Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: DarthNuno on October 19, 2008, 09:50:45 PM
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Following this roadtrip :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/swpl.jpg) (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=454.0)
Let's start the renovation of this Pleiads cab'.
This is the official Spanish cabinet version for the game, done by Irecsa, under the Thekan/ Centuri (and Midway?) license.
I'll start with the control panel :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/cpobreak1.jpg)
As you can see on the picture :
- An hole has been drilled for an additional button
- I don't think it's the original joystick because the current one it a 4 ways and a bigger hole has been drilled to fix it
- The plexiglass is broken
:evil: :evil: :evil: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/cpobreak2.jpg)
OK, the first step is to do a high resolution of the control panel overlay (2 x 20MB .TIFF file) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/Cpo1small.jpg) (http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/pleiads/Cpo1.tif)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/Cpo2.small.jpg) (http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/pleiads/Cpo2.tif)
The 'vecto' work is already on the way by Nickos69 from the french website gamoover.net on this post (http://www.gamoover.net/Forums/index.php?topic=17345). Sneak Preview :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/cpotempo.png)
Many thanks to you Nickos69 for the great work done until now on this :-* :-* :-*
Because of the additional button added, I'm not able to read what's written of the fire button :-\
Can someone help me to guess what is the word written ? I presume it's a Spanish word ?!
D . . A R O
or
D . . . A R O ?
Any idea ?
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hi bruno
all the photos i can find of this game have two action buttons, fire and warp.
does yours definitely just need one
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Hi Polaris,
Nope, Pleiads has only one fire button :P
I presume you've seen some Phoenix cabs pictures, which have two buttons : one fore fire and one for the shield.
I would my cabinet has been modified in the past to play a two buttons game, most probably Phoenix. I can see the hack in the wires, the button added and its hole is different than the others buttons of the panel.
I guess Pheonix->Pleiads conversion was very easy to do at the time... same wires loom :P But the Pleiads to Phoenix required to add this extra button :oops:
Good news ;D I know what was written for the fire button :arrow: The missing letters are : I S P :arrow:
D I S P A R O
It just means 'Fire' in Spanish or Portuguese :D
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so you wanna keep the spanish words? or switching to english? :)
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so you wanna keep the spanish words? or switching to english? :)
Nope... As much original as possible ...I'll keep the spanish (or Portuguese?) words :spaceace:
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hi bruno
all the photos i can find of this game have two action buttons, fire and warp.
does yours definitely just need one
:spaceace:
Well, it's very strange... I don't recall to use that 'Warp' button on that game, but the manual mention that button.
I've just try the game via mame on my computer, but this 'Warp' button doesn't do anything during the play ???
I'm almost sure the panel of cab was supposed to have only one button, because the CPO mention only one fire button (the famous "DISPARO") :?
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Nope, Pleiads has only one fire button :P
Bruno, take a look - PLEIADS original control panel:
(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3724/pleiadscpav7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
but in Mame i've the same problem, Warp button doesn't work ??? ???
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When I played it as a kid in a converted Phoenix cabinet I remember the barrier/warp button would transport you to another part of the screen, a bit like the hyperspace button in Asteroids.
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This question of one or two buttons about this game is wired :oops:
Let's investigate :pac:
* On the US flyer of the game [CENTURI] :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-us.jpg)
...you can see two buttons for moving the ship to the left/right, and TWO buttons (fire and certainly a 'shield' or 'warp')
*On the EURO (and/or probably JAPANESE) flyer of the game [TEHKAN] :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-eur.jpg)
...it's a joystick for moving the ship, and I would say only one button for fire (difficult to see on the picture) ?!
My board is labeled Tehkan, and I know a lot of dedicated games for Europe were based on the Japanese version (ex : my Namco's Galaxian Theater, StarBlade, ...).
So I would say my Spanish version of Pleiads -like the Japanese one- has only one fire button ?!
...but ... but the coin door is also labeled Midway...which is US manufacturer of course... so what :shock: :-\
This cabinet would be a mix of everything... assembled by that Spanish label : Irecsa ?...
