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Title: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 19, 2010, 06:58:24 PM
Hi guys,

Just wanted you to show that we at "Jamma the Hutt" ( Psykick and BeatmasterP ) are proud to say that we delivered some cabs for this exposition in Amsterdam.
It will run to the end of march and it will have a more artsy approach to what the role is of gaming in society and where it came from. Pretty cool thing to do and yesterday we were running towards the deadline and finished up our cabs. Here are some pics. For those interested, you can visit http://www.mediamatic.net/page/166500 for more info.

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00828.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00829.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00830.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00831.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00832.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00833.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00834.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00835.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00836.jpg)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 19, 2010, 07:27:18 PM
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/Psykicker/DSC00828.jpg)

Hey that looks exactly like my solder station   :D  Great to see you got "real" tools there  ;D

Also great to see that there are not only candies, a mrs pac and galaga and a breakout are good classics !


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Ronald Reagan on December 19, 2010, 07:58:24 PM
looks pretty nice afterall
BreakOut, Ms PacMan, Centipede. Quite nice


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: ckong on December 19, 2010, 07:59:58 PM
Nice line up Hasan, I love to see those great looking candy cabs. A real piece of Japanese Arcade History.  ;D

By the way, are all games, not only yours, on freeplay and freely playable? Are there also game consoles.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 19, 2010, 08:36:00 PM
Hi Erik, well the way to play is very cool! These guys are also pretty freekos and have built their own ID Tag protocol that they use for lots of stuff. Also for the cabs they have this communication device attached to the coin connector on JAMMA and when you put your credited "Iktag" next to it you get a credit on the game. Pretty high class shizzle ;)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on December 19, 2010, 09:16:05 PM
That looks like Rob's machines there. (Centipede, it's the Italian built one, Ms.Pac. Not sure if that is his Galaga repro too.

That Jet Rocket looks interesting !


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Superully on December 20, 2010, 06:39:03 AM
nice to see some classic games out in the wild again. this is going to be interesting to find out how much they get played in comparison to those plastic boxes cabs


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 20, 2010, 09:55:53 AM
.... those plastic boxes.....

I dont want to flame the candies, but everytime i see one i have this (http://wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/6.html) image in my brain  ;D


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Q*ris on December 20, 2010, 11:34:33 AM
I dont want to flame the candies, but everytime i see one i have this (http://wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/6.html) image in my brain  ;D
;) and the rest of Etienne's link (http://wickedretarded.com/~crapmame) is worth the read too, making fun of ugly mamecabs is always a pleasure!


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: kroustibat on December 20, 2010, 02:36:17 PM
the iktag integrated to the cabs is interesting, i always wanted to do such kind of thing. How is the cab integration done (communication box, sitting next to the cab)? is it possible to get pictures of the integration on the cab , i suppose it's not destructive.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 20, 2010, 03:49:54 PM
there goes nothing above the feeling of dropping a coin / token through the therefore mented coinslot  ;)
EDIT: (arcade technically speaking)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on December 20, 2010, 04:45:59 PM
there goes nothing above the feeling of dropping a coin / token through the therefore mented coinslot  ;)
Well I can think of a couple of things that do go above that feeling...but you have a point.

However, there could be a lot of problems for a public place (like this) that have these kinds of machines in operation with the coin-doors still intact.

Remember that these machines are still what they were: moneymakers to the eye of the government. You will still need permits normally for them.

I know people who have exhibited their machines in other places (and countries) who got into problems, or at least very lengthy discussions with tax-people, that there was NO need to insert a coin and the machine was on free-play.
I can see why they want to do it this way.
It also adds the (always popular these times) possibility to monitor the machines for statistics.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: DarthNuno on December 20, 2010, 07:59:04 PM
WOW, a Sega Jet Rocket (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gClZc5pvzc0)  :o :P . Working?


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 20, 2010, 08:00:59 PM
there goes nothing above the feeling of dropping a coin / token through the therefore mented coinslot  ;)
Well I can think of a couple of things that do go above that feeling...but you have a point.

You are right LOL , i have corrected myself ...  :lol:


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 20, 2010, 11:07:12 PM
.... those plastic boxes.....

I dont want to flame the candies, but everytime i see one i have this (http://wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/6.html) image in my brain  ;D

Well I don't really understand why, since the cabs that are gutted and mutilated are always the classic cabs.
That's why you guys always are hard at work restoring them  ;) :D

It will always be a matter of taste but you have got to come with facts and the fact is that the site you refer to doesn't hold one single candy cab in it if I recall correctly.
Wonderful site btw, excellent comms, you gotta love it, especially the way people molest these cabs and transform them into hideous machines  :spaceace:


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 20, 2010, 11:09:32 PM
nice to see some classic games out in the wild again. this is going to be interesting to find out how much they get played in comparison to those plastic boxes cabs

Sega Aero City cabs are solid steel  :spaceace: Don't be such a hater  ;D I dare you to lift one  :o


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 21, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
i did not say there where candies in that link, i sayd that when i see a candy i have this imagine in my brain
also i sayd i dont want to flame the candies, and it a matter of taste , it was not ment to be offending  ;) just for a laugh

but to be clear, i will post a comparison here then you know what i mean:

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/candycab.jpg)-------->(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/alsoacandycab.jpg)

see the resemblance ?  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D its the same pic, just a little different angle when they photographed them   :lol: :D :lol:


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 21, 2010, 01:39:34 PM
Muahahaha yes I can see it now, I never saw it from that angle  :D
Anyway I'm also pulling your leg, but I like that, some good sarcastic degrading humor hehehe  :spaceace:


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on December 21, 2010, 10:33:12 PM
Very likely I will be at the expo tomorrow afternoon/early evening (after work).
I'll have to bring (and fix...) Rob's Centipede trackball there ...

And some other stuff. I'll be working in 020 anyway so it's not too much of a problem :P



Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: ckong on December 22, 2010, 12:26:45 PM
Good, then you can tell us if it is anything good and if it is worth going there.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Blanka on December 22, 2010, 12:33:57 PM
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/alsoacandycab.jpg)

see the resemblance ?  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D its the same pic, just a little different angle when they photographed them   :lol: :D :lol:
Glad to see you guys know:
http://wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: kroustibat on December 22, 2010, 12:35:34 PM
Andre, can you do pictures of the iktag communication device integrated with the cabs ? thanks in advance  ;)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on December 22, 2010, 10:53:09 PM
Was there late afternoon. Installed the Centipede trackball. Works fine.
The monitor was out of sync though, fixed that.

Played Vanguard (for the very first time on a real arcade version !) and have to admit I was a bit disappointed !!!!
Love the voice and the sound though...

Played Badlands for the first time to: great !

While I was there, the Ms.Pac Man died !!! It showed a flashing "BAD" on screen (maybe a bad ram or rom ?)

Anyway, by Rob's request I had brought along the Ms.Pac (converted to Super Ms.Pac, or something like that) board that I had lent from him so I installed that one instead.

So, this shows exactly why I don't want to put my machines up there.....although of course they may also die "at home"....

The HUGE Jet Rocket wasn't working (notice the line around it).

The IKTAG stuff wasn't working when I was there, did get a pic though. Entrance is 5 Euro.

There were a good number of people considering the time of day.

It was good to see my Centipede Hi-score is still on Rob's machine, let's see if someone can beat it :D


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Psykick on December 25, 2010, 02:53:27 AM
How did you like my cabs? Any complaints? ;)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: gyruss on January 06, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
Just came across this article about the Expo in De Volkskrant:

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7444/expox.jpg)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4039/expo0001.jpg)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on January 06, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
How did you like my cabs? Any complaints? ;)
Which one are yours ?


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: ckong on January 06, 2011, 03:52:20 PM
How did you like my cabs? Any complaints? ;)
Which one are yours ?

The ones on the photo in the newspaper.

Gyruss, thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on January 06, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Oh....well.....uhm....I did see them.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 06, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
shame the photographer took a picture of only the face and hands of people playing, instead of a person playing a clear visible arcade cabinet, f.i. from the back.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: gyruss on January 12, 2011, 11:13:51 AM
I went yesterday with my brother. It was okay, i played a few cabs for the first time, which is always cool. Here are some more pictures.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6002/imag3288.jpg)

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4139/imag3296.jpg)

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5440/imag3286.jpg)

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/939/imag3299.jpg)

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9392/imag3280.jpg)




Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on January 19, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
http://www.zie.nl/profile/NUnl/ingezonden/Tentoonstelling-van-arcadekasten/m1fzvhwfh340


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: DarthNuno on January 20, 2011, 08:55:37 AM
http://www.zie.nl/profile/NUnl/ingezonden/Tentoonstelling-van-arcadekasten/m1fzvhwfh340

I see a Gotcha in that video. I presume it the one who was listed on ebay.de last year If I remember well? Who is the owner of this one by the way?


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Superully on January 20, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
I see a Gotcha in that video. I presume it the one who was listed on ebay.de last year If I remember well? Who is the owner of this one by the way?

i'm pretty sure it isn't! it went to the retrogamers in karlsruhe and i don't think they are displaying anything at the exhibition, are they? btw, i'm still mad at myself for not jumping at that gotcha, i made the wrong decision :'(


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Sonic 1992 on February 07, 2011, 09:36:04 PM
WOW, a Sega Jet Rocket (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gClZc5pvzc0)  :o :P . Working?

Wow, We recently went back to Cedar Point... And Saw This!  Yes! The were working fine... and I even asked the operator of the arcade.... Why are these still in here.. and not in a museum/collector's hands? He said They have been there since they were uncrated and placed there.. and the park has the same owners.  They consider them a part of the park.   Note:  I went up to them and looked them over... VERY NICE, almost perfect codition... Mainly due to the fact that no one gives them a look or play..  :'( 

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/DSCN2561.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/DSCN2562.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/DSCN2556.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/DSCN2558.jpg)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/sonic_1992/DSCN2557.jpg)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on February 07, 2011, 09:42:47 PM
Yeah, read about that place on KLOV etc.

I would nag the guy for HOURS, DAYS, MONTHS to sell me that Lunar Lander. Just until he says YES ! MAN IT LOOKS LIKE BRAND NEW !!!

And I'd take that WOW as well ;)


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Q*ris on February 07, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Dress as a technician and bring out that lunar lander on a trolley! No one cares for it anyway in there.
 :shock: :shock: :shock:
(and the light of that gameroom is way too bright, it might damage the sideart colors ;))


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on February 07, 2011, 10:57:24 PM
That Atari Hercules pinball is nuts !

In the very very early days of my arcade hobby I saw one and actually played it (a bit). It sucked in every possible way. Indeed, BIGGER is surely not always BETTER ! :)
It was for sale at the same place (and time) as the place that sold the array of NOS Nintendo red-tents.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Superully on February 07, 2011, 11:02:59 PM
That Atari Hercules pinball is nuts !

i've seen sascha's hercules pinball at the weekend. this uses up the same space as SIX upright arcade games! it's gigantonormous :shock: :shock: :shock:


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Blanka on March 04, 2011, 07:57:11 AM
Well compliments for the Centipede ball fix. That one was damn smooth! Only too slow for my feeling, but MAME may mix that up (I like its much more sensitive setting). The screen of the Centipede is hallucinating bright, which brings me to marijuana-pong in front of the toilets. I needed to pee, only to find out there was a coffee shop between the arcade and the loo with the weird name "smoke pong", where no one was playing, only smoking grass. I wonder what the people in my next business meeting were thinking.

Being treated very nice at Play Belgium last year, this expo was a bit of a down turn. The guy at the reception was not really a host, but mostly busy skyping on his applebook. I only managed to spend 1 euro on the classics, as many of them did not charge money at all. I'm not interested in all that fancy 2011 Facebook, RIFD, Foursquare tagging mambo-jambo, I just want to play good games.

As hand-held collector I was interested in this "new" addition for the last phase of the expo, but that part was really bad. I offered the guy like 15 doubles I have to play on (very nice ones), but he said no thanks I get 300 from someone. Well, that 300 are sealed in 300 bags, being mostly standard Nintendo's G&W, cheap chinese ones from 1985 and lots of GameBoys, hanging in front of the windows (if you want to check them, you better be the window cleaner on the street), and the 10 table tops are of the worst taken care off condition from Marktplaats I guess, not running, again faced to the street. The only positive part of this last phase of the expo is that I saw a Coleco Zaxxon in real, and I am convinced this is an ugly beast not worth the average 150 euro they ask for it, so I keep that in the wallet.


Title: Re: Arcade exposition in Amsterdam
Post by: Level42 on March 06, 2011, 11:16:01 PM
Well compliments for the Centipede ball fix. That one was damn smooth! Only too slow for my feeling, but MAME may mix that up (I like its much more sensitive setting).

Yeah....I thought about getting some other wheels (with finer meshed "holes") to quicken it a bit. I agree with you on this. On the other hand....that's how they wanted it to be ;)

I think the track-ball on my Centi is even smoother than the one on Robbie's machine however, that may have changed after all the play that it gets in being there for three months. I wonder how the rollers will look after that time.....