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General Chat => Dragon's Lair / Space Ace => Topic started by: johnsarcade on October 21, 2014, 07:05:21 PM

Title: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 21, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
I bought a really nice looking Space Ace disc off of ebay. I paid about $100 shipped for it from the UK.

When playing the disc in the player not plugged in the game, the disc stops at the same scene every time then resumes and there is a lot of snow on the screen.

I cleaned it with Novus and it didn't help.

Is there any hope for this disc or is it just garbage? Really bummed. :(
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 21, 2014, 07:20:07 PM
and that, together with the 3+ laserdisc players you bought over the last months, is exactly the reason many people Daphne-d the machines...

now, i don't know much about laserdiscs, i am not a laserguy, but i think that could be indeed one of the symptoms you have with laser rot

and as far as i know there is no fix for that.

Bummer indeed..
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: level42 on October 21, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Maybe it's a PAL/NTSC thing ? No idea really, I'm not a laser-guy....


Here's a picture I took in the Computer Museum in Cambridge (UK) that I visited last summer. I think that is kinda unreadable now ;)

Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: level42 on October 21, 2014, 07:29:47 PM
Oh and going off-topic, but here are some more pics from that same holiday, also in Cambridge but in an arcade there. I really don't think that is going to fit in your basement John :)

That marquee is already HUGE !
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 21, 2014, 07:36:33 PM
Oh and going off-topic, but here are some more pics from that same holiday, also in Cambridge but in an arcade there. I really don't think that is going to fit in your basement John :)

That marquee is already HUGE !

That game is amazing! I WANT THAT!!! :)
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: level42 on October 21, 2014, 07:38:37 PM
It was so funny because when I saw it I thought about you right away and of course I played it a couple of times. I actually hadn't played it on iOS before :)
Managed to get some good number of ticket out of it, but we all know how "valuable" these are :)

I thought it was fun too ! It has all the elements a good arcade game needs: simple to play, hard to master and yet when you fail you feel it's your fault and want to give it "one more try"....

About the LD: did you get it through eBay ? if it was mentioned as fully working I think you should file a claim...
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 21, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
It was so funny because when I saw it I thought about you right away and of course I played it a couple of times. I actually hadn't played it on iOS before :)
Managed to get some good number of ticket out of it, but we all know how "valuable" these are :)

I thought it was fun too ! It has all the elements a good arcade game needs: simple to play, hard to master and yet when you fail you feel it's your fault and want to give it "one more try"....

About the LD: did you get it through eBay ? if it was mentioned as fully working I think you should file a claim...

Here's the thing... I didn't personally buy this. Some guy in the UK bought it for me and shipped it to me as the seller wouldn't ship to the USA. I paid for it of course.

This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: level42 on October 21, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
I will never understand why people refuse to ship to another country.....sigh.

Sucks man...
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 21, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 22, 2014, 02:30:28 AM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+

Can you tell him he sold me a shit disc??? :D

Does this guy have a laserdisc game? If he does, I bet he knew it had laser rot but didn't mention it.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 22, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+

Can you tell him he sold me a shit disc??? :D

Does this guy have a laserdisc game? If he does, I bet he knew it had laser rot but didn't mention it.

Don't think he has any Laserdisc games.

I don't have any contact with him, nor are we friends, so I don't think he would appreciate it if I told him he sold you a duff disc :-)

I gave you this information because I thought you might be a member there and could contact him?

He's also here but not logged on since first registering:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=3973
 
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 23, 2014, 04:07:39 AM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+

Can you tell him he sold me a shit disc??? :D

Does this guy have a laserdisc game? If he does, I bet he knew it had laser rot but didn't mention it.

Don't think he has any Laserdisc games.

I don't have any contact with him, nor are we friends, so I don't think he would appreciate it if I told him he sold you a duff disc :-)

I gave you this information because I thought you might be a member there and could contact him?

He's also here but not logged on since first registering:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=3973
 

That's cool. I don't want you to get in trouble and I fully understood the risk! It's a little surprising that if he runs that arcade site he didn't at least test the disc. But again, I totally knew that I was taking a risk ordering it as it didn't say it was tested.

