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Title: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 01, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
...not only is it a tedious job, it's also almost impossible to get a perfect result with all the edges, corners and nicks on coindoors.......I think I'm going to give this a try.....

http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/


http://www.garagenight.tv/diy-soda-blasting-build-your-own-rig-cheap/


Already got a compressor so this looks cheap,easy and safe.....

Lets find the parts....
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Superully on July 01, 2013, 07:44:58 PM
never had to sand a coin door, i'm glad that "my" power-coater does the job for me!!! 8)
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 01, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
The powder coater I've been to for the Galaxian parts is way too expensive. Shame I don't live closer to yours.....

I think I found a friend from a friend who does spray-painting but to be honest, with the expensive Rustoleum spray cans I get a perfect result. It's the sanding that I look up to.

I hope my compressor will be strong enough...they advise a 25 gallon, I think mine is just about 8 or so.... but with the price of the parts (already got the nozzle) it's worth a shot...
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Q*ris on July 01, 2013, 11:49:14 PM
Mmmmh, interesting!
I might give it a try too sometimes, thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 02, 2013, 08:40:58 AM
indeed interesting.

i hope its powerfull enough to blast through old paint.

we want a video !  ;D
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 02, 2013, 09:44:26 AM
It's a true McGyver solution :)

Biggest issue is if my compressor will be powerful enough.

They indicate the method should work for paint too...

Baking soda I'll have to buy at a toko or chemist's, I bet the toko is cheaper....
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Luigi on July 02, 2013, 10:01:42 AM
Amazing idea....I'm excited to see the result :)
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 02, 2013, 10:03:46 AM
what about just salt ? its very fine grid

i think if you buy salt in bulk it will not be expensive
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 02, 2013, 11:45:20 AM
I guess because salt is corrosive it's not a good idea to use that.

The advantage of baking soda is that it is easy to dissolve in water.

They say it won't do deep rust but it does work for removing paint (see video in first post)
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Laszo on July 05, 2013, 12:14:55 AM
What about crushed walnut shells? I use that in my tumbler.
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 05, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
Too Big ?
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Laszo on July 05, 2013, 12:46:43 AM
Too Big ?

I got two sizes and they are specialy made for blasting. I don't have a compressor so I can not try it.

Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 05, 2013, 09:21:02 AM
birdcage sand maybe ?  i remember from our bird it has a fine grain

(http://www.dierenwinkelharstduiven.nl/files/images/32.jpg)

7 euro's for 25 Kg, and it smells good they say  ;D

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Een mengeling van wit zand met oesterschelpjes en zeeschelpjes, en met anijs voor een frisse geur.

http://www.dierenwinkelharstduiven.nl/nl/product/ostrea-schelpenzand-25-kg/#tab-1
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 05, 2013, 10:05:29 AM
As far as I understand they try to avoid using any sand. When using sand, you'll need a blasting cabinet if you want to stay healthy.
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Laszo on July 05, 2013, 08:47:13 PM
As far as I understand they try to avoid using any sand. When using sand, you'll need a blasting cabinet if you want to stay healthy.

A blasting cabinet is a must have for sure...... What's the price for blasting a coin door..... 10 Euro?
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 06, 2013, 12:06:40 AM
Don't you guys read the stuff that I linked to ? You don't need a blasting cabinet when using the soda blasting solution....just eye and a good respirator. There is no way on earth that I can "house" a blasting cabinet..

The reason why you don't need a cabinet is because you don't recycle the sand and the soda dissolves in water so there's no problem if it's "all over the place". Of course it's not a good idea to do it in your home or game room :)
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on July 06, 2013, 08:34:00 AM
yes i read it, but just got carried away with ideas  ;)

right, so you got the compressor, take a hose, and shoot that video coindoor  ;D
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Laszo on July 06, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Don't you guys read the stuff that I linked to ?

The reason why you don't need a cabinet is because you don't recycle the sand and the soda dissolves in water so there's no problem if it's "all over the place". Of course it's not a good idea to do it in your home or game room :)

I hear you brother don't worry...........

" what happened to the planet Daddy" ...... "My son, a Dutch arcade collector from centuries pasted convinced the community that soda blasting was the way to go"  :D :D



Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: kroustibat on July 30, 2013, 01:24:35 PM
so anyone tried this solution ? to see if i need to invest in a compressor ;)

the tutorial used a 5HP compressor, but they seems really expensive. wondering the result with a 3 or 4hp one..
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on July 30, 2013, 02:53:34 PM
I bought a tube but not yet the soda.....
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on September 02, 2013, 05:17:19 PM
Finally got 2 packs of backing soda, all the better because they sell the 0,5 LB (454 Gr.) only here (on the pictures they use a 1 LB package).

This stuff is only available at what we call "toko's and warung's" here, mostly Indonesian/Surinam shops for food. I called the one I remembered from my youth and they said, sure we got it. Drove up there today and they had like packets of 50 gr. each....sigh.....and not the Arm & Hammer brand either.

So I googled some others and the next one I found and called I was more lucky, he had the stuff that I described. Cost €1,95 per pack.

They're cheaper here, but the shipping costs kill the fun until I know if it actually works:

http://www.baking-soda.nl
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: level42 on September 02, 2013, 08:07:09 PM
Well........tried it and it kinda worked.....but I think my compressor is not powerful enough.
And the soda comes in "chunks" it's not flowing evenly.

I have no more time to experiment though, need to wrap some cabs......

Now, TOTALLY incidently I have to go to a metal company for my work tomorrow......I just MIGHT put some coindoors in the back of my car and ask a nice question there  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I'm sick of sanding coin doors....
Post by: Zorg on September 11, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
in order to derust why don't you use electrolysis method.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Electrolytic-Rust-Removal-aka-Magic/

I use chemical (NaOH) to remove paint, then electrolysis to remove rust