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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 11:03:14 AM »
although you have good points, this is probably why not  ;D

And even that 4,95 is avoidable if you salvage one from an old PC
not to mention the Db value..
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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2012, 11:46:55 AM »
Those hardly produce the same airflow my friend, apples and pears. A fan is not just a fan.

You will have to take a look at the airflow produced by the original fan. The Papst you indicate (which is the Rolls Royce under the fans and hence so expensive) produces 160 m3/hour while that 12V one does only 61 m3/hour, that is a huge difference.

But even if the airflow would be sufficient, you have to realize that a fan is not something that gives a constant load. The resistance that it gets from the surrounding air varies, and thus the current drawn also varies. This makes the 7812 have to work hard to keep outputting a stable 12V for the electronics that uses it.

Also, just to stick to your example, the average current used by that fan is 0,35A. The 7812 can handle a maximum current of 1,5 A. So using that fan you will only have 1, 15A AVERAGE left for the electronics. If the electronics alone draw something like 1,25A the 7812 is getting into trouble keeping up the voltage at 12V, you may even fry it over the long run.

It is just not a good idea to run fans from the power source that is also used for the PCB electronics.

So your suggestion for a separate PS would be better, but these cost money too...

There are much cheaper 230VAC fans while still a good brand like Sunon.
http://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/axial-fans/5440302/

plus....you as an IT guy should be able to get some of old server racks ;);)
I scored a couple on our yearly flea-market for close to nothing.

About dB value: if the fan is too noisy you either
1) did not turn up the game sounds loud enough (like my SW cockpit)
2) did not turn the 80s music loud enough

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 01:01:16 PM »
I did not say that i was not able to get the 220 variant for free  ;)

As for the last two aguments, i totally agree with you  ;D ;D ;D

But i am sure that the cooling that the 60 m3/hour 12 volt fan delivers will be enough for this particulary PS.
especially compared to that monster of a fan that is in there now, i dont believe that that fan is producing the 160 m3 /hour capacity that you specify either.
In combi with an old (read free) adaptor in the already existing outlet it will also not compromise the 12 volt line from the PS.

I do agree that you got correct arguments though.

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2012, 08:31:55 PM »
Thanx guys for the great tutorial.
I am skiiing right now;)

But when i am back in germany i will start with the repair of the old PS!!!!

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 08:41:20 PM »
so, back from skiing.

I measured the transformer side. Everything looks alright. (after replacing some fuses).

Tommorow I startup with complete cleaning.
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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 12:09:30 AM »
I am nearly ready with cleaning and repair:



I have to build some new stickers for the transformer side;-) (photos coming when ready)



but I have trouble with the CN1 connector

anyone knows where to get a new one?





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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 08:01:30 AM »
 :o :o :o  what a difference !

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2012, 09:04:49 AM »
Looks awesome. ;)
What is the problem with that connector?

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2012, 09:23:22 AM »
yeah, i was asking myself the same question..

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 09:33:19 AM »
the two 10,5VAC cables are broken (in the connector)

I can't manage to get the cable-clips out of the connector to fix them (the connector is melded there).
So to my mind it's better to add a complete new connector.
but it's not so easy to find a similar one.
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Re: Zaccaria / Hantarex Power Supply
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2012, 01:31:44 PM »
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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2012, 02:40:04 PM »
i can trade my spare cable for yours.

Its the cable between the transformer and the PD circuitboard if i am not mistaken.



I do want yours in return, so at least i have the other connectors  ;)

Also i am going to print some vinyl etikets soon, so if you want them professionally printed on vinyl, let me know..

Postal and etiket costs are ofcourse for you.
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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2012, 04:42:13 PM »
thanks for the offer Etienne!

I will try to fix it myself, I think now that I know the parts I will get them. (I found a shop in Bremen)

Bu yinyl stickers would be great for sure. Do you need photgraphs from mine?


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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2012, 07:32:21 PM »
I dont think i need them, since i got a spare PS here  ;)

I will scan that and recreate the labels.

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Re: Zaccaria / Hanatrex Power Supply
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2012, 07:33:28 PM »
so I made a flying cable to do some measurements.

there seems to be a problem at -5V

the +5V seems ok, it's adjustable from 5V to 9.8V.

+12V was a problem I fixed it.

anyone has an idea?


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