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Title: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 14, 2011, 11:22:38 PM
Found this on local auction site
http://antik.vatera.hu/jatek/regi_flipper_jatekgep_trafotabla_ritka_1517896901.html
(http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/5c/44/97a5_1_big.jpg)

(http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/5c/44/97a5_2_300.jpg)

Any ideas in which cab did they use it?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 14, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
euhh in an atari cab ?  :D
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 14, 2011, 11:52:10 PM
If you don't want it yourself Béla, I am _very_ interested for a certain Atari B/W vector project ;)

To answer your question, I found this excellent table in Jed Margolin's Atari internal VAX-mails:


To: Rick Moncrief
Fr: Jed Margolin
Dt: 4/26/82
Re: TI Speech Development System

<Cut away the notes about the TI Speech system since they are not relevant for this thread....>
_____________________________________________________________________________

POWER SUPPLIES - The following power supplies are currently in use,
            and are UL Recognized for use in video games.


PS ASSY       A037671-XX   A037672-XX   A037396-XX      A037875-XX

NAME      Power Supply   Shielded   Color XY      Shielded Color XY
            Power Supply

TRANSFORMER   142003-001   142003-003   142005-001      142005-002
      142003-002   142003-004

TERMIN.TRANS   A035888-01   A035888-03   A037395-01      A037395-02
      A035888-02   A035888-04

WIRING DIAGRAM   037669-01   037669-01   037394-01      037394-01

USE      B/W XY      B/W XY      Color XY      Color XY
      Color Raster   Color Raster




 PS ASSY        NAME        TRANSFORMER  TERMINATED    WIRING          USE FOR
                      TRANSFORMER   DIAGRAM


A037671-XX   Power Supply   142003-001   A035888-01   037669-01   B/W XY,Color Raster
             142003-002   A035888-01


A037672-XX   Shielded      142003-002   A035888-03   037669-01   B/W XY,Color Raster
        Power Supply  142003-004   A035888-04

A037396-XX   Color XY      142005-001   A037395-01   037394-01   Color XY

A037875-XX   Shielded      142005-002   A037395-02   037394-01   Color XY


   XX = 01 Domestic        (Voltage Block  - 120)
      = 03 International   (Voltage Blocks - 220, 240)
      = 03 European   (Voltage Blocks - 220, 240)

------------------------------------------------------------
The Following Regulator Audio Boards are Available:


REGULATOR/AUDIO II  

Assembly     Wiring     Audio   +5v @ 6A   +10v   +22v @ 1A   -22v @ 1A   +12v @ 1A   -5v @ 0.5A
           Diagram              Reg.                                        Reg.        Reg.

A035435-01   035435-01    X         X       X        

A035435-02   035435-02    X         X       X         X           X          X            X

A035435-04   035435-04    X         X       X         X           X

A035435-05   035435-05              X       X                                              

A035435-06   035435-06              X       X         X           X          X            X

____________________________________________________________________________
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 14, 2011, 11:57:12 PM
Mmmm, that doesn't work very well.....

Just hit this link: http://www.jmargolin.com/vmail/Stat82.txt

and than do a text find (Ctrl-F) using "Power supplies" and you'll find the table...

The label on the under side gives it away: It's a A035888-01, so suitable for color Raster and B/W XY games (Hey, nice ! ;))

Oh, also note that the -01 indicates that it is "Domestic", which means 120V. Not sure if you can simply change that by simply changing the jumper connector or that it really has a 120V only transformer. Doesn't matter for me much ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 12:13:59 AM
As I don't have an Atari cab, I'm not interested in it........or I have? :D
It is 20 eur with shipping to Budapest from the sellers location, should I buy it for you?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 15, 2011, 12:20:40 AM
As I don't have an Atari cab, I'm not interested in it........or I have? :D
It is 20 eur with shipping to Budapest from the sellers location, should I buy it for you?
Yes please good sir ! Köszönöm !

The puzzle pieces start coming... ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 12:23:00 AM
As I don't have an Atari cab, I'm not interested in it........or I have? :D
It is 20 eur with shipping to Budapest from the sellers location, should I buy it for you?
Yes please good sir ! Köszönöm !
Lol. ;D
Message was sent to him to lower the price a bit. ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 15, 2011, 12:29:30 AM
Thanks but don't let it jump/run for a couple of Euro's please. This is a good price for a not that easy to find part in Europe....

(I already wanted to ask if Tisztelt konyvcsomag! Üdvözletem! 4000 ft. fix árért elvinném. Köszönettel:  meant you tried a lower offer ;)

This is what Google translate made of it:
Dear book package! Greetings! 4000 ft. fixed price for the taking. Thanks.

