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General Chat => Artwork => Topic started by: Etienne MacGyver on October 24, 2010, 09:28:43 AM
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Time for a project guys! ;D
Some time ago i scanned the Crazy kong bezel for Bela.
He asked me a question;
"Hi Etienne,
Just wanted to ask you what do you think about this scan.
Is it good enough to make a vectorized file from it?"
I responded;
"I think its possible, i like to try to start learning adobe Illustrator, But as you know, learning and graphics take time, so if you are not in a hurry, i can try to do the vectorising.
so in this way i have 2 advantages, 1. Im learning 2. I can help somebody ..
I looked at the file and realised that the position of the buttons are critical, if not correct, he must modify his CP..
So after alot of mailing about measurements we managed to have the correct measurements for the button holes.
Also i send these measurements to muerto who has a namco galaxian too to verify the measurements.
The rest starts from here :)
First of all i want to thank my friend Bas from Laforma (http://www.laforma.nl) (click contact to see the dude's face ;D)
Who teach me the basics in illustrator, and also is the person who is going to show me to finalize the file so it is ready for printing, and helped me through this. Big thanks to you bas ! :spaceace:
A pic of bela's current beautiful bezel :lol:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/1.jpg)
The scan after modifications that i send back to bela and later to muerto.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/2.jpg)
The pic of the cab with the same measurements for verification (bela and muerto did a lot of "physical" measuring)
Thank you guys for that!
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/3.jpg)
When i did the global setup from the current measurements and using the scan as a refference, it looked out of position.
Time to build it from scratch in AI...
I created some shots of measurements and since Bela does not have a bezel, i send it to muerto who was kind enough to measure everything more than once..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/4.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/5.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/6.jpg)
After the basic shapes where ready it was time for the "galaxy"
To start i cut out the galaxy from the scan and later cleaned the file a little
The moons i cut out and run that through Vector magic, wich saved me alot of time since they are curved etc etc.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/7.jpg)
The stars in cose-up after vectorising
Later i can "throw" them in the bezel
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/star.jpg)
Then Bela send me another pic of a bezel as a refference, wich also had the extra text "manufactured by f.lli Bertolino"
He asked me if i could put that text in too.
Also i already created a custom instruction card, wich was very nice and accepted by both muerto and Bela, but as you can see in this picture it is not the original.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/8.jpg)
I searched for some fonts that looked like it and send some examples to Bela, and he choose one that i also thought was the closest of the set
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/9.jpg)
We compared it to the original wich looks like this
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/10.jpg)
After some "reshaping" the text its in position
also here was the custom instructioncard wich we decided to change
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/11.jpg)
I extracted the instruction card wich was in Bela's bezel picture and started to recreate the aliens
Here some before and after shots
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/12.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/13.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/14.jpg)
Now that my new friends where al together its time to give them a nice place in a new instruction card ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/15.jpg)
Since the original card did not have a "bonus value" i decided to put the factory default of 7000 points
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/16.jpg)
After all the text recreation and positioning i made a black border around it
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/17.jpg)
New instruction card in place
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/18.jpg)
As you can see i finished the bezel so far, and im now busy with a printer here in holland who can print on vinyl and bla bla bla bla bla so for now thats it, and ill keep you guy's posted when there are developments ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/19.jpg)
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what an incredible effort for the community, etienne - extraordinary job!
one thing i realized immediately though on the following picture:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/12.jpg)
the line on the alien ship where the red and yellow colors are are not thick enough in comparison to the original! ;)
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will correct that ;) thanks for the tip
Also if anybody has the correct color values, they are more than welcome, since i picked them from the scan...
I dont have any other refference..
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Always very brave to see people take these quests in Illustrator.
The world would have a lot less RSI and frustration if Adobe never started to bundle this Crap-App for free with Photoshop.
If you are a noob on vector-drawing, and want get to nice results fast, dig up a classic from the past:
www.freefreehand.org :D
With cp and bezel artwork, its famous "copy-paste inside" command is worth zillions.
I often say that Apple fanboys suffer from Stockholm Syndrome, but the ones that really suffer this are hard core Illustrator users. OMG, poor people!
