Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: ThatArtGuy on December 30, 2009, 07:14:47 AM
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Well, I guess I should catch everyone up on the project. I am now starting a new thread, since I do not want to disrespect Scr33n's awesome scratch build thread.
Two weeks ago, I realized that this mega-present wasn't going to make it for Christmas. It's going to be a New Year's President's Day present now. To remind everyone, this project is for a Track & Field replica cab. However, I am reducing the size to 4 feet tall (70% of full size).
I did my research and cobbled together the measurements. (Thanks everyone.) I whipped up the side of the cabinet and printed out the pattern.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/01.jpg)
After I cut it out.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/02.jpg)
And the difference between realizing the difference between full sheet print and cutting edges off print.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/03.jpg)
Here I have the right side of the cab measured for cross pieces. (You can notice the left side in the back.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/04.jpg)
Here is the shot for figuring out where the monitor and control panel will be going.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/05.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/06.jpg)
Starting to block out the edges here.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/07.jpg)
I'm not sure if I can share the plans for this cab since we have had to do a *lot* of improvising. This is due to the fact that I am putting a 19 inch monitor into the machine. Considering that the inside of the cab is only 16 and 7/8's wide, the monitor looks (and is) huge, proportionally speaking.
My father-in-law, who is helping with this project, came up with the idea to fabricate the control panel in plastic. It was a great idea. Here are the pics:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/08.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/09.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/10.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/11.jpg)
It's going to look great with custom artwork.
Well, I hope to have more pics soon since I keep forgetting to take my camera out to the workshop the last couple times. I'll try harder to remember and keep everyone updated.
TAG
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Another Scratch builder ! yeahhhh!
going to follow this with interst !
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New update for today. We were installing the brackets last time, but I forgot the camera. Here's
a couple shots to catch up.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7062.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7065.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7071.jpg)
Here we're loosely assembling the cabinet to make sure everything is square.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7075.jpg)
Brackets for the monitor.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7081.jpg)
Here it is a little bit more solid.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7078.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7082.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7088.jpg)
Checking the fit of the monitor. (This is the reason for a lot of improvising. Proportionally, the
monitor is laughably huge.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7089.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7090.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7091.jpg)
Disassembling the cabinet, prepping for primer.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7093.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7096.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7097.jpg)
That's it for today. We hope to prepare a lot more of the pieces next time.
TAG
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Yeah..a spiritual son of Scr33n ;)
I love the idea of mini-cab replica :-* Great project to follow! :)
Thanks for sharing this with us :-*
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looks great
I would loooove to have my own dedicated T&F someday :)
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me 2 ::)
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Me three. Worst part is that I had one, but had to sell it before we moved across international borders again. Since this one is for my daughter (pink and 4 feet tall), I'll have a full size for myself again someday.
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Not much to report today. Mainly cleaning up the shop to get rid of the sawdust. Don't want all that stuff flying around when painting.
Wiring the speakers.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7106.jpg)
Cutting the holes and testing size.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7107.jpg)
Laying out everything for priming.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7114.jpg)
Added a lip for laying the monitor glass on the speaker mount.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7115.jpg)
Of course after setting all of this up, we remembered that we need to cut out the air vents, cabinet lock, and the grooves on the back door. We ran out of time for today, so we'll have to do the cutting next time, vacuum up the sawdust again, and then do the first layer of priming on everything. When we do this I'll have to use wood filler to fix some of the areas where the saw got a little too aggressive. We also realized that we'll have to rewire the speakers again to get the wire behind the mounting plate, but that's a minor issue.
TAG
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Using wood filler on the inside of the bottom rear board. The saw wanted a little more to eat that day.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7135.jpg)
All primed and ready to go.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7138.jpg)
And the pink overload begins.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7150.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7161.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7157.jpg)
TAG
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Oh, here's a mock up I made before I started the project:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/ColorTest.jpg)
My daughter wanted pink. What else am I to do? :lol:
The question I have is: What color/theme should I go with for the sideart, marquee, and control panel? I was thinking either a garden (dark green grass, flowers etc.) theme or a candy (more pinks, reds, yellows, etc.) theme? If anyone has any suggestions or better ideas I'm open to them.
Also, I'm starving for real estate on the control panel. I can "comfortably" place six buttons per player. However, my daughter is four. Should I just drill 3-4 per player or go all out with six?
TAG
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A circus theme might work. The problem is that I don't want her to "outgrow" the artwork when she gets older.
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Painted the back panels, door, and top black today. Should be able to put on the T-molding and assemble tomorrow.
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T-molding goes on today. Waiting until the weekend for the paint to harden some more. It's too soft to assemble anything. I already have enough touching up to do without making more problems.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7164.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7172.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7169.jpg)
TAG
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This isn't too cluttered is it?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/Stencil.jpg)
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Assembling the mess.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7173.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7175.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7180.jpg)
Putting in the speakers.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7184.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7188.jpg)
Tapping in the markers for the control panel layout. (Image is mirrored due to cutting from the bottom side.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7191.jpg)
TAG
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Yeeeeees! Good work so far :)
:spaceace:
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Go go go TAG :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Thanks guys, we're getting there. I think the closer to the end we get the slower it goes.
Installed the kickplate and monitor.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7201.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7202.jpg)
Finally figured out what kind of bit we needed to drill the plastic without melting it. It's a Forstner bit. It's used for drilling soft wood. Works great for the control panel. The only unfortunate part is that we got one size smaller than we should have, so the buttons don't fit (barely). The solution is to thread the holes and screw in the buttons (fun, fun, fun).
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7203.jpg)
The control panel.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7212.jpg)
The back cab door. Cab lock installed.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7217.jpg)
TAG
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Looks like you are almost there 8)
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Good job !!!
Do you think to install a real coin door?
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I'd love to have a real coin door, but I literally have no room for one. The inside of the cab is only 17 inches deep (roughly). I'm going to have to turn the computer (the front panel facing the floor) just to get it to fit. I ordered an Unreal Coin Door from groovygamegear.com to put on the front, along with glowing coin buttons. I got the sticker last week, and it's large. Great for a full size, so it's going to look huge on this thing. Here's someone else's example of the sticker and buttons:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/DSC_2498s.jpg)
It's one of the few times where I think a sticker is the better option. I think I'll have a half inch on each side of the sticker on my mini-cab. We'll see if it's a good idea to cut the sides down or not. I'm thinking it would be better not to do it. I just want to get this thing assembled so I can do the electronics and artwork at home instead of driving 15 minutes every Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours to work on it. (Yes, it will have full artwork.)
TAG
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We bit the bullet and got the next size up. (Puns are fun.) Redrilled all the holes so the buttons fit. Now I find the holes for the joystick base are slightly off. Great. We'll find another workaround. Oh, the rest of the buttons are in the mail.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7237.jpg)
Measured with the coin box sticker and did a test install of the coin buttons. Right one needs to move counter-clockwise I think, but that's an easy fix. Hopefully my measures aren't off like the joystick bases (which I did by tracing the actual base).
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7245.jpg)
Close up of the buttons. They should look great lit up.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7247.jpg)
Installed the 2x2 for holding the control panel.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7248.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7249.jpg)
Control Panel installed with the piano hinge. I wanted to tuck it under, but the hinge didn't want to work that way. It's nice and shiny, so I can live with it.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7253.jpg)
Installing a keyboard drawer due to wife's wishes.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7256.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7258.jpg)
Backside. You can tell how this wood likes to get chewed up on the newly drilled holes.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7259.jpg)
A little bit closer anyway. I'm sure I'll have to repaint the entire cabinet again after all our mangling. *sigh*
TAG
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It's a super special Wednesday edition!
Checking the size of the keyboard drawer's front plate.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7261.jpg)
Drawer is complete. Now it needs paint.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7264.jpg)
Set the cabinet on the floor. It looks infinitely smaller now. LOL
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7265.jpg)
The cabinet from my perspective.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7271.jpg)
Before we place the top on the cabinet, we have to install the marquee light. I got the Nova Matrix LED light from groovygamegear.com since it's small and super bright. You can find it here: http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=83&products_id=307
Do I get something for the advertising I'm doing?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7272.jpg)
Hot glueing it in place so it doesn't touch any conductive parts.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7276.jpg)
The light is installed. Now we just need to wire it up.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7278.jpg)
The only things we have left to do at the shop is wiring the marquee light, putting on the final pieces, and repainting areas that need them. After that, I can bring it home and do the electronics there. (That is much easier for me than this woodworking part.)
TAG
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im sure your daughter will be happy :D
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It's pink... I'm sure she'll be happy. LOL
Wired the LED light and repaired the speaker wire (AGAIN!!!). (You can see it broken in the pic in the previous post.) We stapled the wires down this time so they won't break off again. Put on the top and back pieces. Everything is assembled. We just need to touch up the painting and off to home it will go.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7279.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7280.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7281.jpg)
The unpainted boards on the side of the cab are the only pieces we have left from single sheet of wood we purchased. I guess you can say we were fairly economical. Just to reiterate how much room we have inside this machine, we couldn't close the cab door due to the barrel lock hitting the LCD monitor inside. I was disappointed by this, since I wanted an authentic lock, but I can't do anything but adapt to the problem. You can see our plastic door lock on the back.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7283.jpg)
TAG
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Before I fire up Illustrator for side art design, I need two measurements. I need the height of the sideart, and would like the width of the bottom edge. Here is a picture.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/SideartMeasures.jpg)
Your help would be appreciated.
TAG
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@TAG: fabulous work on that mini-replica, i'm sure you're going to make some very happy :)! do you have that track & field sideart as a vector file on your computer? i've been looking all over for it and the one guy i found (from phoenixarcade.com) doesn't want to share it because he's not giving away stuff from which he sells reproductions >:(. so IF you have that file, any chance of sharing?
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Thanks for the kind words!
As for artwork, I do not have vector files for any of the artwork, unfortunately (marquee, side art, or control panel). I also don't have access to any NOS or repro artwork to do it. Additionally, T&F would be hard to vector since the artwork was made from watercolored line art. I can't blame Darin for not wanting to share. His repro's are awesome and that's how he puts food on his table. Darin did help me with some of the measurements for when I was blocking out the cabinet, though. So I had to thank him profusely for that.
