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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Re: Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: February 21, 2012, 05:39:28 PM »
@MacDLSA

Hi Marco.. Nice to finally "meet" you. We've never officially presented, but I often looked at your posts/pics/videos on the web.
Your gameroom is basically as mine would be, if I had one: A Dragon's Lair cab for Dragon's Lair (and other one-button lasergames when wanted), a MAME cab with a lot of buttons for the other arcade games, and various working retro consoles/computers ready to use. It just lacks a Space Ace cab to be absolutely complete (it was terrific to see the "Bluth's brothers" singing side by side in the arcades in the 80's.) :D.

I remember I spent a lot of time between 2002 and 2005, trying to reproduce the perfect DL cab plans. In 2005 I was running out of time, so I had to build mine. In that moment I think the plans "splitted" in two versions: the last one I gave to Igor and the one I used to build my cab. If you look closely, you can notice that the monitor on my cab is mounted a bit more "vertically", and the speakers panel is a bit more forward than on the original cab. I don't remember why I changed this two things before start building, and I'm afraid it was a mistake. Your DL cab instead was probably built using the other version of the plans (I don't know if Igor changed something on it) and it's apparently authentic to the USA one.. Very nice job!

The reason I decided to build an Atari cab was not because I was missing DL as the game itself. It was yet available in a bunch of formats, and even emulable via Daphne/laserdiscs. What I was really missing was DL as the whole thing it used to be.
That big black cab, it's artworks, it's blue score/lives screens, and it's big yellow Atari logo.
When I was 7, that sticker made me think DL was a game by Atari, and so I became sure that an Atari 2600 cartridge of DL not only had to exist, but even that it had the same audio and visuals of the arcade version (!!!).. I looked around in every shop, asking for this phantomatic cartridge for an entire summer.. Then, luckly, I surrender.. :D
This memory is enough for me to always choose the Atari sticker instead of the hardware scoreboard (even if sometimes I have to activate the on-screen scoreboard overlay..  :oops:)

But maybe I was not completely wrong about DL on Atari 2600..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwzSg92HYo&list=UUhqt2ze5DGeZRn2ruRLhoCw&index=45&feature=plcp
:D Seriously, what's this thing?


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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Re: Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: January 25, 2012, 10:50:18 PM »
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It seems like the original (american) one.

Thanks Inuyaksa! To be honest my goal was to replicate an Euro/Atari cab, but some components like euro speaker grilles and marquee overlay were never been reproduced, so I had to mount the USA grilles and to "europeize" a USA marquee, adding the Atari logos myself.. We may say it's a kind of f "hybrid" cab. But it does the job... :)

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Re: Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: January 25, 2012, 04:27:45 PM »
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Hope to read some updates on your projet soon  Shocked

Well, I'm a bit embarrassed.. More than 5 years passed from the last post, but I was VERY busy. Anyway, I want to end the story.
In this 5 years the cab was externally incomplete, but it worked quite well till the UVC board got broken.
I solved the problem by connecting the vga output of the motherboard directly to the screen and rebuilding the system from scratch to lower the video output frequency to 15,7KHz. Now the boot sequence is cleaner and every game can run at its native refresh rate, with no tearing effect at all.
Then the audio amplifier board got broken too..  :( So, the cab now works, but with no audio.
But other than boring technical stuff like this, I was waiting for some "aesthetical" enhancements to come back and post new pics..
During the last two weeks I applied the sidearts, the marquee overlay and the thee Atari logos..









I hope late is better than never.. :)
I still got to change the monitor plexi, which is brown and not black.
I'm writing a little python app too, a kind of hidden frontend to change rom version and/or dip switches settings before the game boots.

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Artwork / Re: Atari DL/SA english instructions sticker
« on: December 29, 2011, 12:11:36 PM »
Looking at old posts, it seems that Giddygoon and forcefulfil have the english sticker on their cab..
Here is the german version from Igor..  :)

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Artwork / Re: Atari DL/SA english instructions sticker
« on: December 28, 2011, 06:53:22 PM »
If someone has it

I'm quite sure someone on this forum has that sticker on their cab.. But I understand it can be hard to take a scan of it. Anyway, I have a scan of the german version, made by Igorstellar. Using it as a model, I think i could "rebuild" the english version, but I need at least some clear, readable pictures of it. After all, I built the whole cab this way.. :)

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Artwork / Atari DL/SA english instructions sticker
« on: December 28, 2011, 11:30:09 AM »
Hi guys,
after five years of inactivity, I'm finally going to complete my cab (Atari Dragon's Lair scratch built replica, see https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=84.0).
Anyway, I still need one little thing: the english instructions sticker (see the picture).
Can anyone please help me by taking a scan or some very close pictures of it?

Thank you all in advance!

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Space Ace -> THE restoration !!!
« on: November 23, 2006, 03:03:13 AM »
What a job, Bruno!! Your hands turned that old crappy cab to a factory new Space Ace! Simply stunning!  :shock:  :lol:

The electronical solution you used is quite similar to the one I choose for my (still WIP) DL repro cab: autostarting Daphne with real laserdisc (mine is with MPEGs).
This make me think a pair of questions for you:

You (like me) don't want a Cinematronics score leds display between your speakers grilles, or an annunciator board under the control panel (european pride!!  :D ) . So, I suppose that this time you (like me) are forced to play SA using the USA ROMs, and without being able to see your score and your remaining lives (no fat blue screens  :( ).
Daphne 0.99.8 will probably support Euro versions of DL and SA, but to have the overlay emulated, it will be mandatory to use MPEGs (this was the first reason for me to choose not to use real LDs) . If you are going to convert your game to the Euro version in the future, which approach are you thinking about? And how do you select the skill level this time?

Congratulations again for the great work!


Igor: era per me la scansione dell'adesivo? Grazieee!!!! Continuo a non sapere come avrei fatto senza il tuo aiuto! :wink:
A presto!

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: October 31, 2006, 05:34:12 PM »
Hi Bruno, how are you?

What an amazing job you're doing on your SA cab! I always read the updates.
My project instead is currently frozen due to finacial problems, I hope I can go on working on it as soon as possible.

My avatar is a thumbnail of the picture I'm going to print and put between the speakers of my repro cab. It's not a scan of the original one, it's a reproduction I made using Photoshop, trying to make it as close as possible to the original sticker (which unfortunatelyI don't own). So, I suppose it could be very similar, but surely not identical to the real one. Of course, I'm ready to send you the file, if you think it can be useful to you.

Bye!

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: August 15, 2006, 07:54:21 PM »
Hey Bruno!

The system works nicely. I can play DL, SA, and a bunch of MAME games (at least the one that don't need more than one button). The marquee and the stickers will come next. After a year of work on the cab, now I'm taking my summer holiday. I'll think about tha cab again when I'll be back in Rome, in september. For now only sun, sea, food, good wine and.. ;-)

See ya!

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: June 22, 2006, 03:14:15 PM »
Thank you, Bruno..

I solved the problem of  AV synch by splitting the whole DL video in smaller segments, one per scene, the powering up issue by changing the CMOS battery and I wired the panel.
Dragon's Lair is now working perfectly, and Space Ace is on the way, waiting for Euro versions to be fully emulated.
The arcade experience is terrific, I just can't stop playing now!  :twisted: I'm going to post a small videoclip of the game running as soon as possible..

Looking forward now for the marquee, the sidearts and the Atari sticker
(it could be nice to have a scan of the instructions sticker too, english version. Anyone can take it?)..

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: June 19, 2006, 07:15:14 PM »
My friends, it lives.



Still having some problems with powering up/booting the system and with AV synchronization (the whole system runs via DVD, no HD at all), and it's not playable yet because I still have to wire the control panel.
Anyway now I can see and hear DL running in a real cab, and it is amazing!

By the way, I encoded the attract mode video directly from the HD anamorphic version, at 4000 kb/s only, and the quality is simply stunning. It really seems to be a true laserdisc.

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: June 14, 2006, 01:42:52 PM »
Hi Bruno..


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Nice that you're using your OWN CPO, in order to avoid pre-cutted US version from quaterarcade (ex : arcaderennovation)


Well.. It actually is an Arcade Renovations official repro.

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Do the front is black painted ? Or did you applied vinyl ?


I choose not to use vinyl. It's expensive and it's quite a heavy and prone to error work to apply it correctly. The guy who built the cab for me, covered the external parts with a black rough plastic laminate. Something similar to the method used by arcadegames4u, and very close to the way the original cab was in my memories.

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At the end, we wanna see a picture of you... playing on your baby ( I mean your cab' of course)


Ahahaha!! :D :D :D Once the cab is 100% finished, I could  post a pic of my baby and me playing with the cab. A kind of  threesome!  :lol:

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: June 13, 2006, 10:49:03 PM »
Hi all!

Great day today: the main control panel is completed! Look..




Cool, eh?  8)

Now let's fix the panel on the cab..



And here it is: the cab with his main control panel installed..



Well, my friends. Most of the work is done. The next step is to do all the wiring and then I'll wake up the beast. Will it work at the first attemp? I don't think so.. :roll:. We'll see..

See ya!

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Hey Bruno!

You can't imagine what a great help is for me to look at the pictures you take during your trips/restorations!! Thanks to this last pic, I understood which kind of lamp i had to use for marquee lighting! Have a look..



Very close, don't you think?  :D

I can't wait to see your SA restored and working!

Forza!   :lol:

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Dragon's Lair / Space Ace / Dragon's Lair cab' replica... by Luca
« on: May 18, 2006, 04:20:43 PM »
After a long wait, I finally got the metal parts:


Here is the main panel. As you see, both the controls and the overlay fit perfectly. Those guys did a very fine work.


The alternate panel.


The plexies brackets. I know, the two brackets should be a bit different. But why? The thrid bracket is the one for the monitor plexi (not present in the Cinematronics DL).

Now, I'm going to solder the hinges and latches on the panels to fix them on the cab, then I'll apply the overlay in the way Bruno did..  :)

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