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Title: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 02, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
alright guys, before i get into details, let me point out first that this is going to be a long-time project, because there's so much to do and so many parts to design / create / buy ... but i will get there eventually - that's a promise!!!  :)

as i've already stated in another topic (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=716.0 (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=716.0)), bubble bobble is one of my most beloved games. but since there is no such thing as an original dedicated bb cab and bubble bobble was only sold as a conversion kit, I will have to create one myself. i had been on the lookout for a taito cab (the company "responsible" for that perfect game) for quite a while and finally i was lucky enough to score ...

an old taito cab with almost nothing inside - but taito it is  ;D here's the damn expensive ebay auction  8)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3493679563_82897f53dd_o.jpg)

besides the fabulous fact that i only paid 1 euro for the cab, the location of the seller was also close to perfect, because a good friend of mine lives pretty close to the game's destination. so i combined the pickup of the cab with a visit to my friend - nice roadtrip all around.

time to get started, what a horrible weather it was on that day ...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3337/3494524234_99e35ea30f.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3587/3493706563_5066e4d28d.jpg)

driving in HEAVY rain on german autobahns

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3494524798_b94760fc46.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3340/3494525104_fc0c6282da.jpg)

the seller didn't want to appear on the pictures or take photos himself, so there's no picture of the actual loading process. only two of the cab already inside my car

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3493707459_5405912a5e.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3494525328_7a6d598754.jpg)

at the end of a perfect day ...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/3494524374_140baf8581_b.jpg)

once again, after carrying it up around 1000 stairs (at least it seems that way), the cabinet now rests in one of my "service rooms"

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3493534519_dec6725c29_b.jpg)

although the marquee says "crazy kong", there's no game inside. the game that originally was inside that cab was this: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=9799 (http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=9799)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3494353466_6b4f732ce4_b.jpg)

stratovox control panel with a "not so original" joystick

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3494355434_c1880086ac_b.jpg)

a beautiful taito coin door

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3493535837_2e61ff9092_b.jpg)

one side of the cab: i love that taito logo  :-*

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3416/3494355630_b5bd8e96e5_b.jpg)

a lot of scratches on the sides  :'(

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3493536137_0bd9ac2726.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/3494355968_3312f1fedf.jpg)

no monitor inside

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3634/3493536901_ff4f66712a_b.jpg)

the only thing inside is a chaos of wires and DIRT  :shock:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3493537099_1bc5dc31e5_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3493536725_18495566e0.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3494354104_41b2c523c8.jpg)

but behold! what kind of currency is that?  ;)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3494354716_69d862da0f_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 02, 2009, 07:24:12 PM
because the cabinet is so DAMN DIRTY ("attack of the killer grease from mars"  :twisted:), i have decided to dismantle the cab completely (which makes restoring the damaged parts much easier). following are some pictures taken during deconstruction  :arrow:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3493537229_57ed4f0b56_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3416/3493535133_d183d444e0_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3493537099_1bc5dc31e5_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3577/3494353698_dcab6a312e_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3494353332_29f0bd482e_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3494354590_33fa94e430_b.jpg)

BYOTC - Build Your Own Taito Cab  ;D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3494686648_72c8f9dd1b_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3578/3494686952_d2dbb84d48_b.jpg)

next steps up on the list: clean this beast inside out, fix the damages to the wood, have the two colours (red and beige) of the cabinet scanned, create stencils for the sides (unfortunately, i haven't been able to find stencils for this type of taito cab, the only ones available are for taito cabs like this: http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=7700 (http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=&game_id=7700)) and repaint it. i'll do my very best to make it a wonderful taito cab again!!!

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: petieken on May 02, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
Good luck with this project!
Remember to provide lots of pictures of your progress ;) ;D ;D

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: flip971 on May 02, 2009, 07:54:29 PM
Hi Superlully.

Try this links:

Marquee: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120345028361
PCB + Marquee + Instruction manual: http://cgi.ebay.com/Bubble-Bobble-bootleg-Non-Jamma-Arcade-Pcb-100-Works_W0QQitemZ120414566860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c094479cc&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
Jamma Adaptator: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230338309268
For Your car ;) : http://cgi.ebay.com/BUBBLE-BOBBLE-LICENSE-PLATE-FRAME_W0QQitemZ180352265179QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item29fdd52bdb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A200
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 02, 2009, 08:05:00 PM
@flip971:

thank you for the links, i especially like the license place thingy  ;D unfortunately, this won't fit on german license plates  >:(

as for the marquee: since my cab is red, i'm going to edit the existing marquee to match my cab's colour. i will also create a control panel overlay to fit the size of my control panel and a whole new bezel.

i haven't decided on the joysticks and the buttons yet. i will be getting four wico leaf switch ball top sticks from the usa soon (taken from an old simpsons game). the colours are red, orange, green and blue. my first idea was to take the blue and the green ones because these are the colours of the dragons. however, blue and green would look horrible in combination with the red and beige of the cab (at least i think so), so right now i'm leaning towards taking the red and orange joysticks (plus red and orange buttons) to keep the cabinet in one tone. since there is no original dedicated cabinet, i thought "why not change it the way it looks best?". call it "artistic license"! what do you think?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 02, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
Well , i think this will be a nice project because it has a lot of work , and i like to see the "work in progress" pictures  8)

First of all i like wish you goodluck !

i have one question , i guess the price was 1€ / 1KG dust ? ;D

anyway, most of the time they are "dust collectors"  so this is no exeption  ;)

Im sure you will transform it into a nice looking cab !

Greetings
Etienne
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: flip971 on May 02, 2009, 08:17:10 PM
@Suprelully: The plate is the best optional for a B&B fan. Everyone need one! ;D ;D ;D ;D

For the color: an "artistic license" is the best way  ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Maverick on May 02, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
Hmm,

The game inside is from a taito game of the late '70s



The coin door is widely known to be the Space Invaders coin door - Taito version


And to be more precise of the 1st since the circle on the left is yellow

(only part II has the circle was green)



Inside of the cab there is original taito transfomer


I can see the board grip, the isolator and the fusible (should be 4 and from the type we can understand which game is it, each game and version had different)

For example Space invaders part I has two types (it depends on the serial)

2A
3A
5A
1A

or

2A
2A
3A
5A

Check the fusibile order so i can tell you from which gameboard is from

The cable are widely the space invaders one with the letter at its end to match with the female of each cable


Mav

Ps= about bubble bobble in the Us indeed the game came out with a dedicated original cab


It from licensed to romstar

http://www.webalice.it/sovox70/preferiti/bubble%20bobble.jpg
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 03, 2009, 09:23:05 AM
The game inside is from a taito game of the late '70s

The coin door is widely known to be the Space Invaders coin door - Taito version
And to be more precise of the 1st since the circle on the left is yellow
(only part II has the circle was green)

Mav, you really know your game. R - E - S -P - E - C - T !!!

Inside of the cab there is original taito transfomer
I can see the board grip, the isolator and the fusible (should be 4 and from the type we can understand which game is it, each game and version had different)
Check the fusibile order so i can tell you from which gameboard is from

on the back of the speaker board there are still the game instructions attached - and it talks about astronauts, so i guess the game that was inside really was STRATOVOX! right now the taito transformer is stored away in a box, but i will check order later. btw, do you have some kind of instructions / manual for the taito transformer?

Ps= about bubble bobble in the Us indeed the game came out with a dedicated original cab
It from licensed to romstar
http://www.webalice.it/sovox70/preferiti/bubble%20bobble.jpg

wasn't this also just a conversion kit where you attached those ugly romstar logos on the sides and the small labels JUMP and FIRE next to the buttons? anyway, i'm not a huge fun of the romstar version, that's why i'm going to create my own.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: DarthNuno on May 03, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
YEESSS!!! Superully starts s new great project  :) It's gonna be a great story to follow  ;) :-*

Last year, Screen worked on a TAITO cabinet too, but it was a Taito Cab from scratch... see here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=324.0)  :)

I've often see TAITO cabinet during few road trips or inside arcade warehouses, for example :

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/arcaderaid/ggsi5.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/arcaderaid/ggsi7.jpg)
(I'm almost sure to have better in my 'road trip/arcade warehouses' pictures archive... will check)

A nice cab to own, for sure... Personally I would go for an Action Elevator cab, but it's just because I prefer to play EA than BB  ::) :P

Regarding the original boards, check for the 'TAITO Bubble Bobble chip' on it  :arrow:

(http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1238846029888.jpg)

(http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1238846073140.jpg)

(http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1238845933766.jpg)

The picture are coming from a nice post on gamoover board (in french), see  :arrow: http://www.gamoover.net/Forums/index.php?topic=18973.0

An idea for a control panel maybe? ROMSTAR powered  ::) :P  :arrow:

(http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/3d/0c/fc22_12.JPG)

 :spaceace:
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Sonic 1992 on May 04, 2009, 07:31:10 AM
Best of luck on your project!  :D   BTW: Keep that Crazy Kong marquee!  A cool game room decoration! ;D
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 04, 2009, 08:06:03 AM
A nice cab to own, for sure... Personally I would go for an Action Elevator cab, but it's just because I prefer to play EA than BB  ::) :P

you know what, bruno, i'm thinking: while i'm having this cab disassembled, why not use the individual pieces as templates for building a couple of taito cab replicas  ;)? after all, qix, jungle king and elevator action are freaking great games  8). let's see ...
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: scr33n on May 04, 2009, 09:48:45 PM
why not use the individual pieces as templates for building a couple of taito cab replicas  ;)? after all, qix, jungle king and elevator action are freaking great games  8). let's see ...

