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General Chat => 'Business' Area : Buy/Sell/Trade => Topic started by: Love on June 25, 2012, 11:12:00 PM

Title: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 25, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
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Our (potential) partner in the US is John Yates aka Vectorman (klov) located in McLean, IL 61754.
http://www.arcade-museum.com/members/member_detail.php?member_id=378652
www.vintagevideogames.com

Here is the current link to the project workspace (using asana (http://asana.com/)):
https://app.asana.com/-/workspace_invite?k=efaeea9c165a1edd4c4b55ccdeef1c55&d=1169603838681&iid=1169590227549

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Hi everyone.

I might have found a way to send a container from the US to europe without doing everything myself. It's all (very) early stages, but I would like to check if there is enough interest here.

Conditions:
1 --- its a retailer offering the service, means we'd need to buy games from him too (e.g. to above klov prices). the guy has SHITLOADS of games, lots of rare ones too
2 --- games and parts from other sellers are okay, we just need to find a good ratio/mix of the retailers' games and games from other sources
3 --- games and parts can be stored at retailers location til we have it all together for the container
4 --- that said, shipping will be USD 2000-4000 per container, USD 100-150 per game (no VAT included)
5 --- VAT will be about 20% of value we ship games for i guess (i.e. games are "worth" USD 100 each = USD 40-50 VAT per game)
6 --- 24 games in case of 20ft and 48 games in case of 40ft container
7 --- pickup of games in a european harbour of (our) choice

Questions:
1 --- Is there enough/any interest in this at all?
2 --- Which games in the US are you guys and gals looking for and how much would you wanna pay for them.

I think this is a mid term project, i.e. I don't see the container shipping before early next year. I do think of it as an option to get a hold of some of the grails and maybe even more ;-)

I also can assist in finding the games in the US if there's demand. Anything else you want to know?

Thanks, Thomas


Title: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
No interest AT ALL? Really?

I didn't expect that. Can you guys and gals please tell me why?  :?
 
 
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: caincan on June 26, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
hi...paul50's has tried (and succeeded) this kind of thing..  but his price were harsh...

if you have a listing of your retailer,  i could be interested to look it.    i wish find some games,  5-6... ::)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on June 26, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
the thing is: a lot of people have tried before to put a container together, but most of the attemps have failed because of the large amount of money involved. perhaps oll could chime in here, he's importing stuff from the usa on a regular basis if i'm not mistaken ...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: DarthNuno on June 26, 2012, 09:29:24 PM
Yes, there are few posts about that, right here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=592.0) or here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1092.0) for example...
A list of the games available would be the first motivation factor  ::)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
Well, I would suggest that anybody do the deals themself and pay directly to the seller whoever that is (klov, retailer, friend, craigslist, you name it). We are not restricted to the games of the guy who is providing the container service. We can buy everything we'd like to from any seller in the US (and maybe even Canada).

So, if anyone is doing the deals themself there is not much money involved. USD 150 for shpping per game are not very much, no?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
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A list of the games available would be the first motivation factor  ::)

I think a list of the games wanted would be a better starting point, as games can come from all available sources.

Please tell me what you are looking for! Also, I can assist in looking for games or make contact if need be...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 09:43:27 PM
Okay here is the starting point. The list (http://www.arcade-museum.com/members/member_detail.php?member_id=378652) of stuff the "guy" has (for sale).  :pac: :pac: :pac:



 
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on June 26, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
Hi Thomas,

Well, I would be interested in a nice Donkey Kong cabinet.
Prefer blue, but a pretty orange DK Junior is fine too.

And after ready the list, depending on the price of course, the Medieval Madness pinball machine maybe.
Does your supplier have pics and additional info on the cabinets?

-Barry
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on June 26, 2012, 10:02:41 PM
some nice games in there, still on the top of my list: TAPPER and TRACK & FIELD

also interested in SUPER PAC-MAN and SATAN'S HOLLOW
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
Yes, the guy will have fotos and info of games we are interested in. But as I said: I would like to know what you guys are looking for to see if the stuff is aavailable over there and if the prices are okay with you.

Anyways, here are the pros for the whole thing:
1 - Retailer did this before. Is just sending a container to Australia.
2 - Retailer accepts games from other sellers in the deal. These can be stored at the retailers facility.
3 - Retailer has lots of interesting games himself.
4 - Retailer is going to do most of the paper work and stuff.

Cons:
1 - Prices for retailers games are above klov prices.

Sound good?

  
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
some nice games in there, still on the top of my list: TAPPER and TRACK & FIELD

also interested in SUPER PAC-MAN and SATAN'S HOLLOW

I recently was going to buy a SH for 450 on klov but ran out of money. Another one was sold there in the last two weeks for usd 400 i think. Maybe you saw them yourself? Just FYI.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on June 26, 2012, 10:12:44 PM
Sounds good.
Just curious for the prices and pics at this moment.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Tup on June 26, 2012, 10:14:45 PM
Sounds very interesting. But what about the taxes you have to pay to get the shipment into Europe? That is the biggest problem imho. From what I have found out looking into this it is between 20-30% and is calculated over the total shipment costs plus insurance costs plus of course the price of the game. It adds up to quite a lot.
Btw, Andy from the UK is doing something simmilar: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3635.0
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:20:34 PM
Sounds very interesting. But what about the taxes you have to pay to get the shipment into Europe? That is the biggest problem imho. From what I have found out looking into this it is between 20-30% and is calculated over the total shipment costs plus insurance costs plus of course the price of the game. It adds up to quite a lot.
Btw, Andy from the UK is doing something simmilar: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3635.0

Andy describes pretty well how one can keep taxes low. Basically its a tradeoff between insurance (real value of cabs) or low import tax (cabs are labeled as "trash" and therefore not fully insured). I am buying cabs from him coming with this container btw.

My option is thought to be more of a mid term project (like 1st or 2nd quarter 2013), so we can all harvest the US market for a while. Also shipping price is lower here compared to his offer.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Tup on June 26, 2012, 10:35:34 PM
Andy describes pretty well how one can keep taxes low. Basically its a tradeoff between insurance (real value of cabs) or low import tax (cabs are labeled as "trash" and therefore not fully insured). I am buying cabs from him coming with this container btw.

My option is thought to be more of a mid term project (like 1st or 2nd quarter 2013), so we can all harvest the US market for a while. Also shipping price is lower here compared to his offer.
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Yeah, he explained it quite well! I am also buying some cabs from him. But I would be interested in joining yours too (depending of course on prices of cabs) as there are a few cabs on my list that Andy didn't have ( and it being a midterm project I will also have some time to save a little money :wink: )
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on June 26, 2012, 10:39:38 PM
I might be interested in a double dragon, burgertime, dig dug or gyruss but it really will depend on the price. If its close to what I paid Paul for my galaga or ms pac I will take one.

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:39:52 PM
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Yeah, he explained it quite well! I am also buying some cabs from him. But I would be interested in joining yours too (depending of course on prices of cabs) as there are a few cabs on my list that Andy didn't have ( and it being a midterm project I will also have some time to save a little money :wink: )

Well, let us know what games you are looking for!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:41:59 PM
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I might be interested in a double dragon, burgertime, dig dug or gyruss but it really will depend on the price. If its close to what I paid Paul for my galaga or ms pac I will take one.

