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General Chat => Dragon's Lair / Space Ace => Topic started by: ARCADESAVER on January 22, 2013, 11:42:09 PM



Title: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 22, 2013, 11:42:09 PM
I start now to build my own Dragonīs Lair, arcade machine.
Start with the hardware and software.
I use a Pentium 4 with 3,3 GHz, for the open GL option a ATI Radeon x1600 and 60 GB OCZ Vertex 2.
today i show you the final hardware setup, with boot sequence.
I build a metal cage for all the components so i am sure i got no disorders in other electronic parts.
The fans are not so loud in real as it sounds in this video.
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/y-dHLQWKcZQ/mqdefault.jpg) (http://youtu.be/y-dHLQWKcZQ)

Tomorrow i got the last parts to build the repro of the score board. i give a report with photos when itīs done :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: Derezz on January 23, 2013, 11:06:54 AM
Cool! Good luck with your project!


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: DarthNuno on January 23, 2013, 05:57:36 PM
OS is Windows XP, isn't it?
Nice you removed the OS loading screen by the 'DL side art' image :) (It's just a file to replace I presume?)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 23, 2013, 07:38:39 PM
OS is Windows XP, isn't it?
Nice you removed the OS loading screen by the 'DL side art' image :) (It's just a file to replace I presume?)


almost, you need a program called "bootskin"
http://www.stardock.com/products/bootskin/

here a little explanation / tutorial:
http://www.wincustomize.com/article/97764

or if youre lazy like i am, a video  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlp46r2960o


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: DarthNuno on January 23, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Thanks Etienne  :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 23, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
No problem, i guess your DL will have a custom bootimage soon ?  ::)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 23, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Yes right Etienne u can use this tool, but i use the editor and change it self, it is not so difficult as the most think.
You must only take the picture what u like, open it with CS, Gimp or what ever and change the size to 640x480 and save it as BMP with only 16 colors under c:/windows as boot.bmp
After this start edit and open as admin the boot.ini. Seek the command line  [operating systems]
You must complete the entry here at the end, to type in /bootlogo/noguiboot
After this save the boot.ini restart your system and enjoy your new bootlogo :)

Hope my english is good enough to understand what i mean :s


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: DarthNuno on January 23, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
No problem, i guess your DL will have a custom bootimage soon ?  ::)

Nope, my DL runs the original hardware, but not my Space Ace and other games too! This will look far better  8)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: Level42 on January 24, 2013, 12:05:25 AM
OS is Windows XP, isn't it?
Nice you removed the OS loading screen by the 'DL side art' image :) (It's just a file to replace I presume?)


almost, you need a program called "bootskin"
http://www.stardock.com/products/bootskin/

here a little explanation / tutorial:
http://www.wincustomize.com/article/97764

or if youre lazy like i am, a video  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlp46r2960o


Isn't this something all IT guys already know........................................ ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

I have a cool Atari 8 bit splash screen on my old Windows XP machine :P


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 24, 2013, 07:30:23 AM
Nice you use the original hardware :) :)  
i have the Laserdisc from 1991, but no player, i look around for one, but canīt find a player with the rs32 interface that work with daphne :(
have someone a idea where i can find one?

yesterday i get the imc7218d controller chip for the score board... but the dealer send only one from two what i have order.
I hope i get the second chip soon. i donīt start to build the cabinet before the hardware is not 100% set and run.

Ahhh yeess and one problem i have, maybe someone can help me, i need the dimensions for the control panel, with all holes for the buttons and the stick, i look in web to find it but donīt find anything :(


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 24, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
PERFECT, all parts here now :) canīt await to start the work.....
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/558206_203463929792454_1761137185_n.jpg)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 25, 2013, 11:14:32 PM
Day one on the score board:

First cut the PCB to the right size and set the segment LED displays:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/74121_204537313018449_453158519_n.jpg)

Schematics and the first jumpers, problem is, the new digits have not the same pin in, so i must set all new, hope i do all right at last or it makes fump :D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/778858_204537483018432_1653939965_o.jpg)

Six hours later, all jumper to the digits for player 1 and 2 lives and player 1 score are set, i am tired now, my eyes burn and i stop the work for this day.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295348_204537579685089_1426949532_n.jpg)
To be continued....


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: Muerto on January 26, 2013, 08:15:57 AM
really really cool!!!!!


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey :D
Post by: ARCADESAVER on January 29, 2013, 12:12:23 PM
The score Board is ready now and works fine now:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321331_206467366158777_436736613_n.jpg)

And here in action:

(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/mMM3ayCOlio/mqdefault.jpg) (http://youtu.be/mMM3ayCOlio)

Yet now i start the works on the cabinet... to be continued :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... NEED HELP PLEASE!!! :(
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 11, 2013, 09:12:50 PM
I start to build the cabinet, but it seams the plans what i use are not all right :(
So i need help now. It seams the size disclosures for the both plates from the top are not right, i need the dimensions from the top plate and the plate what is under the marquee and the scoreboard.
Maybe here is someone that not life far away from me and it is possible that i can take a look on his DL Cabinet ant take the dimensions.
If got the plans from jakobud and i am sure there is something wrong with the marquee detail.

Here i am with he work:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/858158_214457242026456_367338625_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/859348_214455312026649_240111128_o.jpg)

Greetz Mark


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... NEED HELP PLEASE!!! :(
Post by: Muerto on February 12, 2013, 06:07:57 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/858158_214457242026456_367338625_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/859348_214455312026649_240111128_o.jpg)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... NEED HELP PLEASE!!! :(
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 12, 2013, 07:45:37 AM
Sorry Muerto, i fix the images now.
The plan sya i need a offset from the side part from 2,6"
But when i set the top plate on this, the offset looks to big  ???


