projet is done ????
YYYYEEEEEEESSS.....Well amost :roll: :wink:
But for now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/done1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/done2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/done3.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/done4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/done5.jpg)
Stay Tuned for the 'The END & conclusion' messages :wink:
PLAYING TIME !!!
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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shit !!!!!!!!!!!!! that cab look amazing :shock:
great stuff....
wowwwwwwwwwwwwww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:P :P :P :P :P
beautifull
this is art !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great build, and excellent pictures. Its a great resource.
How did you connect the controls to the PC?
Did you use an Ipac or a joystick port hack?
Or was it harder by hacking an existing keyboard?
Where you did you go to get this machine, and was there any others?
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Thanks for your nice words :wink:
For the control, I use an Ipac... but you can hack a keyboard if you don't want to buy it.
Check out the road trip (on the 1st post ) to see the origin of this cab 8)
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compliments :D :D :D
good job
the adhesive atari misses only you
I am of it' creating one for poing
does it interest?
bye
igor
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the adhesive atari misses only you
I am of it' creating one for poing
does it interest?
Great Igor :)
Once you'll finish the Atari logo, the idea would be to print few of them and of course share them with the community :wink:
Go Go GO :)
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Bruno,
Thanks for looking after my Space Ace...Can I have it back now?? LOL
Just kidding, you have done a great job, and you deserve every game you get, congratulations on getting the final game for the trilogy, your the man Bruno.
-Jas
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:D :D :D :D
HEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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What a job, Bruno!! Your hands turned that old crappy cab to a factory new Space Ace! Simply stunning! :shock: :lol:
The electronical solution you used is quite similar to the one I choose for my (still WIP) DL repro cab: autostarting Daphne with real laserdisc (mine is with MPEGs).
This make me think a pair of questions for you:
You (like me) don't want a Cinematronics score leds display between your speakers grilles, or an annunciator board under the control panel (european pride!! :D ) . So, I suppose that this time you (like me) are forced to play SA using the USA ROMs, and without being able to see your score and your remaining lives (no fat blue screens :( ).
Daphne 0.99.8 will probably support Euro versions of DL and SA, but to have the overlay emulated, it will be mandatory to use MPEGs (this was the first reason for me to choose not to use real LDs) . If you are going to convert your game to the Euro version in the future, which approach are you thinking about? And how do you select the skill level this time?
Congratulations again for the great work!
Igor: era per me la scansione dell'adesivo? Grazieee!!!! Continuo a non sapere come avrei fatto senza il tuo aiuto! :wink:
A presto!
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poing
my friend I knew that it served you this adesive and I had promised you that did this :D :D
I know that a lot of time has passed but I hope that yours attended is winning :D :D
it now misses only the writing under
bye bye
igor
P.S
lo scrivo in italiano
almeno te mi ringrazi anche se e' passato del tempo ... invece di infamarmi malamente come e' diventato di moda ultimamente
ciao
igor
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Thank you for this amazing article/thread! It really inspired me and showed me how to start restoring my Euro DL cabinet. :D
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:o :o Wow !!!
You really know how to perform "surgery" on cabinets !!! :)
You are our Guru !
Forza Bruno !!! :D :D :D
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Hi there
For those who still don' t know ... I have to inform that the "newest" upgrade of the Daphne.exe allows to play Space Ace EURO !!!!!!!! ( Mpeg)
The mighty Mark Br. made this REAL !!!!!!!
Also DL "EURO" (ATARI) and "Italian"(Sidam) are completely playable !!!!!!
And if you still don't have a good "PAL" Mpeg you can "simply" convert the NTSC captures with some ... "good" video converting/editing tools !!!!!!
( if I was able to do those conversions , then ALL of you could !!!!! hehe ! )
Good playing with the FABULOUS "Euro" DL & SA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marco
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Thank you for this amazing article/thread! It really inspired me and showed me how to start restoring my Euro DL cabinet. :D
Hi Madsjm, thanks for comments :o Now I wanna see few pictures of your EURODL cab too :wink: ...and welcome to this forum my friend :o
:o :o Wow !!!
You really know how to perform "surgery" on cabinets !!! :)
You are our Guru !
