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Title: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on November 13, 2014, 09:03:52 AM
Hi,

Recently I got my first two Atari machines, an Asteroids and a Centipede! :)
And now I am busy restoring them.

Asteroids to do list:
- Install leg levers
- Install proper leaf switches instead of microswitches
- Install light fixture and make wooden board to support it.
- Repair busted and missing corners
- Repaint front panel
- Repaint coin door and marquee brackets (black)
- Find coin door bezels and $0.25 button parts.
- Fix hum in speaker
- Replace t-molding
- Maybe replace caps on PSU and audio board.

Centipede to do list:
- Rebuild trackball
- Repair wood damage, replace front panel, bottom of cabinet and bottom half of both sidepanels with new wood.
- Install leg levers
- Remove old side art and replace it with new side art
- Test pcb and monitor since game was not working (red led did glow on pcb while power on, so PSU should be good).
- Install light fixture
- Repaint coin door and marquee brackets and speaker grill (black)
- Replace t-molding
- Maybe replace caps on PSU and audio board.
- Install new CPO and Atari cone buttons

Concerning the Asteroids, amongt other things, the corners of the side panel on the bottom front are totally busted (The Centipede is a bit worse, I know  ;))
I am using bondo to fix it up, but what is the original corner radius of both cabs?

When I google for pics, Centipede has a 90 degrees square corner most of the time, Asteroids is a little rounded most of the time.
Can anybody confirm please?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/15570952640_2e14fae235_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pHXcJG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pHXcJG) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/15569915419_7f0ef56264_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pHRTpz)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pHRTpz) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5610/15570423137_41f4dcc7c5_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pHUukk)Centipede and Asteroids restoration (https://flic.kr/p/pHUukk) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15570424917_549427bf9d_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pHUuS2)Centipede and Asteroids restoration (https://flic.kr/p/pHUuS2) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15135615054_657f31cd48_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p4tZ3f)Centipede and Asteroids restoration (https://flic.kr/p/p4tZ3f) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7539/15753897181_6b06c3baac_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q17QLV)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/q17QLV) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15135616414_715d72dd66_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p4tZrG)Centipede and Asteroids restoration (https://flic.kr/p/p4tZrG) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/15570158188_55f28963ad_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pHT8zf)Centipede and Asteroids restoration (https://flic.kr/p/pHT8zf) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3955/15732037586_550bca3cf1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pYbNFm)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pYbNFm) by barrybuise (https://www.flickr.com/people/35165513@N04/), on Flickr

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Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 13, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Damn ! some serious work ahead of you, but cool to read  ;)

Goodluck !  :spaceace:
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: anunaki on November 13, 2014, 12:33:38 PM
very nice Barry!!
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: retrocab on November 14, 2014, 12:29:40 PM
very nice keep the pics coming

the centipede has had a rough life :-\

good luck

gr robert
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: level42 on November 14, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

In the US, most guys would throw these from rooftops after parting them out.....

The _good_ think about the condition of the Centi is that you don't have to doubt between replacing the artwork or not....you simply have no choice :)
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: gyruss on November 14, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
In the US, most guys would throw these from rooftops after parting them out.....

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: Superully on November 14, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
woho, this is going to be a tough one - good luck!!!
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: lesoleil70 on November 14, 2014, 07:53:09 PM
In the US, most guys would throw these from rooftops after parting them out.....

 ;D ;D

sad and true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PlGhKuE1Rc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PlGhKuE1Rc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiWIDvgAhY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejiWIDvgAhY)
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on November 14, 2014, 09:28:46 PM
Thanks for the replies guys! :)

About the original side art, I would have loved to keep it.
But the wood damage reached pretty far underneath the side art. I had to cut off 20 cm to get rid of it all.
For some time, I hoped to be able to keep the original art and re-paint the white surrounding the graphic by carefully masking it.

So, today I cut off the bottom of the Centipede with my circular saw and cut the new bottom pieces.
Only sad thing, since 19mm wide wood material is hard to come by over here, I decided to use the back door for it.
So I also have to build a new back door out of 18mm MDF, which shops DO sell.

Next step, glue and reinforce the new pieces to the bottom of the cabinet.

And I am going to cut off the broken piece (next to where the cp would be) on which I already applied some bondo.
Trace the contour of the cabinet's other side, cut it out and glue/staple it on the broken side.
Will be cleaner and faster than multiple layers of bondo.

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Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: ckong on November 14, 2014, 09:47:56 PM
Hardcore!   :spaceace:

This is true arcade lifestyle. Keep it up.  I guess that you now have no other choice than making a US-style cab out of it,  artwork wise.  Are you going to replace the marquee and bezel also?
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on November 15, 2014, 09:50:20 AM
Well, I do like the US version of the marquee better, with the dark blue.
Then again, I like the Irish side art with pink outline more than the US one with yellow outline I think.
But not a bad idea to get myself a US marquee and bezel to be honest. New sideart is already arrived.
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 15, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
Very smart to use the backdoor barry !

Love those ways of thinking  :spaceace:
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on November 15, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
Well I'd rather pick up a new sheet of 19mm particle board if I could, but all shops only carry 8, 12, 15, 18 and 22mm.
Found some wholesale retailers online that did have 19mm, but then I'd have to buy a sheet of 4 meters wide for about €100 orso.
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: Laszo on November 17, 2014, 07:48:21 AM
 :o  :o  :o hardcore indeed...... Make sure you kill the bugs (houtworm) in the wood! You don't wanna have these in your house!
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on November 17, 2014, 08:44:30 AM
I think the woodworms are already long gone.
But to be sure and to make everything neat, I'll replace the complete bottom except back panel with power switch.
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on December 05, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
Here's an update guys :)

Over the past few weeks I have replaced all the bad wooden parts.
The Centipede now has new sidepanel bottoms, new cabinet bottom, new back door, new front panel, new wooden piece next to the control panel area and a new power-switch panel on the back.

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Up next, sanding and bondo!
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: Superully on December 05, 2014, 01:06:46 PM
fabulous - great woodworking skills!!!
Title: Re: Asteroids and Centipede restoration
Post by: joeks on December 05, 2014, 03:01:50 PM
Thanks Ully! :)