Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: Andreas_AUT on April 03, 2017, 09:00:39 PM
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if I wouldnt have already enough projects...
So, 3 cabs went from germany ( Blackforest warehouse ) to austria.
At the beginning, I just looked for that NeoGeo MVS cab, so I can finally play my MVS cartridges in the big red cab. Well, my little piggyeyes saw a Nintendo DK Jr cab in the background. Long story short, the seller had 2 Nintendo cabs, 1 for sale.
Ok, a dedicated Nintendo cab was already on my list, sometime I will buy one. But, why shouldnt I ask for a package price ( which worked perfect ). I searched for Nintendo cabs in the US market and they are already at about 500,- ( or more, except you find a bargain at craigslist ). Then count the shipping cost onto it and when I compared it to my "offer", I thought that price is already fair.
The seller cut some of the shipping costs to my place too, which was really awesome from him.
A member of an german forum visited the seller, since he lives only 1 hour away from him. I guess they spoke about Joust, you must have nerves of steel when you see that cab. So the seller made an offer for that joust ( he just tried to sell it without losing money ), I saw the advertise and thought - well, a Joust is not a bad game, maybe I should pick that up too? You guess what happened.
Today, they arrived ( and they fit easily into my garage! )
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2946/33775592216_963e5db05d_c.jpg)
After recycling the bubble wrap and shipping safety stuff, the cabs had to go off that euro pallets and off the garage into open space. Even in my big garage, I could smell that mold which was in the cabs.
State of the cabs:
The NeoGeo has the best condition of them. 1 Backdoor is damaged, I believe a 2nd wooden plate is missing. Technically, I didnt check them because I had no time for that.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3855/33816278515_d9ae212378_c.jpg)
2nd place goes to DK Jr.:
Sure, here and there is something to do - the CPO is damaged, speakergrill needs work, rust on that metal plate where the PCB is mounted on and again, that yellow mold. I guess it is mold, its near everywhere across the cabinet - even behind that PCB metal plate.
My father think its from a woodworm, I doubt that. I dont see holes which are normally made from woodworms and as I wrote, this yellow mold is all across the cab.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2880/33003028333_4f17d1ea2a_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2869/33006557263_808367f512_c.jpg)
Place 4 goes to Joust:
Mold, rust, floated wood, PCB has acid dmg, Joysticks are bleached from dust and sunlight. This cabinet has really seen better days, sadly, a loooong time ago!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2864/33663388012_78f0d8b9f2_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2819/33819912155_d5fa18d462_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2833/33775590686_cd33fe0ccc_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3853/33778936056_0aba52375d_c.jpg)
But I accept that challenge, that cab would not be parted out ( like guys in the US would propably do ). I will definitely restore it. From my first inspection, I have seen I must change 2 wooden plates ( front- backdoor ). I´ll have to do a more detailed inspection the following days.
So, if you ask yourself now " hey wait, 1st, 2nd and 4th place, where is the 3rd one"? Well that will be Missile command, which is definitely in a better condition like Joust, but it has some "artwork" which burns your eyes, you will see ;D
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Really awesome pickups!
But you sure have to spend alot of time and some money to get them back to their fromer glory! :D
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Thx Pinge.
Yeah, I guess you are right. But on the other side, its a hobby ( and a beautifull one ;D ).
So first, I try to fix that Neo Geo and move it up into my little game room, then its time for the Nintendo. And then, Joust should get his attention ^^.
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Nice find, Joust and DK Jr. is very uncommon in Europe.
Hope you can restore them to their former glory. ;)
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I like to have larger projects aswell, but it feels like the costs always make the cab more expensive in the end than to buy a restored one (for me anyways), but as you state this is our hobby, and I love the feeling of actually learning by doing on the way to finish a project...
Sadly I tend to almost finish them... never really do that last little bit... could be as easy as putting a lock on the backdoor... probably I have some kind of diagnosis... :lol:
One good thing with more than one project is that there is always something you could work on, I hate to get stuck and wait 2weeks for a part just to find myself stuck again as soon as the peart arrives... guess I have to stock up on loads and loads of parts ::)
What a nightmare to get stuck on all projects at the same time, then I might have to actually play something instead :o
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Thx belike, i try to ^^ ( and have too ).
Pinge, this is exactly what im thinking about restorations too.
You try to restore step by step, have to do orders/reproduction whatever and then there is some delay time - this makes me :twisted:
On the other side, I have so many open projects, even if its only something small like ordering the correct buttons.
Well, I guess I will order some parts like caps, standard IC´s too. But there are so many other things on my list to buy, like an oszi! ( even if I dont know how to work with it atm ).
Ill keep you updated!
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Congrats!
NeoGeo cab is not in my style but DKJ and JOUST are great!
If you decide JOUST needs too much work simply contact me, it's the kind of restoration I prefer :*
Anyway please post your restorations!!
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Congrats!
NeoGeo cab is not in my style but DKJ and JOUST are great!
That was my exactly thought too.
I had an electrocoin big ass of a neogeo cabinet a few years back, nice to play on but i didnt like the apperance of it so I let it go..
I personally dont like NeoGeo with very few exceptions...
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Well, I have that Sega Mega Tech now ( small tube is working now ), the Neo Geo MVS so im only missing a Nintendo Playchoice or vs ;D
I simply like the idea having one dedicated cab where you can choose from different games to play.
And I can dance through the streets now like he does:
https://youtu.be/Q_kGJBv6Wr4 (https://youtu.be/Q_kGJBv6Wr4)
Ok, yesterday I got project number 4:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2830/33858984275_9aac13a894_c.jpg)
I think there is no more comment needed for that... colors!
Off course I had to look immediately under that CP. Sadly, someone cut it out to mount buttons and Joystick into it.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/33015494024_d1947fe4d0_c.jpg)
Well and I was curios, if there is the original artwork under that paint. I but on some paint remover and yes, you could see the lovely artwork:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2858/33015508614_07af384bb7_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2902/33702728242_b58bef68ef_c.jpg)
Off course the kitty was curious too.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2922/33045675723_447ebeb4d5_c.jpg)
I could easily remove that pink sticker at the marquee and beneath, there was a really nice missile command artwork without any damage.
The conebuttons are not really pretty. And I have to check if the wireharness is still from missile command.
The next picture is from the Nintendo cab, and yes, its mold. So I demolded it with a lot of spray!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3736/33015507284_4e18a19387_c.jpg)
I put the cab to the side, dismounted the power supply and demolded the underside of the cab ( there was a lot of mold ).
I checked the cab today and there was only a tiny bit of mold inside the cab, I will get rid of it tomorrow.
And the nintendo cab gets a full time restore. Even if it looks nice at the beginning, I found many rusty parts, screws and so on. It was really hard to put out some nuts because of rust. Tomorrow, I have to use some hard tool but then I will de-rust the parts I can reuse again and order new parts too. I mean I would get angry to myself when I dont do it right from the start - it was a pain to open the marqueecover, so imagine its in your gameroom and the marquee bulb quits shining...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2949/33878508075_c46b575501_c.jpg)
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Wow, those are some nice finds! I wouldn't worry too much about the mold, I have removed worse with bleach/chlorine. :)
I think you have enough projects for the whole summer now! ;D
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Who did that to a Missile Command.... may he burn in hell for it.
In the warehouse we have been raiding a few times there is a Missile command control panel, ofc missing the cone buttons but the trackball is there, cant really remember the condition of it... I could check it out when we go there next time... I would say maybe mid June...
Will check through my pictures and see if I can spot it... or maybe you are sorted controlpanel wise?
And if you need marquee-thingy there is one for sale on a "Swedish craigslist"
https://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Flipper__och_arkadspelsglas_72308198.htm?ca=13&w=3
Dont know the price or anything really, it says pricing is 100-1000... would be like 10-100€ for the parts he has.
Talking about Nintendo cabs and the screws.... how is it even possible to make screws so soft and week as the brass-screws Nintendo used on their powersupplies??
I had to cut two of them with an angle grinder.
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Pinge, I had to cut the screws too with my handsaw. So I could turn them with a big screwdriver.
Thx, my marquee is fine but I really would be interested in the trackball and maybe the whole CP ( if it looks like this one: (https://cdn.wikimg.net/strategywiki/images/8/89/Missile_Command_cpanel.jpg) )
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I also have a Missile Command control panel and board for sale, but I think it would cost a fortune to ship them to you. >:(
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I have the board ( even I dont know if it works ), im only missing the CP with the trackball and 1 cone button ( 4 were still there, even in not so good shape ).
Maybe shipping gets cheaper without a pcb? I dont know what norways post office is charging for it, but I got used to some prices from our post office ;D
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I have a nice original marquee in my store.
http://www.arcadeartshop.com/product/original-atari-missile-command-marquee-header/ (http://www.arcadeartshop.com/product/original-atari-missile-command-marquee-header/)
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Hey Muddymusic, I wasnt sure if you are here on DLF too, good to know :-)
Thx, I already had some PM via UKVAC about the Marquee with you, but my marquee is in very good condition, so sorry, I dont need that.
