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General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: ckong on May 19, 2012, 11:08:17 PM

Title: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 19, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
A looooooooong time ago,

somewhere in the beginning of this crazy hobby

I raided a warehouse, and got me some cabs: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1379.0

And finally, today I was able to inspect one of them closer, named Breakout

This is how she looks today, a bit filthy.

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000690.jpg)

But the bezel and marquee are still in damn good shape, A+ I would say

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000691.jpg)

And the internals also seem to be in a pretty good shape. Unfortunately I don´t have a key of the backdoor, but I could fetch the power cable through the coin door.

So, would she play, or wouldn´t she?

YES, she plays:

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000695.jpg)

Everything seems to be working, game (although there are a few issues), marquee light, sound, CP light and the spinner (although not very responsive). This puts a big smile on my face. Also because this was also inside:

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000687.jpg)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000688.jpg)

All in all not too bad.

First thing to focus on is the spinner. Some tips where to start?




Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on May 19, 2012, 11:50:14 PM
Damn.....that warehouse sure delivered some great working games !!!! ;)

Amazingly it is especially the very old BW games that seem to have survived the best ! :)

Breakout doesn't have a spinner but a dead simple potmeter.

Open the CP, replace pot.
That's the best idea.
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 20, 2012, 12:42:28 AM
Breakout doesn't have a spinner but a dead simple potmeter.

I knew that, really, I did.  :oops:
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 20, 2012, 07:28:25 AM
Yeah !!  its alive, ALIVE !

(http://blog.geeklife.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/its-alive.jpg)

Nice that its working !

Indeed, replace pot..
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Hi on May 20, 2012, 08:48:02 AM
you're lucky !
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Belike on May 20, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
It is in very nice shape indeed and if a simple pot really helps, it will be fully working soon. :D
Congrats!
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 20, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
This is an US built game, but it looks like it was intended for the European market from its birth

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1000689.jpg)
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on May 21, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
So no Irish factory at the time of Breakout yet....I wonder which was the first game they did in Ireland....
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 21, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
Those Alu stickers look still in good shape for the age !

Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 21, 2012, 07:14:50 PM
Those Alu stickers look still in good shape for the age !

Yep, as does the whole cab, pretty amazing. I only need to replace the laminate on the front to make it a real beauty. The game is from 1976, 36 years!! A real piece of history, as are hundreds of other games of course.
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on May 21, 2012, 07:31:14 PM
Did you find a replacement pot meter ?
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 21, 2012, 08:10:12 PM
I bet its the same as Ully's rally and your starwars yoke's pot
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on May 21, 2012, 08:43:38 PM
Yup. Big chance. They're not cheap but IMHO if there is one thing that spoils a Pong (like) game it's a jittery paddle....

You could try a "bath" with contact cleaner and "washing the contact cleaner out afterwards". Ask RobinHolland for tips :P
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 21, 2012, 11:38:51 PM
I haven´t searched yet, I have been busy planning other things.  ;D Holiday coming up.
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on May 01, 2013, 09:10:10 PM
I started to work on Breakout again, after a long break. And I need a bit of technical advice and guidance.

Let´s start with the (original) monitor, it is still in good condition, of course some burn in, but the colours of the bricks and paddle are still very, very vibrant and colourful.  ;)  The only issue is that the image is too narrow (I can tell from the burn in that it used to be much wider), but I hope that a pot on the chassis will solve that. Or is there another known issue with these monitors?

All sounds and lights are working.  :)

About the paddle pot, it jitters a lot when turned. And I think that the pot isn´t original because the shaft is too long, the knob is more than 1 cm. above the panel. Could there be an issue with the pot (5K) or with the game board? And who can point me to a good replacement pot in The Netherlands, without having to order for a certain amount?

Worst issue: the gameplay is not OK, the ball runs straight through visible bricks and bounces against non-visible bricks. It does recognize the walls properly though. Where do I start to solve this issue? The  ball also travels with a very high speed, but that could because be of some dipswitch settings. I haven´t checked that yet.


 
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on May 01, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
I think the monitor needs caps replacement here and there (dont know whichone, but i bet there is a bad cap somewhere)
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on August 27, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Thanks to speleo_de for a fast as lightning board repair  ;D  and thanks to flipper.com for a brandnew potentiometer (and thanks to me for installing it and do a bit of monitor tweaking) Breakout now runs 100%

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040866_zps1a6afbf5.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040866_zps1a6afbf5.jpg.html)


(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040868_zps0686ce87.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040868_zps0686ce87.jpg.html)


Yep, this historical machine is ready for Eurocade 2013.  :D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: gyruss on August 27, 2013, 09:33:03 PM
 :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: smarty on August 27, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
Very nice  :)

Well done for getting it all fixed up and working. How is the side art?

I'd like a Breakout or Super BO in my collection one day.
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on August 27, 2013, 10:12:23 PM
That cab is in pretty good nick AFAIK, coming from the famous Belgian warehouse.

Totally brilliant Erik, and a big thanks to Speleo who "in spirit" will now be with us too ;)
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 27, 2013, 10:22:36 PM
Nice !  :spaceace: :spaceace:
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on August 27, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
Very nice  :)

Well done for getting it all fixed up and working. How is the side art?

I'd like a Breakout or Super BO in my collection one day.

Yes, the side art is still in very good shape, 9 out of 10 I would say. The only real bad part is the laminate of the ´kick panel´ which is damaged here and there and missing broken-off parts. But I already have some substitute laminate to apply to it. And then it will be a real looker.  ;D

By the way, welcome to this forum, please introduce yourself here: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?board=3.0

and tell us a bit about yourself and how you experience the hobby of game collecting.  :)

Edit: Oh, you already did. But why is your postcount then 1? Bruno?
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Luigi on August 28, 2013, 09:05:01 AM
Cool  8)


I'm always shocked when I start a game in our room and see the very/far too small pad at the bottom and I wonder 'How the f**k am I supposed to catch the ball with this small thing?' :D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on August 28, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
Edit: Oh, you already did. But why is your postcount then 1? Bruno?

Postings in the "All the rest" section don't count, Bruno explained that when we discussed the 10000 post barrier some time ago ;)
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on August 28, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Cool  8)


I'm always shocked when I start a game in our room and see the very/far too small pad at the bottom and I wonder 'How the f**k am I supposed to catch the ball with this small thing?' :D

Haha LOL, imagine how a game like this would have been like if it were developed today.

First you would have to go through a load of option screens where you can set the background colors, the colors of all individual tiles, wether they have sharp or curved edges, the color of your bat, the size of your bat, the way that the angles work on the bat's edges, gravity, the speed of the ball etc. etc.

Then the game would cheat by letting you hit the ball even if you were "close enough" to the ball because else "it wouldn't be fair".......

....and of course you'd have indefinite continues so you can "complete" the game so quickly that you are done with it within one week and have to go out and buy a new game.

Nahhhh, in those times, gamers were men of steel. The rules were simple clear and hard  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Luigi on August 28, 2013, 10:13:31 AM
Then the game would cheat by letting you hit the ball even if you were "close enough" to the ball because else "it wouldn't be fair".......

Or it would let you 'install' an invisible bar at the bottom, leaving only one small spot (or none at all) where the ball can slip through....God-Mode  ;D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Etienne MacGyver on August 28, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
Cool  8)


I'm always shocked when I start a game in our room and see the very/far too small pad at the bottom and I wonder 'How the f**k am I supposed to catch the ball with this small thing?' :D

Haha LOL, imagine how a game like this would have been like if it were developed today.

First you would have to go through a load of option screens where you can set the background colors, the colors of all individual tiles, wether they have sharp or curved edges, the color of your bat, the size of your bat, the way that the angles work on the bat's edges, gravity, the speed of the ball etc. etc.

Then the game would cheat by letting you hit the ball even if you were "close enough" to the ball because else "it wouldn't be fair".......

....and of course you'd have indefinite continues so you can "complete" the game so quickly that you are done with it within one week and have to go out and buy a new game.

Nahhhh, in those times, gamers were men of steel. The rules were simple clear and hard  ;D ;D ;D

That description reminds me of this  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on September 03, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
...... How is the side art?

Well, check it out yourself >>>

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040887_zpsf9584877.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040887_zpsf9584877.jpg.html)


(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040886_zps2e17d8d3.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040886_zps2e17d8d3.jpg.html)


(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040889_zps7cff2ff8.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040889_zps7cff2ff8.jpg.html)


(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckong65/Breakout/P1040888_zpscd3ab190.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/ckong65/media/Breakout/P1040888_zpscd3ab190.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: johnsarcade on September 03, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
What a great game! I can't believe it works. I just love classics like these. Great artwork too.
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on September 03, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
Yes,

I love the artwork too. A few months ago I had plans to sell it, but that won´t happen anymore!  :)

There are still two little things to do:

1. renew the laminate on the kickpanel
2. give the coin door a layer of fresh paint.

This I will do after the upcoming Retro Game Experience.  :)

Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: Laszo on September 04, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
Can't wait to play it  :D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: level42 on September 04, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
Yup, those games from the Belgian warehouse are mostly in pretty damn nice condition  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fired up Break Out ...
Post by: ckong on September 04, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
Yup, those games from the Belgian warehouse are mostly in pretty damn nice condition  ;D ;D

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