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Title: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:01:09 PM
Last week Ully posted a link (http://cgi.ebay.de/Videospielautomaten-Platinen-Bastler-/260779861825?pt=Automaten&hash=item3cb7b0e741) to our "cabs on ebay" section about a Zaccaria cab and some other stuff.
The seller listed a Super Cobra!!!, a cocktail table, a mysterious wall machine and some other parts in one auction and as I'm also looking for a nice cocktail for a while, I couldn't miss this opportunity. ;D
It was not too much interest for the lot, I thought it will be gone around 150-200 eur, but at the end it stopped on 62. ;D ;D ;D
Ully was so kind and offered his help in the pickup, but my Gf was faster, she arranged a transport in no time for a fantastic price.The auction ended last Sunday and I received the whole stuff today. ;D ;D ;D
First of all the mysterious wall machine:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtVwEyoEI/AAAAAAAADSs/T-xo8EyTNHo/s576/Cobra%20transport%20005.jpg)
It's a self made cabinet with an original Up'n Down Sega pcb
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcquEPrHexI/AAAAAAAADUg/uR3kw0HWELw/s800/Cobra%20transport%20003.jpg)
I turned it on, but nothing happened, monitor was blind psu didn't operate.

In the item description, there was something about a broken fuse, so I started to investigate that and found the blown one.
Second try and the pcb started to work, I can hear the sounds from the game, it is similar with the C64 version, it brings back nice memories. :D
The monitor still doesn't work, but it's a Hantarex mtc 900, so it won't be a challenge to repair the chassis, the tube seems like ok to me.


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:03:40 PM
uh, that's pretty ugl, but at least it's good for some spare parts! curious to see the rest 8)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:10:29 PM
The second one is a very nice japanese cocktail, there is no pcb in it, but looks complete.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtYUDWfXI/AAAAAAAADTM/B91JDt7aTK0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20015.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtY6a6PSI/AAAAAAAADTQ/UJMKBigkglk/s800/Cobra%20transport%20016.jpg)

I found this sheet in the cab, seems like it was a Sega Space Attack or a Head On (or 2 in1)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtZByaeRI/AAAAAAAADTU/10_vsWPgIwY/s800/Cobra%20transport%20017.jpg)

There was also an Electrohome monitor in the lot, but the tube had a broken neck, so I removed the chassis and dumped the rest.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcquEkmbFXI/AAAAAAAADUk/Z4SUUhpniWc/s800/Cobra%20transport%20007.jpg)
The seller mentioned, that there is also 5 pcbs for these cabinets, but that was not true, these are Bally and Zaccaria pinball pcbs, mostly soundboards
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtUOYhsSI/AAAAAAAADSY/vrkMvymD4NY/s800/Cobra%20transport%20018.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 06:19:16 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtYUDWfXI/AAAAAAAADTM/B91JDt7aTK0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20015.jpg)

Nice additions,

what is that label, i seem to remember that on your galaxian as well ?

Lauser or something ?


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:19:23 PM
I also received a Taito bezel, which was not the part of the auction, I guess it's some kind of a surprise ;D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtWQVac_I/AAAAAAAADSw/UOwT9i6wE9A/s800/Cobra%20transport%20008.jpg)
Any ideas which game is this? ???
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtWvnzxGI/AAAAAAAADS0/ECh-T6GTqm0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20009.jpg)
And I saved the best for last, ladies and gentelman, here it is, Super Cobra with the bended marquee and space station sidearts:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtXRlwwwI/AAAAAAAADS8/PN4VCuqxTAc/s800/Cobra%20transport%20011.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtYUQpDfI/AAAAAAAADTI/50dROBcUV8g/s576/Cobra%20transport%20014.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtYNBl-hI/AAAAAAAADTE/_sMcrtfwRrA/s800/Cobra%20transport%20013.jpg)

It has the original cpo with the chopper, not the Scramble style:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtXr-9p4I/AAAAAAAADTA/tqtvQLDVDZo/s800/Cobra%20transport%20012.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 06:20:58 PM
and a ladybug PCB inside ?  ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Level42 on May 11, 2011, 06:23:55 PM
Hope you also rescued the yoke from that broken CRT.

Plus the rubber wedges.

Plus the convergence strips.

The Zacc cab is worth that money alone, all the rest is bonus ;) Nice catch...wish I had a GF like that for arranging transports for me ;) ;)  ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:26:59 PM
I was almost sure, that the original pcb won't be present and I was right, it's converted to Lady Bug.(who was that idiot) ;D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcquD8K067I/AAAAAAAADUY/KnJaVvBTDs0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20010.jpg)

I turned it on, the game started, but the screen was also blind.
Another investigation followed in the chassis, some blown fuses replaced and here we go (handy pics, the screen is perfect)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqsxOM2S0I/AAAAAAAADR4/2HQtG8niEKI/s800/20110511221.jpg)
And with flash, you can see a nice star destroyer with the Lady Bug, insane lol ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tcqsw6nrEyI/AAAAAAAADR0/FSYm3NEKxfg/s800/20110511218.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqswqXrp1I/AAAAAAAADRs/zHZuBzObVtg/s800/20110511219.jpg)
Now the only thing I need is a Lady Bug to Konami classic adapter for my Super Cobra pcb. ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:27:11 PM
I also received a Taito bezel, which was not the part of the auction, I guess it's some kind of a surprise ;D
Any ideas which game is this? ???

i have the game that goes around it ;D

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/5710662700_b321262645_b_d.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
There was also an Electrohome monitor in the lot, but the tube had a broken neck, so I removed the chassis and dumped the rest.

was that an electrohome go7 cbo? if that's the case, would you consider trading it for my spare defender chassis?


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:28:58 PM


Nice additions,

what is that label, i seem to remember that on your galaxian as well ?

Lauser or something ?
Gustav Lauser is a german videogame distributor, it's like AVG, I think Ully can tell more about him.
http://lauser.com/index2.html


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 06:31:14 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcquD8K067I/AAAAAAAADUY/KnJaVvBTDs0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20010.jpg)
Now the only thing I need is a Lady Bug to Konami classic adapter for my Super Cobra pcb. ;D

This looks like a big ass Jamma connector to me..

EDIT:

Here the pinout for a Universal Board:
http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBug.txt (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBug.txt)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:35:30 PM
great catch, bela, glad i could help you out with your zaccaria mission! and what a price ... :shock:

The seller mentioned, that there is also 5 pcbs for these cabinets, but that was not true, these are Bally and Zaccaeia pinball pcbs, mostly soundboards

funny that the seller told me that when the three cabinets were working, he was swapping the 5 pcbs between them - i wonder how that is supposed to have worked with soundboards and pinball pcbs in video game cabinets :D




Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: DarthNuno on May 11, 2011, 06:42:58 PM
I also received a Taito bezel, which was not the part of the auction, I guess it's some kind of a surprise ;D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtWQVac_I/AAAAAAAADSw/UOwT9i6wE9A/s800/Cobra%20transport%20008.jpg)
Any ideas which game is this? ???
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcqtWvnzxGI/AAAAAAAADS0/ECh-T6GTqm0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20009.jpg)

Easy  :) It's Stratovox by Taito  8)

edit : Superully was quicker than me  :P


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:44:41 PM
Hope you also rescued the yoke from that broken CRT.
Plus the rubber wedges.
Plus the convergence strips.
The Zacc cab is worth that money alone, all the rest is bonus ;) Nice catch...wish I had a GF like that for arranging transports for me ;) ;)  ;D
It's still in the garden, I can dismount everything if you need something ;D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tcq8mRCUPeI/AAAAAAAADVY/YM8UxbcYXp0/s800/Cobra%20transport%20019.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tcq8msqooBI/AAAAAAAADVc/7RTsTowzt_c/s800/Cobra%20transport%20020.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
great artwork on stratovox - the marquee is even better than the bezel :arrow:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/5710707054_7786bc13d1_b_d.jpg)

man, if i had the space (and wouldn't live on the top floor), i'd probably be restoring 20 games at once :P

(sorry for derailing your thread, bela!)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: gyruss on May 11, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
Congratulations with all your new stuff, you must have the biggest Zaccaria collection on the planet!