What did you pay for these? Or asked in a different way: What do you consider to be acceptable?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on June 26, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Gravitar please ....mint and 100 USD please ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Belike on June 26, 2012, 10:50:14 PM
Maybe I'm interested in a Tron, depends on price and condition. ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:53:10 PM
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Gravitar please ....mint and 100 USD please ;)

Well, to late (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=233900&highlight=gravitar).  :P
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 26, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
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Quote
Gravitar please ....mint and 100 USD please ;)
Well, to late (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=233900&highlight=gravitar).  :P

Seriously, you can get a nice Gravitar (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=227906&highlight=gravitar) for okay money over there. But I guess you know that anyway.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: atarimania on June 26, 2012, 10:56:49 PM
Sounds good
I could be interesting in Computer Space, Firefox, Starhawk, Tapper, Q*Bert... (since I tried it during last Eurocade  :)) ...  depending of the price of the cabs :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: maurice on June 26, 2012, 11:11:17 PM
I be interested in Punch out.....but the price???
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on June 26, 2012, 11:16:03 PM
This could be an interesting adventure (on many levels  ;)).
Thanks for trying.
Here is my whishlist: Donkey Kong, Q*bert, Tron, Kung-Fu Master.
Sometimes in my wildest dreams I also see a... Space Harrier Deluxe.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Tup on June 26, 2012, 11:29:43 PM
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Yeah, he explained it quite well! I am also buying some cabs from him. But I would be interested in joining yours too (depending of course on prices of cabs) as there are a few cabs on my list that Andy didn't have ( and it being a midterm project I will also have some time to save a little money :wink: )

Well, let us know what games you are looking for!

I am a modest man so my wishlist isn't that big  :wink: : Pacman, Kungfu Master and Q*bert
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on June 27, 2012, 12:01:17 AM
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I might be interested in a double dragon, burgertime, dig dug or gyruss but it really will depend on the price. If its close to what I paid Paul for my galaga or ms pac I will take one.

What did you pay for these? Or asked in a different way: What do you consider to be acceptable?


well, those deals were both bulk buys but we paid a lot less then he was advertising on his website and eBay.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: maurice on June 27, 2012, 07:57:58 AM
and i still looking for a popeye but i don't see it in the list >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 08:02:53 AM
and i still looking for a popeye but i don't see it in the list >:( >:( >:(

Which list? The one in the thread here or the Vaps entry?

Anyways, there were a lot of Popeyes on klov recently. We will get one I am sure.  :pac: :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: AusWoody on June 27, 2012, 08:07:39 AM
FWIW guys, John Yates is a very reliable and honest guy. I am one of the lucky ones getting some cabs sent to Australia from him. This was done through a buying co-op organised on our forum www.aussiearcade.com

I am getting 4 cabs, 3 from him and 1 from a KLOV member. John is very easy to deal with. His prices are NOT KLOV prices, but you are getting a lot more than just a cab. He goes over it to ensure there will be no quarantine problems, stores them and loads the container. He really goes the extra mile. He also provides photos of what you are buying.

Our container of games left his warehouse on Monday :)

Also, it is worth paying more if John already has the game you are looking for. Internal USA shipping is quite expensive. Expect to pay between $200 and $350 to get a cab from anywhere else to John.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: skov on June 27, 2012, 08:31:51 AM
My three top wishes are in the list  ;D

Would be interested in Bank Panic, Track & Field and ESB/SW
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 09:35:16 AM
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FWIW guys, John Yates is a very reliable and honest guy. I am one of the lucky ones getting some cabs sent to Australia from him. This was done through a buying co-op organised on our forum www.aussiearcade.com

I am getting 4 cabs, 3 from him and 1 from a KLOV member. John is very easy to deal with. His prices are NOT KLOV prices, but you are getting a lot more than just a cab. He goes over it to ensure there will be no quarantine problems, stores them and loads the container. He really goes the extra mile. He also provides photos of what you are buying.

Our container of games left his warehouse on Monday :)

Also, it is worth paying more if John already has the game you are looking for. Internal USA shipping is quite expensive. Expect to pay between $200 and $350 to get a cab from anywhere else to John.

Thanks for the info and encouragement.

And yes, shipping in the US is a cost factor. But in many cases it will still be a very reasonable price, even shipped to John from somewhere else. Of course we will look for cabs close to Johns place which is north east of the US. So games in California for example are no reasonable option.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 09:54:05 AM
List in first post updated!

I would like to get a list of ALL the stuff we are interested in before I contact John for prices. So keep them wannas comin'  :pac::pac::pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Ronald Reagan on June 27, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I highly doubt that you will pull this one off. Logically you would buy one huge bulk of arcademachines, ship them to Europe, and sell each cab seperated.

Now you are working the other way around, beginning at the ending of the chain, with asking the buyers their favourites. Chance is, if you might pull the import of a container off, maybe 15% of the buyers will end up with their dreamcab, or am I a bit too pessimistic about this one?

nonetheless:

StreetFighter champions edition cabinet
Popeye Nintendo
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: TimePilot on June 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
count me in for:
Tempest
Assault
Star Wars
Gravitar
Black Widow
and other color xy games from atari

but everything depends on price & availability... ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
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Now you are working the other way around, beginning at the ending of the chain, with asking the buyers their favourites. Chance is, if you might pull the import of a container off, maybe 15% of the buyers will end up with their dreamcab, or am I a bit too pessimistic about this one?

15%? How did you calculate this? Hmmpf ;)

Well, I disagree. I for myself just bought a couple of cabs from klovers and non klovers in the US already. Now I need to get them over to europe. If I ship the three games of mine alone it will cost me "pretty much". If I ship them in a container with other collectors cabs it will be "pretty cheap" - in this case about USD 100-150 per cab. If we are going to ship in 6+ months from now, I can even wait for more rarities to come up! Christ, this gives me the creeps (thinking of my bank account) ;)

I don't want to make money on this. I just want to save on shipping. For everyone else this is an opprtunity to reach out to cabs they are looking for. I also highly recommend that you guys look out for stuff you are interested in by yourself. And as I said, I can assist in getting stuff too. I even imagine some kind of constantly updated thread here with offers in the US, similar to the ebay and marktplaats threads.

Well, next steps will be contacting John, get prices for stuff we want he has, see if people wanna commit to the deal on Johns terms, organize the whole process and start looking for the rest of the stuff we want. In 3-6 months we should have everything together and wait for the container to ship and arrive. It's that easy  :D :pac: :ghost: ??? :)

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Muerto on June 27, 2012, 11:16:29 AM
Yes, it sounds simple  ;D ;D ;D
If the price is right, put me down for:
Tempest
Asteroids
Asteroids Deluxe
Tapper
Timber

-EDIT-
Did a quick count, and if all the deals go through, there´s 60+ cabs all ready..... 60 foot container perhaps?? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: jcp on June 27, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
I'm interested in a Joust if the price is right  ;).
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
Well folks, at some point you will need to translate "if the price is right" into hard numbers. Be prepared!

Background: For the stuff we buy from John it will go along the lines of he is going to say high price, we say low price, he says med high price, we say med low price... well you get the picture. For the other stuff (klov etc) thats not going to work. If I for example look for a Popeye on klov I need to know how much you want to spend/what you consider to be a good price. This is because if its a good price we need to be fast on securing the game. Imagine me saying stuff like "take the Popeye" and a day later "wont take the Popeye sorry" a couple of times. Not exactly nice PR-wise hmm?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on June 27, 2012, 11:36:47 AM
-EDIT-
Did a quick count, and if all the deals go through, there´s 60+ cabs all ready..... 60 foot container perhaps?? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just to be clear, i only will take one cab (if the price is right)...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 11:39:52 AM
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Just to be clear, i only will take one cab (if the price is right)...

That's the spirit!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: kroustibat on June 27, 2012, 11:56:46 AM
here's my interest list
Street Fighter II - Champion Edition
space invaders deluxe
Asterois
Donkey Kong Junior
Gyruss
Pac-Man
Pac-land
Simpsons, The
Track & Field
Zaxxon
As ully mentioned, depending on the price, I'd only pick one
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 12:00:59 PM
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60+ cabs all ready..... 60 foot container perhaps??

Mega LOL! Seriously, I don't think we should develop a new 60ft conatiner standard! Just think of the costs when the two harbours and ship involved need to get updated to be able to handle one of these behemoths!!!!!!!!!111

Seriously seriously, please let me know how many you want to buy overall. Raw estimate is fine :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: maurice on June 27, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
count me in for:

Nintendo popeye
Nintendo punch out

( depends on price & availability & condition )
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on June 27, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
This sounds pretty interesting, and it would be great if you/we could pull this off. I guess it never hurts to try.

Call me interested for:
Moon Cresta (Childhood favourite)
Tempest
Gyruss
Frogger
Juno First
Burgertime
Bump 'n Jump
Q-Bert


If the prices are right (duh!) I would buy one or two. No cocktails though.