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Hey Bruno
i don't have a mame setup at the moment, why not try the different rom versions for comparison.
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Hey Bruno
i don't have a mame setup at the moment, why not try the different rom versions for comparison.
:spaceace:
Good idea :-* After testing in mame (0.119) I have the answer :arrow:
In the Centuri roms version, there is a *warp* button you can press during the play.
In the Tehkan roms, the warp button has no effect.
So, my board is a Tehkan, it confirms that the orginal panel has only ONE button for *fire* and no warp button 8)
The vecto of the CPO is now done :-* Many many thanks to Nickos69 for that great job :-* :-* :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/paneldone.jpg)
:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Let's do an overall view of the cab.
Here's the beast (don't pay attention about the mess in the new game room :oops:) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-1.jpg)
A part of the T-Molding is missing here :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-2.jpg)
It's a flat T-Molding without the 'T' :roll: Do you know where to found similar model by the way ?
The broken CPO plexiglass :(
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-3.jpg)
Both side arts are in great condition 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-5.jpg)
A small crack in the wood, hopefully in the back/ bottom of the cab :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-6.jpg)
The front side art, in a good condition :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-7.jpg)
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First thing to do... replacing the old monitor (which has serious synchro / colors problems :ghost:) by a *brand* new one.
Of course, I'll use a new TV with a full RGB ntsc signals of course (I love SCART ;D).
I just need to build a custom adapter RGB to SCART... easy stuff ::) :P ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv1.jpg)
Done 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv2.jpg)
I just need to replace the end of the original wires going to the monitor ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv3.jpg)
...by my SCART adapter.
My TV need a signal in order to swith to RGB. Let's find the correct voltage for the specific RBG pin... Got it 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv4.jpg)
Power on ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv5.jpg)
YATA !!!
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/yata.jpg)
It works fine :-* :-* :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv6.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/tv7.jpg)
I love RGB :-* :spaceace:
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hey bruno
why not get regular t mold and trim off the spine, would that work?
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First thing to do... replacing the old monitor (which has serious synchro / colors problems :ghost:)
That monitor wouldn't happen to be a Hantarex would it? I hear people don't like them much...
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why not get regular t mold and trim off the spine, would that work?
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Yeps, I could be an option, but because the original t mold is very narrow, I think using a piece of Atari vinyl (same as the one on Dragon's Lair cab') would be a good solution to try first. I just have to found back the roll in the 'mess' of my attic :oops: ;)
That monitor wouldn't happen to be a Hantarex would it? I hear people don't like them much...
Yes, it's an Hantarex, like the ones on most European cabinet.
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That monitor wouldn't happen to be a Hantarex would it? I hear people don't like them much...
Yes, it's an Hantarex, like the ones on most European cabinet.
What do you do with the old monitors? If you are trashing them, I could use some bits and pieces (like the white knobs from the pots)...
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What do you do with the old monitors? If you are trashing them, I could use some bits and pieces (like the white knobs from the pots)...
Well, I keep most of the monitor boards inside boxes because like you say, they contain some working parts that can be useful one day , but I also trash some of them (the worst ones) :?
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OK, it's time to fix the new TV.
I alway put a sticker on the CRT in order to remember the good orientation :P ::) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-1.jpg)
Brand new... this CRT will only display one game : PLEIADS 8) :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-2.jpg)
In order to protect the board, I've to fix a small wood plank... to avoid a contact between the board and the metal monitor frame :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-3.jpg)
Let's transfer all the stuff :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-4.jpg)
Operation ... successful :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-5.jpg)
On location :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-6.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-7.jpg)
Did I already say this ? I LOVE RGB :-* :-* :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-8.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-9.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-10.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades-11.jpg)
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lovely rgb pics... :-*
fun to see that we go both in the same electronic parts provider,
near liberty avenue :lol:
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lovely rgb pics... :-*
fun to see that we go both in the same electronic parts provider,
near liberty avenue :lol:
Yes, 'Secto' :-* I buy most of electronic parts over there. The guy sitting on the back is very nice (I don't remember his name :oops:). He knows what I'm doing with the electronic parts ;D ... and I already ask him to show me the best way to unsolder at chip on a Galaxian board :D You can talk him about arcade game ;D
Ok, now a quick cleaning of the bezel (very nice condition by the way) ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/bezel1.jpg)
... and voilà, on location :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/bezel2.jpg)
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An other thing to repair ... the coin door :twisted: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coindoor1.jpg)
As you can see, the fixation between the metal frame and the door is partially broken :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coindoor2.jpg)
It's a typical Midway coin door, but this one has some little differences (I'll show you in pictures l8ter).