Superully,

I answer you here ....

begins to take a look here:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=50123.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=65678.0

and some images:

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/773/21632545.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21632545.jpg)

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8460/52960666.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52960666.jpg)

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8982/dimensionim.jpg) (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dimensionim.jpg)

link to download more images .........maybe can help you .

TAITOCABxSUPERULLY.rar - 39.17MB (http://www.zshare.net/download/595988394590bbda/)

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Maverick on May 05, 2009, 02:09:54 PM
The game inside is from a taito game of the late '70s

The coin door is widely known to be the Space Invaders coin door - Taito version
And to be more precise of the 1st since the circle on the left is yellow
(only part II has the circle was green)


Mav, you really know your game. R - E - S -P - E - C - T !!!


Thank you ully,
Yeah, I know these dedicated machines extremely well since I collected them for a long time to make restorations of Space Invaders' Taito cabs


For the transformer schematic I've got the original japanese manual of Space Invaders part I & II,

I'll look asap to check about it and in case to scan and post it

Mav
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 10, 2009, 09:25:47 PM

because the cab is so dirty and smelly (nicotine sucks big time), it will get a good cleaning.

tools of the day:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3601/3519632680_7904f45d1e_b.jpg)

the dirty is starting to come off ...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3519633180_9447b26074_b.jpg)

once again, the remains of the day  :arrow:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/3518819897_3321b6905b_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 10, 2009, 09:36:37 PM

after the cleaning process, it's time to fix the damages to the wood. worst off is the bottom of the cab - broken wood everywhere!!!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3519633522_e4d4b6a63e.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/3519633368_33b0eaaabc.jpg)

but nothing that "ye good olde wood filler" can't handle  8)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3605/3519633778_38138269ca.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3518821123_c217fde675.jpg)

sanding it down ...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3416/3518821919_f8d315a017_b.jpg)

after repainting the wood, it's DONE!!! have i already used the word "thrilled" today???  ;)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3518822167_ba53311056_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3519632508_42c55afe92.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/3519635038_d6667826c0.jpg)

the next step is going to be huge: repainting the sides and the front without having taito stencils. stencils for taito cabs DO exist, but not for this style (at least i haven't been able to find them). don't know how i'm going to tackle that problem yet, because without stencils this is going to be a pain in the b***  :-X

anyone got and idea???

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Sonic 1992 on May 11, 2009, 07:46:30 AM
Many on this board have access to crazy sized printers/know people who own print shops.. Maybe they can reproduce a full sized decal?  ;)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: nicolas le jardinier on May 11, 2009, 08:34:26 AM
Hi,

maybe you can find some idea here :
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=88462&highlight=bubble+bobble (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=88462&highlight=bubble+bobble)

I like your project  :D, I had the same but  hadn't find any taito cab.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2009, 02:43:52 PM
Many on this board have access to crazy sized printers/know people who own print shops.. Maybe they can reproduce a full sized decal?  ;)

yeah, but the problem is to get the artwork scanned to make a full sized decal even possible. i don't have a mobile a3 scanner and some parts of the sideart (like the latters or the curves) are simply impossible to mask without the proper stencils. to be honest, right now i don't know how to tackle that problem ...  ???
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on July 28, 2009, 07:23:31 PM
guys, i need your input, 'cause i don't know how to continue from here ??? good that we have "mr. bubble bobble himself" muerto on board now, i'm very curious what he has to say, too.

ok, we all know that there is no real dedicated BB cabinet with sideart and stuff. there are two different marquees, but no real control panel overlay, so anyone who wants to own a dedicated BB cabinet has to be creative to create something on his own (like muerto has).

i'm still stuck with my red taito cab and my first idea was to keep the red and beige colours and edit the existing marquee to match those colours, i wanted to use red and orange joysticks for bub and bob, but i don't think that this is a good idea anymore, because simply BUB AND BOB ARE NOT RED AND ORANGE  :!:

here are the joysticks i have  :arrow:   

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3524/3765570029_0e601073eb_b.jpg)

my new idea is to stick with the original blue and green colours and use the blue and green joysticks, but what am i supposed to do with the red cabinet then? i’ve been thinking about keeping the beige colour and painting the rest of the cabinet blue – but i’m not sure whether beige and blue look good together. i guess as long as the blue is not too bright it should look pretty good, but i’d have to do some colour testing regarding this. one problem will be to mask the artwork off exactly because unfortunately there are no stencils available for this kind of taito sideart.

one more reason why i’m leaning towards switching to blue and green: i have the chance to get another one of those taito cabinets – it’s exactly the same with exactly the same colours (red and beige). in a distant future ;) i’d love to use this other cabinet to house rainbow islands (the sequel to bubble bobble) and somehow i think that red and orange for the RI cabinet would be much better than blue and green PLUS the characters in RI have red / orange hair. furthermore, no marquee exists for RI, so i could decide for myself what it should look like and adept it to fit the red colour of the cab.

your turn now: INPUT PLEASE 8)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Maverick on July 28, 2009, 07:41:40 PM
Go for the red ully,

Keep in mind
You're using the original Us DL wico joysticks

Maverick
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on July 28, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
well, 1sf of all, thx for the compliment :)

in my opinion there´s a 3rd option....
find a taito cab in green... - or make it yourself...
(http://www.localarcade.com/arcade_art/data/thumbnails/5/Taito_Sideart_Right_Side.jpg)
if youre succesful then it´s a strait homerun from there, and then you can use my custom CPO :D :D
and as you sain, bub and bob has to be green and blue.

And, with the cabinet in the same style as the orange you allready got, it would just be Perfect for Rainbow Islands!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on July 28, 2009, 07:47:21 PM
Go for the red ully,

Keep in mind
You're using the original Us DL wico joysticks

Maverick

i'm going for red, the question is: on which cab - BB or RI?  man, these are incredible problems i'm facing here  ;) ;D

btw, the joysticks came from a simpson cab!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on July 28, 2009, 07:51:28 PM
in my opinion there´s a 3rd option....
find a taito cab in green... - or make it yourself...
And, with the cabinet in the same style as the orange you allready got, it would just be Perfect for Rainbow Islands!

unfortunately, this is NOT an option, because the green taito cabinets as you've pictured it is a DIFFERENT style than the one i have. otherwise i would simply use the available stencils!

right now i'm leaning towards BB in BLUE and RI in RED. i really need to do some colour tests ...
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on July 28, 2009, 07:53:46 PM
I've often see TAITO cabinet during few road trips or inside arcade warehouses, for example :

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/arcaderaid/ggsi5.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/arcaderaid/ggsi7.jpg)

well, here's one in turquoise, but i don't like that colour!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on July 28, 2009, 08:13:06 PM
you can tape all the orange over and sparypaint it with that off-white color, and reverse the prosess...

did a little somthing so you could see the result... :

(http://home19.inet.tele.dk/tld-data/taitoblue.jpg)

(http://home19.inet.tele.dk/tld-data/taitogreen.jpg)

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on July 28, 2009, 08:23:30 PM
did a little somthing so you could see the result... :

just checked my cabinet in the other room - still red  ;) why can't it be that easy? :P

wow, thx for the effort. i think both look great, although i have to admit the green one even looks a bit better than the blue, but it wouldn't fit the marquee and the cpo then, would it? i've already bought special masking tape to create my own stencils, but this is going to be one hell of a job. all of that for a game of two dragons blowing bubbles  :)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on July 28, 2009, 08:32:07 PM
the custom made CPO is 600mm wide and 363mm high...
dont know what the CP of the TAITO cab is, but that would be an easy fix....
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on July 28, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
little off topic..

do anyone know if the taito cab bruno is holding on to is for sale?
would make a nice Arkanoid!