How does it work if we would like to buy a game from f.i. a Klov member. I mean, how should transport be arranged to the place where the container will be loaded?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
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How does it work if we would like to buy a game from f.i. a Klov member. I mean, how should transport be arranged to the place where the container will be loaded?

We will have to arrange for shipping individually, though I expect to find us an okay shipping company/partner sooner or later. I will have to ship stuff soon anyway, so I can start doing some field testing soon.

Edit: Three soons in two sentences try to beat THAT! Soon!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Okay, I did set up a Goo Docs sheet for the list of games and who wants them. Anyone interested in the "project" please PM me with their email address and I will invite you to the doc.

The idea is that you can enter your stuff yourself. Lets see if this works  :ghost:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on June 27, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
so basically it's like this:
either buy a cab from the container guy or buy a cab from someone else and have it shipped to the container guy's place, right? is there a ratio we have to look out for between "his" games and games from someone else?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
so basically it's like this:
either buy a cab from the container guy or buy a cab from someone else and have it shipped to the container guy's place, right? is there a ratio we have to look out for between "his" games and games from someone else?

You are correct. And yes, the ratio question is very important. We will start discussing it this week as John was totally busy with the Australia container last week. I nevertheless want to provide John with a long list of stuff we are looking for, when I am going to ask him my questions - just to avoid extended email back and forth.

So, any more questions anyone?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:42:26 PM
Okay, I did set up a Goo Docs sheet for the list of games and who wants them. Anyone interested in the "project" please PM me with their email address and I will invite you to the doc.

The idea is that you can enter your stuff yourself. Lets see if this works  :ghost:

Thats what the Games List (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AoyZPyBmGMxsdG13bThTV3Mtdmo0MEpaRlVlLUVFdmc&output=html) looks like right now. PM me your email addresses to get invited.

Or is a stupid idea?

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: atarimania on June 27, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Other games I'm interesting in depending price and condition (I think that I could take 6 in total):
Black Widow (+ other color Atari vector games)
Donkey Kong 3
Fire Truck
Kangaroo
Moon Cresta
Robotron:2084
Sprint 2
Star Trek
Starship 1
Joust 2
Moon Patrol

Franck
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:53:29 PM
Other games I'm interesting in depending price and condition (I think that I could take 6 in total):
Black Widow (+ other color Atari vector games)
Donkey Kong 3
Fire Truck
Kangaroo
Moon Cresta
Robotron:2084
Sprint 2
Star Trek
Starship 1
Joust 2
Moon Patrol

Franck

Nice choices. Please enter them in the list!

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Muerto on June 27, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
ESB/SW = Empire Strikes Back / Star Wars made by Atari
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
ESB/SW = Empire Strikes Back / Star Wars made by Atari

Schlauberger! Send me your email and I invite you so you can put it in yourself  :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on June 27, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
Love, thanks for making the cabinet wishlist and putting me on it.
Now let's wait for prices and pics :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: DarthNuno on June 27, 2012, 04:41:47 PM
Here's my wish list on this story  :arrow:

Kung Fu Master of course!
One Nintendo RED cabinet (not the widebody)
Firefox (cockpit or upr)
Lazarian
Satan's Hollow
Buggy Boy
Tutankham

(post moved to the Business Area section)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
Here's my wish list on this story  :arrow:

Kung Fu Master of course!
One Nintendo RED cabinet (not the widebody)
Firefox (cockpit or upr)
Lazarian
Satan's Hollow
Buggy Boy
Tutankham

(post moved to the Business Area section)


Please PM me your email address. I invite you to the Goo Sheet and you can enter the games there yourself.  :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on June 27, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
Of course the USD100 max. for Gravitar was a joke, kindly remove that :)

Please ad Mad Planets for me.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 27, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
Of course the USD100 max. for Gravitar was a joke, kindly remove that :)

Please ad Mad Planets for me.


I know it was a joke, just thought it looked nice in the list ;) Mad Planets added. You can also pm me your email and I invite you to the list so you can edit it yourself.

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
Okay everyone. I contacted John with the list we have so far. Let's see what he's coming up with. It might take til the weekend to get an answer though as he seems to be pretty busy normally.

And for starters: Here is a nice Donkey Kong Jr for sale (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=236798&highlight=dns). It's USD 400 and pretty close to New Jersey/Philadelphia, which is the place with the P-Man container. If there is interest I can arrange for shipping via P-Mans container. Shipping price including VAT is about EUR 300 though. So, including shipping to Philadelphia this cab will cost about EUR 650-800 shipped to the UK south cost (depending on del options to Philly and other stuff).

 :pac: :ghost: :pac: :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 10:15:41 AM
And an I, Robot project (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=237580). Shipping to Johns place will be USD 300 to 400 I guess. An untested I, Robot PCB on ebay w/o connector board is EUR 360 already and 6 hours to go!

Here is John Yates city and zip by the way: McLean, IL 61754
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
Working Juno First PCB on ebay US.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.de/viewitem?itemId=230817968636
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on June 28, 2012, 12:47:41 PM
Working Juno First PCB on ebay US.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.de/viewitem?itemId=230817968636

Off topic: Great game. Until my recent visit to Funspot, my number one game on my wishlist was Tempest, but Juno First took over first place. I played the game a lot during those few days and I love everything about it, gameplay, visuals and sound. A really true classic and awesome game.

I sure would love to get this game, but I have no clue if this is a realistic prize for the pcb, and the seller only ships in the States, which is a pity.

On topic: @Love, you seem to be willing to do quite a lot for us, like arranging shipment overland in The States etc. But above link suggests that you're located in germany. Am I correct or are you located overseas? If so, then you must have good connections over there.

And if there will be a container loaded with cabs etc. shipped to Europe, which I hope, at which port will it arrive?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 01:21:16 PM
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I sure would love to get this game, but I have no clue if this is a realistic prize for the pcb, and the seller only ships in the States, which is a pity.

Price is pretty high but not totally nuts. Well, it's SLIGHTLY nuts. Ask the seller if he ships to europe. Is about USD 30-40 normally.

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you seem to be willing to do quite a lot for us, like arranging shipment overland in The States etc. But above link suggests that you're located in germany. Am I correct or are you located overseas? If so, then you must have good connections over there.

Yes I am located in Berlin Germany. I bought a couple of things over there in the last two or three years (mainly via klov forum) and up til now never got screwed.

Contacts: P-Man is there from time to time. I did talk to two other well known long time collectors involved in the P-Man container project and can store games there. I bought from Todd Tuckey and Jeff Rothe recently. I also bought stuff from a couple other guys that even did ship stuff for me from sellers that didnt want to ship to europe! Ah, and I bought a cab from steve23 recently. Thats the guy who started one of the other container threads here. Short: These guys were always nice and supporting and I am not afraid of doing business with them remote (yet).

On a side note regarding steve23: If someone is looking for any parts or project games and knows Steve has them, we can include those too, as I will need to arrange shipping for at least one game from him anyway.

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And if there will be a container loaded with cabs etc. shipped to Europe, which I hope, at which port will it arrive?

Thats totally open as of yet. I guess we need to know who the stakeholders will be and what the harbour options are, before we can all decide for one via voting or something. But I can assure you that we will need to take over the place with our vans to get all the cabs picked up on arrival. At least thats how I imagine the whole thing at the moment ;)

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you seem to be willing to do quite a lot for us, like arranging shipment overland in The States etc.

I want to get the ball rolling, but I don't want to do ALL the work myself. As I wrote in an earlier post, I suggest that you guys go after the stuff you want yourself. For the time being and to give you an idea of whats possible and whats not, I do offer to help arranging stuff.

Later on we can do stuff individually. We will just need to put details and status in one single list, to keep everyone up-to-date. (And to realize when we have enough for the container to ship ;))

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Luigi on June 28, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
OK, in case I might be able to get a Journey-Cab (hell, I'd even buy an empty shell and 'mame' it), where does the container leave the states from, where has the cab to be shipped to within the USA?


If a 2nd Juno First appears on the scene....I'll take it :)

Gotta ask Dirk about Tempest....
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 02:10:23 PM
OK, in case I might be able to get a Journey-Cab (hell, I'd even buy an empty shell and 'mame' it), where does the container leave the states from, where has the cab to be shipped to within the USA?


If a 2nd Juno First appears on the scene....I'll take it :)

Gotta ask Dirk about Tempest....

Hey, just saw your post on klov regarding the Journey and wanted to contct you, now you post here. Wenn das McLuhan wüsste, der würde sich vor Freude im Grabe umdrehen :pac:

 I know some one who might have Journeys for sale. As I will ship two cabs from this someone to hopefully our container Sammelpunkt in McLean, IL 61754 anyway, asking will make even more sense. Will keep you updated!

BTW: Do you know someone close to Arnsberg? I need someone to pick my Spiders cocktail table there. Help!!!!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
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I know some one who might have Journeys for sale.

Well here are the lists of stuff he has for sale. He is a retailer too but prices are okay mostly. Not too far away from McLean either.

Good ones (not all are for sale):
2 journey's,solar fox,blastroids,kangroo,bosconian,target gallery,spy hunter s/d,10-15 e/m pins,moon patrol duramold,night bomber,lazarian,popeye,donkey jr,lost tomb,turtles,kung fu master,4 tutnkamin,3 qberts,gauntlet,2 kickman,crazy climber,gorf,tempest,tag team,paperboy,

So lalas:
stargate-not sure if works 350
cosmic avengers-works 400
amidar-works 400
quartett 4 player -bad video 300
jump bug-missing monitor bezel bad power supply 250
boot hill-complete not working 250
mayday-working 400
gunfight-complete not working 250
jack giant killer-works 400
lost tomb-bad power supply 300
vanguard-no power supply 350
bubble bobble-works 400
alpin ski-works but dont coin up so you cant play 400
defender-complete not working 400
pacland- complete comes on/off 300
crystal castle-works 400
tag team-works 500
mario bros wide-works 500
elevator action -not working complete 300
paperboy-no monitor 300
sinistar cockpit -no boards 700
monoco gp cockpit-works 700
carnival-complete not work 300
gauntlet-works 400
 
 
I didnt get to my last storage spot but mostly going to me ms pac cabnets,jamma games,neo geo's
so this is it for classic stuff some of the above games I have 2-3 of each
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Luigi on June 28, 2012, 02:35:23 PM
Good ones (not all are for sale):
2 journey's

One for sale would be ok  :shock:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
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One for sale would be ok  :shock:

I know  :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 03:09:21 PM
Guys, look at this! (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=240686)

Just bought the Space Demon mini from the guy, so it might make sense to buy more and get it shipped to McLean altogether...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on June 28, 2012, 03:59:34 PM
........ I also bought stuff from a couple other guys that even did ship stuff for me from sellers that didnt want to ship to europe! Ah, and I bought a cab from steve23 recently. Thats the guy who started one of the other container threads here. Short: These guys were always nice and supporting and I am not afraid of doing business with them remote (yet).

You seem to be on a role!  :)

Are you familiair with the motto on this forum?  PICS, or it didn't happen !!!!!!   :lol: :lol:

Because of this very interesting topic I would almost forget that a nice introduction, with PICS, would be great, right here: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?board=3.20
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
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Are you familiair with the motto on this forum?  PICS, or it didn't happen !!!!!!   :lol: :lol:

I already introduced myself a short while ago (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3518.0) but with a different name (Alfons-Z). Added some pictures to the thread though. The last one, Nintendo Space Demon Cabaret, is one of three to be known to exist :pac: The Gremlin Safari is the ONLY one known of :pac::pac:

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 04:33:10 PM
Good ones (not all are for sale):
2 journey's

One for sale would be ok  :shock:

Got first feedback regarding Journey and more. Not much space for haggling with this guy though. Good news is, shipping to John Yates will cost USD 100 for 3 games or more. For ALL games! Means almost no shipping costs IN the US.

mayday-400 you seen pics
nato defence-1600-bought new in the box I am 2nd owner it is a 10
journey-1600-concider it a B in condition
solar fox-700- B+ condtion
blastroids500-B+ condtion
kangroo-600 B+ condtion
popeye-600 C condtion
donkey jr-600 B+ condtion
kung fu master-600 B+ condtion
tutnkamin-800 B condtion
qberts-1200 A condtion
crazy climber-1300 B+ condtion
tempest-900 B+ condtion
the B= condtion are games that i think look as nice as the other 2 you bought
kickman and star rider the popeye is not as nice but still nice


Edit1. To be clear: This is NOT John! This is not the guy who is doing the container!

Edit2. Let me know what you are interested in and I will get pics and detailed info.

Edit3. Just to make double triple sure: Prices in dollars not euros!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on June 28, 2012, 05:57:48 PM
i'M totally confused! who's john, who's mclean, who's chris? ???
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 28, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
Hi Ully, to clarify:

John Yates = container guy (see links in updated first post of this thread)
McLean, IL = the town John Yates resides in (all cabs bought from someone else would need to get shipped to McLean, IL)

Gary = another contact I bought a Star Rider and Kick Man from recently (also has a Journey for sale)

Chris = joke part of your post? don't know what you refer to.

I did contact Gary today as Luigi is looking for a Journey and I knew he has one (or two).

Cheers!

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 28, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
i'M totally confused! who's john, who's mclean, who's chris? ???

This is chris  ;D ;D ;D

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1814;type=avatar)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on June 28, 2012, 08:16:31 PM
Hi Love (sounds a little weird :))

Thanks for your efforts so far.
It's getting a little complicated with the different sellers I must say.
But everything sounds fine.

With these different sellers, I am not sure who's Donkey Kong cabinets I have to chase :)
I just want a nice clean DK jr / and or DK cabinet for not TOO much money.
By the way, the prices you stated (including shipping etc) are in that range.

Thanks.
So yeah, pics are welcome.

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on June 28, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
i'M totally confused! who's john, who's mclean, who's chris? ???

This is chris  ;D ;D ;D

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1814;type=avatar)
and I'm only called John on Eurocade official pictures  ;)

I'm interested by some pics of the Kung-Fu Master, by the way.
Thanks for all this "lovely" work.  :spaceace:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 29, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
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It's getting a little complicated with the different sellers I must say.
But everything

Hmm, I guess it is indeed a bit messy. I will think about how to organize the whole thing and guess I will start a new thread some time soon.

:pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on June 30, 2012, 12:46:55 AM
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It's getting a little complicated with the different sellers I must say.
But everything

Hmm, I guess it is indeed a bit messy. I will think about how to organize the whole thing and guess I will start a new thread some time soon.

:pac:

Don't get me wrong, I am still very interested in one or two Donkey Kong cabinets.
But for me, it would be clearer if you only offered the stuff from the main guy from who we have the cabinet list (John Yates?).
And dealing with other sellers involves "double trust/risk". Buy from an unknown guy who ships it to another unknown guy who ships it to us.
Don't want to sound to harsh, because I really am interested. But maybe you understand what I mean.
And for instance, 1st pick deals made with John can turn out worse than we might have hoped for if another Klov seller offers a better deal on some cab orso.

Anyway, I hope you continue with your container deal.
Could really use the Nintendo cabinets :)

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 30, 2012, 03:19:26 PM
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It's getting a little complicated with the different sellers I must say.
But everything

Hmm, I guess it is indeed a bit messy. I will think about how to organize the whole thing and guess I will start a new thread some time soon.

:pac:

Don't get me wrong, I am still very interested in one or two Donkey Kong cabinets.
But for me, it would be clearer if you only offered the stuff from the main guy from who we have the cabinet list (John Yates?).
And dealing with other sellers involves "double trust/risk". Buy from an unknown guy who ships it to another unknown guy who ships it to us.
Don't want to sound to harsh, because I really am interested. But maybe you understand what I mean.
And for instance, 1st pick deals made with John can turn out worse than we might have hoped for if another Klov seller offers a better deal on some cab orso.