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what an incredible effort for the community, etienne - extraordinary job!
one thing i realized immediately though on the following picture:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/12.jpg)
the line on the alien ship where the red and yellow colors are are not thick enough in comparison to the original! ;)
It has been corrected..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/correctedalien.jpg)
ps. i dont want to do flaming to apple users, but i am using the windows version of CS5
I am a die hard windows user :twisted:
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This......is brilliant ! Even though I don't own a Namco Galaxian, I think every, and especially this, piece of arcade artwork deserves to be saved for the future !
I hope the full art of Namco Galaxian will be done eventually.
How are you guys planning on making the repro ?
How is the original, I think it is glass ?
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but i am using the windows version of CS5
I always wonder how people can pay all those updates. Sigh. Still working on CS1.
Oh, and the two lines inside the galaxian are also too thick. I guess the outer line is constant thickness (it would make sense to draw the exterior shape, and paste four colour surfaces inside that), and the two black lines inside are half size or so. But it is splitting hair. The galaxian is probably 8mm or so in real.
One thing that does bother me, is the black trim around the instruction card. It suffers from the Illustrator round corner bug (it stretches the corners together with the rectangle, so the X-size is larger than the Y size), and I think it looks better if the black line is constant thickness (now the inner and outer path have the same diameter corners).
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Yes that was exactly what I wanted to say...
CS5......pay ? For home use ? mmmmm :D
Etienne, don't worry about your Windows hardcore feelings, you're still a nice guy, everyone of us has his weak spots.... ;D ;D ;D
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CS5......pay ? For home use ? mmmmm :D
I would want to sell those replacement stickers after that hours of work ;)
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Oh, and the two lines inside the galaxian are also too thick. I guess the outer line is constant thickness (it would make sense to draw the exterior shape, and paste four colour surfaces inside that), and the two black lines inside are half size or so. But it is splitting hair. The galaxian is probably 8mm or so in real.
One thing that does bother me, is the black trim around the instruction card. It suffers from the Illustrator round corner bug (it stretches the corners together with the rectangle, so the X-size is larger than the Y size), and I think it looks better if the black line is constant thickness (now the inner and outer path have the same diameter corners).
two more adjustments i need to do... :D
about the full set, i was planning a trip to denmark, when my new car is here, now since that is delayed till end of jan 2011 :evil:, i will not visit muerto untill next year.
but when i go there i will bring my scanner ;)
I have some tips from my friend bas, there is a printer who can print it on vinyl and laminate that for scratch proof, and the price is nice so im going to give that a try just to see how it turns out
the bezel is one piece of 3mm plexi according to muerto
unless i can find a glass company who can drill the holes i think i will use plexi
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2 corrections made...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/correction1.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/correction2.jpg)
It reminds me of a great 80's song by the way :D
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/zt3z0wXSZnM/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3z0wXSZnM)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/player.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3z0wXSZnM)
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As you can see Etienne was mastered himself in graphic designing, I'm sending my huge thanks to him! ;D
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AWESOME work (and post) Etienne :o !
Congratulation for what you've done so far... Impressive! :) This Galaxian version deserves it! ;)
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You're a super fast learner, G-R-E-A-T meticulous job!!!
Tip: To find the name of fonts I always use what the font (http://new.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/), it's very efficient.
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OK, turning anal mode on:
I think the font of this part:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/10.jpg)
is not very close....especially the Y for instance.
The font looks pretty general to me, since you're putting in so much effort now anyway, isn't it worth to do a little more hunting ?
Maybe the guys on the BYOAC forum (the Artwork section right here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/board,13.0.html ) can help ? There are some masters on there...
Just a suggestion of course !
Also, the text on the repro seems to be much wider in size. It starts almost right next to the white edge on the left, while on the picture of the original there is much more dark blue between that white edge and the left side of the text...
Anal mode off.....(this sounds......uhm......rather .......weird).
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that's the font you're looking for:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/~chrischris/arcade/eurostile.jpg)
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See !!! :)
Bingo !!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wow, this is great work Etiènne. And you are planning to do the side art as well? Superb. :spaceace:
Soon the world will be a Namco Galaxian repro art set file richer, and it isn't coming from the States. ;D
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that's the font you're looking for:
(http://www.thisisbang.com/arcade/eurostile.jpg)
Wikipedia:
The Eurostile (sometimes misspelled as Eurostyle) type font style is a geometric sans-serif typeface designed by Aldo Novarese in 1962. Novarese originally made Eurostile for one of the best-known Italian foundries, Nebiolo, in Turin.