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... NEED HELP PLEASE!!! :(
Post by: DarthNuno on February 12, 2013, 10:39:46 PM
I start to build the cabinet, but it seams the plans what i use are not all right :(
So i need help now. It seams the size disclosures for the both plates from the top are not right, i need the dimensions from the top plate and the plate what is under the marquee and the scoreboard.
Maybe here is someone that not life far away from me and it is possible that i can take a look on his DL Cabinet ant take the dimensions.
If got the plans from jakobud and i am sure there is something wrong with the marquee detail.

Well, you're welcome to inspect my DL cabinets, but they all are the Atari Euro version, and I think the Jakobud 'inspiration' is coming from the US Cinematronic model. Not sure what are all the differences precisely, but I'm sure the control panel is different regarding its fixations and so maybe other parts/size? Anyway I'm located in South Belgium, but I hope they are at least few 'lucky' Dragon's Lair/Space Ace (same cabinets) owners in Germany that may?


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... NEED HELP PLEASE!!! :(
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 13, 2013, 10:10:10 AM
Thanks Bruno :) Maybe someone can take a folding rule on the wooden parts in the marquee area and make a photo, i think more i donīt need :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 26, 2013, 09:49:23 PM
Update, here i am now :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75537_220683401403840_798802691_n.jpg)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: DarthNuno on February 26, 2013, 10:00:36 PM
 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 27, 2013, 07:34:43 AM
:)
Is it possible, that i tape the sideart to high  ???


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: Tyrem on February 27, 2013, 03:05:23 PM
:)
Is it possible, that i tape the sideart to high  ???

yeah.. definately... iīd say 10 to 15cm... if i measure it with my eyes... but it sill looks very good.


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: Superully on February 27, 2013, 05:59:16 PM
don't know if it's too high, but it definitely looks titled!!!


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 27, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
Ty you both  ;D
Hmmm iīm not sure to pull it down and set a new on it  :-\


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: DarthNuno on February 27, 2013, 10:34:57 PM
:)
Is it possible, that i tape the sideart to high  ???

Well, it's often seen applied lower than that but ...

"I used to work at Cinematronics during the build of Dragon's Lair, along with my buddies, freshly graduated from High School, summer of '83.
I can tell you that the side art was applied by an 18 year old kid, with no specific instructions on how to do it, other than "do it fast and move on to the next one".
So, there is no definite answer to your question. Simply place where you think it looks best."
-Shaun

(source on DLP (http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/community/forums/board/forum_posts.asp?TID=60509))

 So... ;)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 28, 2013, 08:33:30 AM
 ;D Ok ok , i think it is ok than  ;D
Thanks  :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: Tyrem on February 28, 2013, 08:40:37 AM
:)
Is it possible, that i tape the sideart to high  ???

Well, it's often seen applied lower than that but ...

"I used to work at Cinematronics during the build of Dragon's Lair, along with my buddies, freshly graduated from High School, summer of '83.
I can tell you that the side art was applied by an 18 year old kid, with no specific instructions on how to do it, other than "do it fast and move on to the next one".
So, there is no definite answer to your question. Simply place where you think it looks best."
-Shaun

(source on DLP (http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/community/forums/board/forum_posts.asp?TID=60509))

 So... ;)

lol. great story. so the sidearts on your machine are absolutely fine. :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... UPDATE
Post by: ARCADESAVER on February 28, 2013, 08:42:37 AM
yes i guess  ;D

One question i have left. Is the original Dragonīs Lair machine mono or stereo?
Daphne runs in stereo, on the left channel i hear the beep sounds and on the right the ldp sound, is that properly?


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... endīs soon finish is so near :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on March 11, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
So, the finish is close :)
Only the Score Board Plexie and the coin-in slot is missing than i finish my work on my Dragonīs Lair.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537675_226589834146530_584579760_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/63200_226589860813194_647432932_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301595_226589890813191_1323757031_n.jpg)

When the Coin slot is set and the plexie to, i make a video with a lot of pictures from this odyssey.

Thank you all here, they help me.
Thankīs to my wife and child's, that they give me the time to build my dream :)


Next is a DL II, maybe this year or 2014 :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... endīs soon, finish is so close :)
Post by: DarthNuno on March 12, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
A great achievement! Now enjoy your work... and save Daphne!  ;)

 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... endīs soon, finish is so close :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on March 13, 2013, 06:42:39 AM
Thanks Bruno :)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... endīs soon, finish is so close :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on March 18, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
The score Board :)
First i wanna buy a original or repro from ther sb plexie in the USA, but than i think i build all at home, why not the SB to.
First step was to make the overlay on the computer:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/893897_229084857230361_166561415_o.jpg)
Than the speaker grille and at last a 5mm thick plexie.
Here now my homemade SB Plexie:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576945_229083977230449_60979541_n.jpg)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on March 24, 2013, 01:28:39 PM
Itīs done, my Dragonīs lair is ready now and ready to play.
This is a video where u can see more steeps of work i put on this project.

(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/2KrA1EaWw-U/mqdefault.jpg) (http://youtu.be/2KrA1EaWw-U)


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: scr33n on March 24, 2013, 02:51:40 PM
Congratulations!!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: Muerto on March 24, 2013, 03:08:59 PM
Amazing work!!!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: ARCADESAVER on March 24, 2013, 03:18:07 PM
I am proud about your congratulations   :)
Thank you very much


Title: Re: My Dragonīs Lair odyssey... Itīs all done :)
Post by: shrunkenmaster on March 24, 2013, 03:21:02 PM
Excellent work, especially the score board! Congratulations from the UK!!!