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/arcaderaid/ggsi7.jpg)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on November 14, 2009, 09:19:03 PM
Finally, i got a coin door, and got it mounted tonight..., that sure mad the cab more "arcade like"

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/bbcd1.jpg)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/bbcd2.jpg)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/bbcd3.jpg)

Now, the only thing missing is the speaker (above the monitor)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: vib_ribbon on November 14, 2009, 09:46:13 PM
what's the name of that cutter you used, muerto?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: DarthNuno on November 14, 2009, 09:48:54 PM
Lovely  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on November 14, 2009, 10:38:17 PM
The tool is called a FEIN Cutter, and you can get many diffrent cutter blades (for metal/wood/plastic/diamonds etc...)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/fein1.jpg)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/fein2.jpg)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/fein3.jpg)

and my dogs  :D

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/arc/hunde.jpg)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on November 15, 2009, 05:49:42 PM

and my dogs  :D

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee8/Cline5822/Funny%20Animals/HairlessRatDogs.jpg)

Corrected.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on November 15, 2009, 06:18:22 PM
hehe, allergic to dogs andré?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on November 15, 2009, 08:18:58 PM
cool dogs. I like the droopy eyes

and BTW, your sodacan-cooler is awesome. I got to me one too! Really nice to stash your Cola-cans in such a device, or whatever I should call it. :ghost: :ghost:
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on November 15, 2009, 08:47:01 PM
hehe, allergic to dogs andré?
Not really. Just thought that with that Fein cutter you would get a naked dog so I did some googling :)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on November 15, 2009, 09:13:08 PM
@Regan
yeah, i looove them! - always in a good mood!, and of course they keep the baddys out of the gameroom  ;)

@André
Geeeh! - i completly missed your joke!!  :D :D :D, well, in the summer time i shave them so they looks like lions..  8)
though, cant find any pictures of thet.... so instead you get these...

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/dogs2.jpg)

(http://muerto.superfreehost.org/dogs3.jpg)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on November 15, 2009, 11:11:03 PM
They look very sweet. Way to sweet to guard your gameroom ;) :D
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 15, 2011, 05:21:52 PM

after taking a break from this project for 1 1/2 years (man, time flies!), i've decided revisit to this project!

my goal is to have it up and running by the end of the year (at the latest).

my dream is to have it up and running side by side with its sequel rainbow islands by the end of the year.

let's see what it's going to be: goal, dream or epic fail :arrow:

(http://files.sharenator.com/epic_fail_Epic_Fails-s420x420-48808-580.jpg)

anyway, let's get this baby back on the road by pulling out my original bubble bobble pcb which i bought on ebay untested quite a while ago. here's the video board :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5356842745_64106eb774_b_d.jpg)

and here's the cpu pc board :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5356843775_0f3ac84275_b_d.jpg)

some details

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5250/5357457926_d3a8695a60_b_d.jpg)

the famous "bubble bobble chip" as a proof of authenticity

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5357457564_86d5fd9fed_b_d.jpg)

unfortunately, someone soldered the wires directly to the card edge instead of using a proper connector >:(

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/5356843481_4641d03b98_b_d.jpg)

what a mess! :shock: :shock: :shock:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5357457698_a3696945bb_b_d.jpg)

@our soldering experts: after unsoldering the wires, what is the best method of getting the card edge clean and usable again? which tools / materials do i need / have to use in order to get it nice and shiny again?

@muerto: your pics ain't working anymore - is that an easy fix?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 15, 2011, 05:54:21 PM
since you dont have a desolder vaccuum iron;
Start by just removing the wire pieces with your solder iron, then use wick to remove as much leftover tin as possible
if nessesary, heat it up, then use a moisty cloth and wipe the remains off while its hot

but i think after good "wicking" you shoud get the connectors on..
i did it with the desolder iron on the CK that you brought to holland for me, and its a tight fit, but that increases the conductivety  8)

or you can try to use compressed air, first heat it, add fresh solder and "blow" away everything
(thats what i have done with connectors that are fully tinned...)
but i dont thing that method is sufficient for this job..

wach out that you dont make it too hot btw, the tracks can come loose...

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2054.msg25251#msg25251 (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2054.msg25251#msg25251)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 15, 2011, 06:47:02 PM
thx etienne for the explanation, so i don't need to use special stuff like vinegar or whatever?

since you dont have a desolder vaccuum iron;

i'm currently looking into buying one, because it seems as if soldering is the way to go on many different occassions!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 15, 2011, 06:58:12 PM
it is a very handy tool
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 15, 2011, 07:02:31 PM
i'm thinking of getting this one (http://cgi.ebay.de/Weller-VP-801-EC-Profi-Entloetstation-Kolben-Top-/250737353233)!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 15, 2011, 07:22:26 PM
Looks good!
Weller is a good brand, so you cannot miss there i think
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Dazza on January 16, 2011, 01:13:30 PM
For getting it nice and clean.

1. Use a soldering iron and heat up the attached wires, remove them when the solder starts to flow.
2. Flow some fresh solder over the old stuff and suck it up with a solder pump, desoldering station or wick.
3. There will more than likely be quite a bit of flux residue left so use some flux remover on a lint free cloth. Something like this:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/pcb-cleaner-27521?tabid=1&criteria=usb&c=so&u=strat15 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/pcb-cleaner-27521?tabid=1&criteria=usb&c=so&u=strat15)
4. That will probably still leave some sticky residue so finally clean it with some isopropyl alcohol, again with a lint free cloth. Something like this:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/isopropyl-alcohol-28994?ordercode=RE79L (http://www.maplin.co.uk/isopropyl-alcohol-28994?ordercode=RE79L)

After that it should be as clean as a whistle!

I must admit until I got a proper desoldering station, removing and cleaning solder was a pain. I hate those bloody pumps, they are ok to start with but get worse and worse over time, getting clogged up.

I got this one, it is "relatively" cheap compared with other models. I got it from Farnell but there link doesn't appear to be working atm:
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=D00672+DESOLDERING+STATION&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=4135953085675190587&ei=NOAyTYWAMdO6jAeT_K28Cw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CG0Q8wIwCg# (http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=D00672+DESOLDERING+STATION&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=4135953085675190587&ei=NOAyTYWAMdO6jAeT_K28Cw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CG0Q8wIwCg#)

Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 18, 2011, 07:09:31 PM
thx for the additional information, dazza, it sure helped a lot :-*! i've ordered a couple of sprays in the meantime and once they arrive (along with a desoldering station) i can finish what i started today!

the card edge wires came off easily, but as you can see there is still a lot of flux and solder on it (the soldering job wasn't the best to begin with). i only heated up the older solder to get the wires off and did no additional cleaning because i didn't want to damage anything, i'm waiting for the rest of the stuff to arrive.

much worse was the connector on the left, because the wires had been wrapped around the pins multiple times and huge solder chunks had been added. it took me quite a while to get everything off, but i think it cleaned up ok, but i'll have to re-work it as well!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5241/5367143295_603865ffb8_b_d.jpg)

here's what i removed from the connectors :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5367143061_89fd8d240e_b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 18, 2011, 07:17:20 PM

now to something completely different: finally sideart stencils are available from gamestencils.com for this type of taito cab and i've already ordered one full set (yes, another taito stencil job :P). however, i'm not quite sure yet which color combo to use. i want to stick to the original beige tone, but change the other color from red to either blue or green, because the two dinosaurs (bub & bob) are blue and green and the joysticks / buttons i'm going to use are blue and green as well. i have a strong tendency already (which i'll not reveal yet), but since michael's edited pictures are no longer available and we have a lot of new members since this was posted the last time, i did a little photoshopping (well, it was corel, but "coreling" sounds just strange ;)) and came up with two different version.

here's the green one :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5367752340_475d1600c4_b_d.jpg)

and here's the blue one :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5367141345_386469465a_b_d.jpg)

so how would you guys paint it? let me know what your choice would be and i'll pick the exact opposite ;) thx for your input!!!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: gyruss on January 18, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
They could both work, but i would go with the blue one, because it would match better with the marque.

Again, i love those classic taito cab's, don't really know why, but they are something special.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: funkycochise on January 18, 2011, 07:31:35 PM
They could both work, but i would go with the blue one, because it would match better with the marque.

Again, i love those classic taito cab's, don't really know why, but they are something special.

the big taito title ?
i like them too, despite they are generic.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: gyruss on January 18, 2011, 07:53:02 PM
Yes, i like that too! And maybe the shape of the cab, color use and history behind the brand.  :D
Hopefully, i get lucky and will own one of these soon. I would love to convert it to a qix, bubble bobble or elevator action.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 18, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
I think the blue, already your jungle king is green  ;)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Belike on January 18, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
Blue!!! :!:
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: WEARESAVIORS on January 18, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
Blue is the best color  ;D
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: scr33n on January 18, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
so how would you guys paint it? let me know what your choice would be and i'll pick the exact opposite ;) thx for your input!!!

ok .... green  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on January 19, 2011, 06:44:29 PM
I vote for Red !
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 19, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
I vote for Red !