Let's remove it.
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coindoor3.jpg)
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in case you didn't know bruno, the fixation is called a 'hinge' in english. you would say 'a door hangs on its hinges' ;)
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in case you didn't know bruno, the fixation is called a 'hinge' in english. you would say 'a door hangs on its hinges' ;)
:spaceace:
Thanks Polaris 8) Don't hesitate to correct me on other posts by the way (and especially in the home page of this website)... I don't want to look 'stupid' because I've not a good English :oops: :roll: ;D
:-* :-* :-*
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bruno, you never look stupid , you should read my belgian ;)
i appreciate you europeans posting in english or id have no chance :o
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...you should read my belgian ;)
I'm sure read you 'belgian' should be funny :D 'coz... that language doesn't exist ;) In Belgium we speak French or Flemish or German
:wink:
Here's the broken coin door :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-cd1.jpg)
It's a typical Midway coin door except... the fixation. On this one there is no screw?!. The door is soldered to the metal frame :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-cd2.jpg)
- the green arrow shows where it has been soldered (the fixation is ok here)
- the red arrows shows where it's now broken.
I won't be able to fix that, so I'll use an other standard Midway coin door + frame, exactly the same than this one ... and of course I want to use the *dedicated* Midway/Irecsa logo metal plate.
Here's the common method for removing the rivets on it :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-cd4.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIKA3EYwK5Y)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-cd3.jpg)
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LOL yep, shows how bad it would be, we had some belgians working on an ice rink i worked on, i made a no parking sign in french and they all laughed and ignored it saying they only understood flemish :D
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... made a no parking sign in french and they all laughed and ignored it saying they only understood flemish :D
:spaceace:
LOL... but caution ... There is an internal 'war' regarding the communities in Belgium ... Flemish vs French ... Sad but true :ghost:
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A last picture where you can see the broken frame of the coin door :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor1.jpg)
Because I cannot repair it, I'll use an other frame+coin door I have :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor2.jpg)
It is 100% similar but ... full of rust :twisted: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor3.jpg)
Ok, it won't be a problem but it just add more work :? Ok, let's start with the 'frame' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor5.jpg)
The rust has to be fully removed :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor6.jpg)
I'm using a Dremel to access some area, like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor7.jpg)
Like new :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-coindoor8.jpg)
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After the frame, let's give a second birth to this door :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-1.jpg)
Did 'ya say too much rust ? ::) Naaaaaaaa ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-2.jpg)
After removing all the parts, it's time for a bath :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-3.jpg)
After the rust, I've to remove the paint...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-4.jpg)
...both side please :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-5.jpg)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-6.jpg)
Time for a new paint... Primer first :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/coin/pleiades-7.jpg)
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I've seen this cab at the seller and I love (as always) what you're doing to it ;)
Best part is that the original board is working :)
I bought a Pleiads board at the fair where we met Bruno (at Luc's stand). It was the very board that was originally in my Pleiads cocktail.(also Tehkan). My God, talk about a game that I almost forget that I own.....it's in SUCH a bad shape ....really sad.....
O well, when the Gameroom's done we'll have a bit more time (although I'll finally finish Luc's SW cockpit first ! :) )
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Hi!
I registered here only to say: Awesome!!
I'm from Spain, and I didn't know this manufacturer, but sure it was a official license.
In that years, you can find a few versions of the same game (the official and bootlegs, with different desings cabs).
And even official licences has variations on the rom (texts, gameplay - usually to be harder/faster than original), but this seems like had no variation : still have the Tehkan (C) Maybe the gameplay here is the same than original.
And ... where you get this gem? Has Pesetas and Francs in the coin door
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Hi Davebizarro,
Thanks for taking time to register here :-*
It's amazing. I've NO information regarding that Spanish manufacturer 'Iresca' :-\ ...nothing can be founded on the web ... except some pictures of that cabinet (and not a generic picture of that cabinet, but THIS cabinet, the one I own now!).
Here's the story of that cab :
That game was located in an Arcade Museum / Pop Culture located in Belgium.
Here's some of the cabinets that were in that museum (now closed ... or without all these games) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_inside_museum.jpg)
The museum pages are still accessible by the way, here the url : http://soc.kuleuven.be/onderwijs/pop/videogames/museum.php
Few years ago, a collector from Netherlands bought all these games. So all these games were in Belgium...and as you''ll see... very great games in therms of Arcade History : Computer Space, Space Wars, Tapper,... and that treasures went to Netherlands....
So, I bought that cabinet to that collector, and bring the game back ... in Belgium (road trip here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=454.0) if you've missed it ;)).
I'm really curious to know if that 'manufacturer' made other cabinets ??? But I have no information :ghost:
Why Pleiads by the way ? I agree it's not a 'mainstream' game like Galaga, DK, ... BUT ...
...Well, I used to play that game back in the days. This game is a little bit underestimate, because it has been released in the same time than better 'shooter' game like ... Galaga by example. But I still really enjoy playing it... believe me... the sounds are so special, the shape of the aliens, the mother ship to destroy... and its final stage, when you must navigate around parked ships to hit landing pad right on :-* A lot of memories for me :)
Well, I Love It :-* :-* :-* ... and that's the reason why this specific workshop is especially important for me :P
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The two metal plates for the original coin doors are damaged :-[ :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-1.jpg)
I'll use two other ones, in better condition, but as you can see ... full of rust :o :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-2.jpg)
Rust in not a problem ... before preparing the 'anti-rust' bath, let's prepare all the items to be 'cleaned' :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-3.jpg)
This button 'coin reject' has to be cleaned too...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-4.jpg)
...but how to put an item like this inside the 'remove rust' bath, without dismantle everything ???
Like this :) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-5.jpg)
Of course, don't forget to put in the bath all the screws...
OK, after 24 hours inside that bath, it's time to clean up manually each parts.
I used to sand manually all the needed parts, but now... I've got a Dremel ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-6.jpg)
...and I can work faster, for a better result :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-7.jpg)
Remember the plate, so rusty ? Looks better now :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-8.jpg)
Of course, I put back the original Irecsa metal plate, and I put a new key / lock :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-9.jpg)
On location :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-10.jpg)
But hey, how can I play that fabulous game without the control panel ???
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-11.jpg)
Stay Tuned ::)
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Hi,
After see your posts, a few were discussing info about this company here:
http://www.marcianitos.org/foro/showthread.php?t=24067
(in post 9 there is some information, He says it was a manufacturer mayority of licenses from Midway, but other games too)
Maybe for not be a "mainstream" game, It wasn't released by other greater/known companies, like recreativos franco, sonic or petaco, and maybe this company take the license.
By other side, other games like Galaxian or Pacman were manufactured here by many companies (some with different titles, roms modifications, different cabinets designs, etc) I like for example, the cabinet designs from Recreativos Franco, they were more like japanese version instead US. versions of Pacman and Galaxian.
Thanks for save the cabinet and for restoring it!
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i Bruno,
About your rusty coin gate, You don't plan to paint them to definitely stop the rusting process ?
Else rust will come again and paint those lovely in a dusty red/orange/brown color... :roll:
I've some joystick plate that i cleaned in the wayyou did, after a few hours, rust is back again. :(
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About your rusty coin gate, You don't plan to paint them to definitely stop the rusting process ?
Else rust will come again and paint those lovely in a dusty red/orange/brown color... :roll:
Opss... Yes Pierre... :oops: ... It's a mistake, you're right.
So I remove these two metal plates + the 4 screws :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_vernis_1.jpg)
I'll use this product, in order to protect the parts from for rust :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_vernis_2.jpg)
...applying on the screws...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_vernis_3.jpg)
...and on the plates, both sides of course ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_vernis_4.jpg)
And back to the coin door :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_vernis_5.jpg)
According the notice of the product, the metal is supposed to be a little bit more 'shiny' but I don't notice it.
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Few years ago, a collector from Netherlands bought all these games. So all these games were in Belgium...and as you''ll see... very great games in therms of Arcade History : Computer Space, Space Wars, Tapper,... and that treasures went to Netherlands....
I always thought the Budweiser version of the Tapper cabinet was the coolest cabinet I've ever seen.
(http://www.klov.com/images/10/1074101229.jpg)
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I used to sand manually all the needed parts, but now... I've got a Dremel ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-metal-6.jpg)
Dremel :spaceace: :-* great addition, an excellent working tool - the best for small parts - I have to buy one too 8)
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Back to the control panel, remember :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb1.jpg)
...badly hacked with a generic 4 ways joystick :evil: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb2.jpg)
...plexi broken, a second button has been added...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb3.jpg)
Behind the panel, you can see the 4 original holes for the initial '2 way' joystick, and also the additional wires for the second button + up/down directions (because of the addition of a 4 ways joystick) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb4.jpg)
Well, a lot of work here... let's go ;)
Let's remove all the buttons + screws...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb5.jpg)
Left bath : rust remover, right bath : strong soap + water :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cpb6.jpg)
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OK, let's remove everything of the control panel.
This Pleiads panel includes three parts (from top to down)
- bezel in Plexiglas
- metal plate
- wood plate
See from the back :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_1.jpg)
Here's the *non original* 4 ways joystick :evil: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_2.jpg)
I'll replace that shit by a two ways /leaf : ball top one (coming from a Galaga panel) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_3.jpg)
Here's the metal structure of the panel :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_4.jpg)
Rusty...as usual :oops: ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_5.jpg)
Let's remove the rust on that, and also on the two way joystick. Because it's too big for a bath, I'm applying the 'rust remover' with a paintbrush :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_under_panel_6.jpg)
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Back on the 'wood part' of the control panel.
Here's the last view of the panel, and the UGLY non original 4-ways joystick! :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-1.jpg)
As already explained, the idea is to use this 2 ways joystick (leaf), that originally came from a Galaga :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-2.jpg)
...but as you can see, it doesn't fit the panel without an 'adaptation' ;) Let's get back an OLD friend... my router :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-3.jpg)
Now, it should be fine for that 2-way joystick :) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-4.jpg)
Quick test... yes ... it fits :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-5.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-6.jpg)
Let's draw four new holes in order to fix the new joystick :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-7.jpg)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-wood-8.jpg)
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...and of course, I've to test the joystick... I cannot resist to play *at least* the game :-* :-* :-*
Check this video :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-youtube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAz_te-mXg)
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Lovely. Pleiads is so underrated !
I mean, this is a 1981 game and it has 4 levels, scrolling, end-boss, you name it. And it's fun to play !
Must....try.....PCB.....in.......cocktail..........
:S
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Let's check how the '2-ways' joystick will be located on the 'plexi' panel :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match1.jpg)
Perfect! :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match2.jpg)
OK, as you can see, the original 'plexi' panel (including the overlay) is broken. Let's reproduce it!
Regarding the artwork, it has been already 'vectorized' :-* (see the beginning of this topic).
I've just meet Marc, a very kind person, who can do 'plexi' replica, close to my house (only 5 minutes). I show him the original one, and he said : ok, just give me the 1:1 model, and I'll replicate it :-*
Because don't want to replicate the *bad* things done by an operator on the panel in the past (like adding that lame 4 ways joystick, or adding a second button), I'll have to do a 'rectified' panel model 8)
So let's take a big sheet of heavy paper, and let's do the job ...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match3.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match4.jpg)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match6.jpg)
As you can see, only 1 push button for 'fire' or 'D I S P A R O' (see the first page of the topic ;))
Let's check if my model is correct ::) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match5.jpg)
A last check... Does the joystick hole will match ? What about the 1/2 and fire buttons ?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match7.jpg)
Yes!!! It should be right ;) I'm confident :) So let's give this paper model to Marc... and cross the fingers :-*
Until the new panel will be ready... let's play this great game :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match8.jpg)
... even better ... let's score on it :P ;D
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiades_match9.jpg)
17470 so far ... what is the world record ::) :P ... OK ... let's continue to practice then :P
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Back on the metal panel :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_metal_clean_1.jpg)
I'm using the same method to remove the paint on it... drill equipped like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_metal_clean_2.jpg)
... and I finish the job with this cheap sander (note : I use finish manually for small parts, but not for this one) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_metal_clean_3.jpg)
OK, now let's paint it.
The primer first :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_metal_clean_4.jpg)
2 layers! And now let's use the semi gloss black... first layer :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_metal_clean_5.jpg)
Ok, while it's drying, let's fix the T-Molding problem. Remember, a part of the T-molding is missing :-\ :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_1.jpg)
This T-molding, or just the 'molding' (without the T) because there's no 'trench' :P, is very similar than the Atari black vinyl used for Dragon's Lair cabinet and others cab' ... Luckily, it still have very small parts :-* :-* :-* Look 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_2.jpg)
Let's compare the original 'T-molding' with this Atari vinyl ::) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_3.jpg)
Cool :) :-* As you can see... both are VERY similar :-* :-* :-* The only difference is the thickness. The original is a little bit thick than the vinyl, but it'll do the job for me :) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_4.jpg)
Ok, so let's fix the vinyl. I've added a little bit of super glue. I want to be sure that the vinyl won't get away ;) I put a bigger part then needed, and I cut like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_5.jpg)
Looks great now :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_tmolding_6.jpg)
You can see the difference between the original 't-molding' and the black vinyl on the previous picture because I've used a flash, but when you are in front of the cab with normal lightening, it looks great ;)
:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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The lock is missing on the back door :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_backdoor_1.jpg)
Let's put a new one...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_backdoor_2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_backdoor_3.jpg)
When I got the cabinet, the back door was maintained by a big part of scotch. That explain why a part of the gray color is gone...
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When 'on', the marquee is a little bit 'yellow' :-\
This is the reason... check out the back of it :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_1.jpg)
Let's try to clean that with just water + soap... looks better now :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_2.jpg)
... but I have to be very careful... because here's what happen if I push/clean to hard on the back part :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_3.jpg)
Anyway, it's far better now :-* :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_4.jpg)
Because the game is on, I've to play it of course ::) :P :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_5.jpg)
I've increased my high score :arrow: 22580 PTS :P
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_marquee_clean_6.jpg)
:D :spaceace:
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That marquee looks saweeet !
Also good work on the "custom" t-molding, that's the same reason I rarely throw anything away, you never know what you can use it for in the future :) (Wife is not always happy with it though ! :D).
Where did you get that Atari vinyl ? Is it similar to the vinyl on the SW cockpit ?
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Thanks André :-*
I got the vinyl from Jason in UK... I've used it first in order to restore the Space Ace cab :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/spaceace/firstside1.jpg)
I don't remember if it's was a piece of original Atari NOS vinyl, or if it was the famous Black Vinyl (Morocco style) available on QuaterArcade (http://www.quarterarcade.com/Game.aspx/4479), I'll ask to Jason.
It's basically the same than all you can find on mostly Atari cab who have black vinyl.
I've also used it on for Time Pilot, on the top of the cabinet :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/timepilot/marq7.jpg)
...and now on the Pleiads :P
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Finally got the PLEIADS CPO repro 'back printed' :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleaids_CPO_1.jpg)
Did 'ya say accurate ? YES !!! :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleaids_CPO_2.jpg)
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The control panel reproduction is ready :-* :-* :-*
Check the pattern I've done in heavy paper, and the final production 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_0.jpg)
It's not Plexiglas... arggg I didn't remember the name :oops: ... it's a little bit more flexible than Plexiglas... and it's unbreakable 8)
Before applying the control panel overlay...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_2.jpg)
...let's put some clear water on the control panel :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_1.jpg)
Let's apply the overlay (back printed, remember) :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_3.jpg)
After removing water + air bubbles and cutting around the panel's borders :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_4.jpg)
This is not over! Because it has been back printed, the overlay is transparent, and of course, I don't want a transparent panel (even if it would be a nice effect, like Tron with a neon under it ::) :P).
