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Re: Asteroids Cocktail - Video Out
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2013, 02:08:41 PM »
Hi,

I have thought of that, but have as of yet refrained from doing so, out of fear of damaging one of them. I've tried taking a look at the input side of the DACs (pin 1-10, iirc) beforehand, but haven't really been able to tell right from wrong here. I guess I'll just buy in on a replacement if there's no other option.

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Martin

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Re: Asteroids Cocktail - Video Out
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 08:15:59 AM »
After some weeks, another (rather disappointing) update:

- Finally got my hands on a spare DAC and socketed/replaced the one for Y-Out: no changes.
- Also replaced the LS164 for Z-Out, also without success. Still dead.

So, I now do have:

- Proper voltages everywhere on the board (checked and re-checked)
- X-Out: working as expected.
- Y-Out: known good TL081, TL082, DAC - seems to be somewhat active, but far too weak (already coming from the DAC, pre-amplified)
- Z-Out: known good transistors (all three of them), LS04, LS164 - dead Z-Out (I do see activity at the base of Q7, but beyond that point, the signal seems to get lost).
- Game still does play blind.

Learnings so far:

- I need to get a proper scope. The old Velleman portable is suffering from software issues and frequently locks up during normal operation.
- My lack of knowledge hits me hard here, so I'd appreciate any further hints.

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: Asteroids Cocktail - Video Out
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 04:44:33 PM »
Finally, with a lot of help, and a second, working boardset as comparison, Asteroids is up and running again. Turns out not only the PCB was severly shot, but also the monitor needed some work (reflowing the Molex header joints, bridging one of the two ceramic resistors, so fortunately a rather easy fix).



Still a lot of stuff to cover (replace "big blue", rebuild AR, ...), but at last some visible progress :)

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Re: Asteroids Cocktail - Video Out
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 05:33:59 PM »
Replacing Big Blue is almost never neccesary.

If you plan on getting more cabs, buy an ESR meter and just check those caps instead of pointlessly replacing them with possibly inferior modern types...

Nice work by the way, would be interesting to read the PCB fixes you did.... ;D

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Re: Asteroids Cocktail - Video Out
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2013, 06:23:23 PM »
Woodgrain looks totally cool on this table, well done Martin! ;)