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Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« on: November 16, 2013, 01:15:59 AM »
....unbelievable what those guys manage to pull out of what is basically 1979 hardware.

The only extra's used in this demo is a second POKEY for stereo sound and extra RAM. But the work is still done by the 6502 and especially the GTIA and ANTIC video processors.......it seems that with time, the software guys simply seem able to pull more and more out of this hardware, since this demo is from last year, and it is miles better than (already awesome) demos from the late 90s....

No need for the real hardware, just watch it here:

http://youtu.be/XA_264OfBtU

Especially the zooming in and out checkerboard and the curly twisting text blocks are baffling IMHO !
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 08:15:19 AM »
Its great to see some people are still pushing old hardware to the max  in 2012!
Check out www.pouet.net for the latest demos on every platform imagenable! :spaceace:
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 02:59:50 PM »
Amazing  :o :o

Thanks for the link, I'm going to add this gem to our Demo section asap.

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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 04:34:55 PM »
I have a kit to install a 2nd POKEY on one of my A8 machines. I'm really not into any hardware upgrades like extra processing and video power because IMHO that totally changes the machine but that stereo POKEY sound is SAAAWEEEET !!!!

Atari should have done that BITD !

(Extra memory is fine too IMHO) I just don't like things like the VBXE which makes the 8 bit machine output stuff that looks like Amiga/Atari STE quality. I just miss the point of it.

It does produce sweet graphics for sure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPCetUPsgQ#t=27

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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 09:29:20 AM »
 :o :o :o :spaceace:
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 10:04:13 AM »
I love projects like this!
They never seem to fail to hypnotize me completely!  :shock:
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 10:49:44 AM »
nice 8)
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 11:16:02 AM »
I *love* the demoscene, and especially what those coders can cram out of such old machines these days.

I couldn't code a single line even if my life depended on it so I'll just stick to creating some simple music on my Amiga  :)
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2013, 12:25:47 PM »
Wow, very impressive. I wasn't aware that they still keep making those videos that much....good to see they do take care of the old 'boys' :)
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2013, 05:26:23 PM »
Quote from: McVenco on November 18, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
I *love* the demoscene, and especially what those coders can cram out of such old machines these days.

I couldn't code a single line even if my life depended on it so I'll just stick to creating some simple music on my Amiga  :)

MOVE.L <- there! Thats a single line of code :D :D
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2013, 09:33:30 PM »
Suck me sideways!

Reminds me of this:
I grew up with the PC 286, and we were totally flabbergasted back then by Second Reality made by Future Crew.

Recently they did it again! Not on a PC, but on a C64. The same demo, but rewritten for an even older machine. Amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPW40ygds4
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 08:00:02 PM »
Awesome one, some of the best SID music I've heard !

If anyone still wonders why I want to have Stereo POKEY's in one of my A8 machines (haven't decided which one yet though ! :)):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWi4lH5Xdwk


I think this about ends the discussion about SID or POKEY :)
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 08:18:54 AM »
Quote from: Level42 on November 21, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
Awesome one, some of the best SID music I've heard !

If anyone still wonders why I want to have Stereo POKEY's in one of my A8 machines (haven't decided which one yet though ! :)):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWi4lH5Xdwk


I think this about ends the discussion about SID or POKEY :)




Great stuff...but there has never been a discussion that SID is far better than Pokey ;)  ;D  :P
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 09:26:58 AM »
Oh yeah, how many arcade games do you know that use SIDS, HUH ??  ;D ;D ;D

I know SID is better on paper, but with software tricks it's possible to poor so much out of the POKEY.....
Oh and it has one more channel, it can link two channels to have 2 channels at 16 bit resolution, and, most important to me, the best bass sound. It also handles a keyboard and potmeters.....no SID can do that  ;D ;D ;D  ;D

BITD I had my 600 XL hooked up to my stereo system, and just listening to the "intro" song of DK was so awesome with the fat bassline.....

Oh and SID is about 4 years newer, which was like AGES in that point of time in hardware developments.
It was also impossible to get any sounds out of it at all using the lousy and ancient  PET basic they ditched into the C64 (just to get it done cheaply, typical Commodore....) whereas the Atari had full support of the POKEY in basic with the SOUND command....

Indeed, there is no discussion what was the better system, the other system was just more popular because of the "my neighbor has it so I want it too" factor......
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Re: Atari 8 bit demo, unbelievable....
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 10:10:13 AM »
I like SID better  ;) ;D
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