But im not sure about sidearts and I definitely need that bezel stickers ( and maybe CPO, depends on in what condition I will get a CP or only the trackball ).
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Maybe shipping gets cheaper without a pcb? I dont know what norways post office is charging for it, but I got used to some prices from our post office ;D
Shipping will be around 50 euro. :(
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Holy ship, thats much. Well at this moment, I keep it in mind that you would have one too :D
Guys, I need your help/opinion:
At the beginning, I just want to put a working PCB and monitor into it, make it pretty and put it into my game room.
Making it pretty was the "failure" - the screws for the monitors ( they one which go through the sideart ) and the coindoor need some cleaning. Putting them out was hardcore: means 2/3 of all screws are completely rusty, I had to cut that coinbox plate into 2 parts to get it out - the screws on one side didnt want to move.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3829/33765224641_fe7b68a6b4_c.jpg)
I had to use an flex tool to cut the nuts away, then I was able to knock the screws out of the front wooden plate.
So, there are some rusty parts still in there, like this monitor plate bracket. Or all the screws for the front plate.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2867/33765221851_8be97727cb_c.jpg)
The point is, should I go hardcore, dismantle the whole cab just to put new screws into it? I mean that rusty parts are ugly, but you wont see it anymore when the game runs ( all are hidden inside the cab ) and the cab stands in an dry gameroom. On the other side, I know there are some things undone when I stop here and rebuild the cab to working condition.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2839/33081465123_2950fa1c49_c.jpg)
Decisions, decisions...
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My advice
Wabi-sabi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi)
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Hehe Laszo, its a way too late now.
This is day 3 of my restauration ( ok, spent some time for my neo geo too ) and I am really exhausted. Luckily, I sit now in front of my computer with an ice cold beer ;D
So, the cab has only top, bottom and sidewalls left, near everything else has been gone out. Guys, you wont believe, there are SO MANY screws/nuts and bolts which are totally rusted. Even if they look nice, the thread from the sparx/screw is rusted into the wood. So off course you cant put out them with a normal screwdriver or ratchet, you ruin the head or they brake off.
If amazon is correct, I get some more tool on tuesday ( drills and small cutting discs ) and I can finish the disassemble. The wooden plates, well that top layer on the inside ( veneer? ) goes off because it must have been wet in the past. I have to fix that. Then the screw holes: many times, the screw just rip off the hole ( without turning ), so the hole isnt really good now to put in a new screw. I will fix that with some special wood filler.
The controlpanel, no you cant just simply put out all screws normally. Its the same desaster like on the cabinet - the cabinet I thought is in pretty good condition and just a simple Monitor / power supply change. Well...
This here is a screwhead:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2868/33551048660_cea910f904_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2910/33123196523_d65d2dec3a_c.jpg)
Here is a picture where my DK was placed before:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2810/33071284674_849fb3acf8_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2902/33757538312_35f9c53bca_c.jpg)
Since I paid a lot of money for a nintendo cab, there is no other solution than restoring it to former glory! Because no one would pay you that much for a cab in this condition.
Metal parts will get powder coated. Screws will be bought new. And I will grind the wood and repaint respectively fix the damage.
Partslist:
T-Molding
CPO
screws
sideart
video soundboard from mikes arcade ( since i dont use an sanyo )
Last thing: the paint
I already bought some paint Ral 2011 from my test example ( broke a small chip off ) but today, I removed the sideart.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2833/33778573662_0d3db00091_c.jpg)
This picture does not reflect the original color ( smartphone pictures ), but you can see the difference between the small part laying on the sidewall. The small part and the right side ( where the sideart was on before ), you can see that the color is different to the left side. Well no sunlight, no color change. So I will buy a new paint to get as close to the original color as possible.
I hope I can finish that rebuild in the next... hmm .. 5 weeks?
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haha, love the place of the DK on the ship!!
We have a galaxian coctailtable that were in the center of the reactorcore when the shit hit the fan i Fukkushima... will be a funny restore aswell.
I have a DK-Jr in far from perfect condition... so i will follow this restoration with big interest, might even ask a question or two later on whenever I get to star on mine... I do have a sanyo in it, stonedead though.
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Wow, that is a big job. Respect! :spaceace:
I love that submarine picture too! ;D
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We have a galaxian coctailtable that were in the center of the reactorcore when the shit hit the fan i Fukkushima...
