Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: level42 on February 20, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
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....for the coming years no more machines for me, but of course everyone has his grail.....
(See picture)
This picture was taken from the february 1983 edition of Atari's Coin Connection => http://arcarc.xmission.com/Newsletters/Atari%20Coin%20Connection/Coin_Conn_V7-N02.pdf
The picture is from the London 1983 ATE show and hence the Irish cabinets there....
Of course we all know the flyer of Atari's Popeye cab but this is the first time I actually see real cabs in "the wild" (as far as you can call a show the wild....)
Browsing through all these Coin Connections (regretfully not all issues are there) you get a pretty nice insight about Atari's arcade division from 1976 to 1983. Something I noticed was that pictures, quotes and names of Atari's "suits" are EVERYWHERE and NOWHERE you will find one name of the people who created the games......
Anyway, this is a joy to browse through:
http://arcarc.xmission.com/Newsletters/Atari%20Coin%20Connection/
Even though I use the Arcade Archive very often I only discovered these scans today :)
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Thanks for the link. Very interesting stuff. God bless tools like DownThemAll ;)
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I have a friend here in Sweden who ownes a Irish Popeye cab.
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I have a friend here in Sweden who ownes a Irish Popeye cab.
Wow! Any chance he would post a picture of it??!!
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SOLD!
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How much was it you said? ;-)
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Seriously: VERY interested in pics and IF he considers selling or maybe trading it let me know please!
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Ok. Dimmu--Borgirs friend proudly present the only, what we know of, Irish Atari/Nintendo Popeye cabinet in the world.
1. The cab is not for sale and will never be.
2. This is the only picture I'm allowed to post.
3. I will soon break the highscore on this one.. ;D
Enjoy!
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz118/dimmu--borgirkattkatt/IMG-20131022-WA0007_zps2b0ffb2c.jpg)
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I have a few Coin Connection and I just checked but all of them are already available via arcarc.xmission.
Thanks for the link, Dre, it's awesome to have most of them available in PDF!
Atari Popeye… yum!
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2. This is the only picture I'm allowed to post.
Huh? :)
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O fuck......it is real !!!! Ane it looks to be in awesome condition !
I'd trade my Midway Galaxian for it..........hell I'd trade my Lunar Lander for it !
AWESOME that at least one survived !!!!!
At least give us some hope we can see it for real one time.......
Why not more pics ?
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Wait a minute......I smell something fishy here.....,
That side art is completely too small.....
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=3186&image=1
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Mmmm, maybe they just downsized the side art for the production machines....
Everything else looks vey genuine.....the flyer shows black buttons and this one has yellow but that could be another production change......
We need inside pics ! ;D ;D ;D
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Huh?
To be honest? I don't know. I guess he's not very interested shouting out to the world. It was several months it surfaced. 100% autentic for the doubters though. We'll have to respect his wishes.
I'll do my best for future references regarding this outstanding grail.
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Of course we have to respect his opinion, I am glad to see confirmed there is at least one survivor! !!!!!
Just bring this beauty to Eurocade/RGE 2014 and we will leave him in peace forever :D :D
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Wow, that must truly be one of a kind :spaceace:
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I've just received a Atari popeye manual
Which I was surprised to see
Must be very rare ?
(http://i.imgur.com/W0uL5BF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HNPrQD2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2Wi8m7q.jpg)
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oh wow... great!
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It is.
The picture of the only known game to exist has gone from this thread....luckily I saved it :)
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I didnt save it, please repost it.. :)
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The pics of the cab are not here anymore guys
Who owns this cab now then ?
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Tadaaaaaa :)
I'll give a kidney for that machine ;D ;D
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I didn't even know they existed until I got this manual, I've never seen one .
I guess they never made many
I really like the cab
Very cool with the side art
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most of the times I understand why people like things, but this time I don't
It's the Nintendo game in a far less nice cabinet
It must be the rareness and the fact it's done by Atari
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I would still have my US cab over this one any day , but I do like this Atari one as I like the shape of those cabs anyway,and it has all the art which is cool .
