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Title: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 12, 2011, 09:16:47 PM: I purchased some nice pcbs today (The Invaders, Quasar, Sega Turbo, Konami Gt, Cabal), but I'm not sure with these 2:
Sticker says "Safari", is it a Taito Safari pcb from 1977?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcwwpsxG_-I/AAAAAAAADW4/5l3_C_tAstg/s800/eger%20konami%20021.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcwwppVBj7I/AAAAAAAADW0/vS-yAAVW3qU/s800/eger%20konami%20022.jpg)

The other one is a Sega pcb from 1982, I have no idea what is this
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcwwqEelXkI/AAAAAAAADXA/HgiG9eggNkc/s800/eger%20konami%20023.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TcwwpzSolrI/AAAAAAAADW8/1KR7guUTH14/s800/eger%20konami%20024.jpg)

Any input would be appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Muerto on May 12, 2011, 09:57:28 PM: That TAITO looks to new to be from 1977....
But post the pics on KLOV, there's some pretty hardcore people on there when it comes to identifying PCB's!!!
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 12, 2011, 11:45:08 PM: Quote from: Muerto on May 12, 2011, 09:57:28 PM
That TAITO looks to new to be from 1977....
But post the pics on KLOV, there's some pretty hardcore people on there when it comes to identifying PCB's!!!
Great idea, pcb no.1 is already identified by crazykongfan on klov as Safari Rally. ;)
Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 13, 2011, 12:02:32 AM: And here comes the second one:
(http://retroclinic.com/leopardcats/grails/2_superloco/sloco2.jpg)

It's a Super Locomotive,if wikipedia is to be trusted, only 35 were made. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Locomotive
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: level42 on May 13, 2011, 10:35:10 AM: The game was reported to have a very limited production run with only 35 PCB boards printed. Of those, most remained in Japan, with the remainder exported to Sega Europe and all sold to UK customers. This means that the game was not natively present in either mainland Europe or the US.
This makes the game one of the most sought after boards, and prices reflect this scarcity.

HOLY SHIT, you lucky devil !!!

Sell it and buy your grail ! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 13, 2011, 11:21:12 AM: Yeah, only some @ss has soldered on the edge connector :evil:

that really needs to be taken off if you ask me,

do you have a desolder option ?
if not, bring it to eurocade, ill take it saturday with me and bring it back clean sunday (remember, no repairs at eurocade ;) )
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 13, 2011, 12:25:24 PM: Quote from: Level42 on May 13, 2011, 10:35:10 AM
The game was reported to have a very limited production run with only 35 PCB boards printed. Of those, most remained in Japan, with the remainder exported to Sega Europe and all sold to UK customers. This means that the game was not natively present in either mainland Europe or the US.
This makes the game one of the most sought after boards, and prices reflect this scarcity.

HOLY SHIT, you lucky devil !!!

Sell it and buy your grail ! ;) ;) ;)

;D ;D ;D
I'm up for a trade for a Zaccaria Tron. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 13, 2011, 12:27:11 PM: Quote from: Etienne on May 13, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
Yeah, only some @ss has soldered on the edge connector :evil:

that really needs to be taken off if you ask me,

do you have a desolder option ?
if not, bring it to eurocade, ill take it saturday with me and bring it back clean sunday (remember, no repairs at eurocade ;) )
Thanks Etienne, that's a very kind offer. ;D
I would like to clean and test it somehow, but the pinout is impossible to find. :-\
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 13, 2011, 02:12:14 PM: does sega not use a standard pinout on every board ?
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 13, 2011, 02:18:18 PM: Quote from: Etienne on May 13, 2011, 02:12:14 PM
does sega not use a standard pinout on every board ?
Afaik there were different systems, like system 16,18.24. etc..
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_arcade_system_boards
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 13, 2011, 02:24:51 PM: well , you stated your board is from 1982

