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General Chat => 'Business' Area : Buy/Sell/Trade => Topic started by: DarthNuno on September 25, 2013, 10:21:36 PM

Title: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: DarthNuno on September 25, 2013, 10:21:36 PM
...i went last week with a colleague to Jeutel/Eurofinatel to check their (new) pinballs, close to my workplace in Luxembourg, and they have a very nice Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe for sale.

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/4sale/F355-1.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/4sale/F355-2.jpg)

(https://www.dragonslairfans.com/4sale/F355-3.jpg)

Price to be discussed with Mr TEL himself, you can contact him here : http://www.jeutel.lu/index.php/en/
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 25, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Ow man........what a dream .....
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 26, 2013, 08:28:54 AM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 26, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?

they are not far away from here, thomas. ;)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 26, 2013, 09:29:30 AM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?

they are not far away from here, thomas. ;)

You will never get that down the stairs though ;)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Belike on September 26, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?
Normally 5-6000 eur, much cheaper than André's SW cockpit for 50.000. ;D
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 26, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?
Normally 5-6000 eur, much cheaper than André's SW cockpit for 50.000. ;D

it is just that i don´t like ferrari from sega that much.
somehow i think it is one of their weakest games allthough the cab is just amazing. if it comes down to sega racing games i prefer daytona, sega rally or scud.
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Belike on September 26, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
+1, gameplay simply sucks, the cab itself looks awesome. :D
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 26, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Seriously, I dont know the seller, is he selling at "retail" prices or does he actually want to sell the game? (It would need to be less than €1000 if he wants to sell.)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 26, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
Seriously, I dont know the seller, is he selling at "retail" prices or does he actually want to sell the game? (It would need to be less than €1000 if he wants to sell.)

really? i would buy it within a second if it was under 1000? such cabs usually are offered for crazy prices in europe. 3000+.
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 28, 2013, 10:01:35 AM
most big racing cabs aren't that expensive because they take up so much room and few people have the room for it.

This one may a bit different though. I think it was only 4 years ago that I played one still in commercial use at Hommerson, Scheveningen. I recently saw one in operation at an indoor play area for kids.....although I truly wondered why they had exactly that game there.

The three screen setup gives a great feel of reality.

Also, F355 is a simulating game and not an arcade game. You can't compare it to Daytona etc. because those are true arcade racing games. It is almost the same game as on the Dreamcast and very much like console games of the era like Gran Turismo on the Playstation. (in fact, you can insert a Dreamcast module in the cabinet if you had F355 at home).
If you loose distance to the leaders in the race F355 doesn't brake the computer cars to bring you back to the front of the race. It's not forgiving.

So the game play doesn't suck, you guys simply can't drive  ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 28, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
Any idea which RANGE the pric e might be?
Normally 5-6000 eur, much cheaper than André's SW cockpit for 50.000. ;D

However cool a three screen F355 might be, you can not compare it to the goddess of sit-down games !!
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 28, 2013, 11:04:45 AM

Also, F355 is a simulating game and not an arcade game. You can't compare it to Daytona etc. because those are true arcade racing games. It is almost the same game as on the Dreamcast and very much like console games of the era like Gran Turismo on the Playstation. (in fact, you can insert a Dreamcast module in the cabinet if you had F355 at home).
If you loose distance to the leaders in the race F355 doesn't brake the computer cars to bring you back to the front of the race. It's not forgiving.


it offers not enough to be a real simulation. it is just a damn hard game on dreamcast and in the arcade if you ask me. :)
i did not like the gameplay that much and i am sure that it will not satisfy me in the arcade either. it is also not a game that people enjoy playing.
impressive cab... no question. :)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Belike on September 28, 2013, 12:46:30 PM


So the game play doesn't suck, you guys simply can't drive  ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D


Hmm. if we talking about this cab and who can drive and who can't, I saw F355 last time on a gokart ring.
I'm a member of the Pata Negra racing team (Pata Negra is the best spanish restaurant in Budapest), we use ultra strong racing gokarts to practice. ;) ;D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-11X9EvYIiIM/Ukaxq4F3F_I/AAAAAAAAHx4/FAgHgsWlSG4/w485-h647-no/WP_001744.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RQ7hvobuti0/UkayJc6sy-I/AAAAAAAAHyA/fZvpKf7s0N4/w974-h647-no/k%25C3%25A9p+036.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wt7e4skUAqQ/UkayKM8Jm7I/AAAAAAAAHyI/dQqngkBazrk/w971-h647-no/k%25C3%25A9p+064.jpg)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: gyruss on September 28, 2013, 01:33:11 PM
It's indeed a wonderful and delicious restaurant!   ;D
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 28, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
Cool!

And now even more curious, why do you think game play sucks? Is it not realistic?

 


So the game play doesn't suck, you guys simply can't drive  ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D


Hmm. if we talking about this cab and who can drive and who can't, I saw F355 last time on a gokart ring.
I'm a member of the Pata Negra racing team (Pata Negra is the best spanish restaurant in Budapest), we use ultra strong racing gokarts to practice. ;) ;D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-11X9EvYIiIM/Ukaxq4F3F_I/AAAAAAAAHx4/FAgHgsWlSG4/w485-h647-no/WP_001744.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RQ7hvobuti0/UkayJc6sy-I/AAAAAAAAHyA/fZvpKf7s0N4/w974-h647-no/k%25C3%25A9p+036.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wt7e4skUAqQ/UkayKM8Jm7I/AAAAAAAAHyI/dQqngkBazrk/w971-h647-no/k%25C3%25A9p+064.jpg)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 28, 2013, 07:50:16 PM
LOL, Béla, we want you in a Mario suit !
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 28, 2013, 10:55:29 PM
Cool!

And now even more curious, why do you think game play sucks? Is it not realistic?


well... i just don´t think it is realistic. i also used to own a Kart for 5 years and i think i know how to drive this thing. i also owned a pretty nice fast german car from stuttgart till last year. ;)
it is a hard racer, more frustating than entertaining. i think an arcade game should entertain you. imagine afterburner as a realistic game. would not be that much fun to crash on the runway after a few seconds. ;)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Belike on September 29, 2013, 09:05:50 AM
I wouldn't say it is not realistic, but you don't have the "arcade feeling" in this game, it is rather a modern driving simulator. :P :-*
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 29, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
well... i just don´t think it is realistic.

VS.

I wouldn't say it is not realistic, but you don't have the "arcade feeling" in this game, it is rather a modern driving simulator. :P :-*

Gents, I am interested in Simulators that are REALISTIC not arcade like. My question to you road warriors is: IS THIS A GOOD SIMULATION? OR IS THE SIMULATION BAD (like in not realistic)?

I dont mind if its boring and/or hard as hell, I just want the real deal. Is this one of the real deals?
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 29, 2013, 01:15:21 PM
well... i just don´t think it is realistic.

VS.

I wouldn't say it is not realistic, but you don't have the "arcade feeling" in this game, it is rather a modern driving simulator. :P :-*

Gents, I am interested in Simulators that are REALISTIC not arcade like. My question to you road warriors is: IS THIS A GOOD SIMULATION? OR IS THE SIMULATION BAD (like in not realistic)?

I dont mind if its boring and/or hard as hell, I just want the real deal. Is this one of the real deals?

hard to day... i drove a porsche 911 for 2 years. i also did some kart driving in the past with my own kart and with karts from friends. since the feedback is completely missing i would not call it a realistic driving experience. that´s why i said that for me it only is a hard racing game. i have no experience with ferraris... i can not really comment on that.
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 29, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
OK, I have never driven a real F355 but I can imagine it is not the most easy car to drive and barely something that can be compared to a kart... Or a Porsche !!!

If you flatten the gas pedal on start you will very easy get into an uncontrollable spin, something that would happen with a real Ferrari too as far as I've heard.

IMHO it is a simulator and knowing you a little bit! you are going to like it.
It is far, far away from ARCADE racers like Daytona, which are fun arcade games but are very unrealistic in most aspects.

If you loose distance to the race leaders, F355 is not going to "bring you back". you're just screwed I. That position, and that is exactly what would happen in the real world right ?

Don't kill me if I turn out to be wrong though :)

Here's a nice video:

http://youtu.be/u9Jo3IbW7fE
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 29, 2013, 01:25:02 PM
This reminds me a bit about Hard Drivin' vs. Pole Position.

Pole Position is a fun arcade racer, easy to learn, very unrealistic, loft of fun for one or two games.
Hard Drivin' is HARD to play, pretty damn realistic for it's age and a lot of fun to own at home because it will stay fun for a much longer time while you learn to master the car.

I would choose HD over PP any time to buy as a home game.
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Love on September 29, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
OK, I have never driven a real F355 but I can imagine it is not the most easy car to drive and barely something that can be compared to a kart... Or a Porsche !!!

If you flatten the gas pedal on start you will very easy get into an uncontrollable spin, something that would happen with a real Ferrari too as far as I've heard.

IMHO it is a simulator and knowing you a little bit! you are going to like it.
It is far, far away from ARCADE racers like Daytona, which are fun arcade games but are very unrealistic in most aspects.

If you loose distance to the race leaders, F355 is not going to "bring you back". you're just screwed I. That position, and that is exactly what would happen in the real world right ?

Don't kill me if I turn out to be wrong though :)

Here's a nice video:

http://youtu.be/u9Jo3IbW7fE


Vidoe got me sold on it. Looks like what you Need before actually buying a real Ferrari.

Soooo, who is Mr Tel? Is he selling at retail Prices like 3000+, or is he interested in selling it probably?

 
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: Tyrem on September 29, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
OK, I have never driven a real F355 but I can imagine it is not the most easy car to drive and barely something that can be compared to a kart... Or a Porsche !!!

If you flatten the gas pedal on start you will very easy get into an uncontrollable spin, something that would happen with a real Ferrari too as far as I've heard.

IMHO it is a simulator and knowing you a little bit! you are going to like it.
It is far, far away from ARCADE racers like Daytona, which are fun arcade games but are very unrealistic in most aspects.

If you loose distance to the race leaders, F355 is not going to "bring you back". you're just screwed I. That position, and that is exactly what would happen in the real world right ?

Don't kill me if I turn out to be wrong though :)

Here's a nice video:

http://youtu.be/u9Jo3IbW7fE


Vidoe got me sold on it. Looks like what you Need before actually buying a real Ferrari.

Soooo, who is Mr Tel? Is he selling at retail Prices like 3000+, or is he interested in selling it probably?

 

really good driving skills in the vid. this guy did play the game for quite a while. :)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: DarthNuno on September 29, 2013, 06:27:50 PM
Soooo, who is Mr Tel? Is he selling at retail Prices like 3000+, or is he interested in selling it probably?

Mr Tel was THE arcade man in France.
I would compare him to Mr Zaccaria or Siddam,  ... more, it's THE guy who imported THE arcade in France, and THE bootleg specialist! (all cabinets, hardware PCB bootleg and even pinballs under the name JEUTEL...it's him!)  ;D
No idea about the price.. just call him for a fast answer. I know a little bit the guy, it's still possible to negotiate with him  ;)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: cebulba on September 29, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
I played this game this summer in Switzerland in a Bowling Alley / Amusement Center nearby Bern. Cost 5 EUROs for one credit - and that one didn't last long.
There's one seller from Austria on Ebay all the time trying to sell it - seems he made a buy out on an family resort.

For you - it might be easier to get one from Poland. I assume this guy is selling them, too (nearby the German Border).
www.jokergry.pl (http://www.jokergry.pl) - I talked to him last year (when I was situated in Berlin for work) - nice guy - at least via e-mail :)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VIRTUA-STRIKER-4-VER-2006-NAOMI-/300974731797?pt=Automaten&hash=item46137df215 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/VIRTUA-STRIKER-4-VER-2006-NAOMI-/300974731797?pt=Automaten&hash=item46137df215)
Title: Re: 4sale : Ferrari F355 Challenge Deluxe 3 screens
Post by: level42 on September 29, 2013, 08:29:38 PM
I played this game this summer in Switzerland in a Bowling Alley / Amusement Center nearby Bern. Cost 5 EUROs for one credit
Switzerland is an insanely expensive country. That price is nuts. Then again, buying a simple sandwich there is also insanely expensive. I try to avoid it as much as possible.