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Title: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 14, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
Have a Cook Race aka Hamburger (Burger Time clone) pcb with 3 missing chips, 2N, 5N, 6N.
I would really like to see this pcb running, but I don't know which chips should be there.
If anybody have the same pcb, please help me to identify. ;)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ohEvuvkQFL0/UlwkAa7YmiI/AAAAAAAAH00/d613_lPhROo/w974-h647-no/cook+race.JPG)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: anunaki on October 14, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
I have this, I think. I'll check it after dinner
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 14, 2013, 07:30:07 PM
Quote from: anunaki on October 14, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
I have this, I think. I'll check it after dinner
Great, thanks. ;)
Please also check that the chip in L4 is "factory missing". :D
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: level42 on October 14, 2013, 09:06:26 PM
Robin should have a Hamburger PCB too, I gave a couple of PCBs to him as a "thank you" for fixing my Q*bert PCB :)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: anunaki on October 14, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
This is on mine
2N = MB74LS00 8221 M99
5N= MB74LS245 8228 M60
6N= MB74LS245 8228 M60
L4 = missing

I didn't test mine yet, must make an adapter so I can play it on my nearly finished vertical cab
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 14, 2013, 11:16:14 PM
Quote from: anunaki on October 14, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
This is on mine
2N = MB74LS00 8221 M99
5N= MB74LS245 8228 M60
6N= MB74LS245 8228 M60
L4 = missing

I didn't test mine yet, must make an adapter so I can play it on my nearly finished vertical cab
Thank you my Friend. ;)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: level42 on October 14, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone who needs to get a 74LS00 from a board is a lousy technician ;);)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 15, 2013, 08:08:12 AM
Quote from: Level42 on October 14, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone who needs to get a 74LS00 from a board is a lousy technician ;);)
Don't forget, that I live in Hungary, anything can happen here. :D
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 15, 2013, 03:09:33 PM
Sorry for bothering you with this again Patrick, I found another missing ic, it is on the lower board position H9. :oops:
Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Muerto on October 15, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Level42 on October 14, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Anyone who needs to get a 74LS00 from a board is a lousy technician ;);)

Exactly what do you mean by this?
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 15, 2013, 05:13:20 PM
I guess its an inside joke hence the smilies

dont worry, i dont get it either  :)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: level42 on October 15, 2013, 06:49:58 PM
Well the 74LS00 is the first (00) element of the 74 series of chips (it contains 4 NAND ports) and should be in "every" technicians standard stock.... ;D


Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: anunaki on October 15, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
No problem Bela ;)

M74LS273P 820600
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 15, 2013, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: anunaki on October 15, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
No problem Bela ;)

M74LS273P 820600
Thanks, you helped me a lot. :spaceace:
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: anunaki on October 15, 2013, 09:04:19 PM
My pleasure to help you :spaceace:

I played this in MAME yesterday to check it out, is an exact clone of Burgertime 8)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 21, 2013, 09:15:57 PM
When I received this board and saw the missing chips, I threw it to the box as marked "for parts", but my seventh sense told me, that I have to give it a last chance. :D
I had some time to install the chips in sockets and make a jamma adapter yesterday.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CoDWlmKuY0w/UmV3G_hozbI/AAAAAAAAH10/XSw_X2zb5ew/w974-h647-no/cook+race+002.jpg)
Fired it up
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c8iz2qylCaM/UmV3IFUrpbI/AAAAAAAAH2E/umIBoihYjQc/w431-h647-no/cook+race+006.jpg)

Yeah, image is ok. ;D
Tried to put some credits in it, but nothing happened. :-\
Followed the traces and checked everything again, same result.
I double checked the pinout chart and realized, that there is no P1 start pin indicated in it and there is a pin called "unknown".
Soldered the credit wire to "unknown" and P1 start to Cion 1 and gave it another try.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0HR_w4vc69M/UmV3Hzti-kI/AAAAAAAAH2A/SIxoIo7jGto/w431-h647-no/cook+race+007.jpg)
Everything works fine including sound and controls. ;D
Seems like the pinout chart is incorrect in all arcade websites, if anybody wants to make an adapter, this is the correct one:
      PARTS   SOLDER   
gnd        B1     A1      gnd
1p right   B2   A2      2p right
1p left     B3   A3      2p left
1p up       B4   A4      2p up
1p down   B5   A5      2p down
1p fire     B6     A6      2p fire
-            B7    A7      -
P1 start   B8    A8      P2 start
-            B9  A9      -
coin1        B10 A10      coin2
speaker + B11 A11      speaker -
-             B12    A12      -
minus 5v   B13   A13      minus 5v
plus 12v   B14   A14      plus 12v
plus 5v    B15    A15      plus 5v   
plus 5v    B16    A16      plus 5v   
gnd        B17     A17      gnd   
gnd        B18     A18      gnd   

Thanks for everybody who helped me to bring back life this great game. :spaceace:
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: anunaki on October 21, 2013, 09:27:49 PM
I want to make an adpater for this, but didn;t have time yet

great it worked out  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 21, 2013, 09:42:28 PM
You are getting better by the minute Bela !

Great job and Great game !  :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Belike on October 22, 2013, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on October 21, 2013, 09:42:28 PM
You are getting better by the minute Bela !

Great job and Great game !  :spaceace: :spaceace:
Learned most of my skills from this board. ;)
Title: Re: Cook race/Hamburger missing chips
Post by: Purity on December 13, 2014, 09:06:47 PM
Thanks for posting the info on the pinout for this PCB, as it helps me with a PCB I need to look at

Does anything need to be connected to the second edge connector on the lower board?