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Title: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on July 15, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/news/Zolgear_Dragoon.jpg)

Now that my Galaxian Theater is fully running ('Zolgear' equipped), I would like to switch to "Project Dragoon" mission!

I have spare boards that includes Project Dragoon roms + Dragoon LD

Here's the list of all boards in the Galaxian Theater ->

Personal PCB x 3

1) CRAM
2) MASTER CPU
3) RSO
4) SOUND
5) SLAVE CPU
6) OBJ
7) PGN
8 ) DSP
9) OBJ #2
10) PGN #2
11) DSP #2
12) VMIX

On these boards, I would like to know on which ones do I have to swap rom?

Many thanks for your help.  UGSF JAPAN Team pleasssse?  ::) ;)


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on August 05, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
Yess!!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/various/GoDragoon.jpg)


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: Nic-fryer on August 06, 2013, 08:51:44 AM
Yess!!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/various/GoDragoon.jpg)

That's it?!?!? That's unlike you to not have progress pics  :'( ;)



Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on August 06, 2013, 08:21:20 PM
That's it?!?!? That's unlike you to not have progress pics  :'( ;)

LOL, of course I'll provide all the details, but for now, I just wanted to share with you this exclusive video when the Galaxian Theater successfully started the 'Project Dragoon' setup for the very first time, after an entire afternoon of work, stress and hopes! ;) It was yesterday, Monday the 5th of August 2013  8)  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/forforum3/dragoon-tube.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9qrp9SNYLk)

More to come, stay tuned!



Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: johnsarcade on August 06, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
Those things are BEASTS! A family of four could live in one!  ::) ::) So cool you have such a GIANT game that works!


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on August 08, 2013, 07:39:19 PM
OK, so here's what I've done to switch back from 'Attack Of The Zolgear' to 'Project Dragoon' mission.
I won't list all my mistakes here, I've done many ( :oops:) during some testing/understanding/adapting/retrying actions...  ;D
I didn't have any procedure, just the general idea to replace all 'Zolgear' roms by 'Dragoon' ones, and of course, switching the two laser discs...praying the lord Crom, and see what's happening!  :P

So, along all the boards inside the Galaxian3 Theater6, here's the ones who have dedicated 'Zolgear' roms :

Personal PCB #1 -> no
Personal PCB #2 -> no
Personal PCB #3 -> no
CRAM PCB -> no
MASTER CPU PCB -> yes
RSO PCB -> yes/no...not sure ::)
SOUND PCB -> yes
SLAVE CPU PCB -> yes
OBJ PCB #1 -> yes
PGN PCB #1 -> no
DSP PCB #1 -> yes
OBJ PCB #2 -> yes
PGN PCB#2 -> no
DSP PCB #2 -> yes
VMIX PCB -> no

So, the Zolgear ->Dragoon roms 'switch' should be done on 'only' seven (or 'eight') boards?
What is great at this point is ... I think I have enough spare boards to avoid roms switching!  :)

Let's take few pictures before touching anything at this point. Here's you can see the full content of the PCB BOX2, where the 7(or 8) boards to work on are located :

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_1.jpg)

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_2.jpg)

OK, now let's remove the boards concerned by the roms 'swap'.

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_3.jpg)

removed here  :arrow:

MASTER CPU PCB
RSO PCB
SOUND PCB

...and ...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_4.jpg)

removed here  :arrow:

SLAVE CPU PCB
OBJ PCB #1
DSP PCB #1
OBJ PCB #2
DSP PCB #2

Now, let's check in my spare boards box if I can find these 8 boards, but also If I have all the 'Dragoon' roms available to 'populate' all these 8 boards! ...YES, I have enough boards and all the roms needed! It means that I won't touch anything on my current set of Zolgear *working* boards!  :)

Now let's plug my spare boards *Dragoon* equipped!

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_5.jpg)

...and ...and ...of course, the game didn't boot so easily! :roll: So let me list the several problems I've encounter (personal memo for future interventions) :

* No boot : all the CPU MASTER board leds are on and they don't blink, no activity on the CPU SLAVE board.
Cause : cannot communicate with RAM board (impossible, I didn't change the RAM board) or fail to discuss with the CPU SLAVE board.
Solved like this : All the jumpers for CPU MASTER & SLAVE were configured like the ones on the ZOLGEAR boards, which is apparently a mistake. Thanks to the manual (related to 'Project Dragoon'), I've set the correct jumpers position!

* cursor player movements from the gunner #3 & #4  position ...were inverted! I mean, when I moved the flight yoke to the left, it moved the cursor to the right!!! In the 'controls' check via the operator setup menu, no problem at all, but during a game, the moves were inverted, and only for player 3 & 4! Amazing!

The 3 'Personal PCB' are responsible for the player controls management :

Personal PCB #1  : Gunner 1 & 2
Personal PCB #2  : Gunner 3 & 4
Personal PCB #3  : Gunner 5 & 6

So I tried to swap these 3'Personal PCB' each other (they are all similar), but the problem stayed located on gunner position 3 & 4!

Solved like this : I've put back the RSO board used in the previous 'Zolgear' setup, because I've seen in the manual that board 'communicates with the Personal PCBs and the  laser disk players', and it solved that *strange* problem! So yeah...BINGO...problem solved! The RSO spare I've used is maybe defect? At last it proves me that the RSO board isn't using specific game roms and it work whatever the roms used!

Anyway, now here's what I can see... and ... which game I can play  :-* :-* :-*  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_6.jpg)

Project Dragoon, ladies & gentleman, PROJECT DRAGOON!!!  :-* :-* :-*

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_8.jpg)

So here's the final list of boards 'Dragoon roms equipped' to swap for playing that mission :

MASTER CPU PCB
SOUND PCB
SLAVE CPU PCB
OBJ PCB #1
DSP PCB #1
OBJ PCB #2
DSP PCB #2

You can see on the following picture these 7 boards 'Zolgear roms equipped' laying on the top of the middle PCB rack...

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_7.jpg)

...now safety stored in a box  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/G3/dragoon/Zolgear_to_Dragoon_9.jpg)

It means that If I want to play 'Attack Of The Zolgear' mission again, it'll take me less than... let's say 15 minutes to remove the 7 boards 'Dragoon equipped' and put pack these 7 boards 'Zolgear equipped', now safe in the box :) Oh, and of course swapping the two LD inside the 2 LD players.

 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: slowcade on August 08, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
Wow! I'm almost speechless! I want so much to visit you some time and play this!  :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: Level42 on August 08, 2013, 11:28:51 PM
Brilliant :)


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on August 08, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
Thanks guys, videos coming up...  8)


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: scr33n on August 09, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Thanks guys, videos coming up...  8)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!


Title: Re: From Zolgear to Project Dragoon...
Post by: DarthNuno on August 09, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
And the video, also published in my main 'Galaxian Theater saga' (here (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=231.0)), to be watched in HD of course...  :arrow:

(http://www.arcadelifestyle.net/forforum3/Dragoon-tube2.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xngRAh7L6Ak)

 8)