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Title: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 26, 2011, 01:09:10 AM
Hi All,
I'm sorry I didn't post for a long time but I had some troules wth my (ex) girlfriends and I had to move my staff... Don't worry my collection is safe :D with the exception of the Asteroids cocktail JUST COMPLETELY RESTORED (do you remember it SPeleo???) she wanted for her house.

Anyway now I'm beginning a Baby Pacman Restoration, here first pictures just for you hehe

Game is quite complete. general conditions are:
- MPU and VIDIOT with acid damage
- Ball is lissing
- Rubbers missing or worn away
- control panel rusted
- pinball target pictures in bad conditions
- scratches on side arts
- Coin door rusted
...

I'll keep you update :)

vernimark
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 26, 2011, 03:10:30 AM
Coin door...

Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on September 26, 2011, 06:28:53 AM
Great to see another Baby pac on DLF under restauration !

Welcome back marco !  :spaceace:
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 26, 2011, 10:06:37 AM
Hey great, another baby pac resto at the same time! You got yours in very similar condition to mine (technically and esthetically), so this is interesting!
Good luck.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Superully on September 26, 2011, 12:32:13 PM
hey, a VS restoration! who will come out on top? :P
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 26, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Ok, just downloaded "Eye of the Tiger". Should help.  ;D
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 26, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
hehe great!
but I don't restore my cabinets trying to transform them "like new", where possible I respect signs of time...

zapposh, this is a good site where to find infos about MPU. Baby Pacman manual is not so clear about some arguments...
http://www.flippers.com/bally-tips.html


Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Belike on September 26, 2011, 07:29:38 PM
Welcome back Marco, Baby Pacman rules, it is in the 3rd place on my wanted list. ;D
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 26, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
hehe great!
but I don't restore my cabinets trying to transform them "like new", where possible I respect signs of time...

zapposh, this is a good site where to find infos about MPU. Baby Pacman manual is not so clear about some arguments...
http://www.flippers.com/bally-tips.html




Well in that case your restoration is almost finished. ;-)

Thanks for the link. I have another interesting one too I'll send you over when I find it.
My MPU has such bad acid damage that I believe it is beyond repairing, even with a kit. The damage is much worse than what you usually see on the pics of eaten up Bally MPU boards. So to be honest until I manage to find a genuine replacement that is undamaged and fit an external battery kit, I think I will go for the Alltek Ultimatte MPU, which will hold in the same connections and has 100 yrs memory high-score saving without any battery power.
I know the hard core restorators hate such cards, but on short term it's the only way for me to get the machine going again without too much hassle. Once it works, I'll look into the genuine cards again.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 26, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
Here is the link I wanted to send you: excellent troubleshooting with the descriptions:
http://www.pinrepair.com/bally/babypac.htm

Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 27, 2011, 04:14:15 AM
thank you.
I have 2 questions for you:
In my Baby  Pacman the pinball glass is missing. could you take dimensions of that please?
I have 2 flippers that don't match. could you take a picture of your flippers please?

anyway:
In a couple of days I could repair both MPU and VIDIOT. today I just changed some 2n5060 on controller board, some cleaning and a new battery; monitor works too, so the game is completely playable.

Now I'm waiting for this: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230646734586&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230646734586&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)

and this http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230657230707&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230657230707&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)


this has just arrived: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330594857547&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330594857547&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)

Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 27, 2011, 09:23:38 AM
My glass is missing too. I'm having a tempered glass cut at the moment with the following dimensions:
536mm wide, 412mm high, and a standard thickness, between 4 and 6mm. I'll tell you if it fits when I get it. But those were the dimensions I found.

You can get all the decals you ordered in Germany, for cheaper, as well as screensprinted dropdowntargets from www.bestofpinball.de  (you can see the replacement of those in my restoration posts).

Great news for your boards that they will be working again soon.