So is Köszönettel better than Köszönöm when thanking somebody ?   ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 12:41:02 AM
[hungarian lesson mode on]
Köszönöm=Thank you
Köszönettel=With thanks
[off] :D
As I see, it was listed 10 days ago with not too much interest, but if the seller doesn't respond until tomorrow morning, I will click on the buy it now button. ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 15, 2011, 12:47:13 AM
Köszönöm Köszönettel !  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 09:10:52 AM
The evil seller just sent me 2 words:
Nem adom=I won't give you
I bought it for the original price. ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 15, 2011, 09:39:47 AM
Now, let me predict the route;

hungary - belgium - belgium -netherlands

am i close bela ?  ;D
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 15, 2011, 11:14:51 AM
Excellent Béla !! Haha, well 1000 off 5000 seems like a lot of differece but its only a couple of Euros ;)

About getting it here: there is nooooooooooo rush about it ;) But Im interested what Etienne means ? Your family in Belgium ?

It is a pretty heavy thing of course....
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 15, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
But Im interested what Etienne means ?

I'll write it in names, thats easier  ;)

Bela - Bela's brother - chris chris - André
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
But Im interested what Etienne means ?

I'll write it in names, thats easier  ;)

Bela - Bela's brother - chris chris - André
Yeah, that is the plan. ;D
I will be in Brussels in January or February, I can take it with me, I hope I won't get involved in the same situation as Muerto did in Gatwick airport. ;D
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 15, 2011, 03:33:00 PM
But Im interested what Etienne means ?

I'll write it in names, thats easier  ;)

Bela - Bela's brother - chris chris - André
Yeah, that is the plan. ;D
I will be in Brussels in January or February, I can take it with me, I hope I won't get involved in the same situation as Muerto did in Gatwick airport. ;D
Will you be flying with the power brick ?? Brave man !!! If you dont feel like doing that I totally understand and have no problem at all paying shipping my friend. Dont want you to get into delays/problems about it !
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 15, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
I guess if I show it to the security guys in advance, they won't arrest me. ;D
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 23, 2011, 08:44:11 AM
Arrived yesterday ;)
Seems like complete, except of fuses.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pr9HNIzOtLk/TvQv1Um0fDI/AAAAAAAAFC4/ThSs8h876sE/s912/atari%252520psu%252520001.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2PfIMvvlVMc/TvQv1fjEe1I/AAAAAAAAFC0/goHp1eu7hWQ/s912/atari%252520psu%252520004.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yyqdGl6mBWo/TvQv2hZKn6I/AAAAAAAAFDI/N_-ALVnBdl4/s912/atari%252520psu%252520005.jpg)

It is almost 8kg.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-npUf7OjGkeE/TvQv1JgtunI/AAAAAAAAFCw/DxNZYEKUxAQ/s912/atari%252520psu%252520006.jpg)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 23, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
Measurements please   ;)

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/ataripsu.jpg)

Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 09:57:48 AM
Thank you Béla !!! This is the first time I actually see that Atari logo label still on the transformer !! Not sure if all the power-bricks were supplied with it though....but being an Atari-junky this is extra cool :)

And so would a repro-sticker be  Etienne ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do note that there are various transformer types used (see my posting nr. 2 https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3207.msg43470#msg43470) so for the completely anal types ( ;D) you'll need to change the transformer number according to that table depending on which power supply it is ;)



Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 23, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
No probs, it is your Xmas gift from me! ;)
Lol, I was waiting for Etienne's measurement request. :D
Height:3,8 cm
Width:5 cm
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 11:21:08 AM
WAAAAAHHH a real donation for the Lunar Lander project. That makes you 5% owner of the to-be cab !  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And of course.....a life-time free-play bonus  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks very much my friend !!! :) :)

By the way, that's a nice scale !!! Are you still sure you want to take that on the plane with you considering the weight/size/looking like a bomb ??
Really it is no problem at all if you prefer to ship it to me through post, I'll of course cover the costs !

(On the other hand, the customs guys face is probably pretty priceless when they check it out.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)

I've been playing the iPad Lunar Lander a lot lately and I must say it rocks on that already.... the touch screen is at least somewhat resembling the thruster but not really of course.

Here's a nice video which shows the game in action PLUS the thrusters's role.
http://youtu.be/uJLmXildv2E

It's funny to see his strategy in playing....I usually let the ship come in much faster and then try to thrust like hell and steer correctly to land it :) The thing is you must be very economic with the fuel !!
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 23, 2011, 11:50:37 AM
Not a problem,
here is what i got now, (based on a very skewed image)
I see there is 2 models, and each models has revisions.

I cannot make out of the pic which revision you have, as a matter of fact, i dont see any revision printed at all  ;D

I did add a revision line, or do you prefer just the model without revision ?

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/ataripsu2.jpg)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 23, 2011, 12:09:39 PM
I do in fact have another donation to the lunar lander project, but you need to promiss me that you will restore this psu like this guy did  ;)

(http://home.comcast.net/~retro-active1/pwpimages/SW-ACPowerBlockAssembly-Finished.jpg)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
Mmmm.....although I totally appreciate that work, I am not THAT anal.... I'll give it a good cleaning for sure, will check the Big Blue (still got a replacement from BR on stock, should it be needed) and put in some fresh fuses but I guess that's about it....:)

I'm not too keen on the gold-paint on that beautifully restored one...it's a bit too much for me....
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 23, 2011, 04:17:57 PM
i'll donate my idea anyway  ;D

what about the revision question ?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
Yes ! :)

Well....I did a little research. The pics on the original ad (quickly saved them, the ad is still there) shows a pic with a label on the underside with the number A0-35888-01

Following Jed's table (see earlier posts) this was used on PS Assy (Power Supply Assembly) A037671-XX
(From that we learn that it is the unshielded version)

Following this, the Transformer used is either a 142003-001 or a 142003-002. There is no indication what the difference between -001 and -002 is.
Anyway, only one wiring diagram is indicated so the difference can't be that big....

Anyway, it's either -001 or -002 and I have no idea how to say which it is.....anyone else knows ?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
Wait a minute, that restored one has 142005-001 printed on the side of the transformer.....

Don't see any printing on the one Béla found though....maybe it's simply dirty ?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on December 23, 2011, 04:37:41 PM
thats a good investigation, but i still dont know if you want the revision on there the way i did, or just simply behind the number, so without the extra "Rev. " line in the label

whatever the number will be, i can print them if i know in which way you prefer it.

maybe bela can clean a bit and check the transformer for you ?

could it be that there is a difference in amps between the revisions ? (just a guess..)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on December 23, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
There used to be a sticker on side, but it is gone by now:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wOVasQf_qtc/TvS6kqkQw-I/AAAAAAAAFDU/8-3GfkVSjAg/s912/atari%252520psu.jpg)
The whole thing was painted to black and I can see the dust under the painting, so it was made by an idiot, he was too lazy to clean it before the job. ;D
By the way, the big blue is more than fine, it is a 26000 mf 15 V cap and I measured 26230 mf and 0,02 ohm resistance on it with my magic equipment. ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on December 23, 2011, 08:41:31 PM
Haha, long live the ESR meters ! I still have to find a bad Big Blue...

In general. the bigger the cap, the better the chance its still fine.
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on January 02, 2012, 06:45:47 PM
The psu is on it's way to Brussels by car (not by me :'(), it could be picked up at my bro's palce. ;)
Chris, can you pick it up with Etienne's Zacc bezel?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on January 03, 2012, 07:06:29 PM
Thanks Béla ! So no delaying airplanes because of close examination of an ancient Atari PSU by airport security ;);) ? Sounds like you looked forward to it... :-\

Again, I am in huge debt to you for this !
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on January 03, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
Thanks Béla ! So no delaying airplanes because of close examination of an ancient Atari PSU by airport security ;);) ? Sounds like you looked forward to it... :-\
No, it would have been fun to explain those security guards that this is not a bomb. ;D
Seriously, I'm not sure I can travel in this month to Brussels and my brother's colleague was here by car for Xmas, I couldn't miss this great opportunity. ;)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Muerto on January 03, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
No, it would have been fun to explain those security guards that this is not a bomb. ;D

I experienced that when i took a chassis + playchoice 10 cartridges through customs in Gatwick Airport....   :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on January 15, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
For reference, some more Atari Power Brick info:

http://www.elektronforge.com/transassy.htm

and some info about AR boards:

http://www.elektronforge.com/AudioRegs.htm

From this, it turns out that Lunar Lander seems to only need +5V from the AR board....so it should always "fit" :)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 16, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
Since you did not know if it was rev 001 or rev 002, and i had a little square to fill in the white sheet, i did this :

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/pics/psustick.jpg)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on January 31, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
Great ! :)


So....I'm of course in no rush with this but.....does anybody know where this little baby is right now ?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on February 01, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
Great ! :)


So....I'm of course in no rush with this but.....does anybody know where this little baby is right now ?
At my brother's place in Brussels atm..
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on February 01, 2012, 09:23:51 AM
Thats going to be a cool looking PSU, i had a little space to fill in the alusticker sheet..  ;)



Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on March 19, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
 ...
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on March 19, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
...

???
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on October 04, 2012, 05:13:12 PM
Any news on this?
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: level42 on October 04, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
No ....sorry.

After Eurocade I actually really had a pretty major dip in motivation for about everything....Not Eurocade's fault or anything else..it's just that you live/work up to the event so much, and I enjoyed it SO much that there simply was a little black hole after it ;)

Apart from that work has been really busy with new projects and in the other hobby (the drum band) we went to a concourse last saturday (where we scored a very nice 90 points) which required a lot of extra rehearsals and now we are heading for our 120 years anniversary of the club, which we will celebrate with a big concert on october 13, completely in Dutch style with a lot of Dutch music and "famous" Dutch singer Dries Roelvink (kinda like the guy you showed us on the youtube Béla ;)) for which I need to make a Keynote presentation for the beamers....and of course extra rehearsals too....

Here's the poster by the way, still plenty of tickets available ;)

(http://www.harmonieslikkerveer.nl/images/stories/foto/poster%20120jaar%20klein.jpg)

Anyway, it is safe and sound in my gameroom at the moment... I did already receive an Asteroids Deluxe harness for this project :)
Title: Re: Atari psu
Post by: Belike on October 04, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Hahahha, this guy rocks. ;D
I was asking, because some Xmas candies was hidden in the box with the psu last year, if you open it this year, don't do it before Xmas. ;D ;D ;D
Good luck with that nice event and don't forget to take your camera with you. ;)