WHAT? Surely you must mean that it looks like it was there? ;D ??? :oops:
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not really to be honest, more likely it was dug up from a pile of dirt...
sorry to go OT in this thread but here is how the coindoor looks like.... how the hell to hay and dirt get there?
The rest of the inside is in the same state, it was definatley something living inside it for quite some time...
(http://forumbilder.se/G81JJ/galaxiancoindoor.JPG?width=150) (http://forumbilder.se/G81JJ/galaxiancoindoor)
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Cool thread with some really nice pickups. Every cabinet saved warms my heart :D
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Keep posting and we will send good vibes your way. May the force be with you ⚡️
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Thx guys ;D
Not much progress at the moment. I had a lot of organisation to do, doing another pcb bulk buy, and I ordered a lot of parts, screws, tools and missing parts from mikes arcade from the states.
I think I have to tell you, that this guy is REALLY FAST!! I mean I placed an order there and normally it takes 1-2 days for some respond. But after a few hours, I got the mail it has been shipped :shock: ;) And then I got some refund too. Beside that, Mike is always responding if you have a question or when I mentioned I could make a picture of schematic, he is missing on his site. Great shop :!:
I got some laminate for the inside of the cab, which broke off when removing stuff. I guess next week, I will continue with it.
Happy easter @all!
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Actually, I didnt update the thread here because I had not much time to spend on the cab restoration.
But a few weeks now, I spend 2-3h some days to bring up some progress.
So, after putting many parts together ( and watching the pictures which part belongs to which place ), im actually asking myself: what color should it get.
As Ully mentioned, if you look at the cp and marquee, the cab should be blue.
See also these impressions:
(http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/flyers_video/nintendo/22003102.jpg)
and:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/donkey-kong-jr-in-rare-factory-blue-cabinet (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/donkey-kong-jr-in-rare-factory-blue-cabinet)
So, I already have the orange color for the cab at home, but since that cab already is a bit ugly, im thinking about doing it blue... hard decision!
To be honest, I shouldnt have dismantled the whole cabinet. Just make all screwheads nice, but well, that train has gone a long time ago. While dismantling, many times, the top wood layer just peeled of because of rust and water damage.
Now im trying to make it pretty again, but it would never be the same as before. On the other side, almost no rusty parts now inside the cab!
I still have to sanddust the coindoor and 2 other metal bars, so I will update this with pictures in the very near future.
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go blue 8)
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go blue 8)
Bought it, stay tuned 8)
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Ok, I guess I should have done a complete new topic for the DK Jr restoration, maybe I can change the title.
Nevermind, ill finish my resto here in this thread.
So, in the last few weeks, I was busy working on my Dk Jr. There were many days, where I thought WHY THE HELL DID YOU DISMANTLE THAT CAB? You dont remember which part was where and you cant finish it like it was before, but...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4232/35359546062_d79656b118_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4212/35526747615_0e0690f612_c.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4210/34717264603_88f9814bee_c.jpg)
As you can read before, I couldnt choose which color I should take for a really long time.
But then I watched that flyer and that dedicated blue Dk Jr cab again, and thought, lets do it. Since there are so many nintendo cabs in crazy colors, ill go with blue this time!
So whats still to do?
Put in an Hantarex Monitor ( already have that graphic sound inverter ), installing cable harness, testing and installing PCB.
Cp must be polished and I really wanna find that black laminate under the cpo ( now, I just put some black vinyl over it ).
I will get an cpo from Olly ( UK ).
The coindoor, marquee and bezel bracket still need to be sandblasted and powdercoated.
Redo some black paint on my mistakes while panting it blue.
Finally, the cab is no more in my garage, because I need to make space since 4 other cabs are on the way to me... :oops: ;D
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the force is stron with you. that cabs looks FANTASTIC. is that laminate?
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Hehe, thx Ully.
No, just painted. First, I sanded the cab, then bondo (near) all dents and chips. I continued with primer 2x, after that the first coat of RAL 5012 ( lightblue ). Sanded it again with 240 and next coat of paint. Well I shot the pictures with my smartphone, so they are not that sharp and so you dont see the detail ;D
As I mentioned before, buy a good 2k bondo ( not the all in one solution I did ) - I think I did that speaker grill 4-5 times until I was happy with the result.
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Thx Nuno for the video in that bulk buy thread, you made a picture at the exact right moment:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum4/bulkbuytube.jpg)
Another proof for blue DK Jr cabs? ;D
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The good old days when we paid 350 for Nintendo cabs or pac-man or galaga!