;D andré, that's not how it works, you're not allowed to make any suggestions :P

but because you've brought this up: i'm going to use either RED / BEIGE or ORANGE / BEIGE for the rainbow islands cab which i'm planning on putting next to the bubble bobble. you may cast your vote then, andré ;)

as for bubble bobble: since you guys voted unanimously for blue (and because this matches my pick 100%), i'll definitely go with blue. thx for your input!!!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on September 23, 2011, 12:01:46 PM
Any news on this ?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on September 23, 2011, 01:48:42 PM
i'm waiting for the stencils from brian, those taito v1.0 cabs need different stencils (crazy climber style) and brian had to buy a special vinyl to be able to cut them. brian is having some personal stuff to go through at the moment, so this might still take a while. i'm afraid my plan to have this up and running by the end of the year is not going to work ...
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Lee on September 25, 2011, 01:33:15 AM
Ahhhhh... Bubble Bobble my favorite game. I got like almost 3000000 points playing the dos cdrom version in dosbox. Keep up the work Superully!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 04, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
man, time flies!!! 2 1/2 years after my last post on this thread, i've decided to re-start my bubble bobble project. hopefully, i'll be able to finish it this time. i'm more than determined!!!

first order of business: get out all the individual pieces from my storage room. everything's a little bit dusty, but still in the state i left it.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7370/12309215344_d42597291a_b_d.jpg)

i've done a little bit of research and thinking in the meantime, especially when it comes to the controls and since bubble bobble is a taito game and i want to put it in a classic taito cab, it would only be fitting to use taito joysticks as well. unfortunately, most of the games that taito produced use 4- or 8-way joysticks and i don't want to play a game designed for a 2-way stick with a controller that can also be pushed up and down (accidentally). i though i had found a solution to my problem, because a few o the older taito games do use a 2-way joystick, games like stratovox and polaris. here's what such a joystick looks like :arrow:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7388/12320238764_dbf40abd50_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2852/12319946373_7f1b02e920_b_d.jpg)

i already have one of those sticks, but i need a second one because bubble bobble is a two player game. although chances are slim, i thought i could give it a try nevertheless, so if anyone from this forum has either a joystick like that or a control panel with such a stick lying around, i'd gladly take it out of your hands. so please feel free to contact me  :-*
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Belike on February 04, 2014, 09:19:21 PM
Can't see the pic. ???
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 04, 2014, 10:12:48 PM
Can't see the pic. ???

All three of them or just the first one?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on February 04, 2014, 11:09:28 PM
All pics works here.. Great to se youre going back to this one! - then Andre have something to read again! ;) :D
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on February 05, 2014, 12:06:27 AM
Very excited to see what you do with this Ully :)
It always seems very strange that a Taito never made a dedicated cabinet for this game!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 05, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
Can't see the pic. ???

All three of them or just the first one?

the last 2 dont work here  ???
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: AusWoody on February 05, 2014, 08:24:21 AM
Pictures work for me.

It will be had to find a twin for that joystick I think. How about a more readily available 4 or 8 way and make your own restrictor plate similar to the one one your 2 way stick?  This way you will have 2 the same?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on February 05, 2014, 08:27:35 AM
Ully, if you cannot find one, I think I might be able ro reproduce the joystick. We have a complete Stratovox cab (one of my upcoming projecst) which should hold such a joystick.
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 05, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
Ully, if you cannot find one, I think I might be able ro reproduce the joystick. We have a complete Stratovox cab (one of my upcoming projecst) which should hold such a joystick.

You want to reproduce the entire stick? If you need parts for your stratovox project, just let me know. I have a second one in storage!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 05, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
the last 2 dont work here  ???

problem should be fixed now!
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 05, 2014, 12:18:34 PM
It will be had to find a twin for that joystick I think. How about a more readily available 4 or 8 way and make your own restrictor plate similar to the one one your 2 way stick?  This way you will have 2 the same?

sure i could use another stick, but i'd love to use a taito joystick which was intended to be moved only in two directions. i'm not giving up yet  8)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on February 05, 2014, 03:22:53 PM
The only 'problem' could be the actuator, that moves the rolls of the microswitches. It has a cut out shape and bent sides....not sure if the shop I know can do that. We might end up cutting a solid piece of alu with that shape :)

Ully, could you please measure the diameter of the white balltop? Is it screwed to the shaft or glued?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: anunaki on February 05, 2014, 03:25:01 PM
great game, I recently got it myself, it's in my NAC

I really want to get myself a Taito cab too, but I'll make a Elevator action out of it
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Tyrem on February 05, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
great game, I recently got it myself, it's in my NAC

I really want to get myself a Taito cab too, but I'll make a Elevator action out of it

Yeah... I am still waiting for my first Taito. I think Qix was a good choice. :)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 05, 2014, 07:34:02 PM
Ully, could you please measure the diameter of the white balltop? Is it screwed to the shaft or glued?

according to the manual, it's screwed to the shaft, but i haven't been able to get it off and i didn't want to use extreme force. so your joystick is missing the ball top?
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on February 06, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
Ully, could you please measure the diameter of the white balltop? Is it screwed to the shaft or glued?

according to the manual, it's screwed to the shaft, but i haven't been able to get it off and i didn't want to use extreme force. so your joystick is missing the ball top?

No, it's there, it's red, and I think it's smaller than yours ;)

Just wanted to see if this size is available in the common sources :)

The repro will take some time, so get back to the other parts until it's done ;)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 12, 2014, 06:23:53 PM
this time, i wanted to make sure the electronics are working before starting with the woodwork stuff. therefore, i threw my bubble bobble pcb (bought untested) on the test bench, hooked it up to a bubble bobble jamma adapter and flicked the switch. unfortunately, i only got an i/o error on the screen. after some digging on the klov forum, i found that such an error might be related to a broken hybrid module? A WHAT? ???

i had never heard of something like that before, so in case you haven't either, here it is in the middle of the picture, it's that "chocolate thing"!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5484/12483125294_7f6c2a2ddc_b_d.jpg)

upon closer inspection, you can spot a crack running through the right side of the hybrid module! >:( could that be it? or is the crack only superficial?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7313/12482630595_128dfe817c_b.jpg)

so let's desolder that b**** :twisted:! as i suspected, it immediately cracks apart

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/12482627455_c4668c24f9_b_d.jpg)

time for a replacement chocolate bar :P

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/12482625495_42d8553916_b_d.jpg)

old module removed, new one in place

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/12482633415_1eedd6024a_b_d.jpg)

gnocchi approved!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2819/12482636345_5c1cf9e54d_b_d.jpg)

let's give this a try by hooking it up to the jamma adapter on my workbench

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7370/12482623575_502ca5a303_b_d.jpg)

anxiously, i turn on the power!!!

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/12482639725_a8e6661197_b_d.jpg)

can you hear my "scream of joy"? :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/12483122794_3756b33fbc_b.jpg)

superully's made himself a working bubble bobble board :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7422/12483120264_08b4a56bc4_b.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 12, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
That is so cool !   (and also your testbench ! )

congrats man !  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on February 12, 2014, 09:30:03 PM
Wauw!,, that test bench is killer!!!! Congrats on the working BB! Where did you get the chocolate thingy?? From a BB scrap board??
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 12, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
Wauw!,, that test bench is killer!!!!

:twisted: yeah, it is indeed! my plan is to install a small vector monitor as well in the future - whenever that might be :D

Where did you get the chocolate thingy?? From a BB scrap board??

got it from a KLOV guy. but i need a second board for the LOST CAVE roms. there was one for sale on KLOV just recently, but i spotted it too late. there will be another chance for sure later 8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Laszo on February 13, 2014, 12:16:39 AM
Well done. Does anyone know where i can find such a Hera setup..... Would be great for my cave.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Q*ris on February 13, 2014, 07:22:57 AM
Impressive Star Trek test bench!
Good job  :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on February 13, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
Congrats, Ully!!

btw...your cat almost looks like ours :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: mchay on February 13, 2014, 08:27:40 AM
Probably wouldn't place the PCBs on top of the non-antistatic bubblewrap.

Nice job fixing it though ;-)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 13, 2014, 08:37:14 AM
Does anyone know where i can find such a Hera setup..... Would be great for my cave.

willl be close to impossible. hera stuff shows up from time to time, but the test bench setup is custom made. i know that arcadiabay has an even better one, but of course they are not selling it. mine came from the infamous "world of arcade"

Probably wouldn't place the PCBs on top of the non-antistatic bubblewrap.

thx, but has anyone ever really heard of pcbs being damaged by bubblewrap? i know the warnings, but have yet to experience a pcb to break down because of it. but please, correct me if i'm wrong.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: mchay on February 13, 2014, 08:45:48 AM

Probably wouldn't place the PCBs on top of the non-antistatic bubblewrap.

thx, but has anyone ever really heard of pcbs being damaged by bubblewrap? i know the warnings, but have yet to experience a pcb to break down because of it. but please, correct me if i'm wrong.

There probably aren't many people who had boards die the second they placed the board on it, but there could go minuttes, hours, days, weeks (...) before something related to that would happen - if at all.

I just find that working with boards on wood or cardboard is a good way to work with PCBs, it being arcade or other hardware as exposed as this.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 13, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
there exist special ESD safe bubblewrap, standard bubblewrap can generate static electricity and possibly damage stuff.

but like you said, I have never experienced something bad happening, but that does not mean that its safe to do so.

I have replaced manytimes RAM modules in pc's without a wriststrap and I never have any problems, but I have seen a collegue of mine having issues.

so to be sure, don't use standard bubble wrap, but like Mchay says, place it on a piece of cardboard or wood.

Or just screw in those pcb feet so its only on those feet and not touching anything

There exist also ESD safe mats, which I think I still have one in my attic somewhere.

you can connect that to ground and that's the best workspace I guess

(http://www.mobilecellphonerepairing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/antistatic-mat.jpg)

Now go build that ESD safe workbench Ully ;)

http://www.e-gizmo.com/ARTICLES/ESD/ESD5.HTM

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 13, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
once again, thx for the input, perhaps i should stop using that stuff eventually. all my pcbs are in bubble wrap, never got around being expensive anti-static bags!

There exist also ESD safe mats, which I think I still have one in my attic somewhere.

i've got the feeling that you are going to dig it out ;D 8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 13, 2014, 09:02:26 AM
when I clean out my attic, I hope to find it, but I am not sure if I still got it

anyway, being in the IT business, I have manytime that I receive spare / replacement parts for servers and pc's

all those parts come in these kind of bags, and there was a time I collected all of those, and they are also in some box in the attic, the question is where, I really need to clean out there !  :oops:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on February 13, 2014, 09:05:20 AM
Very lucky indeed you had a spare chip! Last time I turned my board on it just kept resetting and I got really worried it was faulty, luckily it was just a little too high on the +5v line so was fine, but it's the one pcb in my collection I really worry will break.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 13, 2014, 09:20:40 AM
just checked: those mats don't cost a hell of a lot, i think i'm going to get one!!!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 13, 2014, 10:05:22 AM
I got also a simular plug as this for grounding :

(http://nl.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/42259181.jpg)

you can plug that right into your workbench outlet, but ofcourse the workbench need to be connected to a grounded outlet in your room.

I think there is also a connector on the back of your soldering station that you can connect to that, so your solder station is also ESD safe then  ;)

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: gyruss on February 13, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
nice to follow another project of yours, and what a game, it's so iconic!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Belike on February 13, 2014, 11:27:53 AM
Nice test bench you have there. ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 13, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Nice test bench you have there. ;)

thx, but this one's even more impressive :arrow:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Hera-Laborsystem-Prueftisch-Prueftafel-Labormesstisch-Gross-2-80m-x-2-80m-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/2TIAAOxy3zNSmd24/$_57.JPG)

almost looks like the control room of an old russian nuclear power plant!!!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on February 13, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
Nice test bench you have there. ;)

thx, but this one's even more impressive :arrow:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Hera-Laborsystem-Prueftisch-Prueftafel-Labormesstisch-Gross-2-80m-x-2-80m-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/2TIAAOxy3zNSmd24/$_57.JPG)

almost looks like the control room of an old russian nuclear power plant!!!

Im sure it is - the control room from a Russian power plant!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on February 14, 2014, 07:57:54 AM
Yes, I think I've seen such a thing in DayZ  ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cudabee on February 17, 2014, 10:31:33 PM
I have one of those too.
It's not russian but german.


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Post by: level42 on February 17, 2014, 10:41:56 PM
I learned from Andreas that the old TTL games are not that sensitive to electrostatics. CMOS however is a different thing.
Most games before 1984/85 are TTL only.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 17, 2014, 11:05:23 PM
I have one of those too.
It's not russian but german.

nice setup you have there!!! any chance of a few more detailed pictures of what you've got?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on February 18, 2014, 03:04:51 PM

time to get down and dirty

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3684/12612593274_605287703c_b_d.jpg)

because the cabinet will be repainted entirely with a new color scheme (and because there are deep scratches in the artwork that need to be filled), the old stuff needs to go :twisted:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/12612591444_1d48ab572a_b_d.jpg)

no problem at all getting it off!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5485/12612589164_340d610785_b_d.jpg)

here are the stencils that i'll be using. they were cut by brian@gamestencils.com who had to buy extra large stencil sheets because those old-style taito cabs are larger than the later versions!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/12613025364_9e61170315_b_d.jpg)

but before i start, let me do a quick test run with the selected colors and some leftover stencils from an older project of mine: blue base coat and stencils applied :arrow:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5535/12612266773_1772053191_b_d.jpg)

a few coats of white spray paint later

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3750/12612265183_c6763780c9_b_d.jpg)

the stencils come off easily without any problems this time around and it looks damn good. those tiny pieces of white that you can see around some of the white parts can be removed with a pair of tweezers, i was just to lazy to do it for the entire paint job, i only did it for the piece in the lower left corner and as you can see, it looks totally clean and without any rugged edges / paint runs. i guess i can order the paint now ...

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2859/12612263733_d97ae92a79_b_d.jpg)
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Post by: Muerto on February 18, 2014, 03:58:19 PM
Uuuh! - looking forward to se the assembled cab in this color!!! :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Post by: Superully on February 18, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Uuuh! - lookingforward to se the assembled cab in this color!!! :spaceace: :spaceace:

i hope it's going to look great. i wanted to use the original beige color in combination with the blue first as you can see on this mockup :arrow:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5367141345_386469465a_b_d.jpg)

but since i'll be using white t-molding and there'll be white in the bezel, control panel and marquee artwork as well i thought it would be better to go with white instead of beige!
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Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 18, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
That is going to look AWESOME !!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Dazza on February 20, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
Ahh your BB board suffered the same "final" problem mine did.

That brown chocolate chip is a PC030CM sip. They are pretty difficult to get hold of.

You can steal one from a donor board. Arkanoid is the easiest to find (where mine came from), but also used on L.S.A. Squad and Tokio/ Scramble Formation.

Apparently the following can also be done to circumvent the chip:

The I/O error message will be displayed if either PC030 pin 1 or 3, connected to COINA / COINB input lines in the MCU, is logic high when the board powers up.

These input lines should be both kept at low level, unless a coin switch is pressed.

I used MAME to confirm that a workaround to fix a bad PC030 is to remove it from the board and add the following jumpers:

pin 3 <-> pin 17
pin 1 <-> pin 19

Also, you need to replace both coin switches with a NC type (normally closed), connecting the JAMMA coin signals to ground.

Pressing a coin switch will break the connection to ground, allowing the board pull-up resistor connected to PC030 pin 1 / 3 to raise the COINA / COINB input level.


Never known of anyone who has tried the fix but would be really good to know if it actually works.

Gratz on the restoration, looking good!
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Post by: Superully on March 01, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
let's start with the real paint job! for that, i've set up a temporary spraying booth in my bathroom! it'll be a mess eventually, but much easier to clean than someplace else!

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3818/12851187745_75b0715b69_b.jpg)

after base-painting the necessary pieces in blue, it's time for a small stencil job

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3713/12851254523_83abd2cae5_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3781/12851184605_799381a815_b_d.jpg)

came out fine - i really like the color combo :-*

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7457/12851250643_61b2833da0_b_d.jpg)

up next: the two large side pieces! :-\
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 01, 2014, 12:06:35 PM

the doorbell has just rung and i've been delivered a huuuge package :arrow:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7342/12852021835_bf127db6de_b_d.jpg)

some strange symbols on the label and the word JAPAN, let's examine that a little bit closer

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/12852427454_a3153bb304_b_d.jpg)

hehe, i like the "i checked that contents above are not dangerous good" section! but i've got no time to waste, i wanna see what's inside

first up, a taito BUBBLE SYMPHONY cartridge on top of an F3 motherboard

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3789/12852081293_af0f1b6fb6_b_d.jpg)

the game is also known as Bubble Bobble II and - you might have guessed it - the sequel to Bubble Bobble :)

(http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/7/b/1/gfs_36892_1_1.jpg) (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/reviews/saturn/Bubbles.jpg) (http://)

up next in the box is BUBBLE MEMORIES ...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7420/12852013125_84d26f1373_b_d.jpg)

... aka The Story of Bubble Bobble III - the sequel to Bubble Memories

(http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/110/1104009202.jpg) (http://s.uvlist.net/l/y2006/04/17429.jpg)

and because the games were pretty cheap, i decided to get another one :arrow:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/12852420144_ba5b82a0f2_b_d.jpg)

Elevator Action Returns is the sequel to the Taito classic Elevator Action and for those games I HAVE A CUNNING PLAN 8)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SswaHmf2Ot0/Tro2LWWN7cI/AAAAAAAAACA/Zerus1WVYWs/s1600/320x232+Elevator+Action+Returns.jpg)

thx a lot to bela for pointing out that great dude in japan who's selling some really cool stuff (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=5173.0). communication was extremely friendly, shipping fast and cheap and the best of all: NO CUSTOMS! i wonder why packages like that from the east are slipping through the network while every single package from the west goes through customs. man, i wished getting parts from the usa would be as easy as well!!!

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Post by: Superully on March 01, 2014, 02:50:40 PM
(http://radicaltrendsetters.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/radical-trendsetters-10000-views.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 01, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Love the blue and white combination Ully, Looks super tight !  :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Post by: cebulba on March 01, 2014, 08:44:09 PM


my dream is to have it up and running side by side with its sequel rainbow islands by the end of the year.



You missed PARAOL STARS - now get a third cab :)
Title: Re: Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 01, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
You missed PARAOL STARS - now get a third cab :)

you ain't seen nothing yet ... ;D 8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 02, 2014, 11:06:56 AM
Lol! ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Belike on March 02, 2014, 01:44:38 PM
Looks nice, the color matches perfect. ;)
Never played BB on an original pcb or cab, you made me curious. :D
Your theory about customs is 100% true, never paid a cent for "eastern" packages.
(For most of you I am the eastern). ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 02, 2014, 05:23:23 PM
Have you seen this? (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=303032) IMO theres way to much going on, on that cab.
Though I made my BB out of a Moon Patrol cab (home made) TAITO _IS_ the way to go!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 02, 2014, 07:06:26 PM
Have you seen this? (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=303032) IMO theres way to much going on, on that cab.

yeah, already spotted that, but let's post a picture here:

(http://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170533&d=1392928479)

i agree with you michael, the artwork is too busy for me, my eyes can't relax when looking at that thing if you know what i mean. it does look great somehow, just not the way i would have done it.

kinda reminds me of this one :arrow:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100541.0;attach=142453;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100541.0;attach=142447;image)

also a great unique design, but once again too busy for my taste!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 02, 2014, 10:48:30 PM
That guy was influenced by my cab but decided to go for full side art and front art, I also find it's a bit too much for my taste.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on March 03, 2014, 12:11:03 AM
I hear Bobcat say: "How much bubbles is too much ?"  ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 03, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
HOLY-GUACAMOLE!!!!!Thats a pricy motherfucker!!!!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/riprice.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Laszo on March 03, 2014, 08:58:18 PM
I really need to check out all these boxes with old pcb's I still have somewhere  :shock:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 03, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
$610?!! I still wouldn't sell mine for that  ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 03, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
it's gonna be really tough to find a RI pcb. i almost had one, but the owner had sold it for 100 pounds just a few days earlier  :'(
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 03, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
$610?!! I still wouldn't sell mine for that  ;D

Me 2!!  ;D ;D

it's gonna be really tough to find a RI pcb. i almost had one, but the owner had sold it for 100 pounds just a few days earlier  :'(

Nooo, that sugs - Im sure some will pop up, but the prices has skyrocketet lately!!!! I think thats one of the "newer" more expensive games out there...  :o
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 03, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
on a side note:
I met Bob Wakelin a few times in the UK. He worked for OCEAN software company and has done quite a lot artwork for their games (e.g. Cover game boxes).
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bob-Wakelin-Games-Artwork/107350556003354 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bob-Wakelin-Games-Artwork/107350556003354)

I recently got a DIN A1 poster signed with the Rainbow Island artwork while meeting him again at revivalretroevent 2013.

Just drop him an e-mail and he will send one over to you. Or buy them at the Attic Bug.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df)
Drop a note for a signature and they will arrange it :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 03, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
Just drop him an e-mail and he will send one over to you. Or buy them at the Attic Bug.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df)
Drop a note for a signature and they will arrange it :)

Wow! that is quite cool!! - a shame it´s "only" an A3 print.... would rather have it in A1!!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 03, 2014, 09:52:35 PM
Just drop him an e-mail and he will send one over to you. Or buy them at the Attic Bug.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Islands-A3-Glossy-Print-Bob-Wakelin-Artwork-NEW-ZX-Spectrum-C64-/400362512863?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item5d377721df)
Drop a note for a signature and they will arrange it :)

Wow! that is quite cool!! - a shame it´s "only" an A3 print.... would rather have it in A1!!

Drop them an e-mail for larger sizes. no problem at all.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 07, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
it took quite a while to fill all the holes, to repair the broken edges and to give all the parts a nice interior fresh coat of black paint, but now it's finally time to start with the outside pieces! first up, white as a base color :arrow:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7431/12992910155_34264b5487_b_d.jpg)

four coats later - with some smooth sanding in between - i have a nice (almost even) base of white

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3303/12992908115_5f651f4550_b_d.jpg)

one thing i often lack is patience, but that's what you need when applying stencils. you don't want to put them on too early, otherwise you would take off the base coat again. fortunately, i have a few other projects to work on, so after giving the paint about a week to dry completely, i can now safely slap on the stencils - hopefully ...  :-\

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2716/12993030683_659fc77f43_b_d.jpg)

not an easy task, especially when you're doing it alone: rolling on those gigantic classic taito stencils!

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2668/12993028493_fc81b82eb9_b_d.jpg)

once done, you can remove the protective top layer

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7334/12993026883_e453da9dd6_b_d.jpg)

with all the edges masked off, i will start with the blue paint job - tomorrow ...  :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/12993296984_280bdb3c01_b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 08, 2014, 04:32:55 PM

blue blue blue - three rolled layers later :arrow:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3327/13010145725_5eb96ac7f9_b_d.jpg)

some light sanding in between coats

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3502/13010143225_41b6318d7e_b_d.jpg)

and one final layer with the spray can

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3190/13010289353_fc37e28f94_b_d.jpg)

let's remove those stencils - looking good so far ...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/13010138425_3c792bb87a_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7444/13010284533_3be3eb3957_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/13010132185_3df114f75a_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/13010278523_078344f595_b_d.jpg)

not bad i'd say, BUT when removing the "letter stencils" it's a slightly different story

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/13010511534_893245a6ea_b_d.jpg)

as you can see, there's been a lot of bleeding paint. i was afraid this was going to happen, because the stencils didn't stick that well to the white base. i had to press them down again from time to time, especially the thinner pieces. don't know why that was though, perhaps because the stencils were quite old or because of the paint i used ... hmm? might try a coat of clear paint first on the opposing side to "seal" the edges.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/13010273623_5f5a542deb_b_d.jpg)

but don't worry, nothing's really lost, because basically it's a layer of blue on top of a layer of white, meaning i should be able to scratch it off!

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3035/13010505304_7a5b57791c_b_d.jpg)

same spot with the blue paint run removed! this is going to be a painstaking process of pure will, but it'll work and that's the most important thing :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/13010503034_7a1985ea98_b_d.jpg)

and here we are, after an hour of scratching it looks so much better. there are still some spots left i could go over again / i have missed, but i'm extremely happy with the way it turned out. not to mention that the blue / white color combination simply looks kickass!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/13010500994_4fa2e80094_b_d.jpg)

:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 08, 2014, 04:39:45 PM
Again, I love the combination of the white and blue   :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: gyruss on March 08, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Love it!! :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 08, 2014, 06:32:49 PM
Super nice result after the scrabing!! :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Tyrem on March 08, 2014, 06:42:57 PM
bloody cool! love the result!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 08, 2014, 07:35:05 PM
Once again. Very Well done.
I appreciate those hundrets of pictures of your restorations, from other people and those scratch build replicas.

I learned a lot over the last months from this forum :)

Keep up the good work folks.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: anunaki on March 08, 2014, 07:52:50 PM
Great result Ully

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 08, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Looks great, this cab is gonna be very nice when finished  :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: scr33n on March 08, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
Great job Ully!!  :spaceace: awesome combination of colors  8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 09, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
thx for all the nice comments, guys, today it's time for side #2 ...
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Nic-fryer on March 09, 2014, 09:56:49 AM
I read in someone else's restoration they used stencils and the first coat over the stencils is done in the base coat to seal the stencils.

I hope that makes sense.  :P
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Belike on March 09, 2014, 09:59:42 AM
Nice result, I  work with the same blue colour these days. ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 09, 2014, 10:13:20 AM
I read in someone else's restoration they used stencils and the first coat over the stencils is done in the base coat to seal the stencils.

I hope that makes sense.  :P

totally! i've tried it with a clear coat this time (instead of white) and then rolled on the blue - paint is drying as we speak. i'll report back with the results later!

Nice result, I  work with the same blue colour these days. ;)

zacc bubble bobble? ;) 8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 09, 2014, 06:23:21 PM

let's see how the other side will "survive the operation" - stencils in place, edges masked off, clear coat already sprayed on!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/13037874104_95abbdd8b7_b_d.jpg)

otherwise same procedure as before: a few blue layers rolled on, light sanding in between, two final blue layers with the spray can

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7439/13037870864_30eb2b5b0d_b_d.jpg)

let's find out how it turned out this time: not bad for a start!

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3519/13037867474_025ec38503_b_d.jpg)

looking really good this time :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/13037862374_6d9c15ed07_b_d.jpg)

in detail

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3328/13037650733_4582b1fce4_b_d.jpg)

but what about the letters? that's where i had most of the problems the last time, but ...