So let's cut a piece of heavy white vinyl :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_5.jpg)
After that 'new layer' applied, once again, let's remove water + air bubbles :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_6.jpg)
And...
The final product :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_7.jpg)
:-* :-* :-*
The old one... and the new one ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_control_panel_8.jpg)
The only slight difference, at first sight, would be the dark color... not as deep dark as the original... but for the rest... it looks ACCURATE :)
Now the big question, does that new control panel will fit the metal panel ? Do the holes for screws, buttons, joytick will fit ?
Stay tuned ::) ;D
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Where did you get this printed ? Looks like a nice job on the printing.
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I've worked with Marc from B-Kolors (http://www.b-kolors.be/), a local shop close to me (3 minutes :-*)
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The control panel 'in metal' is now fully painted :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleaids-last-cp1.jpg)
'A complete history about a panel...' :P :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleaids-last-cp2.jpg)
Let's cut the CPO inside the holes, from the back of the panel :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleaids-last-cp3.jpg)
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a question about the original control panel:
It seems the second button was added later right? Even there isn't a legend to the second button. (the are legends for Fire - Disparo and Start - Arranque, but not for the second button)
Had you tested if this version of pleaids works the second button for warp? or has no effect?
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a question about the original control panel:
It seems the second button was added later right? Even there isn't a legend to the second button. (the are legends for Fire - Disparo and Start - Arranque, but not for the second button)
Had you tested if this version of pleaids works the second button for warp? or has no effect?
Yes... I've tried that second button... no effect at all...
That is the reason I didn't put it on the CPO/bezel repro, and also because there's no mention about this second button on the original overlay.
There's only : Disparo & Arranque 8)
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A big moment 4 me... the entire control panel is ready :)
Let's quickly put it on location... and see how it looks :roll: :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end1.jpg)
Yesss! Perfect!
Just a note here... as I said previously, I keep only one button... I choose the left one, from the two already drilled on the metal control panel, in order to see the (famous) word : 'DISPARO' :) So the fire (DISPARO) button is on the left of the text, but I'm fine with that 8)
Last thing to do... make the original screws shine like their first day :) Usual mushrooms pictures ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end2.jpg)
Done :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end3.jpg)
Now, it time to see if the pattern I've done for the holes for the reproduction bezel will match :
1) the existing holes in the wood panel
2) the existing holes in the metal panel
???
YEAH BABY YEAH :-* :-* :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end5.jpg)
OK, the final, but really final thing to do :roll: ... fixing the control panel ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end6.jpg)
Yehawwww :)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end10.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end9.jpg)
This cabinet looks like new now :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end7.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end11.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_the_end8.jpg)
Now... take a seat, some chips & Dr Peppers... put the volume to the max, and enjoy this new VIDEO :D (don't miss the gameplay at the end!) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-youtube2.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ixAerG0hL8)
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Yeahhhh Bruno, love it!!! Great job like always :spaceace: :spaceace: The panel is like new :-*
One question .... Can you tell me the title and the artist of the second song of the video? (I remember it, beautiful, but I don't remember the title ???) I was 13-14 (1986-87 possible??)
Thanks!!!
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Thanks Screen ;) :-*
OK, songs from this video :
- KOTO 'Jabdah'
- Transvision vamp 'I Want Your Love'
...so 80's ::) :P :-* :-* :-*
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Yesss Thank you !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygvg3E54mg
I was 15 (1988) ....... those were the days :-* :-* :'( ........ not bad the girl, that's why I remember this song :lol: :wink:
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Yesss Thank you !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygvg3E54mg
I was 15 (1988) ....... those were the days :-* :-* :'( ........ not bad the girl, that's why I remember this song :lol: :wink:
Yes, she is ...WONDERFUL :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/transvision.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygvg3E54mg)
:P :-* :-* :-*
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congrats bruno, great job and another wonderful restore. the cab looks fabulous, although I would have changed the control panel overlay and put the fire button above the "disparo". but editing an existing control panel overlay so that it fits perfectly is a strenuous job. i know what i'm talking about, i'm in the middle of "editing hell" for my pleaids control panel right now. wait for the result to pop up on "my" pleiads thread.
but once again: CONGRATS ON A JOB WELL DONE!!!