@ Ully: Beautiful cabinet! Wanna get rid of it? ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
I've never heard of this Stratovox thing, but I like that cab. :D
That chassis is yours Ully, I won't need that Wg  anymore, I replaced the whole stuff with a nice Hantarex monitor. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: flip971 on May 11, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
@Bela: Good catch!!!! If You want give away the Lady Bug pcb, let Me know ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:50:53 PM
@Bela: Good catch!!!! If You want give away the Lady Bug pcb, let Me know ;) ;) ;)
I guess my Gf. will love that game until I pull it from the cab, I will let you know if She can let it go. ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:51:05 PM
@ Ully: Beautiful cabinet! Wanna get rid of it? ;)

for now, i'm keeping all my games, but if i'm not able to find a house / shed / whatever large enough to house all of them (which i hopefully will), i will have to sell off parts of my collection eventually. but i'm afraid i'd have to ask you 100 times more than i originally paid for the cab - which was ONE EURO ;D (an ebay auction that obviously noone noticed or seemed to be interested in)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Superully on May 11, 2011, 06:53:35 PM
I've never heard of this Stratovox thing, but I like that cab. :D
That chassis is yours Ully, I won't need that Wg  anymore, I replaced the whole stuff with a nice Hantarex monitor. ;)

thx a lot, bela, i'm missing one and this will come in handy. i'll have to check the condition of my stratovox bezel and if it's worse than yours, i'll have to make you an offer you can't resist. for now, thx again for the chassis offer, please put it aside for eurocade & mark it with a big U ;D.


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:55:24 PM
I've never heard of this Stratovox thing, but I like that cab. :D
That chassis is yours Ully, I won't need that Wg  anymore, I replaced the whole stuff with a nice Hantarex monitor. ;)

thx a lot, bela, i'm missing one and this will come in handy. i'll have to check the condition of my stratovox bezel and if it's worse than yours, i'll have to make you an offer you can't resist. for now, thx again for the chassis offer, please put it aside for eurocade & mark it with a big U ;D.
Ok my friend, but please note, that this bezel also have some wears, I can send you more detailed pics if you want. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: flip971 on May 11, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
I guess my Gf. will love that game until I pull it from the cab, I will let you know if She can let it go. ;D
Ok, no problem  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Btw. which part is the "yoke" of the monitor? :oops:
I know, I know, I'm a noob. ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Level42 on May 11, 2011, 07:18:43 PM
I actually forgot maybe the most important, the convergence rings :)

Here's a pic:
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/100937/Cobra-20transport-20020/web.jpg?ver=13051342140001)

To get this stuff, in this case because of the broken neck, wear some gloves for your protection.

Unscrew the screw that I indicate with the green arrow. No need to completely remove it, just loosen it a couple of turns to the clamp is fully loose. Try to remove it by sliding it up the neck.
Then do the same with the convergence rings. These may be glued together, which is OK leave that. If they are glued to the neck of the tube, remove the glue.
Be very careful as these rings are very brittle !

Now pull on the rubber wedges. They're glued to the tube (not to the yoke). Wiggle and pull a bit, don't worry the tube is strong at that spot (only the neck is weak).
The should come loose pretty easy.

Now, using both hands try to turn the yoke around a bit while pulling it up.. In theory ( ;) ) it should move up slowly. If anything is really blocking it's movement check for glue or maybe some extra screw (shouldn't be there, but I'm not exactly sure about this yoke...

Once you've got the yoke off, you can pull of the convergence strips. They are also glued with the same stuff as the rubber wedges.

If you don't dare to do it, no problem, it's not that I really need the parts, but they may come in handy for any use in the future (for you...or me, whatever you prefer ;)

These parts are getting harder and harder to find and who knows you may need them one day ;)

Just a shame to throw it all away with the tube :)



Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
Ok, I will remove everything marked on the pic. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Level42 on May 11, 2011, 07:30:35 PM
I added some instructions (edit, so maybe you missed it)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
I added some instructions (edit, so maybe you missed it)
Thanks for the detailed tutorial, it's true, these parts could come in handy one day. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 07:38:32 PM
Now the only thing I need is a Lady Bug to Konami classic adapter for my Super Cobra pcb. ;D

This looks like a big ass Jamma connector to me..

EDIT:

Here the pinout for a Universal Board:
http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBug.txt (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBug.txt)
I removed the pcb, the Universal logo is present, but seems like a bootleg to me.I'm not sure they used the same pinout as the original. ???
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcrHvJsJLjI/AAAAAAAADWc/vGAHwCgi9W8/s800/Lady%20bug%20pcb%20003.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcrHbJNNtNI/AAAAAAAADV4/GiSQTZN-MwM/s800/Lady%20bug%20pcb%20002.jpg)
And the oroginal
(http://www.crazykong.com/pcbs/G%20-%20O/LadyBug.pcb.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
the pinout of the bootleg mentiones a 22 pin connector instead of a 28 pin connector..

http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBugBL.txt (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=pinout&page=LadyBugBL.txt)

and that logo looks genuine to me, so i don't think its a boot and you have a original Board there..

don't be fooled by another look of the board, that could be a revision issue; here two different boards from my crazy kong, both original Falcon..

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/crazykong/fase1/8.jpg)

and what about the double boardset that Muerto has, also Original Falcon, and looks totally different too:

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/crazykong.jpg)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 08:42:27 PM
Thanks Etienne, I hope my old friend can make an adapter from these infos. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 09:20:50 PM
Congratulations with all your new stuff, you must have the biggest Zaccaria collection on the planet!
Thanks Pieter, but I guess Paul Swan has a bit bigger collection than mine. ;D


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 09:52:11 PM
I just checked the pinout from universal against the standard Jamma, and they are the same size, but different connections, so do not translate jamma to konami..


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on May 11, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
I just checked the pinout from universal against the standard Jamma, and they are the same size, but different connections, so do not translate jamma to konami..
Is it possible to make an Universal to Konami?


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: gyruss on May 11, 2011, 10:48:36 PM
Congratulations with all your new stuff, you must have the biggest Zaccaria collection on the planet!
Thanks Pieter, but I guess Paul Swan has a bit bigger collection than mine. ;D

I justed took a look at his website, very impressive! I still prefer other brands/style of cab's but i must admit they are kinda special.
I like Astro Wars, Space Pirate and Forgger the most. 


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 11, 2011, 10:59:25 PM
I just checked the pinout from universal against the standard Jamma, and they are the same size, but different connections, so do not translate jamma to konami..
Is it possible to make an Universal to Konami?

ofcourse, why not ?


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on June 01, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Installed a working monitor to that beautiful wall machine this morning.
Power on..............
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mQw1DXbqKNE/TeXghqYkmaI/AAAAAAAADgo/UeqxGZtpu-o/s640/Up%252520%252526%252520down%252520001.jpg)

Wohoooooooooooo, works great ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o_HKtDv7ZEE/TeXghVvOM0I/AAAAAAAADgg/bNcT7TxGi7k/s800/Up%252520%252526%252520down%252520005.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B30vvjIWiAY/TeXgy_ejnLI/AAAAAAAADhE/SuY_9MpKNdU/s800/Up%252520%252526%252520down%252520004.jpg)

It's a real fun game with a cool music. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: DarthNuno on June 01, 2011, 09:43:47 AM
I know well that game... GFX are really cute and so 'arcade style'... have fun!  ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on June 01, 2011, 09:54:32 AM
MTC900 ?


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on June 01, 2011, 11:40:41 AM
MTC900 ?
Yup. ;)
Anyway, it's too big for this cab, they used the cocktail size in it, the MTC 900  was just for testing.


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: PaulSwan on June 11, 2011, 07:03:41 AM
That's a nice Cobra, Bela. I'm not sure I have any Zac cabs that have the space ship on the monitor surround card - if you ever have cause to remove it, then please scan it ;)

Regards,

Paul.


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: Belike on June 11, 2011, 08:19:08 AM
That's a nice Cobra, Bela. I'm not sure I have any Zac cabs that have the space ship on the monitor surround card - if you ever have cause to remove it, then please scan it ;)

Regards,

Paul.

Actually they didn't use this type of cardboard too often, I'have only seen it on Vanguards.
I will surely scan it, no probs. ;)


Title: Re: A nice add to the Zaccaria collection
Post by: oldcomputerfan on October 12, 2011, 09:56:18 PM
BTW Level42 you said you played Up n' Down on the c64. If you remember loading the game from tape then you might remember this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phLzHizznSg