What I am doing however is making sideart based on the original artwork. It will be in a totally different color scheme since it has to match pink, red, and yellow. (Yeah, I'm banging my head on that one.) It will also be non-T&F specific since it will be a multi-cab. I could share that file since it will be my creation. Here's the start of it:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/IllustratorStart.jpg)
Oh, and since my daughter has dual citizenship I will be using stars and maple leafs in the original star pattern. :D
TAG
PS - Major thanks go to scr33n since I couldn't find a decent shot of the side art anywhere but his located here.
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Before I fire up Illustrator for side art design, I need two measurements. I need the height of the sideart, and would like the width of the bottom edge. Here is a picture.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/SideartMeasures.jpg)
Your help would be appreciated.
TAG
No probs Tag .... here the measurements (sorry metric system :P):
height: 87 cm
width of the bottom edge: 65cm
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Cool. Thanks! Oh, and metric is okay with me. Easier to do math with.
TAG
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@TAG: fabulous work on that mini-replica, i'm sure you're going to make some very happy :)! do you have that track & field sideart as a vector file on your computer? i've been looking all over for it and the one guy i found (from phoenixarcade.com) doesn't want to share it because he's not giving away stuff from which he sells reproductions >:(. so IF you have that file, any chance of sharing?
when i look at this (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=651.0) stunning cleanup job, i think its a good idea "someone" provide Ully a copy of AI ;D (and maybe a videotraining (http://www.binsearch.info/?q=adobe+illustrator&max=250&adv_age=365&server=) AI)
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thx :) i'd LOVE :-* to learn AI to be able to do more graphics stuff on my own, but this is so time consuming that i have no idea how to get going. if work didn't always come between my free time ... ;) ;) ;)
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Yeah, that's a nice job! Unfortunately, the T&F artwork is more complex. The stripes, grid, stars, and fonts would be easy. The athletes and blue gradient... not so much.
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thx :) i'd LOVE :-* to learn AI to be able to do more graphics stuff on my own, but this is so time consuming that i have no idea how to get going. if work didn't always come between my free time ... ;) ;) ;)
or we can ask the wery reliable dexter...... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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or we can ask the wery reliable dexter...... ;D ;D ;D ;D
yeah ;)! that guy was strange. seemed to be very nice at first, but made a lot of promises he wasn't able to keep - and told too many lies. RIP dexter :twisted:
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Special surprises this episode...
We taped and painted of the countersunken screws for the crossbar. (We wanted added strength for the control panel.) But the wood filler still shows through. We had to prime it all over again.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7286.jpg)
Everything else only needed one coat to spruce it up.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7292.jpg)
Populated the control panel to make sure everything fit. I have to say it did, barely. On top, it doesn't look so bad. The bottom is going to be a nightmare to wire.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7298.jpg)
SURPRISE!!! WE BROUGHT IT HOME! I couldn't handle the drive out there anymore and decided I would finish everything else at home, so here we are. The cab fit in the back of a Volkswagen Jetta.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7300.jpg)
Up in the spare room. (You can start seeing it's size here. This is also a storage/study room mainly.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7305.jpg)
Applied the Unreal Coin Door sticker. Basically, to line it up we took the pinholes I made to measure the drill holes and used a compass to mark 1 and 1/8ths inch circles on the back. We lined the circles up to the holes, and taped it down to the machine. I peeled the top third of the backing and cut it off, pushing the sticker back down. After that, I took off all the tape and the rest of the backing and stuck the rest of the sticker on. Pretty easy to do that way.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7307.jpg)
Hey! My measurements were correct! The fit just right!
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7312.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7313.jpg)
The mess from behind. (I'm still trying to figure out how everything is going to fit.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7315.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7316.jpg)
Testing the control panel.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7317.jpg)
Plugging it in for the first time.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7324.jpg)
Look how bright this thing is, and it's midday.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7326.jpg)
Test of what I call the "naked" cabinet (no artwork whatsoever).
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7327.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7329.jpg)
Props go to groovygamegear.com for making products that seemed to be custom made for this machine.
TAG
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The mess from behind. (I'm still trying to figure out how everything is going to fit.)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7315.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7316.jpg)
take everythink out of the case ;)
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Yeah, I was thinking that too. I got the case since the power supply inside it was the same with or without the case.
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Well, she seems happy.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7377.jpg)
Still needs artwork. (I'm working on it.) Oh, and monitor glass and holding bracket.
TAG
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Well, she seems happy.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7377.jpg)
Still needs artwork. (I'm working on it.) Oh, and monitor glass and holding bracket.
TAG
Excellent job - it´s pic like this that makes worth the effort! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Well, she seems happy.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/IMG_7377.jpg)
Congratulation. This picture shows you that the 'objective' is achieved :-*
Thanks you you sharing this nice story with us :-*
Now, she'll start to discover our 'classics' games :)
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Now for the fun part(s)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/ThatArtGuy/Kendras%20Kab/Montage.jpg)
TAG