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General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: vernimark on March 22, 2015, 10:27:33 PM

Title: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 22, 2015, 10:27:33 PM
This is the OFF LIMITS cabinet.
a wall game made modifying the breakout PCB

this game has been made by TBM, a small company close to Bologna, then distributed by ZACCARIA

It seems that the original version hadn't the game selector, while the ZACCARIA version had the possibility to switch between 7 games.

the picture here attached come from a TBM cabinet and the manual is a ZACCARIA document.
Title: Re: the real story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 22, 2015, 10:28:29 PM
This is the logo of "TBM" company

Title: Re: the real story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 22, 2015, 10:31:29 PM
during the ENADA PRIMAVERA 2015 (the Italian amusement and gaming exhibition) I discovered that TBM still exists and presents its last SLOT MACHINES: OFF LIMITS!!

with a drung yoda as special guest haha
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 22, 2015, 10:36:51 PM
thanks to Federico Croci (wiz) for the info and the cabinet he has
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on March 23, 2015, 01:26:12 AM
Cool! Has the manual been scanned?
Paul.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Luigi on March 23, 2015, 08:34:10 AM
Nice cab :)
Is it complete inside?

I wonder if the Star Wars artwork has been licensed bitd.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 23, 2015, 09:50:41 AM
- I don't think the manual has been scanned, I'd like to do that

- no license at all obviously :)

- cabinet has no PCB at the moment
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: level42 on March 23, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
Wow there's some blatant illegal use of SW art going on there......not that suprising for 30+ years ago but....today still..... :)
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 23, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
yep. embarassing...
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Q*ris on March 23, 2015, 11:52:42 AM
Star Wars? Where?  ;D
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on March 23, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
Wow! is it yours? It is in perfect shape!!  :spaceace:
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Belike on March 23, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
Quote from: vernimark on March 23, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
Wow! is it yours? It is in perfect shape!!  :spaceace:
You didn't check Paul's 2014 archive! ;)
www.zzzaccaria.com
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: DarthNuno on March 23, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
These Star Wars pictures remind me the unlicensed vinyl I used to listen back in the days...like this one I still have  ;D  :arrow:
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Q*ris on March 23, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: Belike on March 23, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
Quote from: vernimark on March 23, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
Wow! is it yours? It is in perfect shape!!  :spaceace:
You didn't check Paul's 2014 archive! ;)
www.zzzaccaria.com

Yep, I was just bragging  ;)
I only picked it up and stored it at my place a while ago.
Great looking cab!
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on March 24, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Ugh, that rendition of Yoda is vomit inducing.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Stiletto on June 10, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Guys, so this is confirmed Breakout clone, so it does not use a CPU, correct? a PCB photo would be nice, thanks :)
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on June 10, 2015, 11:54:55 PM
There you go...
(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/PV/IMG_4294.jpg)
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/IMG_4294.jpg (http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/IMG_4294.jpg)
Paul.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on June 11, 2015, 03:27:52 PM
I'm looking for one of those boards....
I thought it was a breakout with a daughter board successively applied...
any code on it?
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on June 11, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
It's not here with me, but there was an "upgrade" for the Atari game that has an extra board and a bunch of hacks to do the same thing but with less games IIRC. This one looks all-in-one. It looks all TTL.
Paul.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Stiletto on June 15, 2015, 05:31:09 PM
Quote from: PaulSwan on June 10, 2015, 11:54:55 PM
There you go...
(http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/PV/IMG_4294.jpg)
http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/IMG_4294.jpg (http://www.zzzaccaria.com/photos_www/2014/OffLimits/IMG_4294.jpg)
Paul.


Thanks. Yeah it looks all TTL, maybe a ROM? that's a big chip in the bottom right...
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on September 21, 2015, 10:34:42 AM
Thank you Paul for the pic. I forgot you already posted it.
So it seems to have an additional connector probably for the game selection. I've something similar somewhere...

Anyway as some of you already know Wiz (Fed Croci) found the Zaccaria's document package, I'll scan it soon.

Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on September 21, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
...and hopefully that's a nice juicy schematic package that's with it ;)
Thanks,
Paul.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: Stiletto on October 14, 2015, 11:33:32 PM
Looking forward to it.  :)
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on December 24, 2015, 01:31:09 PM
I have a couple of OFF LIMITS boards keeped from the hands of its inventor :) . Next year I'll proceed with the restoration
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: PaulSwan on December 25, 2015, 03:41:10 AM
Nice :)
Paul.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on December 22, 2016, 06:37:00 PM
More info:

OFF LIMITS boards "Early production" (more or less first hundred) are labeled O.P.M. as shown in the picture.

OPM is the name of a company owned by one of the TBM shareholder (the "M" of TBM) and means "Organizzazione Paolo Morisi" (Paolo Morisi Organization)
after this first hundred "OPM" has been omitted.

ANother OFF LIMIT version exists, named "SUPER OFF LIMITS"

Fausto Tabarroni (the "T" of TBM) gave me a SUPER OFF LIMITS MARQUEE but the board is somewhere in the old warehouse. One of the purposes for 2017 is to write down the story of OFF LIMITS and TBM (ZACCARIA project is continuing but very slowing because of the tons of docs and pics to consider)
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on December 22, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Ah, this first version has the game selector on the pcb. yes, the cabinet owner selected the game.
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on December 22, 2016, 07:35:38 PM
Here you can see the model "3"
it has been modified in order to support the game selection directly by the player.

A connector has been mounted on the multiswitch
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: vernimark on December 22, 2016, 07:37:10 PM
THis is the cab where this model 3 is installed. in the 3rd pic there is the external selector
Title: Re: the true story of OFF LIMITS
Post by: smarty on December 22, 2016, 08:22:50 PM
Good detective work. Makes for an interesting read.

So what do the different game modes translate into?

Thanks.