But you can't beat Nintendo for sure
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It must be the rareness and the fact it's done by Atari
Bingo ! You know I love Atari. And I've always found it fascinating when Nintendo and Atari's paths crossed. That's why I love to see the big "by Nintendo" on the DK and DKjr Atari 800 cartridges.....and on the game screen.
And I love the story how it was almost Atari who would have marketed the NES with the Atari brand on it all around the world except for Japan.....would we still have the Atari name today if that deal went through....? Imagine the Atari Wii ;)
And then I discovered the flyer for this machine.....so cool to see Nintendo licensing Atari just for the European market only...it's just.....very special.
Just love to see both logo's on that side-art :)
And personally, I don't like the Nintendo cab shape that much at all....it's a weird shape and it's uncomfortable for European players. The Atari machines are designed for taller people I guess....but I'm not so sure about this "midi" version.
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Its the same Cab Atari used for the licensed Time-Pilot by Konami.
not very big. I used to play it sitting on a barstool.
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Its the same Cab Atari used for the licensed Time-Pilot by Konami.
Yes, same cabinet. Here's mine :
(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/timepilot/clside11.jpg)
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Keep it far from me Bruno......if I'd get my hands on one of those I might be tempted to convert it to a Popeye ;)
Just kidding......would be pretty hard without scans of the artwork.
I also wonder if there is a regular Nintendo board-set in the machine and how it's powered ("Atari style" or different).
Inside pics is what we need, scans is what we need.... :)
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Keep it far from me Bruno......if I'd get my hands on one of those I might be tempted to convert it to a Popeye ;)
Just kidding......would be pretty hard without scans of the artwork.
I also wonder if there is a regular Nintendo board-set in the machine and how it's powered ("Atari style" or different).
Inside pics is what we need, scans is what we need.... :)
i do own the very same time pilot... but if i get the chance to get another one... i might convert it to an Atari Popeye... that would be fun. :)
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O and Chuckie.....do the entire classic arcade videogame collecting community a big favor and scan that manual and upload it to Arcade Archive please :):):)
I want to see a Popeye folder under that Atari/Kee games sub folder ;);););)
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Maybe it was asked before but is this the same Popeye like the game in the Nintendo cabinets?
I have more than one grail but this is definitely one of my most beloved ones:
http://www.eldoradogames.com/Graphics/Arcades/nw_l.jpg
But to get one of them will be almost impossible.... :(
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It surely looks like it in the pics in this thread
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O and Chuckie.....do the entire classic arcade videogame collecting community a big favor and scan that manual and upload it to Arcade Archive please :):):)
I want to see a Popeye folder under that Atari/Kee games sub folder ;);););)
For sure ill get it uploaded
I was going to offer it to who ever owns one
But they haven't stepped forward
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most of the times I understand why people like things, but this time I don't
It's the Nintendo game in a far less nice cabinet
It must be the rareness and the fact it's done by Atari
;D ;D ;D ;D
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O and Chuckie.....do the entire classic arcade videogame collecting community a big favor and scan that manual and upload it to Arcade Archive please :):):)
I want to see a Popeye folder under that Atari/Kee games sub folder ;);););)
For sure ill get it uploaded
I was going to offer it to who ever owns one
But they haven't stepped forward
Awesome I'd love to receive the scans. It will at least show the power supply set up etc.
Syno, yes of course it is the same game, it's a license :)
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I never even knew that this exists....did the other titles like DK also come in that very cabinet?
Level42, I sent you a PM regarding something totally different :)
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No only Popeye.
I know Syno, but I'm kinda busy right now (Eurocade/Retro Game Experience...)...and you can find a lot of that info you're asking for in my Namco Galaxian thread already :)
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No only Poppeye.
I know Syno, but I'm kinda busy right now (Eurocade/Retro Game Experience...)...and you can find a lot of that info you're asking for in my Namco Galaxian thread already :)
Seems like I did´nt see that thread until now....do you have a link please :oops:
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https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=4454.0
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:shock:
I haven't posted nearly enough on this forum (too busy in the UK arcade forums, sorry) but WOW I have to reply to this!
My favorite arcade memory was playing this particular game at a seaside resort called Great Yarmouth in the UK in the 80's, I was blown away by the graphics, sound and the bouncy screen. I remember it was near the entrance and Jungle King was behind it - my first time seeing these two cabs. Those cabs and particularly Popeye made such a big impression on me, so much so I tried over the next couple of Months to recreate Popeye on my ZX Spectrum computer. I got some of the graphics done from memory but soon found it an impossible feat and it joined the rest of the half-hearted games I tried to recreate :lol:
I am familiar with the Nintendo version of course and knew the one I played looked different but I couldn't remember how. I loved the look of it though. This was back in the early 80's when most cabinets were dedicated, another reason why these times are golden to me - too quickly the majority of games were conversions in random cabinets, although I still enjoyed many of those. I knew the Popeye I played wasn't in a generic cabinet though. I Literally starting searching the game up again recently and saw the UK version was an Atari license, which lead me to this thread...
I am so happy to have finally found out what is also my grail cab looks like, and that one exists. Thanks very much for posting the information and now the picture.
I feel a bit sad that this version of the game is so uber rare I will never likely see it in the flesh, yet alone own it, but at least it exists, my mind wasn't playing tricks on me and it's an ATARI Popeye for goodness sake. YES!!! Ah the memories... 8)
@Level42 - so we have a Grail in common... I can see you are a man of good taste.
AAAHuuUUH GUhGuhGuhGuh :D
Cheers.
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Love stories like that, these kind of stories make you have a "bond" to a certain game :)
Thanks and you too sir ;)
I just had a good look at this:
(http://i.imgur.com/HNPrQD2.jpg)
and this already makes it very clear that Atari used their known power set-up: the usual "power-brick" with the big blue and an AR-II print.
The game PCB, although drawn a little bit longer, does seem to represent the regular Nintendo double board-set.
Since they used an AR-II board, and since Nintendo PCBs don't have voltage "sense" lines I bet either the harness was hacked to give a direct feed-back from the edge connector or Atari actually did the first AR-II modding themselves ;)
Another interesting thing is that the other picture with the monitor says Wells Garnder or Elektrohome monitor, soooooooooo, how did they cope with the inverted video from the Nintendo board ? Separate inverter ? Or did they do the smart thing and use XOR-ed PROMS ?
Questions questions......only one person in the work can answer those at the moment it seems, but he prefers to stay out of the spotlight it seems.....
Although....this manual could provide more info on that too if it has schematics of at least the wire harness :)
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Its licensed, it could be they made a board..
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You mean a PCB ? I don't think so. Too small run for designing a dedicated Atari PCB (set).
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Presumably the manual will have at least some basic circuit information?
Where did you get that from Alex? Awesome find!
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I got it at the RGP party Saturday night from a friend of alpha 1s
I don't think he looked inside
He gave me a space firebird and a few original flyers too.
I am happy to pass this on to anyone that has this game for free
In the mean time I will try and get this scanned
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Brilliant, thanks !
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That's awesome Alex what great gifts, but the arcade probably wouldn't of existed if you hadn't built it ;D
I might even let you borrow my Atari Popeye for a while if I owned one. (no really, that would be very generous)
Level42, I don't suppose your friend would consider the artwork being scanned?
It would be incredible if if could be reproduced, but I can understand why they might not want to do this,
but it would be a good idea if this particularly rare artwork was preserved for historical purposes.
Now, has anyone got any suitable old Atari Euro shells that they want to get rid of so I can try to recreate the cab of my dreams? ;)
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please school me: why doesn't the owner of the cab want to share any pics?
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please school me: why doesn't the owner of the cab want to share any pics?
who ownes one? did i miss something?
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https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=4308.msg73080#msg73080
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https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=4308.msg73080#msg73080
thank you, mate. if i would own the cab.. i would call a pro-photographer to shoot some damn fine pictures. :D
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Hi my name is Roger and i am the proud owner to the irish build Popeye. I know this is a rare piece :) I can tell you the story how i get on hold of it. I had collecting games for a while when i ask my friend "exhibitor" if he didn´t know of any Popeye sitting in storage, a couple of month later when i called him, he told me that he hade found a man that was sitting on a Popeye stored in a shed. We made a deal and i thought i bought a Nintendo Popeye :) I imagined it beside my DKJR and red DK :) I was suprised (little disappointed) the day i went to pick it up in september 2013. But after i searched the internet i realized this was an odd piece.I can tell you what´s inside, wells-gardner G07, orginal Nintendo Popeye pcb and as you already figured out an Atari ARII board/ Atari powersupply.In my collection i also have Millipede, Food Fight (same Irish cabinet) I have 40+ dedicated games. I´m not interested to scan the artwork as some of you wanted, i don´t want replicas to popup everyware ;). But i´m interested if someone has more information of this game, how many Atari Tippary factory produced. I seen a list of games produced at the factory but no information regarding Popeye. Where did they go ? I can´t imagine this is the last irish Popeye who has survived.
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Hi there,
Welcome to the forum.
Please post pictures of your gameroom - it sounds pretty cool with the Food Fight also. I also have an Irish Food Fight. In fact currently I have every Atari Ireland game they ever made apart from Popeye :spaceace:
Two converted ones turned up in the UK - in fact Great Yarmouth many years ago. Infact there was also a converted Food Fight with them. They were playing JAMMA games still in the arcade on Great Yarmouth beach.
It's a very cool game, I am glad one is found. I don't suppose you want to phone your friend and ask him to find another one for me do you? ;-)
In regards to scanning the artwork - I think this is a great idea to do - even if you only scan it for yourself, it would be sad if something bad happened to the game and the artwork was lost forever.
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In regards to scanning the artwork - I think this is a great idea to do - even if you only scan it for yourself, it would be sad if something bad happened to the game and the artwork was lost forever.
besides that... the machine would stay original. repros stay repros and it would not hurt the value of the machine.
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In regards to scanning the artwork - I think this is a great idea to do - even if you only scan it for yourself, it would be sad if something bad happened to the game and the artwork was lost forever.
besides that... the machine would stay original. repros stay repros and it would not hurt the value of the machine.
There is that too, repros do not hurt the value of the machine. In fact in some cases it just makes the original more desirable.
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There is that too, repros do not hurt the value of the machine. In fact in some cases it just makes the original more desirable.
yupp. i did not even know that there was a popeye like that before i joined dlf.
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Great that you found your way here, welcome !
What a story ! Love when things like that happen. I'm officially jealous ;)
(And Mr.Alpha1, get in line behind me please, I have ZERO of those cabs ;);).....by the way....you need to line them up for a picture !!!! )
I agree about the artwork scanning. Sharing doubles the fun in this hobby and indeed a repro will _NEVER_ be the same as the original.
But indeed even if you really don't want to share do indeed please scan it for yourself ......you never know what might happen to the machine and being able to fall back on those filles would be great for you.....and for arcade history.
Because IMHO that is what makes this machine so special....a Nintendo game in an Atari cabinet....it's just awesome in every way :)
:spaceace:
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Thanks for the welcome :) Will try to make a presentation in some other part of this forum regarding my other classic machines. And i´m going to serch the forum after your Irish Food Fight Alpha1 ;) My biggest question is how many did they made ( Irish Popeye) Will try to found that out first :) Looks like nobody on this forum or any other arcade related forum in the World have an answer for that.
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I would imagine 100-200, unfortunately only the US produced cabinet numbers are known at the moment.
I have a pic of my Irish Food Fight somewhere, will share.
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Wasn't there a guy in the UK who got all (or a lot) of the documents from the Atari UK factory ?
I'd love to know it ALL !!!!
I did find an interview with the former manager of the plant somewhere and this single picture:
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Welcome to the forum
Would love to see some pictures please
And my offer still stands
The owners manual is free if you want to pay postage
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Did you scan it ?
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Did you scan it ?
No I haven't
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I just talked to my friend who sold me Popeye and he think it was imported to Sweden by Bally Scandinavia. I will investigate further into it and he will help me. More questions thats popup in my head :) I wonder if they just built some prototypes. Was there a dispute with Nintendo before it came to production or no market in Europe. Maybe the exhibition in London 1982 didn´t go so well. Maybe i can mail Atari headquarter and demand them to let me know :) Why did other games like millipede, Food Fight, Time Pilot and many other irish built game survived to present day.
Chuckie egg: Sounds interested, thanks.
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If Bally Scandinavia imported it it would have come from Atari Ireland.
People remember playing this version so I just think it has a very low production run of maybe 100-200 units. Other Irish games are rare including Food Fight - only 3 or 4 are known. Others like Gravitar or Black Widow only one is currently known to exist.
The silver foil sticker will confirm it was made in Tipperary Ireland.
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Did you scan it ?
No I haven't
would be awesome if you could before sending it to vr6an....
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Wasn't there a guy in the UK who got all (or a lot) of the documents from the Atari UK factory ?
I'd love to know it ALL !!!!
I did find an interview with the former manager of the plant somewhere and this single picture:
That was a UK guy called XYman. He emptied the entire Atari Ireland factory when they closed. He got CAT boxes, prototype machines, documents upon documents, manuals, master rom files, EVERYTHING.
Andy Welburn managed to photocopy a few of the documents before all of it was taken away. I have no idea where it all is now. I heard the guy moved to the US but he's never made it available.
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Why do people sit on that stuff....I just dont understand....
:(
Al Alcorn says some true things about stuff like this....
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-02-11-everybody-thinks-theyre-a-historian-alcorn
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Did you scan it ?
No I haven't
would be awesome if you could before sending it to vr6an....
What's the procedure?
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I dont think there's an "official" procedure but in rare cases I found a manual that wasnt in the Arcade Archive yet I scanned it and mailed it to them, recently the Intervideo VP monitor manual.
http://arcarc.xmission.com
I get so many info from them that others have shared before that its nice to be able to do something in return, as little as it may seem to be, you never know who you will help and.....it will be saved for the future :)
If you don't want to share it like that I would love a copy of the scan and I can promiss you it won't leave my computer.
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Hi vr6an, thanks for the info about the Popeye it really would be great to see some more pictures of it especially with your other games.
It's amazing that these cabs got all the way to Scandinavia, and even better that you have a nice collection of Irish built ones!
Even if the artwork was available I doubt many people would reproduce it unless the cabinet was built from scratch.
I've studied the artwork and think its possible to reassemble it from the upright & cocktail images available, but it wouldn't be exact of course,
but I might have a go as I quite enjoy working with Photoshop, purely out of interest rather than trying to recreate the machine.
I also have a Millipede which was is a bad way, painted back and considered whether it would be possible to turn it into a Popeye,
but after I uncovered the Millipede side art I couldn't bring myself to change it from what it originally was.
If you do find any more details it would be great to hear about them.
Enjoy the game :)
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I will find a bladdy Atari Popeye one day, last Irish grail to find :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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I dont think there's an "official" procedure but in rare cases I found a manual that wasnt in the Arcade Archive yet I scanned it and mailed it to them, recently the Intervideo VP monitor manual.
http://arcarc.xmission.com
I get so many info from them that others have shared before that its nice to be able to do something in return, as little as it may seem to be, you never know who you will help and.....it will be saved for the future :)
If you don't want to share it like that I would love a copy of the scan and I can promiss you it won't leave my computer.
Ok thanks
I will try and do that next week
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i have parts of this machine in the attic wooow just found it , it was overpainted in black.
its the side part panels with artwork, the above panel with glass window art, the glas frontplate, and the button joystick part and the orginal game instructions from inside the cabinet.
i cant restore it myself, anyone interested in these ?
you can email me @ lutijn@gmail.com i will send pictures.
i'm from the netherlands, regards Lutijn Groeneveldt
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Email sent !!!
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So....
;D
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what, is there a big piece of this Atari Popeye cab in the Netherlands?
Go get it Andre :spaceace: :spaceace:
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picked up a hitchhiker offered him some spinach
(https://s28.postimg.org/ybqmcdpm5/IMG_0978.jpg)
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Awesome! Now you only have to find the rest :)
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get out your magic sponges André! ;D
way cool!
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I guess that its a cp for the Atari (ireland?) Popeye? I think Vr6an has that cabinet?
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Very cool! Can't believe these are so rare.