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Title: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 16, 2011, 04:15:20 AM
Hi,
I've updated the master list of Zaccaria video games to add corrections, flyers and updated pictures (thanks Bela!).

http://www.zzzaccaria.com/list.htm

http://www.zzzaccaria.com/list.htm (http://www.zzzaccaria.com/list.htm)

If anyone here has seen other games, parts of games, marques, flyers or has photos of any Zac game that's not on the list (or has better photos of a game) then please let me know  ;D

Thanks,
Paul


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 16, 2011, 06:39:17 AM
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Space Fortress   Licensed
Cinematronics
Star Castle Hantarex
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Vector Dedicated
Upright No complete machines are known to still exist. Zaccaria game PCBs exist.

Hi Paul , I took this from your list; but here is one that does exist...  ;D

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gamemuseum/game21.jpg) (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2381.msg29364#msg29364)
Click on the pic to go to the topic.

Time to update the list again  ::)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 16, 2011, 06:48:25 AM
Thanks for that - great that another has survived (except for the glass, but that's minor now of course ;)

Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 16, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
You have the best site on the net, congrats! ;D ;D ;D
What about this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TJxJFr3cWeI/AAAAAAAABxs/qL4Qbkxy0oY/s800/Amidar.jpg)

I will have a better pic from the Pac & Paint with the original marquee , I'm just waiting for my original bezel to arrive. ;)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 16, 2011, 12:25:09 PM
I see a new holy grail for belike: buck rogers ! I wonder if that star wars yoke was a factory thing or a hack !

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Photos/Buck%20Rogers.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Laschek on February 16, 2011, 02:18:08 PM
If anyone here has seen other games, parts of games, marques, flyers or has photos of any Zac game that's not on the list (or has better photos of a game) then please let me know  ;D

Thanks,
Paul


Just curious, are you sure there is a Zaccaria Version of Dribbling? I'm pretty sure that flyer shows the regular Model Racing version, you can see their logo on the top of the game.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Muerto on February 16, 2011, 03:20:08 PM
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Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 16, 2011, 04:39:48 PM
If anyone here has seen other games, parts of games, marques, flyers or has photos of any Zac game that's not on the list (or has better photos of a game) then please let me know  ;D

Thanks,
Paul


Just curious, are you sure there is a Zaccaria Version of Dribbling? I'm pretty sure that flyer shows the regular Model Racing version, you can see their logo on the top of the game.

Yeah, looks exactly like the one I've seen in the South of Germany ;)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 16, 2011, 06:11:15 PM
Re: Buck Rogers
It had been converted to Star Wars but the owner had all of the original BR parts.

Re: Dribbling
As noted, I think Zaccaria were just distributing it - the flyer on the archive is the same as the MR flyer but with Zaccaria logo & contact info.

Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 16, 2011, 06:17:08 PM
Re: Amidar
Thanks for the photo - I don't have that one. Anyone know if the Comidar/Amidar naming was a Euro regional variation? The marques look different so I wonder if only one of them is Zac and the other not...


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 16, 2011, 08:20:45 PM
I can only say that my latest aquired cab was probably a COmidar:
so i think that the comidar is defenetly a zacc
the other i don't know.., the "bend" marquee is also looking very "zacc"
I have no clue..

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/zaccraiders/23.jpg) (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2309.msg27870#msg27870)
Click the pic for the full topic..


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 16, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
I see a new holy grail for belike: buck rogers ! I wonder if that star wars yoke was a factory thing or a hack !

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Photos/Buck%20Rogers.jpg)
That's right André, it's like the Star Wars cockpit for you. ;D :P
The only problem is, that I will have to rent a flat for myself if I buy a cockpit, because all of the rooms of our house is full with aracde cabs. ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 16, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
Re:Comidar
The label looks like the distributors label, looks like 1983(?), that would be late for Amidar (1981). Since both Amidar & Time Pilot have mostly the same wiring, that would make the wiring in your cab mostly original for Amidar.
Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 17, 2011, 07:40:37 AM
No, that label is a Dutch license for the machine. The date on it is an expiry date. I'm pretty sure it's 1989 not 1983 on that one.

I _assume_ that they were valid for 5 years...but not sure....

Here's the one on my Centi:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=63654.0;attach=68421;image)

Translation:
Soort: Behendigheidsautomaat (Typ: game of skill)
Model: Centipede (No translation needed)
Fabrikaat: Atari (Manufacturer: Atari)
Serie/Type: CE106 (Series/Model)
Geldig tot uiterlijk: xxx (Expires: xxx)
Behoort bij vergunning: 000148 (Belongs to permit: 000148)

So, this is not the ACTUAL permit but kind of a representation of it.

Now if we look at the comidar we notice that:

1) The Centi and the Comidar license are only 3 licenses "apart" from eachother
2) The Comidar's manufacturer is noted as AVG (?)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Laschek on February 17, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
Yeah, looks exactly like the one I've seen in the South of Germany ;)

Yeah, and it looks exactly like the one in my game room  ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 17, 2011, 05:22:05 PM
Thanks for the clarification on the the label.
That would make sense then - likely Comidar was an AVG produced game in a Zaccaria cab. Seen a few AVG tagged Zaccaria cabinets.
Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 17, 2011, 07:56:54 PM
Thanks for adjusting your Avatar !! Now I can see who's who ;)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 17, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
A hungarian guy has a working Scorpion pcb in a Starsplash cab with the Scramble cp and bezel.
He is a Zaccaria pinball collector, he has all the Soild State pins Zaccaria ever made.
His own website with the pins and the Scorpion here (http://www.zaccaria-pinball.hu/?gep_ID=44).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TV2JSRxCWtI/AAAAAAAACS8/hfHj-IOVgqc/44_00004.jpg)
I tried to buy the pcb or the whole cab from him, but he is crazy like us and won't sell it. :-\
Maybe I can ask him to make a pic from the pcb for Paul's database.
It is rumoured that there is one more Scorpion pcb in Hungary at my friend's place, it's not working, but I try to put my hands on it next weekend. ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Alpha1 on February 17, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
Is Scorpion rom dumped?


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: ataritoobin on February 17, 2011, 11:42:33 PM
Wow - Scorpion supports the possibility of 9999 credits  :D !


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 17, 2011, 11:59:40 PM
I have a Scorpion PCB but it's not a Zaccaria one. I'd love to see a good picture of the Zaccaria edition PCB to see if it's the same as the one I have :)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 18, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
I have a Scorpion PCB but it's not a Zaccaria one. I'd love to see a good picture of the Zaccaria edition PCB to see if it's the same as the one I have :)
Stay tuned! ;)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 18, 2011, 02:45:35 AM
This one is the "IGR" one (the only one I've seen)...

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2003/pcbs/scorpion_igr_2.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 18, 2011, 10:08:31 AM
This one is the "IGR" one (the only one I've seen)...
I've heard, it has the same konami pinout as Scramble and the roms are swappable between the 2 pcbs. Is it true?


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 18, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Another "generic" zacc question for the experts..

I see lots of "konami" edge connector setup in the zacc machines, is this also the default wire-ing they use on the edge connector when it was leaving the factory ?

I mean i have a converter between my cab and my crazy kong and thats not a konami layout (wich makes sence)

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/crazykong/fase1/3.jpg)

and a better pic:

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/crazykong/fase1/15.jpg)

the reason i ask this is that i want to make my second zacc cab as original as possible for the future, and i want to "rewire" it, but in the factory default config if you know what i mean..

i then can make a konami - jamma adapter (or whatever) , so the wires in the cab can stay original.
 


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 18, 2011, 12:06:26 PM
As far as I know, they used the Konami pinout for the following games:
Super Cobra, Scramble, Scorpion(not sure), Hustler, Amidar, Frogger.
All the other games have unique pinouts, usually the same as the original they licenced (or copied). ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 18, 2011, 06:02:50 PM
The black lump with the screw on it is a security device of some sort. The PCB looks similar to Scramble hardware. Looking at connector, it could be a match for the Konami pinout.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 18, 2011, 07:38:49 PM
i have found this advertisement in the german "Automaten Markt" from 1985.

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5115/18022011414.jpg)

zaccaria has at this time only uni-cabs for sell.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 18, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
That deserves to be scanned...


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 18, 2011, 08:37:28 PM
I second the motion for a scan :)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 18, 2011, 10:51:04 PM
I have unfortunately no possibility to scan the advertising, sorry. :-\
In the next days i will take a look into the other "automaten markt" from 1978-1985 to see if I still find more relevant zaccaria material. I think there's much about it, many arcade related things in. if I find something from zaccaria, I will post it.


Many of these magazines I've double, and sell them for little money... 8)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 18, 2011, 10:58:22 PM
Oooooo, I'm totally interested !!!


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 19, 2011, 10:08:04 AM
ok, after reading in the magazines, here are the finds from 1981:

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/816/19022011430.jpg)
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8298/19022011431.jpg)

note: No zaccaria label on the advertisemnet, AVG was the importeur of zaccaria games in germany at this time


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 19, 2011, 10:15:27 AM
and the finds from 1984:

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2104/19022011432.jpg)
(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9375/19022011433.jpg)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9218/19022011434.jpg)
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5027/19022011435.jpg)
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6854/19022011436.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Level42 on February 19, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
COOL !


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 19, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Totally Love it !

Zaccaria Rulez !  :spaceace:


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 19, 2011, 03:17:19 PM
No.1., that Shooting Gallery rulez, I love those rifle games! ;D
Thanks for the pics!


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 19, 2011, 05:15:14 PM
Very nice - thanks for sharing!
Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 19, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
No problem. :)

If I have time in the next days, then i look at the magazines from 1982 and 1983 too. I think there one can surely find something...


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: italiandoh on February 20, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
As far as I know, they used the Konami pinout for the following games:
Super Cobra, Scramble, Scorpion(not sure), Hustler, Amidar, Frogger.
All the other games have unique pinouts, usually the same as the original they licenced (or copied). ;D

A friend of mine confirms that Scorpion uses Konami pinout too.

Matteo


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 20, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
As far as I know, they used the Konami pinout for the following games:
Super Cobra, Scramble, Scorpion(not sure), Hustler, Amidar, Frogger.
All the other games have unique pinouts, usually the same as the original they licenced (or copied). ;D

A friend of mine confirms that Scorpion uses Konami pinout too.

Matteo
Thanks Matteo, it's good to know. ;)
If your friend has the Scorpion pcb and want to sell it, don't hesitate to contact me! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: TimePilot on February 20, 2011, 08:08:37 PM
OK, and here are the finds from 1982 and 1983
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8536/19022011438.jpg)
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5347/19022011439.jpg)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9720/19022011440.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7140/19022011441.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 20, 2011, 09:34:13 PM
Ohlalaaaaaa, these are real rare ones! :o


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 21, 2011, 12:48:01 AM
I see a new holy grail for belike: buck rogers ! I wonder if that star wars yoke was a factory thing or a hack !

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Photos/Buck%20Rogers.jpg)

that was mine. when i bought buck rogers board was missing and control panel too, only original yoke was there. I converted it in a star wars until all parts had been bought or rebuild.
here pictures of restoration

http://www.vernimark.com/arcade/default.asp?PageMode=3&PageMode2=3&Tog=7&GameID=4#Game4

some years ago I trade id for an asteuroids actually i don't know where it is now



regards,
marco


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 21, 2011, 12:55:38 AM
addendum:

space pirate cocktail:
http://www.vernimark.com/arcade/default.asp?PageMode=3&PageMode2=3&Tog=4&GameID=358#Game358


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 21, 2011, 01:47:25 AM
Sad you sold that Buck Rogers, it has a very nice artwork. :-\
Btw. Thorsten has a brand new Zaccaria glass for your coctail:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ZACCARIA-VIDEOSPIELAUTOMAT-BEZEL-COCKTAIL-TABLE-TOP-/130489255006?pt=Automaten&hash=item1e61c4045e


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 21, 2011, 06:16:28 AM
I'd have traded you an Asteroids for the Buck Rogers, Marco :)
Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 21, 2011, 06:52:30 AM
Thanks again, TimePilot, this is great stuff. Will you get a chance to do 1980 and before  ;D ?

Ohlalaaaaaa, these are real rare ones! :o


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 21, 2011, 11:28:21 AM
I'd have traded you an Asteroids for the Buck Rogers, Marco :)
Paul.

in that period my cab collection was very poor and I needed some classics...
actually i don't know if I could accept today...
anyway yoke in that cockpit was terrible and buck rogers is not one of my favourite game...



Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 22, 2011, 12:43:18 AM
I've some ZACCARIA's PCB too but I think nothing unknown. Quite interesting is THE INVADERS, a space invaders bootleg with the possibility to have colour output. somewhere i have schematcs and if someone is interested I can scan them.

vernimark


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 22, 2011, 09:56:42 AM
I've some ZACCARIA's PCB too but I think nothing unknown. Quite interesting is THE INVADERS, a space invaders bootleg with the possibility to have colour output. somewhere i have schematcs and if someone is interested I can scan them.

vernimark
A guy from VAPS already scanned it, you can find it here (http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg238/ElgWako/#!cpZZ3QQtppZZ20) ;)
As I see on VAPS, you have some really rare Zaccaria pcbs(Cat'n Mouse, Space Fortress, Money Money), if you won't need them one day......... ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 22, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
you could try to propose some trades ;)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 22, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
What sort of games are you looking for, Marco?


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 23, 2011, 01:42:22 PM
wow two "triple zed" fans :)
as I told to Bela I can accept to trade those boards with something else...
I have 2 most wanted PCBs, STAR HAWK and SPACE ATTACK; SPACE ATTACK needs a new PS too

PS probably next month I'll meet one of Zaccaria Brothers :)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on February 23, 2011, 01:43:51 PM
I'd have traded you an Asteroids for the Buck Rogers, Marco :)
Paul.

I gave it to Andre Vossen


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 26, 2017, 07:51:46 AM
Just curious, are you sure there is a Zaccaria Version of Dribbling? I'm pretty sure that flyer shows the regular Model Racing version, you can see their logo on the top of the game.

Seems like there was an original Zaccaria pcb for Dribbling, just got 2 for testing. :D
Have no idea about the pinout though. :-\


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: PaulSwan on February 27, 2017, 01:47:13 AM
Take a picture :)
Thanks,
Paul.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 27, 2017, 10:00:58 AM
In fact, there is 3 similar pcb, one with the Zaccaria eprom labels:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4G6pxiRAgRiSRKweI31dsBWaXr0knYcYTCVdLOQYN2BWLFOlFbn81pqEHZwqZYZrHMrWpN-3lfatLMKkI9UPzWJI7zyMOt236YU2wxJYmJXFOScju5uUyUw2BiHK0oKWAnx5zJ-64ViGdJ_Ncj3o-vql3bCVoOQXP9mk3SB09QBMEftCqTXjI7Jxl7oHnoC1OHEbZVZ0g38CeXBfLJ3INLhDkGBjL-J4DcZ0vUOgFD32yjmwvay8k5VKjlqtZLWfhDn8ZmzEgv2pwK10s_2XsF09WkfBDIGn2-Islnz2dPPTQqwnmW3VnXt4L_5_aB_r1M-7gmQmBdUiOgZUFrHuZ5NXDKrq6U7bdLZA4yRYd9OOQ7tXvs2TUpH2dofQduAAXeUzF_BqDJ9ex3uqwpPTXHAKBqNBqo_-JuusPhE8MrTNScyllY_LL-ExCF5XfK_Zp5dMzf20z9yhAtUHMQ2eF2dQf_Bu1Lqr34cCvJFgcp4bAQOBi8Wdavm7NRYtgPm8FuexTWqfnUwtxtvOTZpgU40pQ28ts2UogRbz8vbgJLfZ6j2VCUrx6_C--5FFtypKK3xpmLdgbfKMxDT9XP42jjnld_AYJhD63pWhE-RhGv27rt5MploU=w1074-h604-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FvhorwB0d7iX5Ss4s9Vn6_MqZpDZpo-0bpSDtU_wAv6tye65_Mv4brquT1_ZXhMfEAx2nSqcYgqzgbpDSNQZ_UNtjx1XizBKbWE3xCf4PRC5rkRpKHrEs0xTlF4JN1H62wurfZdz521dJyctPJL0R-xLr8Jp0d0RRXRxaU3WUMKXsfEh9jn1qO4Q7NqcNKmb69aTCKAxKwkVnnHRdobkQsn1XiTzHVUIyzu0wEKZ5vwwJQkWeTiesEkG73eI0SBM_jrEz5raKQCI2Gi0V9D3KgWvlwJ7dXJyW4I1EhmrT4SzM-phjmqN5iCbXNtoFc_TMrU2vuVaNT9K4R73WJqzaFWIfxFteAvn8Rv-uvtvDbtyDbtQ3v2TJp1JsjfSTV7yJHN4TanO1WcQ-2sTypUq6tSkXnH8UjpsChgmAO-6vPOLGQgbVADd9rBfVJeXdLKBrxTDoJlCrJKPqN9LjOASWIO6H7iGZ7aLgPj7sXkW8bT6w6ToFG8NnRQbuHwNjmwdyW0Wj5vMwxlNvT7fbh51xr8dSlsu6EkggO6-YDyrhYTui54RNaHoKxQoYWMm8fpulIe3Kelfm7Iv9Dou-M4MCuVn-mPIQJeXt6tPtFaS3RW_vBtMyWE0=w1074-h604-no)

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Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on February 27, 2017, 10:06:15 AM
I found a manual with the pinout, but I'm not sure what is the +15V for, any ideas?
If the game starts without that voltage, I will try to make an adapter.
Also need some help from our italian friends, cause the pinout chart is half italian, I have no idea what is -ponte and the whole thing is a bit confusing for a noob like me. :D


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 07:33:27 PM
I have one complete space fortress.
It seems that space fortress has been released in quasar cab with the metal plate on the CP (what is in the picture is exactly what I have, with the glass of course),
while space pirate has been released into the cabinet with the starships. the flyers  represent both space fortress and space pirates in the starships cab but at this point I think paul's pics represent definitely the games format.

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Space Fortress   Licensed
Cinematronics
Star Castle Hantarex
MTR-V
B & W
Vector Dedicated
Upright No complete machines are known to still exist. Zaccaria game PCBs exist.

Hi Paul , I took this from your list; but here is one that does exist...  ;D

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gamemuseum/game21.jpg) (http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2381.msg29364#msg29364)
Click on the pic to go to the topic.

Time to update the list again  ::)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 07:43:51 PM
this "was" my buck rogers (http://www.vernimark.com/?cat=50) with my grandma wardrobe as background.
I traded it for my bertolino asteroids with vossen.  but this is a known story.

anyway the sw yoke over there is a small part of my shame-cab. I think all of us has a shame-cab in his life and that's mine. It was a multivector cab with a rotating control panel. Level1: trackball for quantum, Level2: buttons for asteroids/dx/gravitar/... and a spinner for tempest, Level3: sw yoke for SW and ESB

the first version had a vectormame inside with a ZVG, the second version had a rack of my vector boards. each board had an adapter I called "multivector adapter" (not a so original idea ahah).

After a couple of months the connector had a shord and burned a couple of my vector boards so I decided to dismiss the project.

I see a new holy grail for belike: buck rogers ! I wonder if that star wars yoke was a factory thing or a hack !

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/images/Photos/Buck%20Rogers.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 07:46:59 PM
Re: Buck Rogers
It had been converted to Star Wars but the owner had all of the original BR parts.

Re: Dribbling
As noted, I think Zaccaria were just distributing it - the flyer on the archive is the same as the MR flyer but with Zaccaria logo & contact info.

Paul.

just an addition

it had been converted in SW until I could collect all parts. I needed months to find a working buck rogers board and Christmas was on the door so I converted it into SW just for playing during vacations


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
This is the only one existing.
I talked with Natale Zaccaria in London last month; they just bought the boards from IGR

This one is the "IGR" one (the only one I've seen)...

(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2003/pcbs/scorpion_igr_2.jpg)


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 07:55:03 PM
Ah, I could see a ZACCARIA DRIBBLING converted in a mame multigame.

The owned didn't want to sell me the wood before converting it removing all original parts and I couldn't make any photo.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: vernimark on March 02, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
I found a manual with the pinout, but I'm not sure what is the +15V for, any ideas?
If the game starts without that voltage, I will try to make an adapter.
Also need some help from our italian friends, cause the pinout chart is half italian, I have no idea what is -ponte and the whole thing is a bit confusing for a noob like me. :D

Hi Bela,
do you want to sale me one of them?  :P  :P  :lol:
anyway I'll dedicate a couple of weeks to my dribbling MR/OLYMPIA boards just to understand which one works and if I can repair them so I'll answer you.


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Andreas_AUT on March 02, 2017, 10:22:27 PM
Zaccaria cabs are really beautiful! I like that buck rogers!


Title: Re: Known Zaccaria games
Post by: Belike on March 02, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
Thanks for the info about those Zaccs, especially from the Scorpion ;)
These boards are not mine, a friend of mine bought a huge collection of old pcbs from a former operator and he gave me some for testing.
There are more interesting and unknown Zacc pcbs among them ;D
I will document everything and publish it soon.
I think he won't keep all of these, he is rather  a pinball guy, so I hope we will be the Raiders of the lost Zaccaria pcbs. ;D
By the way, can you help solve the mystery what is + and - "Ponte" in the manual of Dribbling?
I try to make an adapter to test these, Paul informed me, that the +15V probably wont need, so I have a good chance to make at least one working.
Scheme here:
http://klov.net/manuals-videogames/D/Dribbling.pdf