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3045/13037856784_1245b58455_b_d.jpg)

... not this time!!! :-*

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3348/13037645773_f0f229c680_b_d.jpg)

there were only a few spots where i had to use the xacto knife again, but all in all this was close to perfect

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2313/13037853534_1d07c6928e_b_d.jpg)

anyone wanna have a set of classic taito stencils? pickup is free ;D

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/13037495185_364e4afda9_b_d.jpg)

guess i won't be needing those anymore anytime soon :arrow:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/13037845234_c071604eb0_b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: DarthNuno on March 09, 2014, 06:56:37 PM
Very great job, Ully!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 09, 2014, 08:26:59 PM

now that all the pieces have been painted, it's normally time for re-assembly, BUT i'm afraid this will have to wait a while :-[! why, you may ask? well, the thing is that all the taito cabs of that era had a vertical monitor setup - at least that's what my researches showed. therefore, the monitor area always looks like that :arrow:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3397/13040773424_2657418687_b_d.jpg)

in detail (sorry for the bad picture, it was taken a long time ago, but not in a galaxy far far away ;)). at first i thought i could simply turn the monitor and the wooden bezel that goes around it, but this is not possible for two reasons: (a) the monitor brackets only support a vertical mount and (b) the wooden bezel is specificially cut so that it only works in this direction. i do have an idea however, but this "idea" needs to be transported from the usa to germany first. it might take a couple of weeks for it to arrive, so in the meantime i can't continue working on the cabinet itself. PLUS there is a chance that my idea won't work at all, but if it does it'll kick ass - i can promise that! 8)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2324/13040554623_d1540957c1_b_d.jpg)

but let's assume it'll work as planned and i can mount the monitor in a horizontal position, i still need to put the cabinet back together. originally, the pieces were held in place by four things: check out the following picture :arrow:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2349/13040552873_c99c9fb8e1_b_d.jpg)

(1) glue
(2) brackets with screws
(3) wooden "triangles"
(4) nails

for reassembly, i can do number 1 to 3, but nails i cannot do, because otherwise i would have to drive nails through the freshly painted sides. however, i'm afraid that without nails the cabinet might be a little bit fragile and that it might come apart when moving it around too often or too hard.

with that being said, i was wondering whether one of you guys has any ideas how i could make the connections somewhat tighter. i though about using dowels, but it might get tricky to align the pieces 100% then. i'm looking for some kind if "hidden connection", something i don't have to hammer in from the outside, but something that's on the inside which somehow holds the pieces together. just like a nail, but without having to nail it in from the outside. hope you know what i'm talking about and have some ideas here. keep 'em coming, guys ... :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Laszo on March 09, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
I would go without the extra's, use a strong glue, together with the stuts, screws and the triangles it must be enough... Such a beautifully painted cab should not be handled roughly  :D.

Still if you wanna nail it you could use squere wooden supports on the inside corners and nail it from the insede out.

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 09, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
nice advice with the corner supports. the reason why i wanna make it somewhat tighter is that it used nails originally and i don't think they simply put them in for weight reasons :P. i remember that i saw some kind of small metal triangles once when i disassembled something which had been hammered in between two pieces of woods, but i haven't been able to find those and googling for "small metal triangles" yields results like that :arrow:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NgR6kgJUpsM/TaxNkvijbEI/AAAAAAAABQQ/1mKlxg5RL54/s320/dustcorners.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 10, 2014, 09:55:48 AM
if you are precise (which i know you are !), and you use the correct tool, you can use dowels without any problems.

there is some little piece of metal that you need to use for the dowels.

first drill the hole on one piece, then insert these and "mark" the other piece with this and drill that after:

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/doweltool.jpg)

i did use that, so if i was succesfull, you will be for sure with your woordworking skills !  :spaceace: :spaceace:

Oh and by the way, i also used a drillstop in the process to prevent drilling too deep :

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/drillstop.jpg)

both tools came in a set which i bought one day and its very recommendable to use both  ;)

by the way, nice CK marquee  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on March 10, 2014, 09:57:37 AM
I have no clue how these metal triangles work....but why not simply use screws with those wooden triangles?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 10, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
never seen those before, etienne, this looks like something that might come in handy! thx a lot :spaceace:

I have no clue how these metal triangles work....but why not simply use screws with those wooden triangles?

because those wooden triangles are quite fragile and if i used screws on them they might possibly break apart.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 10, 2014, 02:06:47 PM
they sel sets like this;

(http://www.baptist.nl/uploads/images/producten/large_13512627727814.jpg)

This also has another tool which could be handy. (it guides the drill so you are drilling straight.

(http://www.baptist.nl/uploads/images/producten/large_13512639716958.jpg)

mine was just a very cheap set in the 5€ bin at the local DIY store and just had the dowels, puncture bits and drill with drillstop.

i used my workbench drill, so i did not have the problem with drilling accidentally under an angle..

(http://www.gereedschap.net/media/catalog/product/cache/5/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/2/4250420_11061_bt_bd_401.jpg)

but i am sure you can find something like this around you.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 13, 2014, 02:38:08 PM

now that all the pieces have been painted, it's normally time for re-assembly, BUT i'm afraid this will have to wait a while :-[! why, you may ask? well, the thing is that all the taito cabs of that era had a vertical monitor setup - at least that's what my researches showed. therefore, the monitor area always looks like that :arrow:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3397/13040773424_2657418687_b_d.jpg)


Went to an operator yesterday. He has the same cab on sale if someone is interested.
Asking 125 EUR without monitor (pickup Belgium).

Secondly I got another Taito cab (different stlye, very nice space sidearts) for myself...it was also converted with this Crazy Kong Marquee. Seems that (Bootleg)Game was quite popular with taito cabs.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 13, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
Went to an operator yesterday. He has the same cab on sale if someone is interested.
Asking 125 EUR without monitor (pickup Belgium).

man, if i had known that earlier. i've already exchanged some pics with the guy, but 125 euros for a cab without a monitor (plus the joystick on the panel is not original) was too much - although he told me the price is negotiable. but then i thought "hmm, belgium, and decided to drop the case". are you going there again? do you know if it has the original power supply inside?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 13, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Went to an operator yesterday. He has the same cab on sale if someone is interested.
Asking 125 EUR without monitor (pickup Belgium).

man, if i had known that earlier. i've already exchanged some pics with the guy, but 125 euros for a cab without a monitor (plus the joystick on the panel is not original) was too much - although he told me the price is negotiable. but then i thought "hmm, belgium, and decided to drop the case". are you going there again? do you know if it has the original power supply inside?

I grabbed the two NEO Geo cabinets, so with no space left - I wasn't able to take it, too.
As far as I remember he said it's complete but wanted to take the monitor for one of his own machines.
Had the same CPO as pictured but different DIY-marquee.

That storage is full of universal machines and he needs the space, so...yes, you might get it cheaper then. Otherwise not much left, instead of a few Sega Naomis and Virtua Strikers.

Belgium was a 4 hour drive...VERY NICE Buildings in the city of GEEL...I always thought houses are more expensive than in the netherlands but with 50+ large townhouses in one street, there is either a good economy, cheap houses or very low credit loans right now...
(sorry for not taking ANY pics on the trip - next time).
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 13, 2014, 10:58:17 PM
I grabbed the two NEO Geo cabinets, so with no space left - I wasn't able to take it, too.
As far as I remember he said it's complete but wanted to take the monitor for one of his own machines.
Had the same CPO as pictured but different DIY-marquee.

thx for your explanation, you got two neo geos? not bad at all! here's what the seller told me about the stratovox cabinet:

Marquee is repro, bezel and controlpanel are original. Otherwise cabinet is empty.  Screen untested (ill probably remove it) and the pcb inside it is not stratovox and Ill also remove that one.

(sorry for not taking ANY pics on the trip - next time).

man, why do you guys always forget to take pics? isn't that what makes a roadtrip interesting as well? camera = must!!! never forget 8)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 20, 2014, 06:19:24 PM

while still waiting for bubble bobble cabinet parts, something else arrived at my doorstep

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/13290794085_a11dfa0777_b_d.jpg)

something which must be handled carefully

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/13291155784_a3b26f54b5_b_d.jpg)

let's have a look at the customs declaration form: coming in from seoul, south korea a used old pc board

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/13290949203_04c674b273_b_d.jpg)

here's what it looks like inside the box - still in its bubble wrap protection

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/13290946323_b5c616b7ce_b_d.jpg)

but wait, what's that underneath it? ANOTHER ONE? and what about that smaller red bubble wrap package?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7411/13290943343_1005c87f1c_b_d.jpg)

so what's inside all that packaging stuff?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7184/13291137334_f7f1cb5afd_b_d.jpg)

not one, but TWO modded pc engines!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7320/13290940253_c9c2961dcc_b_d.jpg)

it's an official pc engine jamma modification which allows you to run the system inside a jamma arcade cabinet!

