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baritonomarchetto

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Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« on: June 27, 2011, 07:16:09 PM »
Hi all,

i am trying to figure out how Pole Position (and Pole  Position 2) steering wheel works in MAME and in an original arcade. I know that the machine is equipped with an optical encoder (360°), not a pot, but in MAME it would be 100% compatible with a pot wheel if it wasn't for an autocenter effect that drives the machine straight even if the level of the joy is pressed. I am using MAME 0.106, maybe more recent versions are not affected by this problem.

 My questions are:

- can someone confirm this effect in real arcades? I mean, is it necessary to continuosly turn the steering wheel in order to keep the car turning?

- can someone confirm that pole position (or PP2) can run in newer versions of MAME with a joystick (pot hardware)?

thank you very much   ;D

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 08:10:09 PM »
Pole Position with a joystick : yuck  :P !

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 10:54:28 PM »
Pole Position with a joystick : yuck  :P !

no offence, but that was not the question  ;D

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 12:00:51 AM »
Etienne : hum, I spot the part 2 of the question ;D and it's no way for me  :spaceace:.

You can't have the real feeling of the machine without the right wheel, for example :

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 11:16:20 AM »
Hi.

I can only confirm, that it's necessary to continuosly turn the steering wheel in order to keep the car turning on the real machine, yes. The "autocentering" is a feature, not a bug. I can't answer the second question though. The only thing I know is, that you need an extra Mame-port to get the gear-shifting right. On the machine there is a micro switch, that is pressed for low-gear and released to switch in high gear (or vice versa ;)). In Mame you just toggel between gears with a button and (and that's most annoying) the gear-status (hi/low) is displayed all the time.

There was once a special Mame version for this problem ... I think it was ShifterMame or something ...

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 11:38:29 AM »
Hi.

I can only confirm, that it's necessary to continuosly turn the steering wheel in order to keep the car turning on the real machine, yes. The "autocentering" is a feature, not a bug.

Thanks, this is exactly the info i was digging for (i never had the fortune to play an original machine  :'()

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The only thing I know is, that you need an extra Mame-port to get the gear-shifting right. On the machine there is a micro switch, that is pressed for low-gear and released to switch in high gear (or vice versa ;)). In Mame you just toggel between gears with a button and (and that's most annoying) the gear-status (hi/low) is displayed all the time.
This is for sure: i have a MAME cab for racing games i am working on a special MAME port for  ;)... here is the link:

http://www.racermame.altervista.org

I was planning to add PP and PP2 because they are very fun racers, but i will not since i wanna add games that can be handled by pot and opti wheels  :-\

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There was once a special Mame version for this problem ... I think it was ShifterMame or something ...

ShifterMAME was abandoned at ver. 0.125. It' very slow being based on MAME versions > 0.106
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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 01:28:11 PM »
interesting project baritonomarchetto... any plans to try to support shaking engine  for outrun & powerdrift cabs?

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Re: Pole Position compatibility with pot wheels
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 06:52:30 PM »
[...]any plans to try to support shaking engine  for outrun & powerdrift cabs?

I am sorry but such a feature is not something i can implement  :'(

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