Here are the photos:
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6173/6187732795_52e676bcea_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6187733071_66c989cddb_b.jpg)

And if you follow this link you will see all my reference pictures that might help you (it is updated almost daily):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55408069@N04/sets/72157627661296918/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55408069@N04/sets/72157627661296918/)


Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: gyruss on September 27, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
Man, the art on this baby is truly amazing, i love it!
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 27, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
Great! Thank you.
I decided to preserve the original playfield, so it is not so brillant like yours :)
I can see bestofpinball.de sells target replacements, replacements are better than decals :D
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 27, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
You are right to keep the original playfield. The blue color on it is much nicer. I could not as the playfield literally cracked/burst open in several places as it must have been subject to rain or other humidity.  >:(

Question to you:
On your third jpeg I have problem telling something:
At the bottom of the playfield, there where the ball lands when you loose between the flippers, the metal "L" is covered by a piece of transparent plastic. One can see a little of it on your picture, and the rest is hidden by the control panel.
On your baby, is the plastic under the left and right black pac-man & ms pac-man plastics, or above?
On mine it was above, but it looks and feels strange to me, and most babies I found for documentation don't even have this plastic at all!
I would love to see close-ups when you get the time of how your left & right black plastics have been fitted, as I somehow have the feeling it was done wrong on mine after someone played around with it.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 27, 2011, 12:45:35 PM
I'll take a picture for you this night
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 28, 2011, 11:38:53 AM
Hi,
is this picture enough?

Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 28, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
Excellent, many many thanks! So they did put the transparent plastic under, so effectively it was wrong on mine!
Could you make one more pic please where the black plastics (that can be seen on this photo) are fitted to the side black wooden bars, to see if they also have grey plastic spacers, or if the are screwed directly to the wood.

Thanks Vernimark! Also ask if you need something.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on September 28, 2011, 12:47:14 PM
 have grey plastic spacers, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on September 28, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
Great thanks!
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on October 06, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
this is the status now.
coin door: restored
pinball targets: restored
missing: new spinner and flippers and control panel restoration

here some pictures before and after

Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on October 06, 2011, 02:49:10 PM
in the last picture you can see the only damaged part of playfield
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 06, 2011, 03:14:21 PM
Thats looking great !
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on November 18, 2011, 04:32:30 AM
Hi all,
BABY PACMAN is quite finished, just a couple of details. here first pictures, i hope you like it...



regards,
vernimark
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Superully on November 18, 2011, 07:08:20 AM
looking very nice! this is the second pinball (after video pinball) which i would consider buying.
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Belike on November 18, 2011, 09:36:38 AM
Looks fantastic, I want one!!! ;D
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 18, 2011, 09:43:36 AM
Its amazing !
I played it at thorsten last weekend, and i liked it very much.

Also my son was crazy about it  ;)

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/babypac2.jpg)

If anybody knows a cheap babypac for sale, i might be interested  8)
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: gyruss on November 18, 2011, 10:14:40 AM
Indeed a great game and you restored it beautiful. What are those other games i see in the pictures?

@ etienne: did you get your camera back?
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: SeTTleR on November 18, 2011, 11:31:18 AM
Its amazing !
I played it at thorsten last weekend, and i liked it very much.

Also my son was crazy about it  ;)


Hehe you weren't the only ones.. I even caught Ully in front of it with his Camera in hand ;)
I also like this machine very much.. someday I will own one!

Great resto vernimark! The machine looks really really good. Have fun playing it!

@Etienne: Yeah what about your camera? Hope you found it somewhere. I can't think of anyone there stealing a camera!
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 18, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
[offtopic on]
Nope, unfortunately no, this was taken with my wife's camera.

[/offtopic off]
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on November 18, 2011, 01:07:34 PM
thank you... more pictures soon
anyway there are a couple of holes on one side and the wood somewhere is damaged but as you know I prefear don't remake at all the cabinet.

Other games are:
DEFENDER (italian version with proto sidearts)
STARHAWK
SPACE ATTACK
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: gyruss on November 18, 2011, 01:48:21 PM
nice collection!
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on November 18, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
thank you...
next week defender and baby pacman will be moved to my parent's house in milano where i have a sort of gameroom. and in that garage I'll put my cinematronics cabinets: space wars and speed freak (next resto)
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: zapposh on December 05, 2011, 08:43:48 AM
Oh, well done Vernimark! Your Babypac looks great! I have not been able to check in for a while so it's a surprise to see it working, and it surely is motivating.
Have fun with it.  :)
Title: Re: Yet Another Vernimark Resto: Baby Pacman
Post by: vernimark on December 07, 2011, 03:35:16 AM
it's VERY FUNNY, I didn't think that! I though it was yet another hybrid but that's not true, I suggest you to finish your restoration and enjoy with your new child :D