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3685/13291140314_6465a35706_b_d.jpg)

ok, interesting, but what about the red bubble wrap package? time to find out! inside, two HU-eprom cards

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/13291134624_889045af73_b_d.jpg)

simply slide them into the pc engine and ...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/13290927933_2d95566c25_b_d.jpg)

... play PARASOL STARS on your arcade cabinet! :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7016/13291128264_e28371951a_b_d.jpg)

for those of you who don't know the game, parasol stars is the official sequel to rainbow islands, but it was never released in the arcades - contrary to what some people say. however, it was first released on pc engine (later ported to other systems like the amiga) and this version is supposed to be the best one which has arcade-like graphics, sound and gameplay!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/13290765185_4b9e044b4b_b_d.jpg)

i'll be running the pc engine inside my other bubble bobble cabinet - together with RAINBOW ISLANDS, because those two games simply belong together :-*

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2819/13290925703_b3f3210449_b_d.jpg)

oh, why do you need two pc engines, you might ask? simple answer: i don't :P. the second one will be sent off to some danish dude "living" in The Shed tomorrow ... have fun, michael! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on March 20, 2014, 07:41:37 PM
Amazing!!!! wooohooo!! Cant wait to test it in my cab!!!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 20, 2014, 10:46:48 PM
Weird timing Ully, look what I finally hooked up this week!
(http://dreamjam.co.uk/arcade/jamma_pce02.jpg)

It's awesome to play it on your cab. My local arcade had it for a while and it must have been running on one of these. It really looks good on a big CRT :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 21, 2014, 08:04:16 AM
:o :o :o WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! are you also using a HU-eprom card? you can easily play other games as well, right? after all, it's a pc engine in the end, just a different way to present / play it.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 21, 2014, 09:56:21 AM
I'm using an Everdrive so I can copy roms to the sd card and pick from a menu when I boot up the cab. It's only got Parasol Stars on it at the moment  ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 21, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
I've got it running on my Egret II cab at the moment, I made a quick vid of worlds 1 and 2.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YrLczP0f1xk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YrLczP0f1xk)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on March 21, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
If you like these kind of games and graphics...you should consider game RODLAND, too.

so much more nice games on the PC Engine...What's the price of such a device right now?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on March 21, 2014, 01:05:12 PM
I'm using an Everdrive so I can copy roms to the sd card and pick from a menu when I boot up the cab. It's only got Parasol Stars on it at the moment  ;)

interesting! pc engine everdrive - is it this one (http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm)?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: muddymusic on March 23, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
Yes, that's it :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: funkycochise on March 29, 2014, 02:48:50 PM
I'm using an Everdrive so I can copy roms to the sd card and pick from a menu when I boot up the cab. It's only got Parasol Stars on it at the moment  ;)

interesting! pc engine everdrive - is it this one (http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm)?

i'm using it too, very usefull tool.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on May 06, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
Need a topper?

https://www.gamerabilia.co.uk/bubble-bobble-plush-soft-toys-bub-bob-sound-effects (https://www.gamerabilia.co.uk/bubble-bobble-plush-soft-toys-bub-bob-sound-effects)

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 06, 2014, 06:33:38 PM
Need a topper?

https://www.gamerabilia.co.uk/bubble-bobble-plush-soft-toys-bub-bob-sound-effects (https://www.gamerabilia.co.uk/bubble-bobble-plush-soft-toys-bub-bob-sound-effects)



hell ya!!! i've been looking for these ever since i saw the following post a couple of months ago (http://instagram.com/p/i3F9lNLJOx/#)!

(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-ash/1599915_616777741710667_1068488104_n.jpg)

are they identical?

(http://gaya-entertainment.de/media/image/thumbnail/ge2232_1_720x600.jpg)

hehe, here's a somewhat strange video review of the plush dolls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBfsrOGpT_g)  :P
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 06, 2014, 08:45:06 PM
I think they are cute  :D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on May 07, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
+1 and the lower picture are the better one's IMHO.

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: cebulba on July 05, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
While I'm at it (for a different project - stay tuned) - you may be also interested in the "RAINBOW ISLAND" artwork by Dutch Artist MetinSeven:
(http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0013/p/4393474_11993392_lz.jpg)
Buy over here:
http://society6.com/sevensheaven/inside-rainbow-islands#1=45 (http://society6.com/sevensheaven/inside-rainbow-islands#1=45)

His Website and other arts available over here:
http://www.sevensheaven.nl/2014/05/3d-pixel-artwork-voxels-blocks-cubic-illustrations.html (http://www.sevensheaven.nl/2014/05/3d-pixel-artwork-voxels-blocks-cubic-illustrations.html)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Arch on January 30, 2015, 11:40:19 AM
Hey Ully, did this project ever come to an end?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on January 31, 2015, 10:45:10 AM
Hey Ully, did this project ever come to an end?

unfortunately not yet. i took out the stuff during the christmas holidays and tried to figure out the horizontal monitor mount, but got distracted by something (or better: somebody) else then. i'm going through a possibly lifechanging phase at the moment and have no idea where / how this is going to end, therefore i only have extremely limited time for the hobby at the moment ...
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Arch on January 31, 2015, 11:19:40 AM
Ok, thanks for the reply Ully. I hope you will be able to sort out the things in your life for the best. There are more important things out there than the hobby.

The reason I asked is that I might have something incoming, and if it works out I plan to shamelessly imitate your project. ;) I am particularly curious about how you plan to solve the horisontal monitor mounting you mention.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Thwocker on January 31, 2015, 02:14:51 PM
Hey, let us know when your collection comes up for sale!     ;D

Cheers,
Marco


Hey Ully, did this project ever come to an end?

unfortunately not yet. i took out the stuff during the christmas holidays and tried to figure out the horizontal monitor mount, but got distracted by something (or better: somebody) else then. i'm going through a possibly lifechanging phase at the moment and have no idea where / how this is going to end, therefore i only have extremely limited time for the hobby at the moment ...
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on January 31, 2015, 08:15:12 PM
Mmmm........

Ully, there is not a single game or any other physical thing that can possibly more important than, as I presume, love.

But I sincerely hope you can have both !
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on May 31, 2015, 06:59:03 PM

anyone interested in bringing this project to an end - i just can't find the dedication anymore to do so ...

you will get everything you need to finish it - including a working original bb pcb!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on May 31, 2015, 07:40:33 PM
Wow, depends on the price, you have PB..
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ajhippel on August 16, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
i solved the horizontal monitor mounting with some wood-works.

i rebuilt the wooden plate of the original vertical monitor mounting and cut a horizontal hole in it.

pic1: Original

pic2: the New one.
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Arch on August 28, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
Nice, Jochen! Was there a lot of routing involved? It is sort of hard to tell from the pictures. I fucking hate routers. :evil:
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ajhippel on August 31, 2015, 04:04:57 PM
most of the woodwork i did with a skill saw.

the only routing involved was the 2mm depth 2cm wide frame on top to insert the black plastic bezel for the monitor.

the black plastic bezel must be inserted because the graphic-bezel is lying straight on top the wood.
 
i made it a bit deeper than 2mm so i could add a dark tinted plexi.

Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Arch on September 01, 2015, 10:17:48 AM
Great, thanks for the description. Does this mean that you have taken over Ully's project, or is this for another cab?
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ajhippel on October 04, 2016, 09:40:16 AM
Hi,

as some of you already know, i took on Ully's Bubble Bobble project.

i just want to show an update of the super nice Bubble Bobble Project and Ully's Perfect work.

i still need to:

-> get 2nd stick for the CP and move the very right button 2 cm up.
-> design a CPO
-> design a Bezel
-> T-molding

I built the Parts together, and this is how it looks like:



Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: joeks on October 04, 2016, 11:26:09 AM
Nice work Ully and Jochen! Such a great game :)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Thwocker on October 04, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
Lovely!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: level42 on October 05, 2016, 01:13:41 AM
Awesome......but yet........IMHO that cabinet seems too old for Bubble Bobble....dunno...it's just another era in my mind.









.......awaiting Superully to make a smart-ass comment......
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ajhippel on October 05, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
for me it's ok.

bubble bobble was a conversion kit, so most of the time they used older cabinets to convert the machine to the brand new game....

so they _could_ have used a stratovox cab - but a qix as well...

in any case, i love the cabinet - but i do not like the wheight of this cabinet.... this one is the heaviest upright (beside star wars) i needed to carry up to the 2nd floor :o



Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Superully on October 05, 2016, 12:21:12 PM
......awaiting Superully to make a smart-ass comment......

here you go, andré:

glad that you managed to get it together, jochen, looking smart-ass sharp. HOWEVER, this is one of those (few) games i REALLY regret selling!!! i can't remember why i sold off all my bubble bobble / rainbow islands stuff after putting so much work into it - especially since i totally dig the game!!!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on October 05, 2016, 03:03:44 PM
Folks, what do you think would a decent Taito 2-way-stick, made to perfectly fit into that controlpanel, be worth?  ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ajhippel on October 05, 2016, 03:16:59 PM
Folks, what do you think would a decent Taito 2-way-stick, made to perfectly fit into that controlpanel, be worth?  ;D

i hope, that no one will answer luigi's question  ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on October 05, 2016, 03:27:00 PM
Don't worry my friend, you already know the price ;)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Muerto on October 05, 2016, 09:01:35 PM
(http://beattapeco-op.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/a1606526910_2-300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Luigi on October 06, 2016, 10:48:09 AM
Jochen, I told you not to discuss the price with others!!!


 ;D
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: gyruss on October 06, 2016, 01:24:56 PM
looks super nice so far!
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: ckong on October 06, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
looks super nice so far!

+1
Title: Re: [Superully's Restoration] Bubble Bobble Project - here we go ...
Post by: Pinge on October 06, 2016, 06:51:17 PM
Looks awesome, I wish there was a original dedicated Bubble Bobble, and even more a dedicated Rainbow islands  ;D