Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: Superully on December 23, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
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let me start this restoration thread by shouting something out loudly :arrow:
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2 1/2 weeks of christmas holidays fun - i'm loving it!!! :-*
this gives me a lot of time to work on various projects - one of them being my recently aquired RALLY (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2222.0)
as always, i'm starting at the very bottom of the cab, but this time no old worn leg levelers to be replaced, but some rusty rails serving as the cabinet's legs
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5285323234_2c7eddf196_b_d.jpg)
in detail
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/5285323066_9533fe2dcc_b_d.jpg)
as you can see, a simple polishing job won't do the trick on those rails
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5285323138_743d4b363f_b_d.jpg)
so i'm wrapping them up ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5285322666_58c24d8b28_b_d.jpg)
... and off they go for a shiny chrome-plating job at my favorite metal finisher (http://www.rimmler.com/). it's going to take a while though, because those metal finishers are always booked out many weeks in advance, that's why i don't expect the package to return before the end of january (or even later). but i can wait - as long as the result forces me to wear sunglasses 8)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5247/5285322254_6f7784b504_b_d.jpg)
up next, the dirty hitachi television set
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5284726155_e63d8e7b29_b_d.jpg)
remember: the picture was a little bit distorted and shaky, after all that tv is 37+ years old. that's why i've decided to cap kit the entire chassis. the problem: i didn't have a manual and i didn't want to pull out all the capacitors to mark their values. i wasn't able to find downloadable schematics on the web, but i found something even better - and just in time for the christmas holidays it arrived :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5284724877_66691ace74_b_d.jpg)
inside, a photofact folder of the hitachi television installed in my rally cabinet
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5241/5284724953_0c760f390f_b_d.jpg)
this manual includes schematics, detailed hi-res pictures of all the components / parts and - of course - an extensive parts list. well worth its money! :)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/5284725309_142cc05876_b_d.jpg)
with that in my hands, i pulled the chassis from the tv and checked / unchecked the capacitors in need of replacement
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5284725687_aed55ef9e3_b_d.jpg)
with the help of the parts list (and a lot of good input (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=2263.0) from you guys), i made my own cap kit list and placed the order with rs online. a lightning fast delivery dropped something off at my doorstep just one day later! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5284725585_be2e7013c5_b_d.jpg)
inside, (hopefully) everything that will help me bring new life into that old television
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5084/5285322766_fb5d1c5e74_b_d.jpg)
up next: the cap kit and the control panel
to be continued ...
oh, i almost forgot it :arrow:
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You made a nice job for yourself for Xmas, lol! ;D
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i can't wait for the rest of the story ully ! :spaceace:
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Damn! that is some hard work + many hours laying ahead! - hehe, what else is holidays for? (HCG!!!!!)
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Recapping electronics is one of my most favorite past times .. ;D <seriously!>
Enjoy!
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Recapping electronics is one of my most favorite past times ..
and i totally hate it, because i'm not that well-versed in it. if you're bored, come on over - i have plenty of games which could use a cap kit!
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Come on Ully !, its a good practice to increase your soldering skills !
Seriously, I like it too, and if i was in the position of a "free man" i would come over to germany right away ;)
but (un)fortunaly i have a wife, son, job, and other things that keep me busy here :)
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Christmas Holiday will be Arcade Life Style to the max!!! :-* Go Uly Gooo :)
:spaceace: :spaceace:
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the restoration continues ...
because the capacitor delivery from rs online was lightning fast, i didn't want to lag behind with the cap kit. but before tackling that job, i had to clean up that filthy television set! here's a couple of well-loved before and after shots :arrow:
BEFORE:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5289478329_207753f22b_b_d.jpg)
AFTER:
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BEFORE:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5289477775_4d9fdd3c67_b_d.jpg)
AFTER:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5290081358_5d9012b109_b_d.jpg)
BEFORE:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5290082932_0aa7b114c5_b_d.jpg)
AFTER:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/5289477503_c2e1312837_b_d.jpg)
looking at the pictures i realized that there still was dirt in the plastic grills - so i took out the toothpicks and cleaned that out as well. the television is now as clean as it can be (or at least as clean as i'd like it to be - you can always be even more anal ;)), but believe me: IT WAS DAMN DIRTY!!! :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5290081840_68e0ecb1b6_b_d.jpg)
up next, i found some strange items swimming in my bathtub :shock: :ghost:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5290082446_1dd3c0a2db_b_d.jpg)
"what's that?", you might be wondering. well, since the cap kit consists of many different capacitors and i didn't want to lose track of the job, i took out an old assortment box, cleaned it up a little bit (in the tub), labeled the individual drawers and put the capacitors in there. nothing can beat a good filing system!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5290082360_863d2dfbb0_b_d.jpg)
then i set up a temporary working space in my kitchen ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/5290082776_63904d0f2c_b_d.jpg)
... and put up an overview of the capacitors and their locations on the chassis on the wall!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5289479169_93a19c20b8_b_d.jpg)
old and new capacitors side by side - still interesting (at least for me) to see those differences in size
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5289478539_0b83a0d552_b_d.jpg)
there were only two capacitors which i didn't replace: the non-polarized one (the big black one in the picture's background) ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5290082094_5e0e35c234_b_d.jpg)
... and a smaller one hiding under that metal cover. i could have removed the top metal piece ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/5289478871_2a4d937138_b_d.jpg)
... but would not have been able to reach the capacitor's legs without removing / unsoldering the counter metal piece on the other side of the chassis!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5121/5290082284_c70aa4dff8_b_d.jpg)
hopefully everything's going to work just fine WITHOUT those two capacitors being replaced! all in all, i removed and replaced 30 cabs in total - and i have to admit: IT WAS FUN!!! great music in the background, tons of snow outside, snugly cats sleeping by my side and the prospect of a wonderful christmas dinner at my mum's place in the evening :)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5007/5290082638_7fca5e55ac_b_d.jpg)
two more comments:
- i can't test the function of the television as of now, because my pcb is probably stuck in the snow somewhere! (more on that later)
- the "capacitor operation" went down smoothly except for one single spot where the fresh solder simply didn't want to stick to the solder joint. any suggestions on how to make it stick?
to be continued ...
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Clean the joint. en sand it a littel. Thats what i do...
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Clean the joint. en sand it a littel. Thats what i do...
clean it with what? vinegar? aceton? coca cola? malt beer? glühwein? ;)
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you can always add a little flux to the spot also (but sand it too).
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Yeah, or make a "bridge" with a piece of cable if it really dont want to stick
not the most elegant way, but if thats what it takes to connect it back into the circuit ;)
(http://www.klusidee.nl/Forum/userpix/404_11a_1.jpg)
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you can always add a little flux to the spot also (but sand it too).
how do i add flux? and what would you use to clean the spot?
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I persume you dont have flux in liquid form at hand..
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I persume you dont have flux in liquid form at hand..
nope! is that something i should get?
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normally not, is like the "harskern" (resincore) in your soldertin
it removes oxidation and makes the tin flow better
thats why i always say "add fresh solder" because i dont have flux around too ;D
maybe this pic is interesting...
(http://www.scienceprog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007i/Flux/solder_with_flux.GIF)
and for the learning purposes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY&feature=player_embedded#!)
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I persume you dont have flux in liquid form at hand..
nope! is that something i should get?
I hardly ever use it but it's cheap and available in most stores that sell other soldering supplies. It's come in useful a couple of times.
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today i received a package from santa claus andreas aka speleo who had offered to have a look at my rally board. his service was lightning fast because only one day after he had received my board i got an email telling me that the pcb had been repaired :o :)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5300478533_47acbdb503_b_d.jpg)
inside, the rally board along with a nice little christmas surprise :-*
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/5300479197_5cc75c27e2_b_d.jpg)
and - as a bonus - in case i'm still hungry, 4 small chips ;)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5242/5301073582_3795675e20_b_d.jpg)
although i was still not 100% done with the tv, i couldn't wait any longer and had to test both the television (whether the cap kit was a success) and the pcb (whether it's working flawlessly), so i set up a temporary rally test station :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5301073456_e7542a09bf_b_d.jpg)
let's fire this baby up :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/5300478967_6f05700930_b_d.jpg)
as you can see, i do have a picture and it's so much better than before the cap kit, although it still is out of focus. i'll have to check whether i can adjust that manually. or perhaps it is a matter of replacing that big non-polarized capacitor after all ...
unfortunately, regarding gameplay and function of the pcb, i'm still having some issues :'(:
- when i choose to play a game to 15 (with our famous SWITCH), the game sometimes stops at 11, sometimes at 13 and very rarely at 15. could it be that there is also a timer involved?
- the display of a one-player-game (where the computer blocks your ball with various walls on the left) is not correct, there are some display errors on the left.
don't get me wrong, i'm totally happy with where i am right now compared to where i was 2 weeks ago, but of course i want the game to work perfectly. for that reason, i've already contacted andreas 8)
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Great news and indeed lightning fast !
Anyway, focus is regulated on the flyback as i remember..
skip to 0.40 seconds..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5TiUYAss&feature=BF&list=PL160A60DABEA7973C&index=16 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5TiUYAss&feature=BF&list=PL160A60DABEA7973C&index=16)
dont know if this TV have this ???
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focus is regulated on the flyback as i remember .. dont know if this TV have this ???
thx etienne, but judging from the manual overview it doesn't :(
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focus is regulated on the flyback as i remember .. dont know if this TV have this ???
thx etienne, but judging from the manual overview it doesn't :(
There has to be a way to adjust the focus in case one had to replace the flyback. Don't you have the manual of this TV ? Try looking there.
Matteo
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There has to be a way to adjust the focus in case one had to replace the flyback. Don't you have the manual of this TV ? Try looking there.
i haven't found anything, but perhaps i wasn't thorough enough. i'll look again - if not i'll scan the manual!
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i haven't found anything, but perhaps i wasn't thorough enough. i'll look again - if not i'll scan the manual!
thats always a good plan, you never know what accidently falls into the shredder...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQs5hchKCAM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQs5hchKCAM)
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I HATE THAT VIDEO !!!!!!! :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil:
And now I'm even more feeling guilty that I need to throw away an original cab.
OK, it's empty
OK, it's ugly
OK, it's not a popular game
OK, it's parted out for a good cause
But I still don't like that I have to do it......
So if anyone still wants an original Exidy Circus cab.....won't be long until it's definitely gone...
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well, then i need to annoy you more Andre ;)
try this to the circus cab :
(http://thearcadeboneyard.com/files/century_burn_9_op_800x600.jpg)
And make pics of the "soaked with gasoline cab" on fire :twisted:
or better a video ! ;D
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Do you want me to be arrested Etienne ?
This is Holland, not the US...
But I admit that I thought about putting a load of fireworks on/in it for new year's eve :P
But getting rid of the remains would be a dirty job and I'd rather just deliver it at the "millieustraat" intact... :)
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Do you want me to be arrested Etienne ?
This is Holland, not the US...
But I admit that I thought about putting a load of fireworks on/in it for new year's eve :P
But getting rid of the remains would be a dirty job and I'd rather just deliver it at the "millieustraat" intact... :)
Yeah you are probably right...
we live in "everything fun is prohibit and regulated by law and silly rules land" >:(
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I can throw in these cabs for a big campfire, we can dance around it in new year's eve. ;D
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TRxXVCmpPKI/AAAAAAAACIQ/cwzjM-k77Iw/s576/t-molding%20001.jpg)
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First take out thats T moulding ! ;)
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First take out thats T moulding ! ;)
You can place a bet on that! ;)
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before you guys start to burn my thread as well :twisted: here's a short unhappy update
yesterday morning i started up the machine again to shoot a short video for andreas and to check voltages. the first thing i realized was that there was a display error on the higher numbers. then when i started a two-player game the ball, the player 1 paddle and the sounds were missing, the only thing i could do was move the player two paddle. when i flicked the switch for a one-player game, nothing happened at all :'(
i immediately sent out a cry for help to andreas and he asked me if i could send him EVERYTHING over - except for the tv and the cabinet ;), so this morning i gutted the cabinet, packed it up and brought it to the post office. if we're lucky, he'll receive it just in time for the new year! :)
ladies and gentlemen, may i present to you: one rally game :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5306445438_08a92b668e_b_d.jpg)
the cabinet is now completely empty - well, at least almost :-*
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5305853915_8fa2ce5917_b_d.jpg)
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Well , now nothing is in the way that may interrupt you while cleaning the inside 8)
And i dont know if it needs alot of "bodywork" , but that also is more handy when everything is out...
ps dont vacuum the cat :D
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And i dont know if it needs alot of "bodywork" , but that also is more handy when everything is out...
not a lot! i'll post more on that later. this is definitely going to be my cab with the least amount of bodywork!
ps dont vacuum the cat :D
;D like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYGqW0KuQiY&feature=related)? ;D
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the restoration continues ...
time to tackle the control panel - here's a shot of it in its rough original form :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/5339805802_9e3208141d_b_d.jpg)
as you can see, the writing in the center is still nice, but the areas around the player controls are not only dirty, but deeply scratched!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5339801680_5232f3e7c2_b_d.jpg)
there's a metal shaft (which blocks the knobs during gameplay) which prevents me from cleaning the control panel perfectly (and which hinders the continuing restoration process). for that reason, this shaft has to go! the question is: HOW?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/5339800834_083fc929a5_b_d.jpg)
let's have a lok at the back of the panel! you can see that the shaft is somehow bolted in, but it also has a thread inside, which means all i need to do is get it off and find a small enough screw to attach it again later ... piece of cake 8)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5339804440_b22dd527ec_b_d.jpg)
bring out the heavy tools! :twisted:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/5339803552_59b07ea671_b_d.jpg)
those should do the trick!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/5339801354_468c86f4d5_b_d.jpg)
yepp, works like a charm (for your info, the screw isn't screwed in 100% on that photo; when it is, it holds the shaft firmly in place) :)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5243/5339801922_bc2ac6485b_b_d.jpg)
here we go, a flat control panel! now the big question: how do we continue from here? well, i've done a lot of digging and asking around before continuing and here's where we stand: the panel needs to be cleaned thoroughly, the old paint / writing has to be removed, the control panel has to be anodized afterwards and once all that is done, rich from thisoldgame.com has agreed to silkscreen the entire panel for me (and it won't cost a lot because it's just one color). this is going to look brand new afterwards and it will be very durable :-*
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5339195509_5df3f2142d_b_d.jpg)
all i have to do is provide rich with a hi-res scan of the panel, he can get all the information he needs out of it! off to the scanner it goes ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5339927926_6a9f748c3b_b_d.jpg)
because the panel didn't fit on my scanner completely, i had to do it in two passes and stitch the two pieces together afterwards - it worked extremely well!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5247/5339807708_16eefc9387_b_d.jpg)
after i had rich's ok that he can work with that file, i started removing the old ink. i got a tip from the italian collector alessio who re-did his panel as well (with printed transparencies) that i should use aceton for the job. this stuff doesn't smell healthy, so always wear a mask and protective gloves and open the windows :ghost:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/5339191551_1c77b2a018_b_d.jpg)
you need a lot of elbow grease, but the ink comes off eventually
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5339193899_17ab58a773_b_d.jpg)
after using up a couple of those cheap chinese magic sponges ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5339191935_88d56f0462_b_d.jpg)
... here's where we stand! as you can see, the heavy scratches still remain (wasn't expecting anything else), but they will be covered for the most part by the players' knobs 8)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5250/5339191191_f37a3424a7_b_d.jpg)
same problem with the coin insert plate where someone scratched off the 25c lettering. unfortunately, this won't be covered by anything and if i sand it down i'll remove the aluminum structure. i haven't been able to find a convincing solution yet, but i'm working on it as we speak ;)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5041/5339804042_aeb97a0310_b_d.jpg)
this is where i stand with the control panel, let's see what the cabinet has to offer!
because it's completely empty, i'm seizing the opportunity to repair the damages to the cabinet. fortunately, it is in nice shape, only two spots on the front which need fixing: right above the coin door ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/5339796814_17bb240642_b_d.jpg)
... and on the lower left corner
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5047/5339183515_70f6887a70_b_d.jpg)
the usual "after the filling / sanding job" pictures (i've added a one euro coin to demonstrate the size of the damages)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5339184455_d9913daa9b_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5244/5339183143_87e6f63a72_b_d.jpg)
now, what to do with those spots? my first idea was to use different shades of brown pens to simply color the woodfiller ...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5008/5339188485_d719244ce0_b_d.jpg)
... but that didn't produce the desired result :-[ :lol:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5339184815_3062e546b5_b_d.jpg)
so i did what i always do ;): i ordered a couple of woodgrain vinyl samples (which looked like they could be a nice match judging from internet pictures - well, some are a little bit off ;D)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5049/5339184003_ca15a8a9d5_b_d.jpg)
i found one which was pretty close to the original - which left me with two choices:
(a) order a full sheet (1 square meter) of the stuff and re-do the entire front (which would have cost me around 50 euros because it's high-quality 3m stuff)
(b) try to find a piece within the sample which would fit in nicely with the surroundings (color and shapewise)
i opted for choice (b) because this doesn't cost me anything and i can always switch to option (a) afterwards if it fails! so what i did was draw a template with sandwich paper and copy it onto the 3m stuff (which i had cut into pieces so that the cut-out piece would eventually (hopefully) match the original vinyl best!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5339182243_fc50065266_b_d.jpg)
and the result was absolutely convincing!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5339182001_3fc7384bd3_b_d.jpg)
well, at least for the coin door area. it doesn't look as good in the lower right corner (because the brown on the left is too dark), so i will try to find some other woodgrain samples hoping to get a better match. but for now, i'm happy with that solution and you mustn't forget: this spot is in the lower left corner at the bottom of the cab, probably noone is going to notice anyway, but you should know me by now ... ;)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5339794390_fbd5e1b0ab_b_d.jpg)
to be continued ...
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Thats looking AWSOME !
ps why not drilled the "rivet" part of the pin ? it looks like brute force you used on the pin..
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ps why not drilled the "rivet" part of the pin ? it looks like brute force you used on the pin..
it looks like brute force, but in fact that rivet part was very thin, so all i had to do was press a little bit and off it came - very easy!
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and the result was absolutely convincing!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/5339182001_3fc7384bd3_b_d.jpg)
WOW! That turned out incredibly well! Nice work 8)
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Nice indeed!
But, Who needs a PONG, and who needs a RALLY??..
(http://i.imgur.com/4C9jQ.gif)
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not a lot of progress on this (but hopefully soon), i just wanted to let you guy know of the probably fastest delivery from the usa to germany ever - i call it LIGHTNING FAST!!!
because the pots on my control panel are not working properly, i need to replace them. the best solution i found were replacement pots from ram controls. while a lot of people (me included) had a loooooot of trouble with stuff from dave lately (mildly put), i tried it again with another email address from someone who is supposed to help dave out with his delivery problems. i got a reply immediately along with a valid tracking number and from here on out everything went lightning fast :arrow:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/5396081224_e7c6a228fa_b_d.jpg)
it took a mere 2 (in words: TWO) days from the usa to my doorstep! have i said "lightning fast" before? ;)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5395483833_7249b30d53_b_d.jpg)
inside the huge box, something not so huge :P
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5396081604_1186c6e12d_b_d.jpg)
and here they are: two brand-new freshly-manufactured potentiometers!!!
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5396081760_55069a6045_b_d.jpg)
if only dave and ram controls would work like that all the time. this time however, i can't complain at all, this time i reward him with an official seal :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5396086920_9ff53bcbc0_m_d.jpg)
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You don't want to know what it costs to get it over so fast....I'm quite sure he's loosing money on these kind of shipments/orders.
I've had the same with some of David's stuff...2 days.
But you made a wise decision. Those pots are even better quality then what f.i. Atari used for the SW yoke...you can simply FEEL it :)
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I know it's been years, but is there any updates on this. It was getting interesting.
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I know i have vectored the CP and Coin insert plate, but for the rest i dont know...
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man, it's been TWO YEARS!!! time flies ...
anyway, beleive it or not, i cleaned up my workspace this weekend and stumbled upon the Rally cabinet. Thought to myself "you need to finish this" - and this is what I'm going to do. It's been way too long ...
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man, it's been TWO YEARS!!! time flies ...
anyway, beleive it or not, i cleaned up my workspace this weekend and stumbled upon the Rally cabinet. Thought to myself "you need to finish this" - and this is what I'm going to do. It's been way too long ...
Yeah! another resto thread :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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finally, a real update on my rally restoration!!!
unfortunately, rich never came around with the silkscreening of the panel (and i probably have not pushed him hard enough because he's got so many projects he's working on), therefore i decided to go another route (for now). when etienne announced that he was going to do a new run of his aluminium stickers, he kindly offered to print the control panel text on alu as well - which i happily accepted.
today, something promising showed up at my doorstep :arrow:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8576913847_b1243d9544_b_d.jpg)
but i was only happy for a few second until i saw this :arrow:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8577935748_c938c454b6_b_d.jpg)
let's open it up and see if the alu pieces have been damaged as well
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8577935646_7e08d2a116_b_d.jpg)
DANG!!! >:(
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8576834531_9921920b5d_b_d.jpg)
similar damage to the coin insert stickers
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8252/8576834075_bcfbec0032_b_d.jpg)
fotunately, etienne had also printed a spare set for me which allowed me to practice a little bit. i've never worked with alu stickers of that size before and believe me, you have to be VERY careful, otherwise they are going to wrinkle quickly and you'll see every single dent / scratch immediately, so let's be extremely precautious here!
because the aluminium stickers are not transparent (and therefore difficult to align) and because the holes are not pre-cut, the first order of business is to hand-cut out the squares where the control panel bolts will eventually go through
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8577935326_64605a1812_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8576833579_a4314ea50c_b_d.jpg)
with the squares "opened", i can now align the piece of metal with the aluminium sticker from the back
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8576833885_ebdf8cc45d_b_d.jpg)
i like where this is going :-*! note that i've asked etienne to change the "25C" text to "TOKEN" because i'll be using my tokens to credit the game, not quarters!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8367/8576833697_017f8f684a_b_d.jpg)
this was just the warm up, now on to the control panel itself: protective backing removed, squares cut out - waiting for the metal piece
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8576833551_c5dec2f135_b_d.jpg)
only a few more holes to cut ...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8577934394_e27edf63ff_b_d.jpg)
... and we're done!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8577934468_0190af6d08_b_d.jpg)
looks like we have a winner!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8577934404_1490f2ab0c_b_d.jpg)
and what about that bend i showed you earlier in the corner? almost invisible, i can totally live with that!!!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8249/8576833109_ffb2d5b115_b_d.jpg)
i can't thank etienne enough for vectoring, adjusting and printing the overlay for me - hell of a job, my friend! i'm thinking of either spraying a protective film on top of the overlay OR a second layer of transparent vinyl on top, but i'll have to do some testing first, don't want to ruin the amazing result i have so far!
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I like it ! :pac:
very very nice results ! :spaceace: :spaceace:
the dent came out very well after all to my surprise.
It is indeed super fragile material, the surface really needs to be free of any debris, or you will see it immediately.
Good job Ully !
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Yeah, a really nice and smart replacement, congrats for both of you. :spaceace:
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Awesome stuff, as supposed to come from Ully :)
What about those rusty rails you have shipped in the beginning?
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What about those rusty rails you have shipped in the beginning?
you mean those? :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5285323234_2c7eddf196_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/5285323066_9533fe2dcc_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5285323138_743d4b363f_b_d.jpg)
well, they came back, but it took close to forever. but as we all know, good things come to those who wait and here are the results :arrow:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8580056287_6228a1523a_b_d.jpg)
unfortunately, the rust had eaten away portions of the metal, which of course shows in the re-plated rails. don't know if there's something i could have done like fill the holes, but honestly i don't care about it that much, i love the fresh shinyness of the metal and that's all the matters - nothing else does :P!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8512/8580056257_b14288ea08_b_d.jpg)
what do you think? would this have been fixable? would it have been worth it? after all, it's only the legs the cabinet is standing on ...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8581155986_84c315c703_b_d.jpg)
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Leave it like that, some original wear is a must have on these old classics. ;)
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Wow, you should have warned to wear sunglasses before looking at the picture! 8)
Really, they're looking great. Of course you could have sanded them down to an even surface but I'm with Béla here: leave them like they are now. At least a little piece of the cab should show it's age ;)
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Really, they're looking great. Of course you could have sanded them down to an even surface but I'm with Béla here: leave them like they are now. At least a little piece of the cab should show it's age ;)
don't know if i COULD have sanded every single flake of rust off, even if i had wanted to. and even if i had managed to do so, i would not have known what type of filler to use, because re-chroming metal pieces is a chemical process as far as i know and who knows what happens to the filler once that process has been initiated. therefore, i'm with you, guys, the rails looks nice and shiny, but they do show their battle marks!
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Yeah I agree. The only worry: won't the rusting go on from the inside ? Maybe they should be "Tectyled" on the inside ?
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Bump
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Bump
eh ... why?
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Bump
eh ... why?
Sorry... I wrote this in the wrong thread, but while I'm here, is there an update?
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Sorry... I wrote this in the wrong thread, but while I'm here, is there an update?
THERE IS!!! RALLY IS FINISHED!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
let me start with some old before pictures :arrow:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5237865373_074338bd6b_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5007/5237864625_17ba04479c_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5130/5237866057_65ae6d8fde_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5237866485_ae404c19ac_b_d.jpg)
and here's what the cabinet looks now: nice, clean AND fully working!!!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8637293779_6465456781_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8638398902_8d10ef0601_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8538/8637294003_408976505a_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8393/8638398774_1ea04b1554_b_d.jpg)
fully restored control panel (new controllers, new screws and of course hot new overlay)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8402/8638398166_75a14b6087_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8259/8638398560_e2c2536b9d_b_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8637292571_94e2037897_b_d.jpg)
time to play some rally! one player or two player - that is the question
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8396/8638397996_fc3ab1a6dd_b_d.jpg)
a big THANK YOU goes out to andreas "speleo" for taking care of the pcb multiple times and to etienne "macgyver" for re-drawing, fitting and printing the control panel. this game would not be finished without you!!!
thx to everyone else for all your nice comments, your input and your support - this forum simply is THE BEST!!!
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That is beautiful, well done sir!
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Sheer beauty !!!!! Congratulations !!! Definitly one of the nicer looking bootleg Pong's !
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I am in love !
Great work Ully (and andreas ofcourse) :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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By the way, IMHO this is one of the few exceptions where woodgrain looks GOOD and IN PLACE on a cab ! ;D ;D
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By the way, IMHO this is one of the few exceptions where woodgrain looks GOOD and IN PLACE on a cab ! ;D ;D
agreed (again ;))! and you should see that golden fiberglass bezel shining in real life when properly illuminated - it just looks awesome. what i like about that pong clone is that the cabinet is so different from other cabinets - both in design and size, to me it's almost a piece of art. i didn't like it that much at the beginning, but it's grown close to my heart :-*. oh, and by the way, rally will be 40 (in words: FORTY) years old in a few months. imagine that!
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Awesome, exactly we are probably a bit "conditioned" by the "standard" uprights we all know and love, and then is just something so different ! Yes the fiberglass is the "finishing touch" on it, that really sets it apart :)
Would be awesome to celebrate it's 40 birthday in september ;) ;) ;)
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It is not a Pong Clone, it is Rallye! :D
Looking awesome, congrats!
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I love these before after pictures :) love the machine too. I think it is a great sample of a "early" game. A true collecters item. Well done.
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Hi Ully,
nice to see it all put together - a showpiece.
My only wish would be to add 2 or 3 pictures from the interior :)
Best Regards,
Andreas
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My only wish would be to add 2 or 3 pictures from the interior :)
unfortunately, i forgot to take any pictures when the tv was still out and removing the bezel and getting the television out now it simply too much work. the only picture i have of the interior right now is this one :arrow:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8404/8639869158_4736e63279_b_d.jpg)
note that i've installed an on / off switch (cut off in the back on the left) at the bottom of the cab which was not there originally, but i wanted to be able to turn the game on and off without having to pull / put in the plug every single time!
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Very impressive job :o :o :o
Congrats !!!
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and here's what the cabinet looks now: nice, clean AND fully working!!!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8637293779_6465456781_b_d.jpg)
Great work. I'm glad you finished it, but I noticed, I can't see the paddles in any of the pictures, was the game in 'attract' mode?
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Great work. I'm glad you finished it, but I noticed, I can't see the paddles in any of the pictures, was the game in 'attract' mode?
thx guys, i'm glad myself that i finished it :D. and YES, the game was running in attract mode, no paddles there!
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This needs a cool video of it being played..... :D
Amazing job by Speleo on the PCB, since it has no processor these are tough babies to fix for sure !
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This needs a cool video of it being played..... :D
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So gorgeous!!!!!!!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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I also love the sight of the cabinet against the reddish background, it makes the cabinet stand out even better :spaceace:
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I completely forgot this topic....
Great work!!
I've to find a way to remake my RALLY Control Panel in the same way but I was thinking about a transparent printed overlay over the metal plate
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Great great work
really inspiring
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But.......where is Europe's favorite arcade game restorer ??
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:shock: :shock:
this is an amazing restoration
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Great work!