I sent him a PM on this site here.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: silverfox0786 on October 24, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
john did you get my link on your youtube video about the NOS space ace disk in USA

the seller is a good guy I used him many times and Is a member of KLOV and well known member
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 24, 2014, 02:15:25 AM
john did you get my link on your youtube video about the NOS space ace disk in USA

the seller is a good guy I used him many times and Is a member of KLOV and well known member

This one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/super-rare-Brand-New-NOS-laserdisc-for-1983-Cinematronics-SPACE-ACE-arcade-game-/151441297239?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23429acf57

I want it but I just can't drop the $$ on it right now. I'll wait for now. :)
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: silverfox0786 on October 24, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
yes that's the one

yeah I can understand

although if you had not brought the DUD then it wouldn't have been so bad to buy the NOS one
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Evil Otto on October 25, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+

Can you tell him he sold me a shit disc??? :D

Does this guy have a laserdisc game? If he does, I bet he knew it had laser rot but didn't mention it.

Don't think he has any Laserdisc games.

I don't have any contact with him, nor are we friends, so I don't think he would appreciate it if I told him he sold you a duff disc :-)

I gave you this information because I thought you might be a member there and could contact him?

He's also here but not logged on since first registering:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=3973
 

That's cool. I don't want you to get in trouble and I fully understood the risk! It's a little surprising that if he runs that arcade site he didn't at least test the disc. But again, I totally knew that I was taking a risk ordering it as it didn't say it was tested.

I sent him a PM on this site here.


Ive forwarded this message on to one of the moderators of Jamma+, the'll get the message over to him buddy.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 25, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
This is the auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPACE-ACE-LASER-DISC-/131258998817?

That's the site owner of Jamma+

Can you tell him he sold me a shit disc??? :D

Does this guy have a laserdisc game? If he does, I bet he knew it had laser rot but didn't mention it.

Don't think he has any Laserdisc games.

I don't have any contact with him, nor are we friends, so I don't think he would appreciate it if I told him he sold you a duff disc :-)

I gave you this information because I thought you might be a member there and could contact him?

He's also here but not logged on since first registering:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?action=profile;u=3973
 

That's cool. I don't want you to get in trouble and I fully understood the risk! It's a little surprising that if he runs that arcade site he didn't at least test the disc. But again, I totally knew that I was taking a risk ordering it as it didn't say it was tested.

I sent him a PM on this site here.


Ive forwarded this message on to one of the moderators of Jamma+, the'll get the message over to him buddy.

Awesome. Thank you! I am curious what Mr. Jamma+ has to say. If he is so involved in the hobby I can't believe he wouldn't at least try to test the disc before selling. I know that I could never sell a disc like that without testing it in a friend's machine first, even if I didn't have a laserdisc game.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 25, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
I hope you get a response John
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 26, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
I was looking at the advert before and it seems contradictory and misleading

It says "Looks to be in excellent condition. Is exactly as shown in photo"....which I read as "Untested"

But then the item condition reads "The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended"

If the item is untested, then how would you know it is fully operational, and functions as intended?
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 26, 2014, 07:49:01 PM
I was looking at the advert before and it seems contradictory and misleading

It says "Looks to be in excellent condition. Is exactly as shown in photo"....which I read as "Untested"

But then the item condition reads "The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended"

If the item is untested, then how would you know it is fully operational, and functions as intended?


Oh, interesting! The listing definitely says it is fully operational!! NOT TRUE! Someone get ahold of this guy for me. :) Maybe he has another disc. Looks like he might as he listed another for sale.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: dsyde on October 27, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 27, 2014, 01:45:48 AM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian

Awesome! You rule! :) Julian has contacted me via PM and we are getting it sorted out.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 27, 2014, 06:56:40 AM
Good news ! thats cool  :spaceace:
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Superully on October 27, 2014, 07:27:16 AM
Why send it back? It' broken ...  ???
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Tyrem on October 27, 2014, 07:50:01 AM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian

cool Julian!  :spaceace:
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 27, 2014, 10:09:17 AM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian

Blah, blah blah Julian

The only things I have said are FACT!  If you bother reading the thread properly.  No opinions at all, and certainly no relevance to whether I like you or not

The way you conduct yourself, like above, leaves a lot to be desired.

John - glad you got it sorted out
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: dsyde on October 27, 2014, 12:36:50 PM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian

Blah, blah blah Julian

The only things I have said are FACT!  If you bother reading the thread properly.  No opinions at all, and certainly no relevance to whether I like you or not

The way you conduct yourself, like above, leaves a lot to be desired.

John - glad you got it sorted out


Ben, there is nothing wrong with the way i conduct myself. Take a look at yourself.

Have a nice day
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 27, 2014, 12:53:37 PM
Ok I'm here

you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet as he doesn't like me, plain and simple.

I'm very sorry you're having trouble with the disc, send it back for a full refund. I don't rip people off. Also, I don't own and have never owned any laser games.

Julian

Blah, blah blah Julian

The only things I have said are FACT!  If you bother reading the thread properly.  No opinions at all, and certainly no relevance to whether I like you or not

The way you conduct yourself, like above, leaves a lot to be desired.

John - glad you got it sorted out


Ben, there is nothing wrong with the way i conduct myself. Take a look at yourself.

Have a nice day

There is nothing wrong with the way you conduct yourself?

Well then, please explain where in the thread your comment "you can pretty much take anything purity says and flush it down the toilet" makes any sense or is relevant?  It is simply uncalled for

If that's conducting yourself in a good manner, then you clearly do have issues.

I have taken a good look at myself, hence why I'm trying to steer away from shit like this.  There's more important things in life than dealing with people like you, who clearly want divisions, and bad feeling to continue.

If you have something to say to me, then either say it privately, rather than publicly on forums or Facebook, or better still, don't say anything at all  
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 27, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
Why send it back? It' broken ...  ???

The disc is unusable. The disc stops at the same spot every time and the snow on the screen is horrible. Massive laser rot.
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 27, 2014, 02:33:44 PM
Boys, no fighting! Everything is good. :) Thanks to all that tried to help! And, thanks Julian.  :spaceace:
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 27, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
Julian gave me a refund. Awesome dude. Thanks!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: lesoleil70 on October 27, 2014, 09:08:23 PM
 :spaceace:
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on October 27, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
Great,  :spaceace: for Julian
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: Purity on October 27, 2014, 09:32:10 PM
Nice one dude!  You going to buy the other one on eBay now?
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: silverfox0786 on October 28, 2014, 12:10:34 AM
john sent you another pm with a cheaper disk for pioneer player

seller claims no rot and shows pics of the disc running

her is the link again

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311117633243?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 29, 2014, 11:58:48 PM
john sent you another pm with a cheaper disk for pioneer player

seller claims no rot and shows pics of the disc running

her is the link again

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311117633243?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I was talking to the seller and he was willing to ship it to me then someone did a BUY IT NOW. I couldnt bid as i am in the usa. Was it one of yous???? :)
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: silverfox0786 on October 30, 2014, 02:45:53 AM
john sent you another pm with a cheaper disk for pioneer player

seller claims no rot and shows pics of the disc running

her is the link again

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311117633243?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I was talking to the seller and he was willing to ship it to me then someone did a BUY IT NOW. I couldnt bid as i am in the usa. Was it one of yous???? :)

I only just noticed it ended, and came straight here to see if it was you that brought it, although looking at the listing it wasn't a buy it now, the seller pulled the listing

message him again just in case he pulled it so you can buy it off him
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: johnsarcade on October 30, 2014, 03:12:59 PM
john sent you another pm with a cheaper disk for pioneer player

seller claims no rot and shows pics of the disc running

her is the link again

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311117633243?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I was talking to the seller and he was willing to ship it to me then someone did a BUY IT NOW. I couldnt bid as i am in the usa. Was it one of yous???? :)

I only just noticed it ended, and came straight here to see if it was you that brought it, although looking at the listing it wasn't a buy it now, the seller pulled the listing

message him again just in case he pulled it so you can buy it off him


It does say that, doesn't it? Odd. He told me that it was sold and someone bought it for his "buy it now" price. I wonder if it was sold outside eBay?
Title: Re: I bought a Space Ace Disc but it's got laser rot. :( Is it garbage?
Post by: silverfox0786 on October 30, 2014, 08:26:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it sold not only outside ebay but I can lay money on the fact that it will re appear on ebay at a higher price