Forza Bruno !!! :D :D :D
Hey Vince.... FORZAAAAA :D :wink:
...
Good playing with the FABULOUS "Euro" DL & SA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
Marco
:shock: Woow ... That is great news :o :o Thanks Marco for the update :P I'll try that ASAP :arrow:
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Back on this (I know this topic is very appreciated, thanx :wink:)
I got this cab' with me three month ago in an exhibition / Pinball Collector close to Paris [France].
If you didn't see the post I've done about that exhibition, have a look at this post (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=293.0).
A lot of pictures of this Space Ace :) It's good to see game back to life... on location ... with players on it :-* :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/chailly-ext1.jpg)
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Absolutely amazing!
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Hi there
For those who still don' t know ... I have to inform that the "newest" upgrade of the Daphne.exe allows to play Space Ace EURO !!!!!!!! ( Mpeg)
The mighty Mark Br. made this REAL !!!!!!!
Also DL "EURO" (ATARI) and "Italian"(Sidam) are completely playable !!!!!!
And if you still don't have a good "PAL" Mpeg you can "simply" convert the NTSC captures with some ... "good" video converting/editing tools !!!!!!
( if I was able to do those conversions , then ALL of you could !!!!! hehe ! )
Good playing with the FABULOUS "Euro" DL & SA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marco
Got your stuff Marco, thanks :-* :-* :-*
It's time for me to switch for the US version into ... the EURO one! Yes, the one I used to play back in the Days! :P
Hahh, it's good to finally see that menu back ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/Space_Ace_euro_1.jpg)
...and more interesting... to see the score...at last! :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/Space_Ace_euro_2.jpg)
On the first games, I'm not very good... I'll have to check if there are some timing differences between the US and Euro version?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/Space_Ace_euro_3.jpg)
Anyway...what a great job done by the Daphne team! :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/Space_Ace_euro_4.jpg)
Ok, one more thing is missing to make this cabinet complete... the Atari logo! Still no reproduction available somewhere by the way?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/Space_Ace_euro_5.jpg)
:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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I'm glad to hear that, Bruno !
And I'm also happy to see your cab running "my" Space Ace - Euro !
Notice that:
*the attract mode is 100% the same as the one played by the VP932, so withOUT the very first trumpet of the beginning "fanfare" :D !
*the left-sided 3rd scene "Dodging the beams" (the one that begins with the StarPac landing on Borf's ship in the left side of the screen) begins with a shorter Dexter's scream "Ah-Haaa! Borf is here!".
CHECK and GET those differences between the EURO and the U.S., and you'll see I'm right ;) 8) !
*The timing is slightly different from the U.S. revision A2, and it's basically due to the fact that A2 has an "incremental" difficulty in the moves timing, while the EURO revision has NOT ! It's a matter of 1/10 sec. only, but even if it really is a "small" difference Dex could easily die in this situation if the player is used with the EURO game and not with the U.S. one, so he could do a move too late ;).
Vice versa the U.S. player could die playin' on the EURO making certain move too soon... ;D
Finally, EURO Space Ace is considered less difficult than U.S. A2 !
AH !
... an Atari Logo ?
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Aus_3scYLgs/TNcWSnD5jZI/AAAAAAAACCM/jcb-XOEij9U/s512/ATARI%20DL%20logo.jpg
;) 8)
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Regarding the Atari logo, already have it (see this topic (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=167.0)) ;) ... but ... a little bit lazy to find someone who print it on the right material ::) (you know that sticker seems very heavy and much thick than normal sticker). So maybe already available in the right material for sale somewhere? ... but I don't think so :?
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Well, I cuold ask to Igor &/or Teo to know something more about the specific material.
When we know exactly what it is then we could do "something"...
;)
There's an italian photo-works site that could print almost everything onto every known material...
I use to make them print for me repro-boxes for my VCS loose carts, banners, posters and even adhesives...
Maybe they could help ;) !
And what about the other adhesive(s) attached just under the loudspeaker grill(s) ?
Teo's cab has also this/those and if I remember well they're all written in german... just like in the very first Atari cab I saw 26 years ago :) !
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You realy do a beautiful job ! ! very very good restoration ! :spaceace: