Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => All the rest => Topic started by: level42 on July 23, 2011, 07:43:01 AM
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This arrived during my holiday:
(http://gallery.me.com/andre.huijts/100937/DSCF7238/web.jpg?ver=13113990880001)
OK guys, when was the last time you bought some hardware that came with a 5.25" floppy ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
The little PCB on the left is a Happy. For those who don't know A8 bit stuff: The Happy was a hardware upgrade developped in the mid 80's to upgrade Atari floppy drives. There was one for the 810 (AFAIR) but the most wide spread was the one for the Atari 1050 Floppy drive. It sped the drive up (even further), added true Double Density and also made it possible to copy protected stuff. There are more nice features though.
The reason for buying this is probably more likely rooted in the huge jealousy I had in the 80's while I could not even afford a regular 1050, and later when I BARELY could, I couldn't afford a Happy....well it took some years, but now I've got one :)
Will be fun installing and using...
The cartridge on the right is a MyIDE cartridge, developed by "our own" Mr.Atari http://www.mr-atari.com (aka Sijmen Schouten, who will be at Eurocade with his wife) but build and sold by www.atarimax.com.
This adds an IDE port to the Atari 8 bit machine you plug it in, allowing to connect any HD harddisc, but even better is to use these great little Transcend carts (THANK YOU ETIENNE !!!). The Atari OS supports partitions up to 16 MB (which was HUUUUUUUGE for those days as a floppy stored only 128 KB). So I can make loads of partitions, copy floppies in there and well....play a lot of games from only one cart :)
Hope to have it running at Eurocade so you can all see why the Atari was SO much better than the C64.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Glad i could donate this ;)
will be a head to head competition next to Bela's C 64 setup ;)
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Great device André.
It's great to see that retro console and PC hardware is still being developed. Just last week I ordered these two beauties:
for my C64: The Ultimate II floppy emulator - http://www.1541ultimate.net/content/
for my amiga 500: the SDCard HxC Floppy Emulator - http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html#SDCARDFloppyemulator
Soon I will able to play my C64 and Amiga games without the hassle of copying games to floppy's. Although it's still fun to make floppy game compilations ao once and a while.
And next week, when my pay check is in, I will get this: http://harmony.atariage.com/
And I also can't wait until this gets released: http://64drive.retroactive.be/index.php
I really love these kind of things.
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Yup it's great to see the oldies "talk" to today's technology :)
This is definitely the first game I'm going to try:
http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/184410-space-harrier-released/
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I miss my Atari 800XL. I had the Happy in my 1050 back in the mid 80's. Machine died on me and got thrown out a few years ago from my parents house. Wish I still had it as I could probably have fixed it. My favorite game was Blue Max.
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Blue Max is a brilliant game indeed ! I even loved the intro music. It was so cool because although the casual player may think it's a repetitive game, it really isn't, there's a real goal at the end...but it's a huge "road" to get there...I used to reach the end usually back in the day, haven't succeeded recently ;)
The Happy is installed and running....funny thing is that some old "game disks" turned out to be specially created for it. You don't note that without the Happy, but with it the games really load in Turbo :)
Turbo....man what an 80's word that is....no-one uses it anymore ;)
I got the MyIDE running too and both Transcend modules work fine. However, I still have to learn to set everything up. I downloaded a number of 16MB "file sets" (16MB is the max. partition size the A8 can handle, not bad for a machine that used to use 128k floppies) but I need an adapter to hook the Transcend modules to my Mac to put the files on them. I tried it through the A8, but apart from taking ages it didn't work right.
Anyway, the inventor of MyIDE (Mr.Atari) will be at Eurocade so we'll have THE expert around :P
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Blue Max will run from floppy disk on my C64 setup at the show. ;D
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Blue Max will run from floppy disk on my C64 setup at the show. ;D
Please tell me when you enter "LOAD BLUEMAX.PRG,8,1" then I'll go get a cup of coffee and return when I finished it to be in time for the game to have been loaded ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
We can compare 1:1 :) But I don't think there's a huge difference between the two BlueMaxs in gameplay. About this: does anyone have a low-res monitor that he can bring for those oldy computers ? I've got one, but it would be a shame to have to switch...
I want you guys to see Rescue On Fractalus and Bounty Bob Strikes Back :P
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Blue Max will run from floppy disk on my C64 setup at the show. ;D
Please tell me when you enter "LOAD BLUEMAX.PRG,8,1" then I'll go get a cup of coffee and return when I finished it to be in time for the game to have been loaded ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
We can compare 1:1 :) But I don't think there's a huge difference between the two BlueMaxs in gameplay. About this: does anyone have a low-res monitor that he can bring for those oldy computers ? I've got one, but it would be a shame to have to switch...
I want you guys to see Rescue On Fractalus and Bounty Bob Strikes Back :P
I have "giga load" and some similar "turbo" stuff, you won't get back with your coffee in 10 sec. ;D ;D ;D
I still have this retro TV, if nobody can bring something similar, I will try to squeeze it in the car. ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H4XMPAvhLQM/TJDXJ8ch08I/AAAAAAAADDs/yxHoJ3_i3Sk/s800/Videopac%252520002.jpg)
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Mmm, no real need for that TV (although I like it's "iron curtain" look ;)) you'll need the space already ;)
I've still got one or two TV's here.
About the Turbo on the 1541: not fair ;)
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Just ordered this:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280486191932&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:NL:1123
The thing is that the Transcend modules have female connectors (because you connect them to a 40 pin male IDE port).
Now, I have one of those nice IDE2USB kits (somewhat like this:
(http://upic.me/i/vv/ide2usb3.jpg)
that lets you connect any HD (IDE, SATA etc.) to a USB port. Very handy for temporary back-ups (PC field service work) etc.
However, these kits ALSO have female connections because they hook up to a (male) drive.
So....I needed a male 2 male 40 pin IDE cable. I think for 10 bucks incl. shipping to hear, it was cheaper and more comfortable to simply order one instead of building one myself...
With it, and some special software, I'll be able to fill the Transcend with loads of games.... :D
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
Extremely kind offer Etienne, but I prefer to do this on my Mac. The IDE2USG runs fine with Parallels.
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Blue Max will run from floppy disk on my C64 setup at the show. ;D
And bring the beautiful Berzerk Redux with you (http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=80567). I played it a lot on my C64 this week, it's great and very arcade authentic, at least as far as you can expect from a very old 8-bit.
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Blue Max will run from floppy disk on my C64 setup at the show. ;D
And bring the beautiful Berzerk Redux with you (http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=80567). I played it a lot on my C64 this week, it's great and very arcade authentic, at least as far as you can expect from a very old 8-bit.
Ooops, I don't have this one and I have no emulation stuff for my C64, just a few hundreds of good old floppy disks. :-\
Can you help me out with it? ;)
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Can you help me out with it? ;)
Yep, I have 'burnt' it on a good old floppy. I love the smell of those things. ;D
I dont'know if you're still playing a lot with your C64, but if so, then this is a great addition to the hobby: http://www.go4retro.com/products/zoomfloppy/
It makes copying d64 files from a modern Windows PC to a 1541 floppy drive a piece of cake, and a lot of fun. I'm making some nice game compilations at the moment.
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
Extremely kind offer Etienne, but I prefer to do this on my Mac. The IDE2USG runs fine with Parallels.
DAMN, now i am still stuck with some old PC's ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D
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That's a nice try. And I know I'll be condemned for it but the early 80s A8 version is better.
The players "man" runs too fast.
The robots act weird, they're not moving all at once and dont act like the arcade version.They never run into walls !
Also the mazes are just wrong.
Evil Otto is also WAY too fast if compared to the 2nd ROM version of the original, which is the most common one, but even compared to the first version Otto is too fast.
No c64 bashing just think it could have been done better if looked closer at the original.
Let me say I could never program like this so it's a great effort for a one man project. And I see that the current version is 1.10 and the video shows 1.8 so maybe he improved some things ?
The speech is not freezing the game like on the A8 though which is great. And I really like the intro logo and graphics.
Compare:
A8 version:
http://youtu.be/eeYhUcJcY_w
C64 version:
http://youtu.be/dZKtYDV8BkM
Arcade version:
http://youtu.be/ektxaqu_V4k
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Can you help me out with it? ;)
Yep, I have 'burnt' it on a good old floppy. I love the smell of those things. ;D
I dont'know if you're still playing a lot with your C64, but if so, then this is a great addition to the hobby: http://www.go4retro.com/products/zoomfloppy/
It makes copying d64 files from a modern Windows PC to a 1541 floppy drive a piece of cake, and a lot of fun. I'm making some nice game compilations at the moment.
Looks like a great tool, though not quite understand how it works. :oops:
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
Extremely kind offer Etienne, but I prefer to do this on my Mac. The IDE2USG runs fine with Parallels.
DAMN, now i am still stuck with some old PC's ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D
Maybe I would take one, seems like I will have to mame my Dodgem cabinet, all the original stuff (pcb, cables, monitor) is missing from it. ;)
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Can you help me out with it? ;)
Yep, I have 'burnt' it on a good old floppy. I love the smell of those things. ;D
I dont'know if you're still playing a lot with your C64, but if so, then this is a great addition to the hobby: http://www.go4retro.com/products/zoomfloppy/
It makes copying d64 files from a modern Windows PC to a 1541 floppy drive a piece of cake, and a lot of fun. I'm making some nice game compilations at the moment.
Looks like a great tool, though not quite understand how it works. :oops:
Simple: you hook up this interface to a PC. Then you connect a 1541 drive to the interface. Using some special software you can then copy (image) files to a real floppy in the 1541.
There's a similar device for the Atari 1050 but it never got very popular I guess because of SIO2PC which means you could hook up a PC that will emulate 8 floppy drives (and much more) for the A8, thus you could easily copy from an image on the PC to a real 1050 using an Atari.
Also, with solutions like SD card and IDE adapters there's not much need to go back to real floppies, unless for "sentimental" reasons :)
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
Extremely kind offer Etienne, but I prefer to do this on my Mac. The IDE2USG runs fine with Parallels.
DAMN, now i am still stuck with some old PC's ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D
Maybe I would take one, seems like I will have to mame my Dodgem cabinet, all the original stuff (pcb, cables, monitor) is missing from it. ;)
looks like i need to write something more in my "things to bring to eurocade list" ;D
ill see what i have here, prepare / test it, and dump it in the car ;)
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And thats where the good old PC comes in handy... just put it on the secondary controller port and start copying ;)
do you need an old pc to transfer the goodies to the modules ?
i have still plenty of them in my attic that i am cleaning out...
Extremely kind offer Etienne, but I prefer to do this on my Mac. The IDE2USG runs fine with Parallels.
DAMN, now i am still stuck with some old PC's ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D
Maybe I would take one, seems like I will have to mame my Dodgem cabinet, all the original stuff (pcb, cables, monitor) is missing from it. ;)
looks like i need to write something more in my "things to bring to eurocade list" ;D
ill see what i have here, prepare / test it, and dump it in the car ;)
Great thanks. ;D
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Simple: you hook up this interface to a PC. Then you connect a 1541 drive to the interface. Using some special software you can then copy (image) files to a real floppy in the 1541.
Ok, just one more noob question:
If I copy a D64 game file to a floppy disk, is that file simply playable with the C64 itself?
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Simple: you hook up this interface to a PC. Then you connect a 1541 drive to the interface. Using some special software you can then copy (image) files to a real floppy in the 1541.
Ok, just one more noob question:
If I copy a D64 game file to a floppy disk, is that file simply playable with the C64 itself?
Yep, and it's fun to make new floppy compilations too.
And another nice extra of the zoomfloppy: as you have attached your 1541 drive through Zoomfloppy to a PC, like André explained, it is also possible to use a real 1541 drive with emulators on your PC like Winvice. Not really necessary of course, but fun.
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Super cool, I will order it tomorrow. ;D
Thank you for being informed about this. ;)
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Tried to catch this one, unfortunately price went a little high :-\
http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-64-C64-BLUE-MAX-Synapse-UR-SEALED-NR-/230652947517?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D1%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1759776895460425304
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Commodore-64-C64-BLUE-MAX-Synapse-UR-SEALED-NR-/00/$(KGrHqV,!hME3vhJk!G-BOMFuo0W6Q~~0_12.JPG)
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blue max is a fond memories of my childhood:) same with "who dare wins"
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blue max is a fond memories of my childhood:) same with "who dare wins"
I also have Who Dares Wins, as I remember there were 2 or 3 parts released from this game. ;)
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What do you think about this one:
http://szamitastechnika.vatera.hu/egyeb/commodore_sd_kartya_floppy_emulator_c64_1541_1575810341.html
(http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/52/5f/ced5_1_300.jpg)
There is an english description also, looks like something similar that Erik advised, it is just 30 eur.
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What do you think about this one:
http://szamitastechnika.vatera.hu/egyeb/commodore_sd_kartya_floppy_emulator_c64_1541_1575810341.html
(http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/52/5f/ced5_1_300.jpg)
There is an english description also, looks like something similar that Erik advised, it is just 30 eur.
never heard of that one, so I couldn't tell how it functons. By the way, I don't use zoomfloppy any longer, it worked (works) great, but I now have the 1541 Ultimate II, including the floppy emulator add on. This is a true floppy drive emulator which ia amazing.
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Thanks Erik, I asked for more information and seems like it is almost the same equipment as the Ultimate II, just need the original 1541 serial cable and a 12V/300mA adapter to operate it.
I think I will give it a try. ;)