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General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: DarthNuno on February 07, 2009, 07:13:59 PM

Title: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on February 07, 2009, 07:13:59 PM
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/apb-final.jpg)

Following this road trip  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/roadtrips/scud-apb.jpg) (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=288.0)

...the time is come to bring this ...bad guy? playable again  ::) ;D

Ok, here's the cabinet... inside the V2  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_1.jpg)

As you can see... no monitor  :?

...and this time, this will be a big problem because the original monitor is a medium resolution (24K), and so, I won't be able to put a TV... OK... I'll come back on this later...  ;)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_2.jpg)

The control panel is in good shape... only dust as you see (*almost* uncleaned yet  :oops:)  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_3.jpg)

The original board is there... and... when I got the game more than one year ago, we plugged the game, and we heard the game... let's hope it's still working... but at least, it looks complete  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_4.jpg)

...spider webs... as usual...

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_5.jpg)

You gonna die very soon... sorry  :oops:  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_6.jpg)

Let's check the identity of the cab'  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_8.jpg)

How many games played? Notice the sound board on the picture... yes, under a ton of dust  :?  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_9.jpg)

OK, let's start with a good cleaning of the inside  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_10.jpg)

Now, let's plug the game...and see what happens?  :pac:

One right part of the marquee is lightening up.

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_11.jpg)

...the board is up too...

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_12.jpg)

I press the coin switch... and ... YES  :) I can play the game... I'm blind ... but I can hear the sounds during my actions (accelerate, siren), the music and the sounds/speaks of the game.
Well, maybe everything on screen would be garbage graphics, bug, or even no display... but at this point, I still have hope  8)

Let's check how the board sends the pictures. Here's the cable  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_7.jpg)

As you can see, one of the previous owners of this cab has been changed something... the connector has been modified.

Anyway, it won't change anything because... I don't have a medium resolution monitor...  :-[ ... and I don't think I'll be able to found one near to me...ultra difficult to get in Europe,  I mean of this specific size (I'm not talking about monitors for Sega Racing games for example!)  :evil:...  so what?

Here's my solution  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb_atari_13.jpg)

Stay Tuned  ::) :P
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: subzero1970 on February 07, 2009, 08:18:38 PM
ooooh looking interesting bruno....this is a great wee game :)
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on February 22, 2009, 09:00:09 AM
Ok, everything is ready for the first test  ;)  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB_ptest1.jpg)

Power on :

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB_ptest2.jpg)

Opsss... what the @#!?

Ok, let's inverse the vertical / horizontal  sync wires, and let's try again  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB_ptest3.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1PVAZUTJ_U)
(click on picture to see the video test)

YEAH  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: funkycochise on February 22, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
the size of the original atari boards always frightens me  :oops:

good job, Bruno
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: petieken on February 22, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
the size of the original atari boards always frightens me  :oops:

I was thinking the same thing!

Good job btw, you always seem to find a neat solution when a new problem occurs ;) The 24khz to 31khz converter this time. I didn't even know that existed, I've only heard of a 15khz to 31khz converter and vice versa.
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on February 23, 2009, 08:06:42 PM
the size of the original atari boards always frightens me  :oops:

Yes...very impressive... the boards from 'Indiana Jones & the temple of Doom' (System1) are huge too... very scaring  :ghost: But for the moment, all that stuff is working (fingers crossed)  :P :-*  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-small2.jpg)

I didn't even know that existed, I've only heard of a 15khz to 31khz converter and vice versa.

Yes, this interface is very impressive... it can do anything  :) ...and it has all the connectors, see  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-small4.jpg)

From left to right : GND, S (I believe it's a composite signal?, or maybe a negative Sync?), Vertical Sync, Horizontal Sync, Blue, Green, Red  :-*

I love this 9" monitor... so useful as you can see  ;D  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-small1.jpg)

First game played here  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-small3.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: petieken on February 23, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-small3.jpg)

This picture is so funny, the steering wheel looks bigger than that 9" monitor ;D ;)

Altough it is nice to have such a small monitor for testing purposes.


Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 01, 2009, 08:03:27 AM
For information, a 'seat' option was available for that cabinet, see the fixation here  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next1.jpg)

...I don't have the seat, but I don't care... 'coz, back the Days, I didn't played that game on a seat  8)

Ok, so the next step is... put a monitor here :

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next2.jpg)

'until I will find a 'medium resolution' 20" monitor, I'll use this VGA screen  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next3.jpg)

Same one, but 'naked'  :P  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next4.jpg)

After a small adjustment in the wood... it fits  8)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next5.jpg)

Because I don't have the original frame, I'm fixing the monitor like this  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next6.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next7.jpg)

Cool, I'll let the 'geometry/color setting' control panel attached, like this  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next8.jpg)

It will be hidden by the bezel  8)

OK, quick test... power on  ::)  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/APB-next9.jpg)

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: funkycochise on March 01, 2009, 09:20:19 AM
so simple with a converter...  ::)

the image doesn't seem too bad.
maybe beacause the gap isn't that important between 24K and 31K monitors
than with 15K and 31K  :roll:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Superully on March 01, 2009, 09:33:37 AM
@bruno: do you have a room full of tv / computer monitors where you can always pick the one you need? it seems as if you your supply of spare parts like monitors or computers is ENDLESS ...  :shock:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 01, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
@bruno: do you have a room full of tv / computer monitors where you can always pick the one you need? it seems as if you your supply of spare parts like monitors or computers is ENDLESS ...  :shock:

Yes, I've some *spare* parts, like TV/monitor  ::) :P  :

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/spare-tv.jpg) 

 ;D
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Superully on March 01, 2009, 09:36:29 PM
oh my god, i can't believe that. did they fall off a truck or something? you're crazy, bruno. take this as a compliment!
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Sonic 1992 on March 02, 2009, 05:47:18 AM
Great Substitution!  Finding those vertical monitors must be hard!  (I guess those are no longer made either, huh?)   :'(

Great Work!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D


BTW,  I was always Fired, and thrown in the Trash Can LOL  :lol:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 07, 2009, 05:20:37 PM
And here's the final run  8)

Let's put back the bezel  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-3.jpg)

Let's find a good location for the video converter... mhhhh... why not here ...

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-1.jpg)

Yes! Easy access, just in case  :P

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-2.jpg)

Ok, it's time to put back the control panel.

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-4.jpg)

One of the bulb is broken...

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-5.jpg)

... the easiest fix on this cab  ;D  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-6.jpg)

..and guess what???

YES !!! THIS IS IT!!! NO MORE WORK TO DO ON THIS ONE  :-* :-* :-*


...just playing it of course  ;D

Ok, more pictures... 'on location' and 'in action'  8)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-7.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-8.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-9.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/atari-apb-10.jpg)

and... as usual...

THE SOUVENIR VIDEO FAN : (tm)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb-finaltube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQiZ239LC2M)
(pop up the volume and click on the picture to watch the video^^)


 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Sonic 1992 on March 08, 2009, 08:03:44 AM
Great Job!!

You're Under Arrest!!  :P :lol:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Zorg on March 08, 2009, 10:42:30 AM
Nuno, did you get the time to scan the backdoor sheet of the APB ?

Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: scr33n on March 08, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
Great resto Bruno.

I love the marquee effects (siren lights on top):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTSdwqvIIM

 :-* :-*

Bruno, your cab has this effect?
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 08, 2009, 06:41:17 PM
Nuno, did you get the time to scan the backdoor sheet of the APB ?

Not yet, but I'll do it next time I'll move that cab  ;) I'll let you know  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTSdwqvIIM
 :-* :-*
Bruno, your cab has this effect?

Nope  :-\ There is a small board inside the cab for that, but it's not working. I'll have to check it. For the moment, all the lights are on  :P

Here's the final touch ... the APB keyring  8)  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb-key1.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb-key2.jpg)

I try to catch one for each cab'  ::) :P
 
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Superully on March 08, 2009, 06:47:17 PM
Here's the final touch ... the APB keyring  I try to catch one for each cab'

 :) nice to see that we're doing the same thing. i also have a keyring for each indivual game (with the pictures taken from the arcadeflyers archive).
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: scr33n on March 08, 2009, 06:55:49 PM
Nuno, did you get the time to scan the backdoor sheet of the APB ?

Nope  :-\ There is a small board inside the cab for that, but it's not working. I'll have to check it. For the moment, all the lights are on  :P

Ah ok Bruno ... check it check it  :spaceace:


Here's the final touch ... the APB keyring  I try to catch one for each cab'

 :) nice to see that we're doing the same thing. i also have a keyring for each indivual game (with the pictures taken from the arcadeflyers archive).

Hey guys where I can buy these keyrings ?!?!?

I checked on Starcab.net but it's always out of stock  ???
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Superully on March 08, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
i buy them on ebay, for example here: http://cgi.ebay.de/50-Porte-cles-Taille-de-PHOTO-DE-PASSEPORT-35-45-mm_W0QQitemZ370163065124QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_JG_Collections_Porte_cles?hash=item370163065124&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.de/50-Porte-cles-Taille-de-PHOTO-DE-PASSEPORT-35-45-mm_W0QQitemZ370163065124QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_JG_Collections_Porte_cles?hash=item370163065124&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

bruno, where do you get yours?
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 10, 2009, 11:15:02 PM
bruno, where do you get yours?

www.starcab.net  8)
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 10, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 :arrow: NOTICE:This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled.

No more audio track on my youtube video  >:( Because of the song 'Bad Boys', under WMG license...

So here's the uncensored version, full size, full quality... including THE song that must be for this : BAD BOYS !!!  :P  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb-playme.jpg) (http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/apb/APB-ATARI.wmv)
(right click on picture, and save it before watching it... 30 MB / .wmf file)

 :spaceace:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on March 12, 2009, 08:04:54 PM
Here's the *alternate* version, with an other funny music & more 'in game' sounds  ;)  :arrow:

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/apb/apb-alternate.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgIeMJkdubY)

 :spaceace:
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Zorg on March 13, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Nuno, did you get the time to scan the backdoor sheet of the APB ?

Not yet, but I'll do it next time I'll move that cab  ;) I'll let you know  :)

thanks mate, I'll remind you from times to times
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on October 30, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
After almost one year of coma...after an (finally) easy fix, the APB is back to life! I'm happy to remove the *non working* notification  ;D  :arrow:

(http:///www.arcadelifestyle.net/apb/atari_apb_fixed.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: Belike on October 30, 2013, 09:14:24 PM
We have to arrange that DATE for next spring. ;D
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: guruguys on August 18, 2014, 04:49:00 AM
Did you ever get the lights on top to flash with the siren? I found an easy fix for it on my APB on this thread at KLOV: http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=139881


Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on August 18, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Did you ever get the lights on top to flash with the siren? I found an easy fix for it on my APB on this thread at KLOV: http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=139881

Woow, great! Thanks for that link  8)
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: joeks on April 23, 2016, 03:05:14 PM
Hi Bruno,

Great work on the APB using a EGA/CGA-to-VGA-adapter.
I am kind of in the same boat now with my Championship Sprint cabinet.
Want to try an connect it to my Photoplay VGA monitor. If it would work, great. Since the Photoplay monitors are 19" and have the same mounts as an original arcade monitor.

Here's a photo of my adapter board:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1610/26490888452_4c571e5977_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GmUJd5)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/GmUJd5) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

But I see you have more wires going into your converter (the white connector).
Do you happen to recall where they come from?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1526/26320401930_8e891a5140_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/G6QWvh)Screen Shot 2016-04-23 at 15.04.44 (https://flic.kr/p/G6QWvh) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35165513@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: DarthNuno on April 25, 2016, 09:55:06 PM
Just found this old picture. I guess it's the connector still used in my APB. On top the wiring going to the APB board, on the bottom, the wires going to the connector. Hope this can help.
Title: Re: :: A.P.B :: The cop is back in town *Work In Progress*
Post by: joeks on April 26, 2016, 10:05:43 AM
Thanks Bruno, so far it's correct.
But you have 8 wires going into the connector on the converter board, any idea where the extra two wires came from?
The connector on you last photo has 6 wires, same as coming from the video-out connector of the game board.