must be Sega G80 then, the others where used from 1983 and up according to your source 8)
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on May 14, 2011, 06:58:22 PM: I found 2 more:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tc6zplSc4wI/AAAAAAAADZs/O1U-FBcRdd0/s576/pcb%20ebay%20022.jpg)
Meanwhile I could identify this, it is a Quizmaster from Coinmaster ;D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tc6z5m-dckI/AAAAAAAADaI/0lToL8cBgKY/s576/pcb%20ebay%20023.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 15, 2011, 01:47:02 PM: And another one from Kural, I'm not sure if it is not a fruit machine pcb
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tc-73VGMbDI/AAAAAAAADbk/qLs1HuXHR1w/s800/black%20kural%20pcb%20003.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tc-73DXsxdI/AAAAAAAADbg/AljYrwOvmow/s800/black%20kural%20pcb%20001.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/Tc-7koGXPrI/AAAAAAAADaw/umHptLYgHo0/s800/black%20kural%20pcb%20002.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 15, 2011, 03:48:01 PM: Those "Eagle" logo's look like Flacon...

(http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Arcade/PCB/big/Crazy_Kong_Part_II_-_1981_-_Falcon.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 15, 2011, 03:58:01 PM: Yeah, that was my first impression also, but this pcb has a 36 pin edge connector ???
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: PaulSwan on May 16, 2011, 03:02:06 AM: Likely some sort of video fruit or something - huge connectors needed to drive the lamps, payout and bill acceptors etc.

The Sega one might be the same as Wonderboy and other similar platforms in terms of pinout.

The Taito does look like an old two board set in the Space Invaders era

Paul.
Title: Re: Can you dentify these pcbs?
Post by: Laschek on May 16, 2011, 10:25:36 AM: Quote from: Etienne on May 13, 2011, 02:24:51 PM
well , you stated your board is from 1982

must be Sega G80 then, the others where used from 1983 and up according to your source 8)

According to www.system16.com it's not G80. It belongs to an non-standard group of Z80 based games http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=688, the "System" classification started AFAIK in 1983 with System 1. Maybe it's a predecessor to System1?

@Bela: can you make a picture of the edge connector (both sides), this might help to find out if the pinout is matching another one from that group of Z80 based games.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: ElPancho on May 16, 2011, 07:52:56 PM: SL is lucky indeed !
First one I ever saw on YAJ went for € 1300 some months back....

edit

well, I thought it sold but is still there ....

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h136305089
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: level42 on May 16, 2011, 08:54:31 PM: I think the problem with a board like that is that it is ultra-rare, but you'll have to find the one person willing to pay what it's "worth" just to have a rare board. I mean, the game can't be very good if the production "run" was 35..... right ?
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 16, 2011, 09:40:56 PM: :o :o :o
The pics from the connector:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdF8t2kcrFI/AAAAAAAADcE/IZjQClbKlbg/s800/Super%20Locomotion%20001.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdF84W4r1MI/AAAAAAAADc0/ptvMC7yvhk8/s800/Super%20Locomotion%20005.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdF8uV21OAI/AAAAAAAADcU/EvFjE587YtI/s800/Super%20Locomotion%20007.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdF8ttDaF7I/AAAAAAAADcA/-AyNfvSJyjA/s800/Super%20Locomotion%20010.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 16, 2011, 09:41:59 PM: Quote from: Level42 on May 16, 2011, 08:54:31 PM
I think the problem with a board like that is that it is ultra-rare, but you'll have to find the one person willing to pay what it's "worth" just to have a rare board. I mean, the game can't be very good if the production "run" was 35..... right ?
I hope we can try this pcb out at Eurocade and decide together if it is good or crap. ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Muerto on May 16, 2011, 09:44:45 PM: Excellent idea! - love to "taste" a 1300€ vine..... i mean PCB!!! ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: mchay on May 16, 2011, 11:42:27 PM: Sega threw some relatively rare PCBs out there. I also have a Sega Suntory Tapper board. Not to many of those either :)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Laschek on May 18, 2011, 11:13:35 AM: Quote from: Belike on May 16, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
:o :o :o
The pics from the connector:

So, I checked the available pinouts of the other Z80 boards listed on www.system16.com but couldn't find any matches. The fact that Super Locomotive has it's own Mame driver adds to the conclusion that the pinout is unique.
Did you ask the other SL owner on VAPS if he has a pinout? If not then the only way to find out is with a multimeter and some try & error. Here's how it's done: http://www.crazykong.com/tech/Identify-unknown-boards.txt
My guess is that the paired pins on the left and right edge is GND and the three connected ones on the right +5V, but I could be wrong.
If you want to sell the board real cheap then let me know ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 18, 2011, 12:39:24 PM: Quote from: Laschek on May 18, 2011, 11:13:35 AM

If not then the only way to find out is with a multimeter and some try & error. Here's how it's done: http://www.crazykong.com/tech/Identify-unknown-boards.txt

thats some interesting (and logical) reading !, thanks for that !
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 19, 2011, 11:21:11 PM: Quote from: Laschek on May 18, 2011, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: Belike on May 16, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
:o :o :o
The pics from the connector:

So, I checked the available pinouts of the other Z80 boards listed on www.system16.com but couldn't find any matches. The fact that Super Locomotive has it's own Mame driver adds to the conclusion that the pinout is unique.
Did you ask the other SL owner on VAPS if he has a pinout? If not then the only way to find out is with a multimeter and some try & error. Here's how it's done: http://www.crazykong.com/tech/Identify-unknown-boards.txt
My guess is that the paired pins on the left and right edge is GND and the three connected ones on the right +5V, but I could be wrong.
If you want to sell the board real cheap then let me know ;D
Thanks for the tips, I will try to contact the other owner first. ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 20, 2011, 12:16:46 PM: Mission accomplished! ;D
The other owner of the pcb is really nice guy from the Netherlands called Jan, he sent me the pinouts (found out by himself) in no time. ;D
He is also some kind of an arcade distributor, called Dragonfly-Amusements (http://dragonfly-amusement.com/?lang=GB&sel=home).
And the pic he sent me :D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdY9pRuSAiI/AAAAAAAADdE/bWEyQyi_2HI/s576/Super%20Locomotive%20pinouts.JPG)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Laschek on May 20, 2011, 12:44:51 PM: Cool! Now all you need is to replace the missing audio amp and make an adapter!
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 20, 2011, 12:59:21 PM: Quote from: Laschek on May 20, 2011, 12:44:51 PM
Cool! Now all you need is to replace the missing audio amp and make an adapter!
Thanks Laschek. ;D
Btw. can you tell me some more details about this audio amp thing? :oops:
I guess it is that missing black thing in the top right corner.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 20, 2011, 01:17:58 PM: what can i say... Dutch people ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Laschek on May 20, 2011, 01:55:12 PM: Quote from: Belike on May 20, 2011, 12:59:21 PM
Thanks Laschek. ;D
Btw. can you tell me some more details about this audio amp thing? :oops:
I guess it is that missing black thing in the top right corner.

That black thing is actually a heatsink. Screwed to it is the amp. Just ask that dutch which one it is (what is written on it) ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: level42 on May 20, 2011, 02:49:47 PM: Quote from: Etienne on May 20, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
what can i say... Dutch people ;D
Stop it you racist ! ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 20, 2011, 03:56:40 PM: Quote from: Level42 on May 20, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: Etienne on May 20, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
what can i say... Dutch people ;D
Stop it you racist ! ;D
LOL ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on May 20, 2011, 04:14:15 PM: I found my good old acid damaged Moonwaker/Clutch Hitter pcb, I guess it has something similar, but to be on the safe side I asked the dutch for identification numbers. ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdZ2GtkMjNI/AAAAAAAADdQ/7ga_AmluLmA/s800/Sega%20amp%20001.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_-UA8BV99Des/TdZ2HIepyJI/AAAAAAAADdU/xuoDcmp0mro/s800/Sega%20amp%20002.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on June 13, 2011, 11:33:28 PM: The sound amp and the heat sink was replaced(not by me) ;D
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uSp6bVGO0E8/TfZ9vK773-I/AAAAAAAAD0c/-0MHsM_Skbg/s800/Super%252520Locomotive%252520s%252520amp%252520001.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F7hOOc62k98/TfZ9vM2FRjI/AAAAAAAAD0g/lcJAaEZLwwY/s800/Super%252520Locomotive%252520s%252520amp%252520003.jpg)

Meanwhile I checked some videos on youtube from this game and I had a feeling, that I've already heard it's music somewhere.
It's a C64 game, who will find out which one? :D
Some clues:
The Soundtrack from the arcade game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9egyCAMZw
And the original video from Yellow Magic Orchestra (YMO) called Rydeen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2zQjRF1vE&feature=related

I also realized, that this game is similar to C64 Loco, which was one of my favourites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQQlQl2G40
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on December 28, 2011, 07:58:18 PM: Another one:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oFj5q6nkCeY/TvtkScjz5hI/AAAAAAAAFF0/O2KmqtOmGRM/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520002.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hdbMDrGAZUM/TvtkSTdF_nI/AAAAAAAAFF4/smgA6mqOWjM/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520001.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_DpG1ENOLts/TvtkR3QOTvI/AAAAAAAAFFw/3nApioDGhcA/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520007.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W3ZRSP8jv9I/TvtkTA3mg7I/AAAAAAAAFGE/eT6H_X4G5jM/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520003.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GYTDglyKqZ8/TvtkUIUrQ5I/AAAAAAAAFGM/W_1ctSDAj50/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520004.jpg)

I've got this today , there is a "Cowboy" tag on the cage of the pcb, I think it could be Indian Battle, because Wild Western looks different. It is Taito pcb with the number AA017756A, I found one match with google for a game called Ozma Wars, but it does not look like the pic on Crazykong.com.
(http://www.crazykong.com/pcbs/G%20-%20O/OzmaWarsB.pcb.jpg)

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Laschek on December 28, 2011, 09:10:36 PM: Whats written on the Roms (the silver stickers)?
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Superully on December 29, 2011, 01:30:36 AM: according to this (http://www.crazykong.com/tech/TaitoBoardList.txt) its lunar rescue, but the pcb pictures don't match!
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on December 29, 2011, 12:11:08 PM: Quote from: Laschek on December 28, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
Whats written on the Roms (the silver stickers)?
There are 2 letters "RF" and a number from 1-7.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Laschek on December 29, 2011, 12:36:54 PM: There's a Ring Fighter, but this is supposed to have RFT on those labels. But maybe the T stands for table and you have an upright version ???
Best way would be to read out the roms and RomID them.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on December 29, 2011, 07:58:54 PM: It is a table pcb, there is "cowboy table" written on the side with a marker.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: CrazyKongFan on December 29, 2011, 10:36:53 PM: If you can post a little more info about the board, like what kind of processors (8080, Z80, etc), the size of the EPROM's (2708, 2716, 2732, etc), that might help too :)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on December 30, 2011, 10:11:12 AM: The middle pcb has the number AA017757 which is matching with Lunar Rescue in Ully's chart.
Still don't know what is that RF on the roms and on the Taito sticker. ???
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U5QIAZyXpJk/Tv1-cmnX2mI/AAAAAAAAFG0/icPzCAIVOag/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520013.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GqyWFYrkDro/Tv1-cQJ-8QI/AAAAAAAAFGs/sxXu0snUqbU/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520010.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-27_q9AwMIgk/Tv1-cSXG3JI/AAAAAAAAFGw/exQ5q3887aI/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520012.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: P-man on December 30, 2011, 07:11:54 PM: Quote from: Belike on December 30, 2011, 10:11:12 AM
The middle pcb has the number AA017757 which is matching with Lunar Rescue in Ully's chart.