Anyway, I hope you continue with your container deal.
Could really use the Nintendo cabinets :)



Well, thanks for your comment. I think it points in the right direction.

I think we will need some rules like

1. Each of us buys at least one game from John directly. If we are only 5 collectors or less finally involved in this, we would need to take two off his hands each. This way half the stuff is coming directly from him.
2. We first try to get our stuff from John.
3. If he doesn't have what we are looking for, and each of us bought at least one game from him, we will start looking for the beauties somewhere else.
4. The whole process will be captured in some kind of tool like Google Docs. This way each of us can be part of the process and is always up-to-date.

I will try to cover point 4 til I get feedback from John.

Have a nice weekend everyone!  :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: chubsta on June 30, 2012, 09:56:30 PM
Interested in:
Tempest
Spy Hunter
Buck Rogers
Circus Charlie
Robotron:2084

All depending upon price/condition of course!  ;D

Have updated the master-list on Google Docs..
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 30, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Interested in:
Tempest
Spy Hunter
Buck Rogers
Circus Charlie
Robotron:2084

All depending upon price/condition of course!  ;D

Have updated the master-list on Google Docs..


Interested in this (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=229643&highlight=planet+zoom)? Guess not hmm?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: chubsta on June 30, 2012, 10:10:08 PM
Interested in:
Tempest
Spy Hunter
Buck Rogers
Circus Charlie
Robotron:2084

All depending upon price/condition of course!  ;D

Have updated the master-list on Google Docs..


Interested in this (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=229643&highlight=planet+zoom)? Guess not hmm?

Looks like exactly why i want, but i tried to create a list of my biggest 'wants' from what is available from the 'main seller' on this topic, the simplicity of getting stuff from one place appeals to me...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on June 30, 2012, 10:22:47 PM
Interested in:
Tempest
Spy Hunter
Buck Rogers
Circus Charlie
Robotron:2084

All depending upon price/condition of course!  ;D

Have updated the master-list on Google Docs..


Interested in this (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=229643&highlight=planet+zoom)? Guess not hmm?

Looks like exactly why i want, but i tried to create a list of my biggest 'wants' from what is available from the 'main seller' on this topic, the simplicity of getting stuff from one place appeals to me...

The simplicity of getting stuff from one place will crumble when you get to see the prices  ;)

Alrighty then.  :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Alpha1 on June 30, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
The guy selling the Buck Rogers is Shaun, he's on ukvac - he's a UK collector living in the USA.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 09:11:30 AM
The guy selling the Buck Rogers is Shaun, he's on ukvac - he's a UK collector living in the USA.

Thanks for the info
Title: US container interest check ---> check in!
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 09:38:34 AM
Hi guys and girls (if any),

I came up with a way to structure the whole thing using asana (http://asana.com/). Its not uber great, but free and (once digged) very simple. It will add to making the whole process more transparent and keeps all of us up-to-date at any given time. I will send invites asap.

Here is how it works basically, see screen shots attached.

1. Projects. Thats where the data is.
Send someone a list? Put it into, well, "lists" (links go into note area of entries). Have someone offering a game for sale or a possible lead? Put it into "games" project (files like pics and whatnot can be attached too) . Shipping games to Johns' or even bought from John directly :P ? File it under "container" so everyone knows how many games are ready for shipping to the old world.

2. Tags. They are meant to show status of transaction/game and also help structuring stuff. I hope they are self explaining. If not let me know.

3. People. That's you. Hopefully. Just make sure that you use your forums nick and put at least your email address in the notes area.

So how to use this? Well first of all sign up. Second, assign games (-offered) you are interested in to yourself (too). Third, any questions regarding an item? Put them in the comment section of the item. And fourth, put any offers or leads you think are worth mentioning in asana.

When stuff is changing status, like from -offered to -paid, or from -paid to -shipping, update the tag of the item.

Et voila. Et voila?

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 01, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
i thought the email i've just received entitled "love via asana" was spam!!! i immediately moved it into the spam folder ... :P
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 10:02:18 AM
i thought the email i've just received entitled "love via asana" was spam!!! i immediately moved it into the spam folder ... :P

maybe you should leave it in there? just think of all the money you will save  :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
I updtaed the first post with the current project link!

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 01, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
that thing looks complicated. and you have to sign on somewhere, right? same thing with the google doc ...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
that thing looks complicated. and you have to sign on somewhere, right? same thing with the google doc ...

yes know what you mean. but to be honest, i dont think spreadsheets are the weapon of choice here. AND i would like anyone here to be part of the process rather than just watching.

it looks complicated, but it is not. the three tabs (projects, tags, people) are more or less it. there is nothing more.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 01, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
Hi Love,

Thanks for creating the Asana project. I added the DK jr. cabinet to my wishlist. Prices and cabinets are looking pretty good btw!
Keep adding the cabs :)
How much money in total (approx) should we have to add to have them shipped over here again?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 10:51:04 AM
Hi Love,

Thanks for creating the Asana project. I added the DK jr. cabinet to my wishlist. Prices and cabinets are looking pretty good btw!
Keep adding the cabs :)
How much money in total (approx) should we have to add to have them shipped over here again?


Last thing I heard from John was a bit more than $100 per cab. This is not including VAT, but if we state the value as $100 too for example, VAT should add up to something like $40 max.

These are guesses though. Dont nail me on them later on ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 01, 2012, 10:51:18 AM
i get a "not found error" when i try to join the list!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 11:03:20 AM
i get a "not found error" when i try to join the list!

hmm, please try the project link from the first post.
https://app.asana.com/-/workspace_invite?k=efaeea9c165a1edd4c4b55ccdeef1c55&d=1169603838681&iid=1169590227549

Another thing:
The links to pics, posts or lists are always entered in the notes area of an item. This goes for the Interest Google list too (which is still existing and in use). When you do some changes in the Google list, mark them as such or comment on the list item in Asana please.

Dankesehr!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 01, 2012, 11:12:18 AM
doesn't work for me!!!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
doesn't work for me!!!

whaaaat? sent invite again.

PM me if still issues.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: chubsta on July 01, 2012, 11:23:57 AM
Works for me but I'm being a bit thick and not sure what to do with it  ???

I have a list of games in mind that i would like so what do i do now? I see that Buck Rogers you mentioned above has got your name next to it with an offer...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 11:33:21 AM
Works for me but I'm being a bit thick and not sure what to do with it  ???

I have a list of games in mind that i would like so what do i do now? I see that Buck Rogers you mentioned above has got your name next to it with an offer...

Well, the Buck Rogers is tagged as -lead, and you are just reading my comment there saying that offered the seller some cash.

If you are interested in a certain game, assign it to yourself. In this case I did this for you, also changed my comment to be more clear. If you have quetions regarding this game you can just add another comment. I will get a notification then. There is also a link to the add included up there.

See screenshot with changes:

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 11:35:42 AM
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I have a list of games in mind that i would like so what do i do now?

Just add them in the google doc we already use. There is a link to it in "lists" project. Mark your additions/changes in the spread sheet with color or something please.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 01, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Hi Love,

just added the Donkey Kong to the games-list as you told in your PM.
About the list, do I have to contact the seller of the DK jr.? Or is claiming / offering the cabinet in the Asana document enough, and do you contact the sellers?

Thanks.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
About the list, do I have to contact the seller of the DK jr.? Or is claiming / offering the cabinet in the Asana document enough, and do you contact the sellers?

For the contacts I did provide I will ask the seller myself (like in this case).

That is unlike stated otherwise. ;)

But most important: As I am only looking for stuff noted in the Google Docs list, please add your new wannas there first.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 01:36:47 PM
Just added a News Ticker section. Is similar to the Marktplaats and ebay threads on the forum. Can you please check it? And do you get email notifications for it?

If you think this should be a thread in the DL forum, not in asana let me know. I just think it's quite handy to move one of the news posts over to the games project and make it a game (or set of games).

Let me know what you think.

Thomas
Title: love letter
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
Hi all interested in the US container adventure,

I feel like I need to explain some of my moves here. First of all I am happy and excited that we are going to try to do this (most probably). The word excited is no blah here, as is proven by the amount of posts in this thread ;-) Please bear with me, if I am a bit confusing sometimes.

That said, I want this to be a venture of all of us, not just me. Sure, I could buy your grails in the US and try to make some money of you, at least in theory, but to be honest I wouldn't even have the funds to do so. I also don't think that this is the right way to do it.

I never quite got why no one from over here is doing the container thing. Well, the main reason might be that organizing the whole thing is not possible if you are not there. The second being that it is expensive, but to be honest, I think the first reason is the whole problem.

We don't have this problem. John is taking care of it - for free!

We do have another problem though. That's to do with how John makes his money in a deal like this. He sells games at NON KLOV prices. Not as high as some of the really crazy people out there (like a TARG for $1500 lol), but high nevertheless.

To make the deal work for John, we will have to buy expensive games from him. John, on the other hand, knows that buying all games from him isn't working for us. That's why he accepts games from other sources in the deal too. We can even store them at his facility!

Some of you stated they would rather buy all the stuff from John directly. I for myself am especially keen on buying stuff somewhere else (like klov). I believe a mix of both options will be best and John seems to think so too, as he pointed this out to me in the first place.

Sooooooooooooo. There are three options to get games into that damn container.

1 --- Buy from John. Easy and expensive.
2 --- Let me make deals for you with other sellers and pay me a €50 fee for every game that ends up in the container.
3 --- Go to Klov, Craigs List or your friends and order stuff yourself and get it shipped to John's. For, hmm, free.

Number 2 is meant to point something out here. John is making much more then €50 in every game he sells you. Me for myself I am after certain games I want like crazy anyway and even have a job ;-) So why don't you look for your grails yourself?

That said you don't need to. If you prefer option 1 or 2, well so be it.

Why did I choose some simple project management tool instead putting this in a forum thread and an spread sheet? Because I think that the possibilities of this deal are not covered by forum and spread sheet. And also because this would make one person doing it all.

I do believe in flexibility and transparency. I also believe that anyone should be able to choose the options most suitable to them. And this in turn means, that some real-time project management tool is the weapon of choice :-))))

I am serious regarding the €50 fee.

Please let me know if you are fine with all this.

Thanks,
Thomas

PS: Do you guys get mails regarding posts in the "news ticker" project of asana? If not please "follow" that stupid project, as I am posting possible deals there first. Kay?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 01, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
To put it short, yes I am perfectly fine with this.
Is John fine with games coming to his doorstep from others sellers (KLOV, Ebay)?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
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Is John fine with games coming to his doorstep from others sellers (KLOV, Ebay)?

Thats exactly what he offered and I m trying to make clear all the time lol  :pac: :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: love letter
Post by: ckong on July 01, 2012, 05:25:22 PM
..... Please bear with me, if I am a bit confusing sometimes.

You are joking!! I hadn´t notice that yet.  ;D

Anyway, I don´t understand one bit of Asana, must be my Age.  ;D

But I will keep following this topic, it´s an interesting read.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: skov on July 01, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
@Love - are you still getting a list of prices from John for the machines on the google docs list at some point?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 01, 2012, 07:54:03 PM
@Love - are you still getting a list of prices from John for the machines on the google docs list at some point?

Yes, waiting for feedback.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 01, 2012, 11:45:03 PM
Love,

When do we know if the cabinets we added to our wishlist in Asana or Google docs are ours to buy?
Can we pay them already to secure the deal or what do you suggest?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 02, 2012, 12:04:20 AM
Love,

When do we know if the cabinets we added to our wishlist in Asana or Google docs are ours to buy?
Can we pay them already to secure the deal or what do you suggest?

Google Wish list = what we want
Asana Games = what we can get

Assign to the games you want to buy in Asana. If someone else already did, you are too late. But you can ask them in the comment section if they really want it more than you ;-)

I want to wait with buying any cabs til I have feedback from John again. Garys games are secure for a while, no need to pay immediately.

BTW: will you guys please add you forum avatars to the stupid asanana please. Will look nice!

 :ghost: :pac: :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 02, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
Ok thanks for clearing it up :)
I can sleep well now.
Title: Re: love letter
Post by: chubsta on July 02, 2012, 09:41:54 AM

2 --- Let me make deals for you with other sellers and pay me a €50 fee for every game that ends up in the container.


For me that makes life a whole lot easier so i certainly think 50Euros for your efforts in locating a game etc is very reasonable!
Title: Re: love letter
Post by: Q*ris on July 02, 2012, 11:46:32 AM

2 --- Let me make deals for you with other sellers and pay me a €50 fee for every game that ends up in the container.


For me that makes life a whole lot easier so i certainly think 50Euros for your efforts in locating a game etc is very reasonable!
+1 but, Love, this is gonna turn into a full time job...
Title: Re: love letter
Post by: Love on July 02, 2012, 01:26:01 PM

2 --- Let me make deals for you with other sellers and pay me a €50 fee for every game that ends up in the container.


For me that makes life a whole lot easier so i certainly think 50Euros for your efforts in locating a game etc is very reasonable!
+1 but, Love, this is gonna turn into a full time job...

Hmm, maybe I should jack up the price? There must be a budget ceiling... Somewhere... ;-)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 03, 2012, 10:23:48 AM
Update: still waiting for feedback from John. Maybe he's on vacation. A couple of people over there are at the moment.

He's not the only container option anymore btw.  :pac: :pac:

Keep you posted!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 03, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Do you guys check the news ticker section on asananana? There is a $250 Kung Fu Master listed there and no one is interested?

I am already talking to th eguy and arranging the sale. If no one of the three persons in the list is interested I need to know! Now!

Please advice!  :ghost: :pac: ???
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on July 04, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
That's a nice price and it's working...
I'm up for it! Thanks :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
That's a nice price and it's working...
I'm up for it! Thanks :)

Bug bug bug ... please assign to it in ashanna if you want to buy it.

Thanks!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on July 04, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Done (I think)!
That Asana thing is too modern for me.
Where is the damn joystick?  ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 10:37:48 AM
Done (I think)!
That Asana thing is too modern for me.
Where is the damn joystick?  ;)

@all: No need to complete a task. Tasks are games here and they are not comlete until the offer is not valid anymore or they are at someones place in europe.

You want something? Just assign the task (game to you). Dont complete the task (game) as it will still have a long way to go til it is at your place.

Thanks everyone. And please check the "news ticker" section every day!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 04, 2012, 11:11:43 AM
Am I the only one who lost interest when things shifted to the this Ananas stuff ?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on July 04, 2012, 11:24:05 AM
nope, it's a pain in the ass and i was getting overloaded with emails, luckily you can turn that off..

Anyway, with all those other parties/dealers getting involved i kinda fear things will get too complicated, but that's just me...



Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: skov on July 04, 2012, 11:38:20 AM
Am I the only one who lost interest when things shifted to the this Ananas stuff ?

Same here, seemed so straight forward before, just wait for a pricing range from the US guy, then decide.

Plus the fact that we still have no clue where in Europe this is landing makes the decision to commit a bit more "iffy"
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on July 04, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
of course i'm still in for a nice Double Dragon or Gyruss (if the price is right)... let's hope things work out!  :D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on July 04, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Am I the only one who lost interest when things shifted to the this Ananas stuff ?

Same here, seemed so straight forward before, just wait for a pricing range from the US guy, then decide.

Plus the fact that we still have no clue where in Europe this is landing makes the decision to commit a bit more "iffy"

+1. Too complicated for me.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: joeks on July 04, 2012, 12:36:27 PM
Well, I have never worked with Asana before, but it is a nice tool to see all the status of things, updates on deals etc.
I must say, I don't understand it completely too. But as Love says, Look at the list and just assign the games you want.
All you need to do.

Checking it several times a day, with all the updates on offers Love is doing.
Hope this containerdeal goes through, prices are good!
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
Well, I have never worked with Asana before, but it is a nice tool to see all the status of things, updates on deals etc.
I must say, I don't understand it completely too. But as Love says, Look at the list and just assign the games you want.
All you need to do.

Checking it several times a day, with all the updates on offers Love is doing.
Hope this containerdeal goes through, prices are good!

Yes, this is pretty much it. I know there is a learning curve with the tool, but to just check for updates and assign to stuff you want should be possible?

Look, there are almost twenty guys involved in this already. Do you expect me to have in mind what everyone of you is interested in? Well I do have a job and kid you know :-)

If I put all this in a spreadsheet, the complexity of the whole thing is going to be a real pain in the ass. Plus where would you put comments question and pictures there.

That said, I want this to happen. So if some guys just want to buy games from John, okay. Leaves more room for others who want to look for stuff themself.

I have feedback from John and we will get his list soon. Lets take it from there.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on July 04, 2012, 01:17:57 PM
I don't understand Asananas neither but Love is putting a lot of work into this, and as said: all we have to do is check the list and click what we want... is this really too much to ask?
Move that damn mouse if you really want your games instead of complaining  ;D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 04, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
Uhhhh... if you can't manage a simple spreadsheet then how on earth are you going to pull the rest of this deal off ?

Sorry but I'm out.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 02:26:22 PM
Uhhhh... if you can't manage a simple spreadsheet then how on earth are you going to pull the rest of this deal off ?

Sorry but I'm out.

Thanks for the flowers. Well, I kind of wanted to encourage all of you working on this, to share workload a bit. If thats not gonna work out (as it seems right now), I will do all the stuff myself (for you) and charge a fee.

For the goddamn spread sheets, well, are you doing project management on a daily base? Spreadsheet is great for doing calculation, but it's a horror to work with if things are getting complex as it just does not provide different finegrained views on every aspect of a project. And it screems for email or PM as a second tool to do the communicating in and keep people up to date.

The asana project management tool is email AND a website AND a spreadsheet all in one place. Just without the numbers. And guess what, I put the numbers in spreadsheets and link them to there.

Ah whatever. If you are out you are out. If you are not out and want to buy something from John tell me and I will see to it.

And last but not least, if you guys just want to see a list of stuff to buy in a forum thread getting updated, let me know. Or even better let's vote. Just vote for "forum" or "project management tool" and we switch/stay to/with the winner.

Thanks, Thomas

 



Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 04, 2012, 04:04:13 PM
Is there really a reason to start cursing here ? I'm not offended by it, I'm not religious but other people maybe. I do find it out of place. I think I'm entitled to decide about staying in or getting out of the deal now. (Better now than much later). I mentioned spreadsheet because you did, but does it really matter if it's a simple list here in the thread, or spreadsheet or a database ?

Already you are mentioning not having enough time for this because you have a job and a kid (like more of us do).
That makes me doubt about how much time you are going to be able to invest to actually manage the whole deal. This is the reason why I choose to get out BEFORE I do any "damage"/go wasting your time, I think that is simply clear and the most honest thing to do.

During working hours I usually can only type short messages so that's why I was short, direct and clear.
Can't see what is wrong with that and if you loose your temper about a futile little thing like this I wonder even more how you are going to manage  this....

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 05:19:47 PM
Hmm, seems like I misread your post. You are referring to me maybe not even having enough time to maintain a spreadsheet, correct? Well, that idea didn't occur to me yet, and I feel I need to apolgize for chosing the negative interpretation of your post.  :)

I was trying to be clear too. Not offensive.

My basic idea was to set up for a container, not a bulk buy deal, as a container is what I myself do need to be happy. I thought it would be considered negative to also have to buy from John at high prices. Now it seems that it is exactly the other way around lol.

However, we can have both options in this deal, people buying from John mainly and others buying somewhere else. Why not? Makes it even easier.

I decided to also maintain a list on this forum and keep it up to date.

Cheers, Thomas

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on July 04, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
Uhhhh... if you can't manage a simple spreadsheet then how on earth are you going to pull the rest of this deal off ?

Sorry but I'm out.

?? Why is your name then assigned to the QBert?  ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 04, 2012, 07:31:23 PM
Because I don't understand how the Ananas works........ I already HAVE a Q*bert !

I just clicked on something because I thought I'd might get to see a picture...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Belike on July 04, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
Yeah, this program is a "bit" confusing, can we get a simple list with games/prices/condition/pictures to make it simple?
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 04, 2012, 07:49:13 PM
Because I don't understand how the Ananas works........

is "ananas" in dutch the same as in german? ;D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 04, 2012, 07:55:53 PM
if that is the same as the house of spongebob, then YES  ;D

(http://images.wikia.com/spongebob/images/0/03/Pineapple-house.gif)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 08:01:01 PM
Because I don't understand how the Ananas works........ I already HAVE a Q*bert !

I just clicked on something because I thought I'd might get to see a picture...

The name's savannah not ananas! Christ you guys are too old.  :pac: :pac:

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=savannah/gender=f/savannah.htm
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 04, 2012, 08:15:10 PM

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=savannah/gender=f/savannah.htm

WTF ???
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: polaris on July 04, 2012, 08:18:02 PM

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=savannah/gender=f/savannah.htm

WTF ???
+1

Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Superully on July 04, 2012, 08:24:59 PM
this is spiraling out of control :ghost:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Tup on July 04, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
Okay, good to know that I am not the only one who has no clue about how Asana works  :oops:

So I am assigned to the Kungfu Master (which I really really like  ;D ) but does that mean I also now am first in line to buy it? Coz it seems that there are several games wanted by more than one of us while there only is one cab available. How is it decided who gets what?

Here is to hoping that we can solve all this coz I am still very excited about the whole container-idea. It's a great oppportunity for us to get some very nice cabs/games.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 09:53:12 PM
Okay, good to know that I am not the only one who has no clue about how Asana works  :oops:

So I am assigned to the Kungfu Master (which I really really like  ;D ) but does that mean I also now am first in line to buy it? Coz it seems that there are several games wanted by more than one of us while there only is one cab available. How is it decided who gets what?

Here is to hoping that we can solve all this coz I am still very excited about the whole container-idea. It's a great oppportunity for us to get some very nice cabs/games.

Well you assigned it to you and therefore are first in line for this game. This assignment IS your commitment to buy this game. Also everyone knows about it. Basic idea was that you guys decide yourself who gets what by just assigning to games you want to buy. As easy as that.

What. Ever. I will switch to standard list mode soon and start a new fresh and clean thread. Than you can PM me or write a post in the thread with what you want I will then need to update the list in the post, or check who was faster than you and tell you that you dont get it, but you can ask this or that person if they really want it. PM back and forth for ever and ever and ever.

So be it.

Are you sure you cannot just click on "assign" and write your name? Really really sure?  :'(



Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Tup on July 04, 2012, 10:37:56 PM
Well you assigned it to you and therefore are first in line for this game. This assignment IS your commitment to buy this game. Also everyone knows about it. Basic idea was that you guys decide yourself who gets what by just assigning to games you want to buy. As easy as that.

What. Ever. I will switch to standard list mode soon and start a new fresh and clean thread. Than you can PM me or write a post in the thread with what you want I will then need to update the list in the post, or check who was faster than you and tell you that you dont get it, but you can ask this or that person if they really want it. PM back and forth for ever and ever and ever.

So be it.

Are you sure you cannot just click on "assign" and write your name? Really really sure?  :'(

Whoa, dude, I just asked if what I did was right. I never worked with Asana before so pardon me for asking you, who came up with it, how it works and for trying not to f*ck up all your hard work.  :shock:




Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 11:03:23 PM
Well you assigned it to you and therefore are first in line for this game. This assignment IS your commitment to buy this game. Also everyone knows about it. Basic idea was that you guys decide yourself who gets what by just assigning to games you want to buy. As easy as that.

What. Ever. I will switch to standard list mode soon and start a new fresh and clean thread. Than you can PM me or write a post in the thread with what you want I will then need to update the list in the post, or check who was faster than you and tell you that you dont get it, but you can ask this or that person if they really want it. PM back and forth for ever and ever and ever.

So be it.

