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Title: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 10, 2012, 12:40:43 AM
I started working on it a week or two ago.
At first I thought I have only to repaint something and repair the left side as it is/was water damaged.

In the end I'm rebuilding it from the ground up. I've NEVER done any wood works, but I think it's going well.


What game is it?
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: polderarcade on November 10, 2012, 01:55:18 AM
hard / race driving ???
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 10, 2012, 04:13:32 AM
it's HARD man, it's HARD...

But it will become a Race Drivin' in the end
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: DarthNuno on November 10, 2012, 08:14:32 AM
Another great project to follow, yesss!  :)

 :spaceace:
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: level42 on November 10, 2012, 09:24:52 AM
Sigh.....you don't see HD cockpit restore projects for years....and now I sold mine they pop up here and on KLOV......

Oh well, good to see these get the love they deserve !!! It's such an awesome piece of hardware and a game that set was groundbreaking in its technology. Not everybody likes is because of its reality but IMHO that is the very reason it's such a good machine.

Will follow this closely ! May I suggest adding the name of the game to the thread name because well...there are more resto threads here :)
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: baritonomarchetto on November 10, 2012, 09:44:44 AM
Dude, a lot of work is needed there! Was it left under the rain?  :'( :D

Take your time and dont give up!
Title: Re: Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 11, 2012, 02:10:52 AM
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Sigh.....you don't see HD cockpit restore projects for years....and now I sold mine they pop up here and on KLOV......

The thread on KLOV motivate me, and I started without thinking too much, so I don't take too not much pics...

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Oh well, good to see these get the love they deserve !!! It's such an awesome piece of hardware and a game that set was groundbreaking in its technology. Not everybody likes is because of its reality but IMHO that is the very reason it's such a good machine.

It's a GREAT machine and not a standard game. It's hardware it a lovly piece of engineering!!! The seat pivot, lever and it's idea are not found in any other game that didn't cost a fortune.

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Will follow this closely ! May I suggest adding the name of the game to the thread name because well...there are more resto threads here :)

Done it. My idea was to rename the thread as soon someone found out what game it was... I hate you polderarcade :P

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Dude, a lot of work is needed there! Was it left under the rain?  Cry Cheesy


Some other pics...
More or less it was under a shed for at least 10 years, VERY close to the sea.
The problem is the type of wood they used, I have a MK that is keeping together by the monitor frame. It was in the same shed and collapsed thanks to humidity!!!
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 15, 2012, 03:51:42 AM
It is in better shape now....
After that pic (2 days ago) I have removed all the item I have put on to do a test and started cleaning the part that need to be painted.
I hope that tomorrow I can put the control panel/monitor base on and start to paint it.
I can work max 1 hour a day on it, so the progress is SLOW.
I have made a measurement mistake caused by the old damaged side and my lack of experience, but I can work it out easly, but I have to do it before the paint job
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ataritoobin on November 15, 2012, 08:02:22 AM
Wow!  Looking good  8)
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 15, 2012, 09:20:40 AM
wow ! , did you sand it down, or is that new wood ?
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 16, 2012, 02:29:59 AM
In that pics EVERY single pieces of wood is new  ::)  :shock:
The only old part I will use are:
-the front of control panel (second pics here, upsidedown...)
-the monitor base
-the backdoor
-the part over the door
-marquee

the old wood was too damaged to be used again.

In other news I have sanded it down and applied the primer.
tomorrow more sanding and painting.

Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 16, 2012, 06:03:21 AM
hehe, we have a new Scr33n overhere  :D

Looking great Any !
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: level42 on November 16, 2012, 07:26:29 AM
There are still some NOS parts available in the US like the shifter cover.
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: Amiga on November 16, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
nice job men :wink:
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 17, 2012, 02:08:53 AM
Thank you guys!!!

No way I am like Scr33n he is on another planet!!!
As for spare part I know that there are some NOS, the shifter cover is already NOS, I cannot install the original shifter knob, because of early repair.
The stick was modified and the replacement knob welded on it, a standard car know will fit, I used a "tuning" knob.

The only things I am after are:
-Seat, found a similar part online, will order next week.
-All the artwork, I have sent a PM to the guy on KLOV, but he never reply back :(

Hope to start putting some pieces together early next week.
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 18, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Ok guys some progress!!!

From this

(http://imageshack.us/a/img805/5305/19140275.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/19140275.jpg/)

to this

(http://imageshack.us/a/img707/9610/91765406.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/91765406.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/7244/59092327.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/59092327.jpg/)

in the meantime i was able to paint the second part of the seat assembly

(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/5717/73909245.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/73909245.jpg/)

Plan for tomorrow:
-install the lower wood part on the back
-install 4 small wood pieces that support the monitor glass and the motor pcb.
-welding the seat base and paint it
-clean the wire harness

Plan for Tuesday:
-road trip :)
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: cudabee on November 19, 2012, 11:20:32 PM
Impressive!!

This was one of the many games that stayed way too long in the workshop for maintenance instead of on location because it was so addictive to play.We couldn't turn it loose and always found little knick knacks to fix.
 
If i remember well, it has a very special brakeswitch.One that measured brakeforce by the stretch of a metal strip inside the pedal.Unlike anything else we had seen before.
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on November 21, 2012, 01:17:19 AM
This was one of the many games that stayed way too long in the workshop for maintenance instead of on location because it was so addictive to play.We couldn't turn it loose and always found little knick knacks to fix.
 
If i remember well, it has a very special brakeswitch.One that measured brakeforce by the stretch of a metal strip inside the pedal.Unlike anything else we had seen before.

As far I can see and have heard my machine broke just a copule of time.
The first was a welding failure under the seat, the second when someone stole the shifter knob and finaly the ribbon cable that link all the pcbs toghether.

the metal thing you talk about is a strain gauge and it measure the force you put on the brake. There is a second one on the shifter lever!!!!

No great news today, spent the day looking for the item that threads hole... finding the request part wasn't easy, but now the shifter is in place :)

Friday I will make some holes and start putting something toghether for real!!!

Tomorrow I will have to drive for 900/1000Km
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: Gerry on November 21, 2012, 07:08:45 AM
Tomorrow I will have to drive for 900/1000Km

Time for another roadtrip report?
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on December 02, 2012, 02:36:23 AM
Ok I had some time to work on it again!!!

I'm really not impressed with the paint job I have done, I have used waterpaint and if I try to clean the side with just a piece of paper (something like a kleenex) the paper turn black (just a little) and I can see where I used the paper, any idea????

I had installed almost all electronic parts and quite ready to fire it up, I have just a loose wire, but looking at schematics seem it's just a second connector for coin switch, no sense but whatever

I sent the dashboard art out for printing I will get it early next week.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img267/8575/img20121202010342.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/img20121202010342.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img507/7945/img20121202010357.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/img20121202010357.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img526/6537/img20121202010417.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/img20121202010417.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img221/2456/img20121202010410.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/img20121202010410.jpg/)

test on paper to test the color match
(http://imageshack.us/a/img651/9531/img20121202010506.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/img20121202010506.jpg/)

Thanks Etienne for the files!!!
BTW the other art you give me is "wrong" the color should match the one used on the dashboard ones....
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 02, 2012, 08:31:44 AM
I'm really not impressed with the paint job I have done, I have used waterpaint and if I try to clean the side with just a piece of paper (something like a kleenex) the paper turn black (just a little) and I can see where I used the paper, any idea????

Waterpaint  :-\  i think there is your problem..
IMHO waterpaint sucks big time, i always avoid it, and use good old oilbased paint..

Thanks Etienne for the files!!!
BTW the other art you give me is "wrong" the color should match the one used on the dashboard ones....

No thanks, i also have received them from someone..  I have not done anything to the files, so it could be that the colors are not correct

Your work looks good !
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: level42 on December 02, 2012, 11:24:49 AM
It would be great if that tail artwork got finished, both for the guy who kindly provided those files and for Bart and Any.... ;D
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on December 19, 2012, 04:00:12 PM
Got a parcel today....

Almost the same model, hope this won't disintegrate with years...
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: level42 on December 19, 2012, 05:06:33 PM
Not sure if you need to modify anything for that seat, but here's how the HD hardware designer Jed Margolin did it:

http://www.jmargolin.com/schem/schems.htm#p07
Title: Re: Hard Drivin' Restoration
Post by: ANY on December 21, 2012, 02:46:08 AM
Yes I will have to do somehing similar... this mean more works and no time  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: