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General Chat => 'Business' Area : Buy/Sell/Trade => Topic started by: Tyrem on July 27, 2012, 04:36:03 PM

Title: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 27, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
Hello everybody!

First I´d like to introduce myself. My name is Stefan, 41 years old.... male! ;)
I run a videogamestore in my hometown Trier/Germany for 13 years now and I am a big fan of this board although I kept silent for most of the months and years here.

I was hoping to find a Galaga 88 Jamma-Board... but as I found out lately those little babies are hard to get.
That´s why I came here today. Maybe someone here has an idea how to get one.

I´d be very thankful for any help i can get.

Greetings from Trier
Stefan
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 27, 2012, 04:44:13 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140809941343&item=140809941343#ht_600wt_1396

price is not THAT off  :pac:
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 27, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140809941343&item=140809941343#ht_600wt_1396

price is not THAT off  :pac:

yeah, true. saw that one last night, too. was hoping to get one in europe though... but if the price is okay I´d also buy it from him. :)
cheers mate!
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 27, 2012, 05:02:51 PM
well i dont think its okay ;)

but its not tooo much too much either

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=239754&highlight=galaga+88+pcb
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 27, 2012, 05:12:07 PM
well i dont think its okay ;)

but its not tooo much too much either

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=239754&highlight=galaga+88+pcb

I just bought it for 229 euro, shipping to germany included. i guess that is a fair deal. :)
i am a happy bunny now! thank you again. great board, great people. can´t wait to play that game again.
back in the golden times we had one machine in my fav pub. completet it there several times. :)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Muerto on July 27, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
Great you got the game, any chance you will show a photo or 2 of your setup? - and welcome here BTW!

Cheers
Michael Trier (yep, thats my name  8) )
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 12:04:23 AM
Great you got the game, any chance you will show a photo or 2 of your setup? - and welcome here BTW!

Cheers
Michael Trier (yep, thats my name  8) )

of course I will, Michael. I have to put it in my sitdown cab. it used to run a 60in1 till now... and that leads me to aproblem I did not think about so far... the 60in1 has vga and audio-out. the galaga 88 does not have those features. i guess i will take the sound from the jamma harness... but what about the vga output? a total newbie-question for sure... but is there an easy solution to my problem? :)

and by the way... what a coinsidence with your last name. :)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 28, 2012, 03:58:18 AM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: TimePilot on July 28, 2012, 08:19:04 AM
Hello Tyrem, welcome on DLF! :pac:

I have restore my original cab, the thread on dlf you can find here:
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3335.0 (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3335.0)

and, i have a second original pcb, but there its not working atm. i have buy it for 160 EUR from the infamous austrian seller from vienna in working order, but arrived by me shows that nothing worked! >:( >:( >:(
if you are interested you can have it "as is" for 99 EUR +sh, otherwise i have a nice guy in germany they will repair it, if possible. so then it is for spare.
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: TimePilot on July 28, 2012, 08:38:42 AM
Do you have seen this?
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221071512057&nma=true&rt=nc&si=dTmigMVv2imAEEkESGpkm44eV0o%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221071512057&nma=true&rt=nc&si=dTmigMVv2imAEEkESGpkm44eV0o%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 08:57:31 AM
I found my board yesterday. Not as cheap as the 199-one... but just about 200 with shipping from the states included. :)

big thanks to everybody who wants to help me. my problem now ist how to connect ist to vga. anybody with a very simple solution for an absolute beginner? :)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 09:01:28 AM
Hello Tyrem, welcome on DLF! :pac:

I have restore my original cab, the thread on dlf you can find here:
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3335.0 (https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3335.0)


heyho... i can assure you... I SAW YOUR POST. :D
i think it was one of the reasons to get me a galaga 88 pcb. somehow this is my game. it also was one of my first games for the pc engine. i still own it.

Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 09:04:06 AM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: ckong on July 28, 2012, 10:50:42 AM
....  my problem now ist how to connect ist to vga. anybody with a very simple solution for an absolute beginner? :)

first, welcome here.

second, there is a simle answer, you can´t  :o

Galaga´88 is a 15K lowres game, it doesn´t output VGA signals.

The only solution to use it on a VGA monitor is to hook up additional devices, like a cga2vga scaler and a sync splitter. And of course a SLG3000 for the scanlines. You can check out Bencao74´s website for more info about that.

But please don´t use thta equioment, you don´t really want to use a VGA monitor. The game is intended to use with a 15K monitor, so why not hook up one of those?

But to be honest, I am a bit amazed that you thought that you could hook up a Galaga ´88 PCB directly to a VGA monitor! Obviously you didn´t do a lot of research on forehand.

By the way, the price of a Galaga ´88 board has increased extremely over the last few years, I sold mine little than two year ago for € 120!!! And still made a little profit!!!  ::) I know now that I should have kept it.
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 28, 2012, 11:13:01 AM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 11:26:01 AM
....  my problem now ist how to connect ist to vga. anybody with a very simple solution for an absolute beginner? :)

first, welcome here.

second, there is a simle answer, you can´t  :o

Galaga´88 is a 15K lowres game, it doesn´t output VGA signals.

The only solution to use it on a VGA monitor is to hook up additional devices, like a cga2vga scaler and a sync splitter. And of course a SLG3000 for the scanlines. You can check out Bencao74´s website for more info about that.

But please don´t use thta equioment, you don´t really want to use a VGA monitor. The game is intended to use with a 15K monitor, so why not hook up one of those?

But to be honest, I am a bit amazed that you thought that you could hook up a Galaga ´88 PCB directly to a VGA monitor! Obviously you didn´t do a lot of research on forehand.


i did no research at all when i bought the pcb but of course I knew that the galaga 88 has no vga-out. i just did not think about it when i found it on ebay and bought it. actually I did send the guy a price I was willing to pay.... and he accepted one minute later. so... there was my galaga 88 pcb. :D

the reason for me to connect it to vga is simple: i have no other choice at the moment because i have a coctail cab (not a sitdown as mentioned before). i bought this cab with a 60in1 two years ago because I liked its design. it did fit in our appartment and it was a compromise to my wife. she liked it too cause it was a piece of furniture for us. unfortunately it came with a vga-monitor.

 i could of course put a real 15k monitor in it... but that´s something I might to in the future. at the moment I don´t have the time for that. I just want to play that game again with a beer next to me in my livingroom. :)

so I guess I will go with this little box and the scanline-generator. that will do for me. if i ever have the chance to get my hands on dedicated cabs for my own real arcade i can assure you that I will only go for the real thing. ;)

Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: level42 on July 28, 2012, 12:27:50 PM
IMHO replacing the monitor is less work than hooking up all the converters..
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 12:36:46 PM
IMHO replacing the monitor is less work than hooking up all the converters..

i doubt that. :) have to find one that fits first.
but don´t worry guys... i think i might buy the real cab, too.
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: ckong on July 28, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Ok, it is your choice. Happy gaming. :)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
Ok, it is your choice. Happy gaming. :)

it is also the choice of my wife.
if it was up to me our appartmend would be packed with dedicated cabs. no bed, no kitchen. just games and pizza service. ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 28, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Ok, it is your choice. Happy gaming. :)

it is also the choice of my wife.
if it was up to me our appartmend would be packed with dedicated cabs. no bed, no kitchen. just games and pizza service. ;)

Thats the spirit! :pac:
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: level42 on July 28, 2012, 04:17:45 PM
IMHO replacing the monitor is less work than hooking up all the converters..

i doubt that. :) have to find one that fits first.

Not trying to push. This one has been on Marktplaats for very long now:

http://verzamelen.marktplaats.nl/automaten-overige/580865664-hantarex-mtc9000-14-inch-monitor-met-nieuwe-beeldbuis.html?return=eJwtjEEKgzAQRe8i6FKNltJGgtgu2msEk2IwJkNmpNLSu3ekXf33%2Fh9GSyHfTtYdSnFsZIZWp3HqJiKQVTVHsKFcdJoJvNaEZfDV76SECfrNK1EYVBTzdhB5ezGOgdMT58sBIz4M%2FlfY25ph4WEI62KTG1nnJ%2BtdB9LJbuwR9zdNAbCquoCINEZjVXM%2BHW7XrPt8AcNxOXA%3D&df=1&fta=eNotzUGOgzAMBdC7eME6pKjAt1h10VnNFVBK0jZqIBEJLWrVu09As7P97WeFGp%2BIBrTMrn8qF4lzewStrisLHbvkUbK2YJfwtoHjVcc8CQmCx4BpGc1sB3688KOmpGazso8Wsghh6UQRfEyD16aTbVOdT5tegYK6GWKbnYgDyOr9bVmDpGyvlWnEKsWlHY613oO8k3xQOvbOTLd0325FDlrQqNZ%2B47Kgd0%2BC1Iv49798EisIfL7fPwSiSfk%3D&fta_ind=1&fs=1


14" with new tube. It's very close to the German border ;) Infact it is only 189 km. from Trier :)

Just so you have your choices ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: TimePilot on July 28, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
you forget to tell him the "german" costs like Import customs clearance, import taxes, customs duty, port fees...  :wink:
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 28, 2012, 04:30:54 PM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
you forget to tell him the "german" costs like Import customs clearance, EUST (import taxes), Zoll (customs duty), Kaigebühren (port fees)...  :wink:

No, I didnt. They are included in the $150-200 shipping costs. Did you see the answers from Dachser on the container thread I posted?
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: TimePilot on July 28, 2012, 04:32:25 PM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
you forget to tell him the "german" costs like Import customs clearance, EUST (import taxes), Zoll (customs duty), Kaigebühren (port fees)...  :wink:

No, I didnt. They are included in the $150-200 shipping costs. Did you see the answers from Dachser on the container thread I posted?
good luck with you, if you think this is all then.. ::)
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Love on July 28, 2012, 04:44:00 PM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
you forget to tell him the "german" costs like Import customs clearance, EUST (import taxes), Zoll (customs duty), Kaigebühren (port fees)...  :wink:

No, I didnt. They are included in the $150-200 shipping costs. Did you see the answers from Dachser on the container thread I posted?
good luck with you, if you think this is all then.. ::)

Alright, let me explain.

The Dachser quote includes Import customs clearance, Kaigebühren (port fees) and stuff like that. Here are the numbers.

Dachser shipping quote is something like $100 per cab (depending on how many we actually can fit in the container and some other variables)
EUST (import taxes): 19% of $150 (cab) + $100 (shipping) = $50
Zoll (customs duty) shouldnt apply, but you never know, and in your case it was 9% or something = would be $25 per cab in our case

Makes $175 per cab in a 40' container.

I send Dachser your words (literally) and they answered that everything is included in the quote, except for EUST and Zoll.

So please stop telling its going to be significantly more or come up with harder facts than the ones I got from the shipping company and everyone else I did talk to regarding this.

:)

Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 05:34:18 PM
don´t worry about the shipping. that´s the smallest problem. ;)
i guess it would still be an amazing prize compared to what it would cost me over here.
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tyrem on July 28, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
IMHO replacing the monitor is less work than hooking up all the converters..

i doubt that. :) have to find one that fits first.

Not trying to push. This one has been on Marktplaats for very long now:

http://verzamelen.marktplaats.nl/automaten-overige/580865664-hantarex-mtc9000-14-inch-monitor-met-nieuwe-beeldbuis.html?return=eJwtjEEKgzAQRe8i6FKNltJGgtgu2msEk2IwJkNmpNLSu3ekXf33%2Fh9GSyHfTtYdSnFsZIZWp3HqJiKQVTVHsKFcdJoJvNaEZfDV76SECfrNK1EYVBTzdhB5ezGOgdMT58sBIz4M%2FlfY25ph4WEI62KTG1nnJ%2BtdB9LJbuwR9zdNAbCquoCINEZjVXM%2BHW7XrPt8AcNxOXA%3D&df=1&fta=eNotzUGOgzAMBdC7eME6pKjAt1h10VnNFVBK0jZqIBEJLWrVu09As7P97WeFGp%2BIBrTMrn8qF4lzewStrisLHbvkUbK2YJfwtoHjVcc8CQmCx4BpGc1sB3688KOmpGazso8Wsghh6UQRfEyD16aTbVOdT5tegYK6GWKbnYgDyOr9bVmDpGyvlWnEKsWlHY613oO8k3xQOvbOTLd0325FDlrQqNZ%2B47Kgd0%2BC1Iv49798EisIfL7fPwSiSfk%3D&fta_ind=1&fs=1


14" with new tube. It's very close to the German border ;) Infact it is only 189 km. from Trier :)

Just so you have your choices ;)

ok... this looks cool ideed. though 14" is quite tiny...
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: TimePilot on July 28, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
I have a Galaga 88 cab offered to me in the US if anyone is interested  :pac: :pac:

uhhhhh.... how much would that be?
any chance to get an original moon patrol, donkey kong, track & field? :)

those are the machines i would kill for. ;)

I just get about 50 games together for a container from the US to EU later this year. So if you want to join in here is the thread:

https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3726.0

The Galaga 88 that was offered to me would be about $450 shipped to the warehouse in the US. Add another $150-200 for shipping to Bremerhaven, Germany and €50 fee for me and that should be about what it would cost you. The other games you mentioned are possible to get there too.
you forget to tell him the "german" costs like Import customs clearance, EUST (import taxes), Zoll (customs duty), Kaigebühren (port fees)...  :wink:

No, I didnt. They are included in the $150-200 shipping costs. Did you see the answers from Dachser on the container thread I posted?
good luck with you, if you think this is all then.. ::)

Alright, let me explain.

The Dachser quote includes Import customs clearance, Kaigebühren (port fees) and stuff like that. Here are the numbers.

Dachser shipping quote is something like $100 per cab (depending on how many we actually can fit in the container and some other variables)
EUST (import taxes): 19% of $150 (cab) + $100 (shipping) = $50
Zoll (customs duty) shouldnt apply, but you never know, and in your case it was 9% or something = would be $25 per cab in our case

Makes $175 per cab in a 40' container.

I send Dachser your words (literally) and they answered that everything is included in the quote, except for EUST and Zoll.

So please stop telling its going to be significantly more or come up with harder facts than the ones I got from the shipping company and everyone else I did talk to regarding this.

:)



ok, now my last statement to this! :P
i have giving you the "harder facts" you´ve seen in my original dachser invoice, my friend! and i know the german customs and what they need or what they are. i had x-times to do with these people. believe me, your dachser guys can never saying exactly what the german customs will do!!!
and, you will need an original invoice for every cab incl. proof of payment (creditcard, paypal), for sure! and the customs have a list for every item you import. and after my informations, they calculate the rate with this list, whether you write the are defective or not.

but believe me, i truly hope for us that a lower quote came true and the costs are fair. good luck!!!  :)


and back to topic! :arrow:
Title: Re: WTB: Galaga 88 PCB
Post by: Tup on July 28, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
This guy here has a complete Galaga '88 cab for sale.
http://www.gameroom.be/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8519
Nice guy and reliable. Have bought a cab from him before (actually my first cab ever).
Title: My Galaga 88 arrived today
Post by: Tyrem on August 08, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Yeah, the pcb just arrived. Fast shipping. I will try it out tonight in my cab and post a pic if it works. :D

Thanks again for the help to everybody here!