Are you sure you cannot just click on "assign" and write your name? Really really sure?  :'(

Whoa, dude, I just asked if what I did was right. I never worked with Asana before so pardon me for asking you, who came up with it, how it works and for trying not to f*ck up all your hard work.  :shock:






Tup, we have a misunderstanding here. You asked a question and I tried to answer it. Not more.

As for the second paragraph I just try to make clear to everyone how it was supposed to work. Am I that bad in explaining? Maybe I am. I assure you that there was noaggressive intent or anything towards you at all.

Okay everyone, let's do it the old school way then. A list in post 1 of the thread.

Is this okay with everybody?

Peace :-)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on July 04, 2012, 11:22:59 PM
yep, please do.

Besides, Ananas is so user unfriendly that it even doesn't work with most mobile browsers, like mobile opera on an android tablet.

So, despite your great effort, ananas sucks.



Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 04, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
yep, please do.

Besides, Ananas is so user unfriendly that it even doesn't work with most mobile browsers, like mobile opera on an android tablet.

So, despite your great effort, ananas sucks.

Yeah it certainly is not wow. Not running on windows phone 7 either...


Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 04, 2012, 11:34:08 PM
Ananas = pineapple in Dutch and it was a little joke of me...

That system MUST have been created by people who formerly worked on Windows or something.....you need a degree to understand it...I like to spend my free time in other ways.

But I think that is pretty clear now.

About Savannah: I think I would understand how to use her  a lot better than how to use Asanan....jeeezz even the name is hard :P

OK gotta stop here....I personally don't like how you handled this. As so often, I was the first to speak up about the problems we had with Assassin and you try to make us look like dumbasses. I sure don't want to deal with somebody like that.

It's game over for me...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on July 04, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
André, I think that you are jumping to the wrong conclusion here. I'm sure that Love has nothing but good intentions, you can't deny that he is putting a lot of his time in it.
Sure, he will benefit from it when he suceeds with the container, his cabs will be in it afer all, but other forum members will also have a chance to get a nice game.

And about this stupid program Asana, Love chose it because he wants to make it as easy as possible for himself, which I totally understand, and give participants a tool to follow the deal. The idea is good, the chosen tool not.

But I'm sure that the now chosen old-school method of a simple list will be easy to handle for everybody. So let's see how this goes.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Q*ris on July 05, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
Okay, good to know that I am not the only one who has no clue about how Asana works  :oops:

So I am assigned to the Kungfu Master (which I really really like  ;D ) but does that mean I also now am first in line to buy it? Coz it seems that there are several games wanted by more than one of us while there only is one cab available. How is it decided who gets what?
Hey but I already assigned myself to that cab 2 days ago, check my post #122!
Damn, now I'm confused.

André, I think that you are jumping to the wrong conclusion here. I'm sure that Love has nothing but good intentions, you can't deny that he is putting a lot of his time in it.
+1
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
Okay, good to know that I am not the only one who has no clue about how Asana works  :oops:

So I am assigned to the Kungfu Master (which I really really like  ;D ) but does that mean I also now am first in line to buy it? Coz it seems that there are several games wanted by more than one of us while there only is one cab available. How is it decided who gets what?
Hey but I already assigned myself to that cab 2 days ago, check my post #122!
Damn, now I'm confused.

André, I think that you are jumping to the wrong conclusion here. I'm sure that Love has nothing but good intentions, you can't deny that he is putting a lot of his time in it.
+1

There are two KF Masters. You are assigned to the second one :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 08:54:25 AM
Ananas = pineapple in Dutch and it was a little joke of me...

That system MUST have been created by people who formerly worked on Windows or something.....you need a degree to understand it...I like to spend my free time in other ways.

But I think that is pretty clear now.

About Savannah: I think I would understand how to use her  a lot better than how to use Asanan....jeeezz even the name is hard :P

OK gotta stop here....I personally don't like how you handled this. As so often, I was the first to speak up about the problems we had with Assassin and you try to make us look like dumbasses. I sure don't want to deal with somebody like that.

It's game over for me...

Well, this tool is pretty average and has the same core functionality as so many other cloud based collaboration tools. Actually the founder of asananna did co-found Facebook before. As for Microsoft, there is not even Internet Explorer support, only an iPhone app. Sounds not very Microsoft to me.

In guess the lack of basic Microsoft age UI concepts is one of the reasons for the difficulties in adapting to it. Its based on simple text task lists and web 2.0 concepts like tags and following a topic etc.

That doesn't make it a better application though. No mobile IE and Opera support is pretty shocking.

Nevermind :-)
Title: ananas ---> trash bin ---> trash truck ---> trash dump
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 09:35:22 AM
Let's dump the ananas then. It's a bit sad though, as we just found a good name for it...

Oh well bye bye  :'( :-* :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on July 05, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
Great!  :D So when are you expecting to publish john's prices?

And i hope we'll be able to make a bulk deal because his prices are a bit off, I mean $900,- for a centipede without side art??
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 11:37:46 AM
Great!  :D So when are you expecting to publish john's prices?

And i hope we'll be able to make a bulk deal because his prices are a bit off, I mean $900,- for a centipede without side art??

http://www.rotheblog.com/2009/11/arcade/photos-new-arcade-game-museum-in-mclean-il/

Where did you see the Centipede and price?

I expect to get the prices and info by the end of the week, can't guarantee this though.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on July 05, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
On his ebay account. Also, he has a ms pac for sale with a 60-1, http://vintagevideogames.com/ price: €1500,-  ???

And as mentioned on the excellent rotheblog, john's well known for his great collection and high prices:

John Yates is a bit of an underground legend in collecting circles. Every couple of years, someone on one of the major forums will announce “I just found this guy in Illinois with a ton of games that is wanting to sell”. Some of us nod, as we already know, and then it comes out that he is looking to get what I would call ‘Christmas time’ prices for the games and everyone forgets all about it.

http://www.rotheblog.com/2009/11/arcade/photos-new-arcade-game-museum-in-mclean-il/

So it seems we deffinitly need a big group discount.  ;D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 12:05:39 PM
Yeah, he told me that he is gonna discount 10-15% on a container.

Aside of that he's okay with buying somewhere else too. Don't know if I already mentioned.  ;) :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: gyruss on July 05, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
okay, let's wait for his list and take it from there...
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: ckong on July 05, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
Yeah, he told me that he is gonna discount 10-15% on a container.

After a price increase of 20%!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 02:13:36 PM
Yeah, he told me that he is gonna discount 10-15% on a container.

After a price increase of 20%!  ;D ;)

I guess the increase to be rather 100%  :)
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
Some new games for sale:

DK Jr, Popeye, Wizard of Wor, Multi Williams
(this guy is pretty close to Johns place)
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=241460

A couple of projects
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap6pnZa-YG0fdFREbzBnTmxDalFyWTdzeW1lcTcxLWc#gid=0

If interested in something let me know.  :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 05, 2012, 10:45:19 PM
Someone interested in a rebuild Tempest cabaret? $700

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=241370
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: level42 on July 05, 2012, 10:51:11 PM
Want to make clear that Thomas and I settled our differences over this. Cause must be find in misunderstanding each other because of non-native language on both sides and the limits of letters on a screen...

I wish you all good luck with the entire deal as I doubt that a Mad Planets will pop up. For the Gravitar.......I hope to find one locally sometime in the distant future  ;D
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: kroustibat on July 06, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
Just my two cents. Did you thought that in order to enter in EU, a goods need to be labeled 'CE'. If you don't want all the cabs to be blocked at the toll (and worst , detroyed) , i'd advise you to ask to cut the power plug and ship them as defective.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 06, 2012, 10:01:57 AM
Just my two cents. Did you thought that in order to enter in EU, a goods need to be labeled 'CE'. If you don't want all the cabs to be blocked at the toll (and worst , detroyed) , i'd advise you to ask to cut the power plug and ship them as defective.


Thanks, that's certainly valuable info. I will pick this up with our partner in the US.
@everyone: Any advices, keep them coming.
Title: Re: US container interest check
Post by: Love on July 06, 2012, 12:10:47 PM
Hi all. I did open a new thread here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.msg52666#msg52666).

 :pac: