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Title: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 22, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
Hi,

I got my hands on a Commodore 1084S monitor to connect to my supergun.

It's a version with only a sub-d9 input and my supergun has a Scart output.

I googled some kind of cable "scart to sub-d9", but without success.

Does anyone know where to find this cable? Or do I need to make it myself?

Greetz, Patrick
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: McVenco on November 22, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Does this help?

Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)

  Pin 1: Ground
  Pin 2: Ground
  Pin 3: Red
  Pin 4: Green
  Pin 5: Blue
  Pin 6: Unused
  Pin 7: Composite Sync
  Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
  Pin 9: Vertical Sync

From here: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=849

I've never seen a D-Sub9 to Scart cable though, I only know of cables that connect the 1084 to a computer, and those almost never have Scart connectors as video output (mostly DIN or some kind of other Sub-D connector). I'm afraid you'll have to make the cable yourself...
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 22, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
found this

(http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/uploads/1/1/7/8/11783575/4922960_orig.jpg?248)

looking good

Tx for helping McVenco :)
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 22, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
hmmmm, nevermind

it's a female connector
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: cebulba on November 22, 2012, 09:41:45 PM
Yes, thats usually the Amiga and Atari ST video output.

More technics over here:
http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bboahfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=66&id=2865&artlang=en (http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bboahfaq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=66&id=2865&artlang=en)

The 1084S is also available with Scard Output, that's why it is mostly used for surveillance cameras.

Don't know about a switch you are looking for, sorry.

otherwise you can use a cinch-adaptor to scart but that won't be the best picture?!?
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 22, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
I found a cable, it's a PHILIPS CM8833 MKII RGB MONITOR SCART ADAPTER CABLE

The CM8833 is the same monitor as the 1084 so in a few days I have my setup complete:

Supergun, 15khz RGB monitor, neo geo controller, power supply, volt display.

I'm really tempted buying a classic home computer now that I have this monitor, but it's better just to wait a little ;D I need to sleep sometimes
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: level42 on November 22, 2012, 10:22:20 PM
Got a link to that cable ?

Reason why I ask is that your Supergun will put out composite sync, and a sub-d 9 pin TTL RGB input is going to need separate H- and V-syncs.....impossible to do without any electronics....

Doesn't that monitor also have a DIN shaped analog RGB input ?
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 22, 2012, 10:35:11 PM
no it doesnt

this is the cable:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/320754731999?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3838wt_1772

Is it even possible to connect a jamma kind of board to this monitor?
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: cebulba on November 22, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
Let me know if this cable works as I have a couple of Phillips and Commodore Monitors to connect to multiple consoles - but was yet lacking monitor cables.
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: level42 on November 23, 2012, 08:45:10 AM
no it doesnt

this is the cable:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/320754731999?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3838wt_1772

Is it even possible to connect a jamma kind of board to this monitor?

Ah, I see it already: that monitor has a switch to select between analogue and TTL RGB on that sub-d input. Be SURE that your monitor has that switch too or the cable will be useless.....
Title: Re: Commodore 1084S: Scart to D9-sub
Post by: anunaki on November 23, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
thanks for checking Andre :)

I need to put it on analoque?