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Title: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
Hi guys!

I need your help. I don't know what to do ... got my hands on a Nintendo Space Firebird upright! Now that's a very rare cab and I could get it swaped for a generic mame cab. Till now everything is perfect. Usually this is a no brainer. I'd go for it! But then came the pictures. See below ... the condition is pretty bad. Control panel is pretty f... up. Two buttons missing (swaped with stupid generic buttons), stick is an 8-way. PCB is Rock 'n Rope :( ... sidearts missing, marquee missing. This has to go through a major restauration. At least the monitor seems to be the original Sanyo. What to do? Go for it and save this rare classic, even if it might take years to get all the parts or leave it behind??? I'm thankful for any hint ... I'm pretty mixed up.

cheers, prc
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
... more pics.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 01:03:58 AM
... last set.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PaulSwan on January 27, 2012, 01:36:25 AM
Not that major a restoration - at least the CP hasn't been drilled all that much. The side art will be the hardest to get probably, but with a SF PCB re-wired in it's be back to SF. Seen much worse ;)
Paul.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 27, 2012, 06:41:20 AM
i would if i were you.

i mean, a generic mame cab is not a big deal compared to a real ninty.
especially in europe..
the coindoor only is worth more than a generic mamecab  ;D
generic mamecabs are easy to find here

sidearts will be difficult, but many time the cab will be between others and then you dont see that.
and if there is a source, we can repro it  ;)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: level42 on January 27, 2012, 06:59:39 AM
Don't call that a ninty please .....

PunkRock....you are a sensible guy, look in your heart and you know what to do.......GET IT !!!!!!

Man, Nintendo cabs are rare by itself but this early style red cabs are even MUCH more rare. Honestly, I'd get it for the collectors value, its cool to have an early Nintendo. Not to sure about the gameplay but who cares. It looks decent enough to me. There are (sometimes) ways to get those burn marks fixed on the CPO. Side art is a bit hard indeed but you can live without it. Ifyou cant find a PCB you can still dedicated MAME it...
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: level42 on January 27, 2012, 07:02:25 AM
By the way, the serial plate shows -GM which I am sure stands for Germany. It is also mentioning 220Volts and not 240 as the UK one's, so this was meant for, and spent its entire live in Germany. Think its the first time I see that...
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 07:20:35 AM
Thanks guys. I will take it then ... Might take some time to get it back to its original beauty but it will be definitely worth it. The plate shows also the serial, which is 00084  :o so this seems to be a very early model. That guy got it for a gift from an old man who used to deal with cabs. He got a mint DK too!!!! The old guy had to leave the house (if I got that right) and gave the two cabs away for helping. Insane ... The receiver wanted to Mame that SF. That's when I wrote him a mail begging on my knees to keep his hands off that SF, my offer was to swap it with a generic cab with Mame installed. I think I made the right decision ;)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: kroustibat on January 27, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
as other said, a generic cab value is peanuts regarding a Nintendo cab, I'd not hesitate !
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: AusWoody on January 27, 2012, 08:36:51 AM
Great call. Very nice piece of arcade history there.

Generic Mame cab....Not so much.

For me, a lot of the fun of having these cabs is hunting for the parts, collecting them and then BAM, original restored cab :)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: liquidx on January 27, 2012, 08:37:38 AM
What to do? Go for it and save this rare classic, even if it might take years to get all the parts or leave it behind???


Well, the part most people seem to have trouble finding is the coin door, and you've got that there, So I'd go for it.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 27, 2012, 09:38:13 AM
........ marquee missing. .

a klover has 2 for sell:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?p=1954146&postcount=6 (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?p=1954146&postcount=6)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: gyruss on January 27, 2012, 10:29:09 AM
Damn, this is very nice, glad you're taking it!!
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Laschek on January 27, 2012, 10:42:08 AM
I might have a Space FIrebird PCB, not sure, would have to check.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
Wow ... thanks for all your kind words and VERY cool that there might be a chance to grab a marquee and pcb soon. Let's hope that it will be the Nintendo version. Sega/Gremlin also released a version of that cab after BigN dumped the rights because of the financial fail of the game. I will keep you posted ;) Please keep looking for that pcb Laschek! I will take that right away ;D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Muerto on January 27, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Like the rest of the guys said - it's a no brainer!
Man that is cool!!! - and if you get tired of it, you could always sell it to me.. My _Nintendos_ are getting lonely  ;)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 11:45:56 AM
I would swap it for an ICB  ;D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Laschek on January 27, 2012, 11:46:06 AM
Please keep looking for that pcb Laschek! I will take that right away ;D

Will do, but the more I think about it the more I'm afraid that I confused it with Space Fever (we had two Space Fever tables of which one was gutted)  :oops:
But I might have a Space Firebird PCB as well, I will have to dig through some boxes...
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Belike on January 27, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
Get it, before somebody else do!!! ;D
By the way, Roc'n Rope is a very cool game, you should try it out, one of my favourites. ;)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 12:22:14 PM
Ok, ok ... message understood.  ;D Note to myself: NEVER ask again if it makes sense to buy or swap something for a dedicated Nintendo  :oops:

@Laschek: Ok, do your digging, doesn't have to be soon ... I will pick up that cab in two weeks or something.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Belike on January 27, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
Andysarcade has a pcb for it ;)
http://www.andysarcade.net/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1553
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 27, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
Note to myself: NEVER ask again if it makes sense to buy or swap something for a dedicated Nintendo  :oops:

Always folow figure 2:

(http://www.quantonics.com/Quantonics%20Site%20GIFs/The%20Logic%20of%20Events%20Fig%202.gif)

which means if there is a offer like this, take it  ;D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
Andysarcade has a pcb for it ;)
http://www.andysarcade.net/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1553


 :shock: 150 Pounds. Ouch. I think I will wait, until Laschek searched his boxes ;D

@Etienne: Looks very logical. Let's see Mrs. Cavemans version of that diagram.  ;)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 27, 2012, 12:55:32 PM
lets hope she has the same logica as we have, which could very well be  ;D

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/10/29/2186f02c-bd5d-4d95-92b5-54e67967a870.jpg)

Sorry, i could not resist  :D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 01:02:47 PM
She is more into pinball. Man, that girl can play five hours straigt on that machines. We rearrange the living room at the moment, because she want's a Scared Stiff right there where our dinner table is at the moment. More wooden chunks for the basement could be a reason for endless discussions ;) At least it's a swap ... so no money from that Scared Stiff piggy bank is scraped ... till I find a pcb and the artworks ;D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Muerto on January 27, 2012, 01:25:10 PM
I would swap it for an ICB  ;D

Hmmm, interesting.. - but my ICB is complete and working...
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 01:39:20 PM
The SF is working too ... ok, not with SF but hey, maybe your loneley Nintendos would feel alot better standing next to an imcomplete SF instead of an stupid Taito cab ;)

Just kidding ... I took the challenge and I will end this mission. After that we see what happens. I will test the game itself on my mame machine (as long as I have it  ;D) tonight and decide if it's a good game for me or not. At the end I can't sell any dedicated cabs anyway after a while. Even the After Burner, which I hate regarding to gameplay (the cab is cool though) is still in the storage. Can't let loose because it's such a classic.
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Superully on January 27, 2012, 01:48:12 PM
nice rescue, joerg, and a fabulous swap - i'll keep my fingers crossed for you that it's going to work out. looks like the deal of the year so far ...
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: level42 on January 27, 2012, 02:28:52 PM
Ah, so Mrs.PRC wants a Scared Stiff in the living room huh.....mmm aha, yeah...mm-mmmmm
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: gyruss on January 27, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
lol  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: PunkRockCaveman on January 27, 2012, 02:49:59 PM
Hmmm that  one works better if I change "Scared" to "something"  ;D wait ... I'll edit my posts  :lol:

nice rescue, joerg, and a fabulous swap - i'll keep my fingers crossed for you that it's going to work out. looks like the deal of the year so far ...

Lol ... The year is still quite long. But thanks for the appreciation! The longer I think about that swap the more I'm convinced that it was a very good idea.  :)
Title: Re: Decision help needed
Post by: Vnera on January 27, 2012, 10:16:27 PM
Hmmm that  one works better if I change "Scared" to "something"  ;D wait ... I'll edit my posts  :lol:

nice rescue, joerg, and a fabulous swap - i'll keep my fingers crossed for you that it's going to work out. looks like the deal of the year so far ...

Lol ... The year is still quite long. But thanks for the appreciation! The longer I think about that swap the more I'm convinced that it is the best deal of the year!  :)

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