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Hey Bruno!!!
CONGRATS on your new cab......I Love Pleiads! I have that on my cocktail Moon Cresta cab its totally KOOOOOOOL
Great Job as always!!!
The Giddygoon
P.s I not been in touch for a while now.....I'm moving soon and I have to work out how to move five arcade machines at once without damaging them.......any ideas or hints?????
Take care
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Welcome back Giddygoon :-* :-* :-*
...I'm moving soon and I have to work out how to move five arcade machines at once without damaging them.......any ideas or hints?????
Well, you can use bubble wrap, like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/jedi/jedi-bubble.jpg)
...or cardboard, like this :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pacmania/pacmania_6.jpg)
Take care :-*
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Got the molding ... without the T ... looks the same than the original... thanks Superully :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/strategy1.jpg)
...oh and... I also got few very interesting books, including "How to master the video Games" ... features a chapter about Pleiads ;D :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/strategy2.jpg)
...I'm gonna break my high score soon ;D ;)
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good to hear that IT has arrived. :) what are the titles of the other books?
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... and the Pleiads flyer *Spanish version by Irecsa* is now available worldwide, right here (http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=thumbs&db=videodb&id=6572). 8)
Thanks again to Gyruss for the help ;)
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Had a go at Pleiads last night after being inspired by this thread. Great game, and your cab looks stunning! :spaceace:
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Yeah, very cool game, the score layout and colors on the top are similar with Phoenix. :D
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Got the molding ... without the T ... looks the same than the original... thanks Superully :-* :-* :-*
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/strategy1.jpg)
...and more than three years ( :oops:) after receiving that piece 't-Molding', it's time to replace my temporary fix (a piece of black vinyl that comes off all the time :?)...
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-tmolding-1.jpg)
...by a more accurate one! :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-tmolding-2.jpg)
I'll use super glue to avoid any problem on that 'curve'... and voilà 8) :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads-tmolding-3.jpg)
Ready for the 'cade12! ;D
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Loved the Pleiads, it's a underrated and fun game !
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Back from the Eurocade 2012, where you can see the full report here :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/news/eurocade2012.jpg) (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3863)
...before getting back the cabinet inside the game room, I cannot resist to take pictures of the beast in the natural light :-* :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cabinet_arcade_1.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cabinet_arcade_2.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cabinet_arcade_3.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cabinet_arcade_4.jpg)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/pleiads/pleiads_cabinet_arcade_5.jpg)
8)
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That's a beautiful looking cabinet, love the side art!
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OOOps, I totally missed these pics. :oops:
Looking great in the light, it was the 2nd most played cab by me after Dk at Eurocade. :D
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That's a beautiful looking cabinet, love the side art!
agreed, but i'd fix those broken corners ... 8)
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That would require disassembling the entire cab....and all the artwork is near mint on it.....I can understand why Bruno leaves it, it's on the backside too.
I hate corner damage. You can only fix it by doing the entire side which often means repro side art which is expensive and a waste if the rest of the sides are still perfect or near perfect....
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That would require disassembling the entire cab....and all the artwork is near mint on it.....I can understand why Bruno leaves it, it's on the backside too.
no, just put the cabinet on its sides and bondo it. fresh layer of paint on top of it - done! of course noone will ever see that once the game is "installed" in the gameroom, but who's going to notice rusted screws which have been replaced by shiny fresh ones?
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Yeps, fixing the broken corners would be the final fix to be done, but it's so annoying than that push the job very far in my 'to do' priority jobs list :P
The good news is ... I still have the sample color bottle provided by Ully that should match the blue of my cabinet, so I should easily do the fix when the time will come... 8)