Your rom pcb and middle pcb (AA017757) are standard Taito Space Invaders hardware pcbs. You will find these on Space Invaders, SI part2, Lunar Rescue and tonens of other 8080 hardware games... your rom pcb at least has been modified in a few ways, and i have a feeling that the big bundle of grey wires from the top pcb go to various points on the cpu pcb.

Your top pcb is very interesting, it contains a whole other bank of 8k ram, and an 8035.. i can't think why they would hack this set so much, but i'm fairly sure this is a factory hack that taito did, or at least, one of its distributers... From the age and technology i would say it could be a Taito version of Sheriff.

I can tell you that it is NOT Taito Gunman (cowboy them).

Oh, and Taito labels from the late 70's and very early 80's that have lettering on them usually don't correspond to the english name of the game, so RF might be a red herring...

I have LOTS of taito pcbs and work on them all the time, if you want the pcb investigating properly i'd love to buy it or look at it on the bench :)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: mancinii on March 21, 2012, 06:50:36 AM: Quote from: Belike on December 30, 2011, 10:11:12 AM
The middle pcb has the number AA017757 which is matching with Lunar Rescue in Ully's chart.
Still don't know what is that RF on the roms and on the Taito sticker. ???
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U5QIAZyXpJk/Tv1-cmnX2mI/AAAAAAAAFG0/icPzCAIVOag/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520013.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GqyWFYrkDro/Tv1-cQJ-8QI/AAAAAAAAFGs/sxXu0snUqbU/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520010.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-27_q9AwMIgk/Tv1-cSXG3JI/AAAAAAAAFGw/exQ5q3887aI/s912/Taito%252520pcb%252520012.jpg)

hi, I'm looking for the Indian PCB BATTLE TAITO 1980

you figured out that this is the game in the roms?

I'm sure that the Indian has 8 Battle eproms (8 roms) 2716, because I have a layer
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on March 21, 2012, 08:17:42 AM: This pcb is at P-Man's (our member) place by now, he will investigate it soon. :D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: P-man on April 29, 2012, 01:33:47 PM: Just a follow-up post for anyone interested...

This pcb turned out to be Taito Western Gun Part II which i dumped and went into mame a few releases ago.. the pcb itself has a lot of problems, and while i've repaired about 6 already, i'm no closer to having the game boot up, looks like it was plugged in incorrectly at some point and fried a lot of stuff.

enjoy
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on October 27, 2012, 08:51:41 PM: The Super Locomotive pcb was repaired by Andy (P-Man) and works great.Thank you Man! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShNfpyTjHh8&feature=youtu.be
I love the music, it is Rydeen from Yellow magic Orchestra, the clip also rocks, check it around 2 min 45 sec. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShNfpyTjHh8&feature=youtu.be
Andy has a second one for sale for a few bucks if anybody interested. :D
http://www.andysarcade.net/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=2221
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on January 24, 2013, 04:54:42 PM: And another one, pic shows nothing, looks like a XXX in one jamma pcb, the red led lights on.Or some kinda supergun?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MIoLT3v880w/UQFYBAYimjI/AAAAAAAAHFQ/rSAwT-vQUY8/s512/WP_001366.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v4mxDGZb0zM/UQFYBHTPToI/AAAAAAAAHFY/cINWuYGMRHM/s512/WP_001367.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6CP0SiOrQLM/UQFYB2Pb8RI/AAAAAAAAHFc/6MYre0V1D7U/s512/WP_001368.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on January 24, 2013, 07:11:42 PM: try hooking it up to a tv, those cinch connectors (yellow and white) look like composite video and audio.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: ANY on January 25, 2013, 02:17:01 AM: Playstation/Xbox/GC to jamma?
cinch connectors (I call them RCA connector) should/can be audio video input
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on January 27, 2013, 08:54:00 PM: Quote from: ANY on January 25, 2013, 02:17:01 AM
Playstation/Xbox/GC to jamma?
cinch connectors (I call them RCA connector) should/can be audio video input
Thanks for the tip, it has to be one of these.
http://www.arcadomaniashop.com/epages/es115644.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es115644_ArcadomaniaShop/Products/XBox2Jamma
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on August 04, 2013, 09:29:49 AM: Yesterday's catch :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DMlvP2fssqc/Uf4CSLiK5hI/AAAAAAAAHj8/hxrInT26gxw/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+001.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Robinholland on August 04, 2013, 10:16:24 AM: Cool :P
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Digimon on August 04, 2013, 12:09:37 PM: Great catch! ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Reboot on August 04, 2013, 02:45:45 PM: Nice, also have bought around 100 pcb a few month ago, with lot's off unknown (bootlegs) pcb. Because of my diy basic supergun could only test a few of them (mine doesn't have -5V psu) so a lot didn't seem to work and which are working are worldcup '98, a lot of them. :(
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on August 04, 2013, 03:18:48 PM: For first sight, some oldies here like Centipede, Circus Charlie, Pitfall 2, etc. and about 30-40 bootlegs, will take some weeks to check them all.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on August 08, 2013, 05:25:42 PM: Started to sort the pcbs, have some bootlegs to identify :D
1.This one has 2 edge connectors
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QKoQQkeHV1Y/UgO0FeqRlCI/AAAAAAAAHkY/QrQ1EQ-G5QY/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+003.jpg)

2.Looks like jamma, but it is not
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nPur_vTQIGU/UgO0GI08hXI/AAAAAAAAHks/z7cqOOKxaAo/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+004.jpg)

3.Falcon pcb marked as KCK-02a, suspected Crazy Kong
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vv0ff44Xdpw/UgO0GT9uVLI/AAAAAAAAHkw/eVd4nRxuJGE/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+005.jpg)

4.Voet Bal?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SO-2_MC56q0/UgO0GuQ9HWI/AAAAAAAAHk8/YvRLIJkkhsA/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+007.jpg)

5.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uTAc3o8cTa8/UgO0G4edFiI/AAAAAAAAHlA/lD60OnyUPRk/w974-h647-no/janika+dobozok+008.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: muddymusic on August 08, 2013, 05:52:30 PM: 2 - Arkanoid, 5 - Galaga
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Post by: Belike on August 08, 2013, 06:10:28 PM: Quote from: muddymusic on August 08, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
2 - Arkanoid, 5 - Galaga
Thanks Olly. ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 08, 2013, 08:20:06 PM: "4. voetbal" Is that a dutch pile of PCB's ? sounds really dutch to me (in english its soccer)

the KCK is probably the same boardset that i got from muerto, so its Crazy kong "1" and not part II which is a single board AFAIK

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/crazykong.jpg)
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Post by: Robinholland on August 08, 2013, 08:35:00 PM: 1 burger time / cook race
4 Dribbling
http://www.ebay.de/itm/DRIBBLING-Arcade-PCB-Spielplatine-Platine-Board-Original-Model-Racing-60D-/151094986766?pt=Automaten&hash=item232df6880e
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on August 09, 2013, 10:05:57 AM: Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on August 08, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
"4. voetbal" Is that a dutch pile of PCB's ? sounds really dutch to me (in english its soccer)

the KCK is probably the same boardset that i got from muerto, so its Crazy kong "1" and not part II which is a single board AFAIK

Thanks Etienne, do they share the same adapter with the bigger single Falcon pcb?
Quote from: Robinholland on August 08, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
1 burger time / cook race
4 Dribbling
http://www.ebay.de/itm/DRIBBLING-Arcade-PCB-Spielplatine-Platine-Board-Original-Model-Racing-60D-/151094986766?pt=Automaten&hash=item232df6880e
Thanks Robin. ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 09, 2013, 10:49:01 AM: Quote from: Belike on August 09, 2013, 10:05:57 AM

Thanks Etienne, do they share the same adapter with the bigger single Falcon pcb?

Yes indeed, i have plugged mine at the end of EC11 and it worked.

Quote
Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on September 05, 2011, 02:50:31 PM
....

So when i got my CK out ready for transport, i was curious if it was working, so i connected it to my cab....

And another big Surprise showed up!, not only was it an original Falcon board, it was also a Real Crazy kong !
That was ofcourse what you expected, but not entirely true, when i say a real crazy kong, i mean "PART 1", all the others that i know of and have are Crazy Kong "Part II"..
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: level42 on August 09, 2013, 10:52:05 AM: Was that when all the electricity blew ? O no, that was 2012 :):):)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on November 01, 2013, 03:00:34 PM: Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on August 08, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
"4. voetbal" Is that a dutch pile of PCB's ? sounds really dutch to me (in english its soccer)

the KCK is probably the same boardset that i got from muerto, so its Crazy kong "1" and not part II which is a single board AFAIK

(http://www.opdenkelder.com/muerto/arc/crazykong.jpg)
Etienne, can you check what kind of chips there in these positions?
K2 (upper bpard)
C5 (lower board)
A5 (lower board)
Thanks in advance. ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 01, 2013, 04:20:00 PM: Sure, will try to pick it up this weekend, its at my mothers place ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: Belike on November 01, 2013, 04:23:44 PM: Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on November 01, 2013, 04:20:00 PM
Sure, will try to pick it up this weekend, its at my mothers place ;)
Cool, thanks. ;)
I'm afraid K2 chip surface is also erased from yours, but let's give it a try.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?(edited)
Post by: anunaki on November 01, 2013, 04:36:23 PM: maybe this will help you Bela

http://www.crazykong.com/manuals/CKong.sch.pdf (http://www.crazykong.com/manuals/CKong.sch.pdf)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 07, 2013, 07:10:49 PM: K2 is indeed scratched away, you can see that already in the overview pic when you look close

5A and 5C are "M5L2101AP 0770" with a Mitsubishi logo .
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Post by: Belike on November 07, 2013, 09:16:13 PM: Thanks my Friend. ;)
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Post by: PaulSwan on November 07, 2013, 09:17:45 PM: If I were to guess, I'd say the IC next to the EPROMS would be a 6116 RAM ;)
Paul.
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Post by: CrazyKongFan on November 22, 2013, 04:21:07 PM: I'm not at home now, but I'll try and remember to check when I get home. I have a couple Crazy Kong boards with that style layout, one is a Donkey King and one is plain Crazy Kong (with some oddball colors and no audio amp). I think one has the KCK lettering and Falcon logos on it. Maybe mine doesn't have the chip ID scratched out.
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Post by: CrazyKongFan on November 26, 2013, 03:54:52 AM: The 2 boards I have, both are indeed 6116 RAM's, but they're the same size as the EPROM's next to them. Yours is obviously a smaller chip. Most of my other CK boards also have a 6116 RAM next to a bank of EPROM's, at least the Falcon style boards anyway. It must be some sort of RAM though.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: PaulSwan on November 26, 2013, 04:54:01 AM: Objects closer to you look larger than those further away... ;D
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on November 26, 2013, 06:46:42 AM: They are the same size, only thing that creates a optical illusion is the socket under it, and that the pins on the eerpom's are at the edge of the chip, so yeah, it looks smaller, and it is in fact a bit more narrow because of that, but they are almost the same size

here a green square over them, and the green squares are identical ;)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on November 26, 2013, 02:26:33 PM: Thanks guys. ;)
Have some more pcbs to identify:
Some kinda bootleg
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R69A5GOSp9g/UpOIh0q5rdI/AAAAAAAAH_k/knwt5Ka6M6Y/w801-h532-no/dentify+005.jpg)

Double board with 2 different edge connectors, no manufacturer sign, eprom label signed "PP1".Does not look like a Pole Position. :D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8XEGvfPvqoI/UpOIiCTdghI/AAAAAAAAH_g/J--YVG_354w/w801-h532-no/dentify+006.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AKwJ4OvyzgU/UpOIik0H3RI/AAAAAAAAH_0/wQdnQa1bdkc/w801-h532-no/dentify+007.jpg)

And finally.....I know it is a Yie Ar Kung-Fu, but you have to see the bitumen version. ;DFully working of course. :D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LJW5xqlCZKU/UpOIjqSpu_I/AAAAAAAAIAA/5uyoftkbu44/w801-h532-no/yie+ar+kungfu+bitumen+003.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UGW5BmCNcdc/UpOIkO3R91I/AAAAAAAAIAE/ZrmJEiCTXDc/w798-h532-no/yie+ar+kungfu+bitumen+004.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Laschek on November 26, 2013, 02:54:02 PM: That's the Namco version of Pole Position.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: CrazyKongFan on November 26, 2013, 10:51:15 PM: Quote from: Etienne MacGyver on November 26, 2013, 06:46:42 AM
They are the same size, only thing that creates a optical illusion is the socket under it, and that the pins on the eerpom's are at the edge of the chip, so yeah, it looks smaller, and it is in fact a bit more narrow because of that, but they are almost the same size

here a green square over them, and the green squares are identical ;)

yeah, that's what I meant. It's not the same size chip (physically). It's got the same number of pins, but is obviously narrower.
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on November 27, 2013, 07:55:56 AM: Quote from: Laschek on November 26, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
That's the Namco version of Pole Position.
Thanks Sascha. ;)
Too bad, that my Namco PP2 cab was mamed, the complete inside was missing. :-\
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Digimon on November 27, 2013, 08:38:37 AM: If you don't Need the PP board I am interested in buying it;-)

I need it to fix my PP2 Board;-)

CU
Digimon
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Belike on December 03, 2013, 10:26:17 AM: Quote from: Digimon on November 27, 2013, 08:38:37 AM
If you don't Need the PP board I am interested in buying it;-)

I need it to fix my PP2 Board;-)

CU
Digimon
OOOps, I missed this post sorry. 8)
At the moment I have to investigate, if I can convert back my Namco PP2 cab from mame, if yes, I will need it.
By the way, I made a minimal jamma adapter and tested it. ;)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BaMm6EzqRKo/Up1--YFPnrI/AAAAAAAAICg/xPJP-KoTR5A/w801-h532-no/PP2+Namco+009.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uL5W4w_blAE/Upg7v44i1vI/AAAAAAAAICM/qSRKHO6gGr4/w355-h532-no/PP2+Namco+006.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n5OYHoW9a3Y/Upg7vBGblGI/AAAAAAAAICI/sadhmN5mC2c/w355-h532-no/PP2+Namco+004.jpg)

;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Belike on December 03, 2013, 10:31:50 AM: Have some more to identify.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vRzX1kVrxRE/UpULygF0d6I/AAAAAAAAIBU/GP9QEAgIlho/w798-h532-no/MM+computer+80+002.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qjP72yx94A4/UpULzGvvptI/AAAAAAAAIBY/sul3m8eGWIY/w798-h532-no/MM+computer+80+004.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Fgq8U4Y5rZI/UpULyrO5l_I/AAAAAAAAIBc/pvrSXPe-_DI/w798-h532-no/MM+computer+80+003.jpg)

There is a sign "*MM*Computergame*80*".
Title: Re: Can you identify these pcbs?
Post by: Laschek on December 04, 2013, 10:47:01 AM: Look a bit like a bootleg of an Atari board, like Missile Command. Would also fit the "80" and maybe those extra connectors are for the trakball(s).
Centipede could also be a possibility, maybe its a Magic Maggot ("MM") PCB, although I have seen one of those which looked more like an exact copy of the original.