Availability
Eurostile and Eurostile Bold (URW versions) were distributed with Microsoft Office 97, Microsoft Works 2002, Microsoft Home Publishing 99, Microsoft TrueType Font Pack 2. Electronic versions of these and all other Eurostile typefaces can also be purchased on-line directly from Linotype GmbH and URW in several systems, including OpenType, TrueType and PostScript.
Installing Office 97 in VMware now.... then i can extract it from there because i dont like this: ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/font.jpg)
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Heheh......smart AND legal too :)
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OR to keep it collaborative: you send me a scan of the text parts and I'll vectorise it for you, let me know ;)
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Took the original..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/10.jpg) transformed a little in Photoshop... (http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/10a.jpg)
rotated a little more in AI.... and placed the text there...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/manufactured.jpg)
and its ready for placement in the Bezelfile...
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/pixelperfect.jpg)
Will try to squeeze that in today ;)
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Wahoo !
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Corrected..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/bertolinocorrected.jpg)
I also corrected the instructioncard, and later will change the words "CONTROL", "FIRE", "1 PLAYER" & "2 PLAYERS"
Any other suggestions anybody ?
Yeah, yeah, i know , the period in the word F.LLI :wink:
This maybe sounds anal, but when we are anal, the more precise the result will be..
would really love to have the correct colorcodes.....
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:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Fantastic work !!! Congratulations Etienne :-* :-*
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........ and later will change the words "CONTROL", "FIRE", "1 PLAYER" & "2 PLAYERS".........
And also done :)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/moretextcorrected.jpg)
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No.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Looking excellent Etienne!!!!! - though mine does not have the:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/pixelperfect.jpg)
and, measuring in progress: ;D
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gm.jpg)
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Hah....great DLF forum efforts here ! This is COMMUNITY guys ! :D
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yep! - looooove the guys on this forum!, and as you say, this is why we all are here!!!!!
a BIG DLF-Famely! ;)
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measuring in progress: ;D
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/gm.jpg)
Love this !! , great pic!
by the way , do you want that i remove that part in your "to receive" AI file ?
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hehe, if you remove it, i would like to have both versions..... dunno if i´m going to use the one with the autograph on, as mine is not Italian made....
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sure, no problem, two files for muerto 8)
by the way , do you have , or have acces to something like this , so we can get the right color ?
(http://vbkpictures.prepublisher.com/OWNBIG/6/OWNH0286.JPG)
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yes i have...
I have a very good friend who is a master painter, ill call him and see if we can find the original colors!
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hehe, if you remove it, i would like to have both versions..... dunno if i´m going to use the one with the autograph on, as mine is not Italian made....
So.....is your Galaxian the Japanese version then Muerto ??!!??!!??
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Dunno, here´s some pictures, but i think it´s from Italy.....
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/torino1.jpg)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/torino.jpg)
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yes i have...
I have a very good friend who is a master painter, ill call him and see if we can find the original colors!
That would be Super with a capital S ;D
as for the marquee, i see the "made by bertolino" there,
does the sidearts have a mention of bertolino, like the sidearts of Bela ?
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/galaxiansideart.jpg)
it could be that this is a japanese cab with a replaced marquee
maybe some chance to figure that out by the serial number of the cab ?
it looks that bela needs this marquee, since the one he has now is a japanese...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TKH0J65ANzI/AAAAAAAABy8/pWP3o5I-u6M/s912/galaxian_latest.jpg)
while his sidearts say made in italy , this bezel too, and then he should take the bertolino marquee too IHMO
but thats up to bela
it looks also that the japanese marquee is black background, and muerto's has the same blue as the background of the bezel..
looks i have alot of scanning to do when i visit denmark ;)
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Hey look now what happened..... ;D
You got a "blue" bertolino marquee ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/marqueebertolino.jpg)
Credits for this marqueefile to chrischris ofcourse !
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Yeah, my cab is italian with the japanese marquee, I think you are right Etienne, it deserves the blue one with the Bertolino sign! ;)
Btw., there is no pic in your last post! :roll:
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fixed that ;)
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Belike, I will buy your Japanese marquee !
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@ Muerto:
A straight shot of this would be very appriciated on this side ;)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/torino1.jpg)
I now just copy - pasted the text from the CPO in there and did some sizing "by eye"
If you can provide that , then i can put the text in the exaxt position / size
Thanks!
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Here you go: (click on image for MACRO)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/italianII_007s.jpg) (http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/italianII_007.jpg)
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Belike, I will buy your Japanese marquee !
It's also a repro, I will take a pic of it's quality. ;)
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Good job Etienne! Please keep pretending it's difficult to do, I don't want to loose my job if my boss ever reads this forum.
You should upload your stuff to Zorg's vectorlib once they are done.
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Good job Etienne! Please keep pretending it's difficult to do, I don't want to loose my job if my boss ever reads this forum.
You should upload your stuff to Zorg's vectorlib once they are done.
@ Chrischris boss:
Its super dificult !, eats time and you should give your fine employee a raise ;)
seriouly, it takes alot of patience, dedication, precision, and skills if you want to do it correctly
and as i am still learning, i will like to get this skills one day..
dont get me wrong, but in general this bezel is just straight lines (read coordinates) and layers so as a practice it was a perfect quest!
It looks so easy... but i would say give it a try...
It looks like i am learning fast but i did not mention that i worked in MS publisher an MS Visio for many years, and i have some detail thing that i cannot stand it if something is a mm off, i think you guys know what i mean..
for example : Its like a painting in the wall that is not hanging "levelled", i cannot stand and see that ;D
its not a job for everyone...
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Here you go: (click on image for MACRO)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/italianII_007s.jpg) (http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/italianII_007.jpg)
Thanx !
and corrected :
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/marqueecorrected.jpg)
Now only the correct colors and i think we are good to go 8)
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;D
Etienne, my boss now asks for a copy of your résumé!
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he cannot afford me ;D
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...seriously, it takes a lot of patience, dedication, precision, and skills if you want to do it correctly
...and as i am still learning, i will like to get this skills one day....
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum2/anakin.jpg)
Is it possible to learn this power?
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum2/palpatine.jpg)
Not from a Jedi.
:arrow: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities 8)
;D Sorry...cannot resist! ;D
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NAMCO Bezel color codes...
Green: NCS 3040 G10Y
Blue: NCS 6030 R80B
Orange: NCS 1080 Y60R
NB! These where the closest matches
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lets translate that ;)
Here we go
Green:
Description Moderate bluish green
RGB Hexdecimal 439F64
RGB 0÷255 67, 159, 100
RGB % 26.3, 62.4, 39.2
CMYK % 58, 0, 37, 38
HSV 142°, 58, 62
HSL 142°, 41, 44
CIE-L*ab 58.9, -41, 22.8
XYZ 17, 26.9, 16.4
Blue:
Description Dark azure
RGB Hexdecimal 032352
RGB 0÷255 3, 35, 82
RGB % 1.2, 130.7, 32.2
CMYK % 96, 57, 0, 68
HSV 216°, 96, 32
HSL 216°, 93, 17
CIE-L*ab 14.6, 9.9, -31.8
XYZ 2.2, 1.8, 8.2
Orange:
Description Brilliant orange red
RGB Hexdecimal E23403
RGB 0÷255 226, 52, 3
RGB % 88.6, 20.4, 1.2
CMYK % 0, 77, 99, 11
HSV 13°, 99, 89
HSL 13°, 97, 45
CIE-L*ab 50.3, 64.5, 61.8
XYZ 32.6, 18.6, 2
Thanks ! :spaceace: :spaceace:
Will update soon !
is the orange of the marquee the same as the bezel ?
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And corrected..
are you sure about the green muerto ? it looks off..
i used the CMYK values..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/colorcorrected.jpg)
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CMYK is not CMYK. CMYK is the hardest to define colours in, as it depends on the inks used by the printing device. For things like this you better print a CMYK grid first, and then use the swatches in this grid to compare them to the original colours. Another option is to use the pantone swatches, and hope that the RIP of the printer does a good translation of Pantone to its CMYK.
Using RGB is also possible to define colours in, as sRGB is pretty much standard for most printers, but it is a luminescent colour space, not a reflective colour space.
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Im no pro, and do not have alot of experience with printers, but why do the blue and orange than look good to me ?
anyway, my friend is comming over to "finish" it and making it print ready , he understands what you mean with grids and terms like that.
well , i hope he does, because i dont know that ;D
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(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/9752230/2/istockphoto_9752230-magnifying-glass-on-the-cmyk-and-pantone-swatches.jpg)
It's this
You can find profile-less CMYK PDF's with all these squares. Just print it on your device, then match the colours and use the found numbers to set up the colours corectly. It is quite possible that orange and blue match better than green. Green is a difficult colour in CMYK.
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Ah, so let me see if i understand you correctly; i should let the print company that i have in mind, print this file, ship that printed piece to muerto, and he can compare the correct color, and then tell me the correct codes that i put in AI ?
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Ah, so let me see if i understand you correctly; i should let the print company that i have in mind, print this file, ship that printed piece to muerto, and he can compare the correct color, and then tell me the correct codes that i put in AI ?
If you want the best color, yes.
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Maybe a stupid question, but would this file be sufficient ?
cmyk.pdf (http://www.customtattoos.net/cmyk.pdf)
can let this print on the material i have in mind and then do the colorpicking with that as a refference ?
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First test is comming from the printer this week, will post pics then
also Zorg is hosting the files of this at http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/ (http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/)
Thanks for that Zorg! :spaceace:
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First test is comming from the printer this week, will post pics then
also Zorg is hosting the files of this at http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/ (http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/)
Thanks for that Zorg! :spaceace:
Impressive, very impressive.... ;D
In the name of arcade fans, huge thanks Etienne! ;)
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Etienne, did you post this (thread link) on KLOV and BYOAC forums ? I'm sure there will be at least some interest.... ;D
Even though it's a Euro art....
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nope, i did not
in fact i have a subscription there, but thats just for see the pictures or attachments ;)
I don't post anything there (yet...)
for now this is the only forum where you can find me :P
EDIT:
Untill belike36 explanes this last line will be like this ;)
But feel free to post there ofcourse 8) Great idea!
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nope, i did not
in fact i have a subscription there, but thats just for see the pictures or attachments ;)
I don't post there (yet...)
for now this is the only forum where you can find me :P
But feel free to post there ofcourse 8) Great idea!
I don't think it's a good idea........Please don't post it there!
I will explain it later why not!
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?
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EDIT:
Untill belike36 explanes this last line will be like this ;)
But feel free to post there ofcourse 8) Great idea!
just for people that only read new messages 8)
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A package has arrived at Etienne's place :)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/1.jpg)
because i do not want to put greasy fingers on the just printed artwork, i'm wearing the white gloves...
Its printed on 80 grams polymer adhesive vinyl coated with glossy laminate
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/2.jpg)
Carefully rolling it out, im curiouse for the result.
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/3.jpg)
The "Bertolino" part turned out nice
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/4.jpg)
Look honey, this is where i spend all that time working on ;) (my wife took the pictures)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/5.jpg)
The "instructions" part looks also ok to me
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/6.jpg)
The color difference in the edges is the part that needs to be cut off after installing it on the plexi
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/7.jpg)
Overall not a bad result, but i think next run i will try it on 80 grams monomer vinyl without the coating and see what the results are then
those are the only two options for "stickervinyl" that this printer has
maybe they also have other stuff, but i dont know the name of the stuff that the reproguys use to print CPO's on
does anybody here know the name of that stuff ?
for now , thisone will be send over to Bela with the help of chris and gyruss (since chris will visit gyruss for the monitors) and chris will pass it to belas brother in belgium.
When Bela receives it he can decide to use it or not :D
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Looks great from here!!! ;D ;D ;D
Is it for the front side of the plexi, or it has to be mounted on the back?
Btw, many, many thanks for spending your time to let this happen, you made arcade history! ;)
Huge thanks also to Chris and Pieter to pass it to my brother! :-*
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it has the adhesive on the backside, so you stick it on top.
according to theyre site ;
- Polymeer wordt gebruikt voor meer langdurige toepassingen op vlakke en lichtgebogen ondergronden voor binnen en buiten. Permanente hechting.
2 tot 3 jaar kleefkracht.
De polymeer soort kan eveneens gelamineerd worden, dit zorgt ervoor dat het materiaal eveneens krasvast wordt
in english;
Polymer is beeing used for longterm applications on flat and light curved surfaces for in and outside use.
permanent adhesive. 2-3 years adhesive untill application.
the polymer can also be laminated wich will make the material scratchproof.
the last part gave me the idea to use this because of the top application and the controlpanel use.
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Ok, thanks!
Can't wait to touch it, also with gloves of course! ;D
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Another package has arrived at Etienne's place :)
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/dhl.jpg)
as i was not satisfied about the black in the print, it looked a little "very dark grey"
I send a email to customer support of the printer and explained that when i converted it to PDF it looked grey in the PDF
Also i mentioned to them that i ajusted the black to the correct values in the PDF after converting.
i asked them if they can check my file to see that my black is really black, and if not if they can ajust it so the black is black.
and after that make a reprint for me wich i wanted to pay ofcourse since it was maybe a error in the file
are you still folowing me :D
So i received a mail back and later they called me on my cell.
They checked the file and say that there was nothing wrong with the black, and because of that they will do a free reprint .
Very good customerservice if you ask me.
Anyway, i received it today so its time for pics :D
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/reprint1.jpg)
Instruction part..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/reprint2.jpg)
One - two player part..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/reprint3.jpg)
The black looks alot better than the first print as i remember it.
I cannot compare them next to eachother since the first is already at gyruss's place..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/reprint4.jpg)
I hope to get them in time to gyruss or chrischris so thisone can also go to hungary
When Bela receives it he can decide wichone to use or neither one of them :D
Maybe one of them will mysterious finds his way to denmark... ;)
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You found a really friendly company, a free reprint could never happen in Hungary!
This one looks great as I see from the pics! ;D
Thhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkkkssssssssssssssss! ;D
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what a great effort, etienne!!!
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a mix of CMYK percentages (=rich black) looks nicer for this kind of print than just a 100%K print.
Maybe that's what happened here.
Anyway it's cool that it worked out and that you got that free reprint, I'll make sur to take it along with me for Béla on December 20th.
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Yes, thats what my friend told me too when he verified my files before i send them.
he recomended these values for black:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/cmyk.jpg)
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great work (as always), ;) and the one you showed me was already looking very good!
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Etienne, can you PM me about where you have had this printed ?
It looks great !!!
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Sure, PM sent..
but i am also busy with another that can print straight to plexi... ;)
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but i am also busy with another that can print straight to plexi... ;)
huh, that sounds interesting! could use it for my jungle king bezel. keep us posted please
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Ooooh....if it's very good quality I might be able to replace/restore my Berzerk bezel ! :)
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I am at my customer now, and i received a call on my cell that the print that i ordered was ready for pickup.
I was investigating other options since the first prints did not pass the "Etienne's high quality control check" ;D
it looked like a inkjet print wich was laminated afterwards (logic) and it looked like there are minescule airbubbles, like a orangeskin.
So i gave it a try at another printer who was adviced to me by a good customer who does all his printing there..
Anyway, the printer is close to where i am working now, so me and the customer went for a drive 8)
We picked up the print and here i am back in the office..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint1.jpg)
I was in evaluation with them for different options, and the final result is printed on transparent adhesive vinyl.
The printer and i discussed the option of printing straight to plexi, but he adviced me to go this way since printing straight to plexi is very difficult and would not give the desired result in the end.
I folowed his advice (who am i to judge a man with years of experience ;))
So the print is as folows:
printed in mirror on the non adhesive side of the transparent vinyl with a white laminate over that to prevent transparancy.
The vinyl must be sticked to the back of the plexi, and you will not see the adhesive he says..
Here it is , not much to see with the adhesive side covered....
also the back is totally white so nothing to see in the back neither..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint2.jpg)
Instructions label area..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint3.jpg)
one - two player area..
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint4.jpg)
I could not resist to peel the sticker a little and see the results :D
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint5.jpg)
I let them do the bezel and the corresponding marquee in one go to prevent color differences..
sorry for the flash.. :oops:
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint6.jpg)
The colors look so much better than the first two prints, and this is even in the side of the adhesive, so you can "see" the glue
wich will be nonvisible after applying to the Plexi
(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/galaxian/print/newprint7.jpg)
I am happy i made the desicion to try it one more time with a different printer.
the guy told me the machine they used to print this was brand new and installed last week.
also he told me it was not silkscreened, but plotted wich give a better result than normal printing according to him.
The advice for applying he gave me was to wet the surface and sticker with a nozzle spray with water, just like you apply window foil
then drop the sticker on it and remove the air / water bubbles with a windowwasher :
(http://oo-ijzerwaren.nl/contents/media/raamwisser%20unger.jpg) (http://www.dekockglasfolie.nl/media/Raamfolie/aanbrengen_window_film.jpg)
After that the water will be pushed out and the little remaining will vaporate and then its tight he says..
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Wow, this one looks better than the original! ;D
Can't wait to see it with my own eyes! ;D
Many thanks again doing this great job and the 3 runs of printing for me and for the Namco Galaxian owners! ;)
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Any news on installing this Bela ?
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Any news on installing this Bela ?
Rather don't ask. >:(
I contacted 4 different companys in the past 2 weeks, but none of them undertook the job.
They really pissed me off, they advertise themselves on the web like "we take all kind of graphic and mounting jobs", but all of them were runaway from this simple task.
Maybe they are afraid of cutting holes into the plexi or something, noob jerks! :twisted:
I keep on looking, don't dare to make it myself. :D
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Uhm, what needs to be done, plexi/holes/putting on the decal ?
I love this thread.....this well may be the start for us Europeans to be less dependent on US artwork....
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And at last mounted to a plexi;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjSQ5oNfgI/AAAAAAAADQc/08DnbB8uvAg/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20002.jpg)
It fits perfect
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjSlOTrjfI/AAAAAAAADQ0/aW_86QHkcYE/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20004.jpg)
Etienne made a 100% accurate job with the buttons also, they fit to the cp like the original ones
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjSl-b1guI/AAAAAAAADQ8/hmoy3BXT5Qk/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20011.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjSlzZFyyI/AAAAAAAADRA/8dOLg3sskds/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20012.jpg)
And finally in it's well deserved place
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjSlerbVkI/AAAAAAAADQ4/fYllJLfNblA/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20013.jpg)
Unfortunately the plexi have some wear around the player 2 button, but there is a way I can make them disappear. ;)
I also installed the marquee
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcjS3wjgIHI/AAAAAAAADRU/qJRrhzDXe1g/s800/Galaxian%20repro%20015.jpg)
With the fluorescent light, the blue color looks like a bit light to me, what do you think?
I also realized, there is metal lock bar in the bottom of the cpo, which is missing from my cab.
Now I have to clean this beauty, and install the new t-molding.
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OMG that plexi looks NOS!
Did you ask a pro to apply it or did you manage to do it yourself?
Marquee looks indeed a bit light but it's hard to judge from a picture with a backlit.
Overall a great team work again!
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The bezel looks great! I have seen the other version but this one is even better.
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OMG that plexi looks NOS!
Did you ask a pro to apply it or did you manage to do it yourself?
I had to ask pro, because I didn't want to ruin Eteinne's great job. ;D
I did the hole drilling myself, thatswhy it looks so ugly. :D
I will have some polishing work on it.
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Oops....posted in wrong thread...
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Whoohooo ! It looks super to me !
Im glad it worked out like we expected..
did you cut the buttons out before drilling like we discussed ?
(i was a bit affraid that the same was going to happen like Level42's Puckman CPO (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1751.msg23551#msg23551)..)
it could be that the blue is light with a lightsource behind it
can muerto confirm that its lighter blue when lit behind ?
the color codes are the ones i got from him, but ofcourse i cannot tell the "thickness" the printer used.
but anyway it looks better than without marquee ;D
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It looks fantastic, you made a brilliant job and a that printing quality is also awesome. ;D
It can't be seen at the pics, but this one looks like a brand new original Namco Galaxian Bezel. ;)
I did what you advised and cut out the sticker under the holes, so there were no accidents.
The marquee is also very nice, I leave it like that, just remembered a little bit darker in Toralf's machine and the one in the japanese Museum.
Once again, huge thanks to the Vector King!!! ;D
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I used to 'meet' that Italian "Japanese-like" ::) cabinet, in London at the Virgin Megastore in 2007 (...and ZAVVI in 2008) 8)
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/uk2008/ga1.jpg)
(more pictures that cabinet right here (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=363.msg2323#msg2323)) ;)
Unfortunately, it wasn't the original Galaxian board in it, but a 48in1.
Anyway, it was the original artworks... just awesome and very well preserved on that particular one (see the additional pictures (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=363.msg2323#msg2323))
I had a contact in London, and I almost but that one :P ...but the cabinet finally left the place...for an unknown destination :-\
Your cabinet looks awesome now, Belike :P
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I've done a couple of prayers (which is strange for an atheist) that this has survived in some way.... !!!
It's LOVELY.
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Wow, this is great work Etiènne. And you are planning to do the side art as well? Superb. :spaceace:
Soon the world will be a Namco Galaxian repro art set file richer, and it isn't coming from the States. ;D
Looks like Zorg has them now available :spaceace:
(Not done by me)
http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/#Galaxian_Namco_Bertolino_Sideart_left (http://vectorlib.free.fr/Galaxian_Namco/#Galaxian_Namco_Bertolino_Sideart_left)
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Rules! Very inspiring! :shock:
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Not bad. ;)
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Kickplate and side art was traced by "Jeannot K" from the scans I've made.
for his firsts tries at vectorisation of arcade artwork, he have done a tremendous work.
many thanks and kudos to Jeannot !!!1
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Funny, all the "vector starters" start at namco galaxian, the bezel was my first vector also ;D ;D ;D
I only have found a scaling issue in the file, and i E-mailed you about it Zorg.
For the rest i agree, Stunning work !!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
ps, i dont see the kickplate on the galaxian page at vectorlib ?
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got the mail, I will fix the scaling issue. I haveto go to the workshop in order to have some measurement made.
kickplate is over vectorlib maybee a cache refresh problem on you side.
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Cool Eric,
I see the kickplate also now :spaceace:
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Have a look at this latest Namco archive revealed by the great ugsf-series website. :arrow:
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum3/galaxian-namco-artwork.jpg)
I don't understand the Japanese text & google translator doesn't really help this time, but it seems to been the original artwork and all the color references for the cabinet artworks!?
If so, a real piece of museum :-* :-* :-* ... who want it framed and displayed in his game room? ::) ;)
Here's the original source, if maybe a Japanese friend can translate? ::) :arrow: http://ugsf-series.com/blog/?p=328
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Damn that's nice !!!
I never really noticed before, but it looks like there are two pilots in the eyes of the alien ship (helmets).....bit weird. Also the wires going to the wings remind me of a WWI era plane also a bit weird. Love it though, everything is allowed in video game fantasy :)
I wouldn't want it framed on my wall (at least not that original !) but if I would have it I'd see if I could make repro's, or at least scan it for the future !!!
Looks to me like that site just collects the artwork and nothing else...? That would be a real shame...
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the intersting thing is that we have datas on the colors to use. see the DIC (???) and pantone references ;-)
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hehe, if you remove it, i would like to have both versions..... dunno if i´m going to use the one with the autograph on, as mine is not Italian made....
Digging up an old thread with some good reason....I totally forgot, you got a Japanese Galaxian too Michael ?? Or just the bezel ?
[EDIT] Never mind, you answered my (same) question earlier in the thread. Still interested in your bezel...does it have a dual button for left-right or joystick (one hole) ?
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Even so....
Etienne I think I am going to be very happy that you already did all this great work on the bezel :) The good thing is that now you didn't do all that work for just one copy ;)
Of course, the Japanese version is a bit different. These things are:
- Instead of two button holes, one "oval" sized joystick hole
- P1 and P2 buttons, I don't know yet how these are installed and if what hole they require.
- The "Berolini" note will have to be removed of course
- there is a copyright notice "1979 Namco" on the very right lower edge
Of course all of this you will see soon ;D ;D ;D
It's also great to have an original around for color matching ;)
That is.....if you are willing to help me with this of course ;D ;D ;D :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Having the plexi made is a no brainer. I can go to the same company that did the great work on the Star Wars cockpit plexi's. They do all kind of plexi work like drilling etc.
One question, does the artwork glue from the back or do you have to put it on the front. If possible I'd really like from the back, at least it like that on the original...
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ofcourse i will help ;)
the backmounting is not a problem, its just is a bit more expensive because they have to laminate the backing with white.
i think i still have the invoice from bela's job so that should give a indication of the costs.
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:spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Question for bela though; how did you cutout the monitor part ?
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Question for bela though; how did you cutout the monitor part ?
I choose the lazy way, gave it to the plexi maker company, they cut out and installed it also, I didn't want to destroy your brilliant work with my noob hands. ;D
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That's the biggest problem about the bezel for sure....
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i can also ask the plotterguys to cut it out like i wanted with the alustickers, but i think applying after a cutout is even more difficult..
although, if you use the wet method, it is adjustable ;)
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Wrong thread! :oops: ;D